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KarmaComa
01-22-2014, 11:43 PM
There were models tweeting about it but it looks like it has calmed down now. Trust no one thought right? Lol
SweetJulia
01-29-2014, 12:41 AM
Naked is inconsistent. It's also hard to build up regulars - takes more time than other sites imo. That said, a few hundred dollars a month on the site can be done, it just takes patience.
Crap.....I actually just signed up cuz of the daily pay feature. If you don't mind, can anyone give me an idea of what to expect hourly?
SweetJulia
02-11-2014, 12:07 PM
I got my CMB card activated finally-there were some glitches and I guess I'll report back how I do. They give away prizes to the highest earners every 24 hour period, I guess that should be motivation for. My plan is to go on Thursday and go as long as my body and mind can take.
laurielegs
02-13-2014, 12:47 PM
2014-02-13 09:15:06 0.33 Fraud by user: xxxxxxxxx with the model:xxxxxxxxxxx - spymode
Is this how chargebacks look now? Are they saying that the user committed fraud for one third of a minute? or that I did. wtf!
Waiting to hear back from their support but I'm confused here. Anyone else see this on their stats? Thanks.
h0ttie
02-13-2014, 12:58 PM
2014-02-13 09:15:06 0.33 Fraud by user: xxxxxxxxx with the model:xxxxxxxxxxx - spymode
Is this how chargebacks look now? Are they saying that the user committed fraud for one third of a minute? or that I did. wtf!
Waiting to hear back from their support but I'm confused here. Anyone else see this on their stats? Thanks.
ya, thats how the chargebacks look now, its should disappear in a few days. one cb took 2 days to disappear and the other took 4 days.
h0ttie
02-13-2014, 01:03 PM
Crap.....I actually just signed up cuz of the daily pay feature. If you don't mind, can anyone give me an idea of what to expect hourly?
dont expect much lol...the only reason i still log in is because when i get pvts there it adds up fast but i have had more than a few $0 dollar days and lots of days under $10 lol, tho it might be different if you do goal shows, i only do pvts
laurielegs
02-13-2014, 01:06 PM
dont expect much lol...the only reason i still log in is because when i get pvts there it adds up fast but i have had more than a few $0 dollar days and lots of days under $10 lol, tho it might be different if you do goal shows, i only do pvts
Same here! I use it mainly as a secondary site.
Honestly I don't see how anyone makes a goal show work there. Lots of beggars with no money it seems.
CourtneyRaine
02-13-2014, 01:46 PM
I agree, don't expect much. I still do flashes for tips but no longer offer goal shows, they just have not worked for me for a very long time. For me it is ALWAYS just 1 guy tipping at a time anyway, I'd rather that guy take me private than do a free show for 30+ guys, and I tell my tippers so. Now they either take me private or find me elsewhere. Even my high tippers now are getting annoyed when they drop a ton and freeloaders are making demands, so in a way it is easier to convert privates. When custies are bitching about the freeloaders you know something isn't right.
Naked is a weird site. It's my time of the month so I haven't been on for a few days, but as an example- the last time I logged in I made $30 in my first half hour because one of my regs scooped me into a longish private. Then I spent the next 3 hours in free chat making $0. Finally I got a second show and made a nice chunk from that, and then promptly logged out because I was too annoyed at lurkers to stick around.
SweetJulia
02-14-2014, 08:55 AM
Thank you ladies,sorry it seems so slow.At this rate, I'll stick to SM until the pay period cut off tomorrow night and try naked Sunday with an extremely modest goal of jack shit. Which I'm pretty sure I'll meet lol. Not motivated at all, but I swore to myself I'd at least go on before the new model tag expired, which is something I've failed to do on every other site. Please PM me if you find yourself doing well on that site and don't want to post publicly. Thanks again :)
CourtneyRaine
02-14-2014, 09:36 AM
with an extremely modest goal of jack shit.
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/mike+tyson+s+laughing.+mike+tyson+s+laughing_1a64d f_4240389.gif
Ohmygoodness #ImDead
In all reality, though, I think that's the perfect goal to have for naked :P I used to freaking love this site, man. Back in September 2012 when I started on there, it was still relatively easy to get privates, get free chat tips, and make money. I used to get girls PMing me on here asking about naked and I would rave how it's an amazing site and tell them they should try it. I started camming through a SM studio and was only making 20% of $3.99/min, so the switch to making $2.495/min on naked, and now $2.995 my cut was like heaven. Except now I can't get shows for shit. I'm lucky if I make $5/hour on naked. Actually that's not true; on slow nights I will average $0, with MANY $0 hours. On busy nights I'll average $14/hour. I work many 12-15 hour shifts, because quite simply, I can't afford not to. This site has me thinking I'm a shitty ass cam girl, but then I realize that I am doing AWESOME on my other site, so I tell myself it's not me, it's them.
I guess it's all perspective. I will tell you this, though: naked is NOT all that. I had to call their tech support the weekend before last, because of that guy who's going around trying to sell accounts with credits via Skype. Their tech support guy was dumb as hell, didn't even ask me for the member's name or my model name before telling me he'd "look into it." Homie sounded high as a goddamn kite. Not for nothing, but with this bullshit chargeback policy I am NOT trying to risk anything. Support used to be naked's #1 selling feature and now their support team is just annoying as fuck. When I got my new laptop last month and was text chatting with their support trying to fix my audio the guy fucking IGNORED me after the first few minutes. Just up and disappeared. Thanks a lot? That was helpful? Oh, and their 50% ain't shit, 50% of $0 is still $0. Should I direct new custies there, or to my other site where I am making well over 65%, and 65% is the minimum you'll make but itgoes as high as 90%? Let me think about that one...
(Sorry for the rant, I just really fucking hate camming right now, or at least I think I do, but then I realize that I just hate naked.com and not camming in general, because I still adore my other site.)
DigiLuv
02-14-2014, 03:40 PM
The last 2 days I went on there was on 3 hours and made $15. I had some guy come in asking me to go look at another girl on the site I told him I don't give a fuck about what other girls do in they're room. After that another guy came in saying show us something so guys can start tipping I told him I don't entertain for free. I used to dance around a lot but they still didnt tip or go private just sit, stare and be the freeloaders they are. They used to take me private with no problem and tip. I used to average 1,000 or better a week now it's below minimum wage. I was going to wait until I got my new laptop and switch sites and split cam but Im going to leave now its not worth it wasting hours for nothing. I might go on as a back up here and there but I'm going to make some where else my main site . I'm sick of Naked.
JaneBurgess
02-15-2014, 11:05 PM
I used to like Naked but it's going downhill. Any site that allows you to fuck yourself in free chat is going to attract freeloaders. These sites aren't very smart in my opinion. They would make a shit load more money if they moved full nudity to private instead of making peanuts on free chat shows.
tropo
02-16-2014, 07:17 AM
^I'm sorry, Paola. The same thing happened to me earlier this month regarding getting hit with a bunch of CBs all on one day. In my case three of them came from the same guy, and all of them were from tips I had made on December 26th, but the adjustments didn't actually show up until January 4th. That's what makes it seem a little off to me. I dunno, for 3 guys on the same day to have fraudulent charges that weren't caught until a week and a half later doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence in me.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to keep track of ALL of your chargebacks- the date the transaction occurred, the date the CB showed up in your account, the member name (just in case they aren't really banned), and I've also been keeping track of when I cash out so I know the charge is only deducted from my payout once. I did have one issue of them mistakenly hitting me with the same chargeback a month apart. I called and explained it and they refunded me for the second (double) CB without a problem, but since then I don't trust them to keep records so I keep my own. Sad.
Oh, and the placement is rigged. I feel like all sites rig placement to a certain extent so I'm not that distraught over it. At least with naked there is only one page of models. Unless you're in the top two rows that guys see before they have to scroll down, I think everyone else is on a more or less even playing field.
I feel your pain. I was just charged back $139.20 on another site on February 14 for money a guy spent in my room on January 15... wtf. The site pays out twice monthly, so they timed it nicely to coincide with this month's 15th of the month payout. That's pretty mean to subtract from a model's account a month later without explanation. After complaining about it the owner/manager said that they have to use an easy going card processor to increase site traffic... and everyone wins. How pathetic is that - the model takes the hit in order to increase site traffic. The only saving grace is that they pay 50%, but it's hard to work somewhere when you're always wondering if you're going to get paid for shows... and then being treated like an expendable commodity if you complain.
Anyway, that's why I'm on this forum looking for alternative places to work so I can tell them where to go (after a whole year of hard work) after I've "stolen" my regular customers from this site. I'll have my account deleted the day after payout so they can't play this game again.
Now that I hear about the chargeback shenanigans of Naked.com I'll keep looking. I've done a couple of days on Streamate, and it's looking promising. I split to 4 sites at once at the moment as I don't like to rely on just one site. For years I worked on just one site and did well (been going over 8 years), but the traffic dropped significantly back in 2012 and models started charging less per minute - I had to start split-camming out of necessity.
Thanks to all for all the great info here. This site is a life saver.
Via Flaminia
02-17-2014, 01:29 PM
So far, each cb I've had was investigated quickly and resolved before the pay period ended. I will say the number of cb's has increased on my account. My biggest one so far was $10, and it was taken care of before payout. I knew the little punk would try just by the way he was acting.
Naked traffic seems more broke lately. College guys on a budget who take a long time to make a decision about going private. Big spenders are there, but as the others say, it takes many hours to connect with them. I've been on the site 16 mos, and honestly I would not start from scratch today knowing what I know. Mind you, this can change and get better, maybe? I really don't know. Hope that helps anyone debating a sign-up.
CourtneyRaine
02-17-2014, 01:51 PM
^Yes, it is Definitely harder to make money than it was a year and a half ago! I also had some great regs who have disappeared from the site, but have not been replaced by new regular spenders. Combine that with more models camming at any given time and there really isn't enough money to go around. Unless you already have a large following and continue to drive your own traffic. But, if that's the case, why drive your traffic to naked? Why not to MGF, where you get a higher %? Or MFC, where you get the same % as naked but don't have to worry about CBs and the earning potential is, like, infinitely higher?
Last night after two hours on naked I made $0. I had one asshole tell me he'd take me private after I "slip a toy in me" in free chat and when I told him no, I don't use toys in free chat, he got pissy and told me I make "too much money" for him to pay me. Really? Since when is not being able to make a living wage "too much money"? These guys are fucking delusional, the quality of traffic has just gotten worse and worse in the time I've cammed there. Now that I have a computer that can handle the encoder I am going back to SM. Signing up as we speak.
tropo
02-17-2014, 03:24 PM
Is Naked a free show site like MFC or Chaturbate where most models make money doing public shows for tips and have private as an extra option, or is it a site where modes make all their money in privates?
laurielegs
02-17-2014, 04:51 PM
Is Naked a free show site like MFC or Chaturbate where most models make money doing public shows for tips and have private as an extra option, or is it a site where modes make all their money in privates?
A lot of hosts fuck themselves in free chat and seem to be doing it for a dollar here and there.
I find myself giving it less and less priority lately. It's just getting to be not worth the time to even waste my bandwidth running the site for sometimes hours with no money.
CourtneyRaine
02-18-2014, 01:04 PM
I would say naked is a truly hybrid site, it's an equal blend of privates and free chat tipping. I no longer do masturbation shows in free chat at goal, but I do flash for tips (including pussy flashes). I personally make more from privates and spies than free chat tips, BUT, free chat tips make up around 40% of what I make every pay period lately. I don't think you can get away with only doing privates without accepting free chat tips (if you want to make anything "decent", which in itself is a joke on this site), but you don't have to do public cum shows either.
tropo
02-18-2014, 01:23 PM
I would say naked is a truly hybrid site, it's an equal blend of privates and free chat tipping. I no longer do masturbation shows in free chat at goal, but I do flash for tips (including pussy flashes). I personally make more from privates and spies than free chat tips, BUT, free chat tips make up around 40% of what I make every pay period lately. I don't think you can get away with only doing privates without accepting free chat tips (if you want to make anything "decent", which in itself is a joke on this site), but you don't have to do public cum shows either.
Thanks for the details. That sounds about what I do on Chaturbate - flashes, nothing more... and I usually make more on privates and spies although occasionally I have a good tip night. I may give Naked a try as an additional site. I've given up the idea of one site being the holy grail. Sure, you lose a little bit on each individual site by not focusing your attention, but the combination of many sites makes up for slow periods on each. I keep Chaturbate in the background and only focus if someone tips.
I've only just started working on SM, but I just don't feel right about giving away 70% of my income. I've never worked for less than 50% and it just feels wrong.
tropo
02-18-2014, 01:25 PM
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CourtneyRaine
02-20-2014, 01:47 PM
@SweetJulia, how did your trial on naked go?
Has anyone else been getting annoyed as fuck over naked tech support lately, or is it just me? Last night I tried to log on but I kept getting a "Connection failed" message. I decided to text chat with live support to see what was going on. Mind you, my laptop is brand new (only a month old) and I just streamed on naked 3 nights prior without any issue so I know for a fact the problem is not on my end. The guy was completely unhelpful, kept trying to convince me to remote access my computer (NO, I don't trust those people) and download something that I have never even heard of. I told him that nothing on my computer has changed since my last broadcast, and asked if it's possible it's an issue on naked's end? He told me he has 380 girls online so no. Umm, here are never 380 girls online, but okay. I said you know what, maybe it's best if I just don't cam on naked.com tonight, thanks anyway!
So I took my ass over to cam4, broadcasted there with no problem, made money there with no problem, and basically confirmed that naked support doesn't know shit. Now get this, two hours later I needed to work on my writing job which I couldn't do on cam4 because it required too much of my attention, so I figured I'd try to log on to naked since I basically ignore my room until they talk anyway, and they never talk, so I'd be able to focus on my writing. Just two hours later I was able to log in without issue. I got tipped several times, did a private show- no problem. And the tech support guy wanted me to download some suspicious software for what? Clearly nothing in my computer changed in two hours. This whole thing reminded me of SM and how unhelpful their support people are.
And speaking of SM, I cannot WAIT until they approve my documents so I can get out of this hell hole called naked.com.
I guess the only positive thing about the site is, I got a chargeback a couple of days ago but they reversed it today?
SweetJulia
02-20-2014, 06:44 PM
@CourtneyRaine-girl, it didn't. Their stupid software kept freezing my computer and when I went on another computer to ask their live support about it, the guy said that doesn't happen. I must be mistaken. Oh, and that my profile is nice lol. I've noticed that no one ever posts in Camming Rocks about naked. Hot girls that make money elsewhere don't have anything nice to say about it. So, I'm gonna stick to SM. While I dislike getting 35%, it's 35% of something and I spend a lot of time in shows. Naked pays 50%, but 50% of nothing is still nothing. I might hop on there if things change, but I won't hold my breath.
Via Flaminia
02-20-2014, 08:23 PM
Has anyone else been getting annoyed as fuck over naked tech support lately, or is it just me?
Definitely not just you. The last two times I emailed them I did not get a response back. I am going to call them tomorrow about the attached screenshot. As you can see, this user has a yellow dollar sign by his name - I've never seen that before. He came in, tipped me $20, (it was a legit tip with sound, graphics, etc.), I fulfilled his request, and he was polite and left. He is not listed in my earnings report - like it never happened. Is this some kind of promotion where they get free credits and we just have to eat it? Weird.
laurielegs
02-20-2014, 09:46 PM
Definitely not just you. The last two times I emailed them I did not get a response back. I am going to call them tomorrow about the attached screenshot. As you can see, this user has a yellow dollar sign by his name - I've never seen that before. He came in, tipped me $20, (it was a legit tip with sound, graphics, etc.), I fulfilled his request, and he was polite and left. He is not listed in my earnings report - like it never happened. Is this some kind of promotion where they get free credits and we just have to eat it? Weird.
OMG.
I do not like the sound of that. wtf.
Please let us know what they say.
Via Flaminia
02-20-2014, 10:05 PM
OMG.
I do not like the sound of that. wtf.
Please let us know what they say.
I know, right? I will let you all know what they tell me. In the past I have emailed about the "Skype free show 75% off" spammers, and they don't write back, so I'm going to call during their business hours tomorrow.
CourtneyRaine
02-21-2014, 02:25 PM
I logged in last night for a couple of hours and made $0. During that time I didn't see any guy with a $ next to his name, that's so weird. I also email them a ton about that legitaccounts guy selling Skype accounts with credits, and called and complained about him too. They've always emailed me back saying he's been blocked, but that's because in my email I always ask what they are going to do about the situation. Whenever they block him he just comes back with a slightly different variation of his name, and I ask in my email if they are going to IP ban him or work with Skype to press charges for credit card fraud, since that's exactly what he is doing. I make a big stink about it, and explain it's because as a model working under their new fraud policy *I* do not want to be penalized for *their* inability to resolve this ongoing issue.
Fun fact, I had $36.57 in my account from the other night that I cashed out to CMB. I just woke up to an email that my cash out was rejected because of insufficient funds. Sure enough, some time after 3am this morning and before CMB processed cash outs I got hit with a $2 chargeback so I am juuuuust under the minimum to cash out. Naked still has my money. Sorry, but that is just a bit too suspicious for me. I am 100% convinced that they are keeping my pathetic little amount of money on purpose, because I can't click on the adjustment to see when it was applied and who the user is. It's just a cb with no explanation that's preventing me from accessing all of my funds.
PLEASE SM reapprove me soon! I know I always said that if I switch to a new main site I would still work naked a couple of times a week for my regs, but now I am saying FUCK that. Once I get approved on Sm and get my first paycheck from them I am never logging into naked ever, ever again. Between Sm, MGF, cam4, my two non-adult streams of income, and all the other sites I am approved on that I never use but could if I wanted to, naked can kiss my fat brown ass goodbye. And you can quote me on that.
Via Flaminia
02-21-2014, 03:29 PM
^ Courtney that sucks in the worst way. I would scream into a pillow. Hardly worth mentioning, but I noticed this morning my acct has a $0.52 chargeback with no link to click and see why. I just wanted you to know you are not being singled out on this payout (at least it doesn't look that way). Still a dollar here a dollar there....the mafia does that. hahaha j/k not accusing just making an observation....
I must say it is much better now that performers do not have to take the cb hit unless it's fraud, but not much good when you are $2 from payout. So sorry, Courtney.
CourtneyRaine
02-22-2014, 02:12 PM
^Mmm hmm! Shitty timing indeed! I don't really understand why they are passing CBs on to models just to take them away a few days later after they've been investigated? I'm lucky none of my CB amounts have been too bad but when you have bills to pay by a certain date and get hit with a CB the day before it's infuriating, especially when that CB is gone within a few days anyway but now you've got a late fee. But I ain't even mad, I just got reapproved on SM and am about to make my motherfucking comeback :D I have to work on naked at least through March 2nd and I am counting down the days, man. Even though SM might be slow for me since I'll technically be a new model again, it cannot suck worse than naked. It just can't.
And how did they even give you a $0.52 chargeback. That is so freaking LAME.
tropo
02-23-2014, 07:24 AM
^^ I wish I only had $0.52 to worry about. I got yet another chargeback on ACM to make the total for this year $146 (so far). To make it even worse they charged back a private I did 5 1/2 weeks ago. I asked them if there was a time limit for CB's and they said "no". They've lost me, treating me like dirt - that's robbery - no other word for it.... and I'm one of the top models on that site.
Anyway, I'm thinking of trying some new sites with all the valuable information I'm gaining from you girls on here.
I'm already using AW, Chaturbate and SM along with 2 Asian sites. I'm signed up to F4F and LJ too, but I doubt I'm even going to try them. I can't join MFC as they don't allow applications from my country of residence.
I was thinking of trying a Cam4 and Naked combo as something to try on my days off from the other sites. Something a bit different to break the monotony but where I can still make some good money.... and it does get a bit boring after 8 years lol.
I'm also desperate for money because my family's house was severely damaged by Typhoon Haiyan which hit the Philippines in November last year.
Do you think these 2 sites would work well on a split? I'm willing to take the risk of chargebacks. Do these sites pay out 50%?
tropo
02-23-2014, 07:25 AM
*duplicate post again. I don't know why, but whenever I hit "submit quick reply" I end up posting twice. Sorry
Via Flaminia
02-23-2014, 02:08 PM
Hope it goes well, tropo. I believe CB pays 50% but they have charge backs. The chaturbate thread here is very good - I'm considering that site next. I have been on SM for 3 years, and I don't cam there much anymore because my hourly is better on Naked, actually :), for less wear & tear on my body.
tropo
02-23-2014, 02:41 PM
^^ CB has been up and down. It's not a reliable income that's for sure. I can go from earning $200 one day to nearly nothing the next, but it is difficult to combine it with a regular private site because whenever I leave to go private on the other sites the viewers drop away and I need to build them up again... but then again if I dedicate myself to CB full time it can still amount to nothing. Bear in mind that I only flash in free chat, so I need privates there to make a decent amount.
laurielegs
02-23-2014, 03:10 PM
^^ I wish I only had $0.52 to worry about. I got yet another chargeback on ACM to make the total for this year $146 (so far). To make it even worse they charged back a private I did 5 1/2 weeks ago. I asked them if there was a time limit for CB's and they said "no". They've lost me, treating me like dirt - that's robbery - no other word for it.... and I'm one of the top models on that site.
Oh wow. Maybe I should know this, but I didn't find anything on a search. What is ACM? That is horrible.
tropo
02-23-2014, 04:08 PM
It's Asiancammodels. He treats his models like dirt. When I complained about the chargeback he said he has 1000's of active models - meaning to say he doesn't give a shit - like it or lump it. He figures we should be grateful because he increases site traffic by having easy going credit card processing. The same guy ($134 private refunded guy) came into my room this evening to gloat, and when I reported it they really didn't give a damn. They just told me to block him.
Needless to say, once I've converted my big spenders to another site, I'm out of there.
CourtneyRaine
02-23-2014, 11:57 PM
I have been on SM for 3 years, and I don't cam there much anymore because my hourly is better on Naked, actually :), for less wear & tear on my body.
http://memestorage.com/_nw/20/02384240.jpg
Lol no but in all seriousness, Via, that is excellent and amazing. Naked is such a weird, weird site. Tonight I logged on for two hours, had exactly two shows (no tips) and have made $62.89 my cut. If it was always like that I would be THRILLED. Two ten minute shows with spies in two hours is definitely a lot easier on the body than the back to back quick shows I used to do on SM, and the money is definitely good on naked once you're in private if you know how to make your shows last. The problem is, for me, with naked there are far too many $0 hours. I'd like to make another $20 for the night before I go to bed and I am guessing it will take me another 4 hours. I just lucked out because both guys who took me private tonight have been my regs for a very long time (one for over a year, one for about half a year who also followed me over to MGF, but decided to pay $2/min more on naked because the cam quality is better than MGF).
@tropo, have you looked into cam4? I don't know if they offer this to models in every country, but for American and (some?) European models they offer you a guaranteed hourly pay at first until you can establish yourself. I believe the amount and number of hours differs from country to country, but I know they have many Asian models on there so you should be able to register. I actually like cam4. I don't make much other than the hourly because I rarely log on and am not consistent with it, but the guys are friendly and very laid back. They actually talk, unlike naked guys who park in your room for a freaking hour without even saying hello.
Via Flaminia
02-24-2014, 01:53 PM
Courtney, I'll send you a pm.
tropo
02-25-2014, 10:05 AM
@tropo, have you looked into cam4? I don't know if they offer this to models in every country, but for American and (some?) European models they offer you a guaranteed hourly pay at first until you can establish yourself. I believe the amount and number of hours differs from country to country, but I know they have many Asian models on there so you should be able to register. I actually like cam4. I don't make much other than the hourly because I rarely log on and am not consistent with it, but the guys are friendly and very laid back. They actually talk, unlike naked guys who park in your room for a freaking hour without even saying hello.
I singed up at Cam4, but before I start I was after a bit more info that I'm not finding easy to get. Do they have privates? What percentage do they pay? Are they heavy on chargebacks?
I'm trying so many new sites right now that I'm getting dizzy. I set up 2 computers yesterday so I could dedicate one to streaming on SM, hoping to be able to get gold show status. We have low upload bandwidth in Thailand. I was really disappointed with the external encoder they force us to use in SM. Talk about primitive. You have to re-paste streaming codes into the encoder each time you login or become disconnected. What a pain! I'm trying it at 650 kbps. Are you able to get to gold show status without widescreen?
tropo
02-25-2014, 10:06 AM
*duplicate post once again* Every time I submit a post it posts up twice.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-25-2014, 12:38 PM
I logged in last night for a couple of hours and made $0. During that time I didn't see any guy with a $ next to his name, that's so weird. I also email them a ton about that legitaccounts guy selling Skype accounts with credits, and called and complained about him too. They've always emailed me back saying he's been blocked, but that's because in my email I always ask what they are going to do about the situation. Whenever they block him he just comes back with a slightly different variation of his name, and I ask in my email if they are going to IP ban him or work with Skype to press charges for credit card fraud, since that's exactly what he is doing. I make a big stink about it, and explain it's because as a model working under their new fraud policy *I* do not want to be penalized for *their* inability to resolve this ongoing issue.
Fun fact, I had $36.57 in my account from the other night that I cashed out to CMB. I just woke up to an email that my cash out was rejected because of insufficient funds. Sure enough, some time after 3am this morning and before CMB processed cash outs I got hit with a $2 chargeback so I am juuuuust under the minimum to cash out. Naked still has my money. Sorry, but that is just a bit too suspicious for me. I am 100% convinced that they are keeping my pathetic little amount of money on purpose, because I can't click on the adjustment to see when it was applied and who the user is. It's just a cb with no explanation that's preventing me from accessing all of my funds.
PLEASE SM reapprove me soon! I know I always said that if I switch to a new main site I would still work naked a couple of times a week for my regs, but now I am saying FUCK that. Once I get approved on Sm and get my first paycheck from them I am never logging into naked ever, ever again. Between Sm, MGF, cam4, my two non-adult streams of income, and all the other sites I am approved on that I never use but could if I wanted to, naked can kiss my fat brown ass goodbye. And you can quote me on that.
Wait you can see money next to a member's name now?? Is that with that encoder thing that I never use because it makes my damn computer scream?
cherryblossomsinspring
02-25-2014, 12:44 PM
So I go into naked right. Only one guy tipped me $25. That's it. All of my regs have either become cheap bitches or have left the site and come in to do that "hey I haven't seen you" bullshit.
I went into a top model's room and she had like 8 people watching her. Yes yes we all know they pad the rooms with fake guests but nope dead as fuck. I went into room after room and it was dead I mean like 12 people or 10. This is the reason the site had died. The only models that seem to be doing well are the brand new ones. You know the guys want to record and get their screen shots so they can pimp out the newbie clips on some free clip site.
RaeRae
02-25-2014, 01:25 PM
I logged in for the first time in forever today, and god, I so didn't miss it and it's slowness at all. Makes me want to apologize to SM for all the times I've bitched about it going badly because of lack of traffic. Even at it's worst, it's still better than Naked for me.
CourtneyRaine
02-25-2014, 02:45 PM
@tropo cam4 pays around 50% depending on the token package the viewer buys. Each token is worth $0.10 to you. You can do privates but it is really more of a free chat tipping and goal show site. They do have chargebacks but I don't think they are that common. Definitely not as bad as naked. On cam4 they hold your tips in a "reserve fund" for three days where you can't access it just to make sure those tokens are legit. Once the three days is up they give the tokens to you so that you can cash them out. I believe they only apply CBs during those three days, once they release the funds to you it's yours. On naked you can have CBs from days, weeks, or months ago.
@Cherry, no, I don't think you can see the amount members have. I meant that I couldn't/still can't click on my adjustments to see from who, when, and how much each chargeback is :) Speaking of, I got hit with another CB this morning. That means that even though I worked last night I actually LOST money.
@RaeRae YES! I am finally back on SM. My first shift was only 81 minutes and I made $0 but I did not even care. I have a brand new account with a new name, new pictures, and I haven't cammed on my old account since September 2012 so I don't think my old regs will be able to find me, if they are even still on the site. I am literally starting from scratch. Even though, I am SO glad to be back, because I know the more I cam on SM and the more regs I get the better I am going to do. With naked things just seem to be going down, down, down.
Praying that my last broadcast date on naked will be on Sunday! I can't take it anymore >.< If I don't make enough for payout on SM and have to keep camming on naked until the 9th I might blow my fucking brains out.
tropo
02-25-2014, 07:58 PM
^^Thank you so much for all your valuable information. I wish I'd joined up here years ago.
By the sounds of it I'll give Naked a miss and try Cam4. Have you worked on Chaturbate? If so, would you think Cam4 is about the same for privates? If it is, I'll be ok because I get enough privates on Chaturbate to keep me happy for an extra site... sometimes I get lucky :) Because I split to other private sites I cannot do much in free other than flashes every 100 tokens or so. I'm getting a few regulars who don't mind the teasing whereas all the voyeurs looking for lots of free action have probably tired of waiting for me to strip and go elsewhere LOL.
Has anyone ever tried SakuraLive? I have the face that Japanese go crazy over, so I want to try to tap the Japanese market. They only pay 30% though, but it looks like most girls charge "2 points" per minute which is about $4, so that's not too bad if I can get some traffic.
In the meanwhile I'll complete my Cam4 registration and see what happens. You never know until you try. Maybe I can work a Chaturbate/Cam4 combo.
sweethart87
04-04-2014, 09:30 AM
I have been a model on Naked for a long time. Close to 5 years now, although I did take about a 2 year break and pursued work else where. When I first started you made $1/min in private and shortly after they started spy mode. Although I love that you now make 40% - 50% (depending on if you signed up with a studio or independently) but I have to say I'm so disappointed in how badly the site has gone down hill. Free chat is awful now. The members sit & stare with out talking. Generally if I have people talking in my free chat it's regulars from when I first started. I have had quite a few regulars tell me that Naked has over charged their accounts, or that the site won't allow them to buy credits, a few who's accounts got deleted out of no where. I've also had people tell me that at times my private button won't work or that while they try to take me private it kicks me offline rather then transfer me to the private chat. Then there are the charge backs! Oh man! For about 2-3 weeks EVERY time I put in to get paid (I use the cmb card) I would have a charge back. I finally emailed support and asked what I could do differently to stop the charge backs. They didn't give much of an answer but as of the last time I got paid there wasn't any.
Not sure what has been going on with the site but I really hope that they can change things around and somehow bring it back to how it used to be!
sweethart87
04-04-2014, 09:33 AM
I have been a model on Naked for a long time. Close to 5 years now, although I did take about a 2 year break and pursued work else where. When I first started you made $1/min in private and shortly after they started spy mode. Although I love that you now make 40% - 50% (depending on if you signed up with a studio or independently) but I have to say I'm so disappointed in how badly the site has gone down hill. Free chat is awful now. The members sit & stare with out talking. Generally if I have people talking in my free chat it's regulars from when I first started. I have had quite a few regulars tell me that Naked has over charged their accounts, or that the site won't allow them to buy credits, a few who's accounts got deleted out of no where. I've also had people tell me that at times my private button won't work or that while they try to take me private it kicks me offline rather then transfer me to the private chat. Then there are the charge backs! Oh man! For about 2-3 weeks EVERY time I put in to get paid (I use the cmb card) I would have a charge back. I finally emailed support and asked what I could do differently to stop the charge backs. They didn't give much of an answer but as of the last time I got paid there wasn't any.
Not sure what has been going on with the site but I really hope that they can change things around and somehow bring it back to how it used to be!
cherryblossomsinspring
04-04-2014, 10:11 AM
Yup I only go back for my regs. I make about $100-$250 a week there tops. Privates there now are like "huh what's that?" lol Plus I've gotten booted a few times being taken private. Actually the last one I had the guy said "why did you close it" so he took me back into private.
On top of all of that they now have a new feature I suppose copying SM.
Guys tip to get into a show but again they control too much. It only has 3 options $2, $5 or $10 and once you're in that mode you can't go private because it's greyed out. Even a member told me that models used to get more tips when they had a $10 tip button option but they removed it. Why would they even do that?
Also chargebacks appear to be about $10 a week then mysteriously $10 seems to reappear on the following check and then again $11 is gone on the next.
The problem is that new show option should have been introduced before free chat show tipping like MFC. Now members will probably not really go with the new option because for them free chat tipping and trying to drag out a show as long as possible is their ultimate goal. Plus you have the pissy members that have no intentions of every tipping a dime heckling the model because once she hits her target he's out in the cold. I actually had some guy call me a scam because not only did I start with the $10 buy in but whatever scam or fake card he was trying to use would have probably declined if he attempted that much. So he went off in my room calling me a scam saying that $10 was too much. Lol for a 5 min show it's $2.00 a min but of course the loser was looking to pay .50 or some crap.
Plus that goal doesn't even give members the option of tipping more. I should be able to get $100 for a 5 min show if the members wants to spend that much.Instead you have to wait around for someone either may not be your reg and could even refund after the show. I kinda want to rock out with my regs in one show just for them and leave the rest out. It's always the same 3-5 guys that tip anyways so it would be wonderful to do like a 30 minute or 1 hour show at a reasonable rate just with them and keep the 50+ broke watchers out.
laurielegs
04-04-2014, 11:22 AM
Yup I only go back for my regs. I make about $100-$250 a week there tops. Privates there now are like "huh what's that?" lol Plus I've gotten booted a few times being taken private. Actually the last one I had the guy said "why did you close it" so he took me back into private.
On top of all of that they now have a new feature I suppose copying SM.
Guys tip to get into a show but again they control too much. It only has 3 options $2, $5 or $10 and once you're in that mode you can't go private because it's greyed out. Even a member told me that models used to get more tips when they had a $10 tip button option but they removed it. Why would they even do that?
Also chargebacks appear to be about $10 a week then mysteriously $10 seems to reappear on the following check and then again $11 is gone on the next.
The problem is that new show option should have been introduced before free chat show tipping like MFC. Now members will probably not really go with the new option because for them free chat tipping and trying to drag out a show as long as possible is their ultimate goal. Plus you have the pissy members that have no intentions of every tipping a dime heckling the model because once she hits her target he's out in the cold. I actually had some guy call me a scam because not only did I start with the $10 buy in but whatever scam or fake card he was trying to use would have probably declined if he attempted that much. So he went off in my room calling me a scam saying that $10 was too much. Lol for a 5 min show it's $2.00 a min but of course the loser was looking to pay .50 or some crap.
Plus that goal doesn't even give members the option of tipping more. I should be able to get $100 for a 5 min show if the members wants to spend that much.Instead you have to wait around for someone either may not be your reg and could even refund after the show. I kinda want to rock out with my regs in one show just for them and leave the rest out. It's always the same 3-5 guys that tip anyways so it would be wonderful to do like a 30 minute or 1 hour show at a reasonable rate just with them and keep the 50+ broke watchers out.
I agree with all that for sure. I tried the gold show clone thing and it's not working too well so far. It's hilarious though how angry it makes the freeloaders omg! hahah
One thing I do notice about Naked - they DO take model suggestions sometimes so definitely share your thoughts. They totally need to let them tip more. I would also like to be able to start the show early if a goal is close.
SweetJulia
04-04-2014, 12:19 PM
Glad to see I didn't miss out on much by not being a staple on there, I was kind of excited to see this thread bumped, thinking it was for a good reason. Ha! :)
SweetJulia
04-10-2014, 05:26 AM
Ok, quick question for the Naked ladies lol. I'm going to be stuck at a friends' this weekend with super slow internet, so SM is out of the question. Is upload speed on Naked super important like with SM or is it pretty much a none-issue like with MFC?
Thanks in advance :)
tropo
04-10-2014, 08:46 AM
^^why not just use the browser interface on SM. I never use the encoder and do just fine.