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BeautifulDisaster
11-06-2012, 09:13 AM
^^ Ha ha! My thoughts exactly.

laydee89
11-06-2012, 02:57 PM
Are you with a studio? Are you with venetian through Naked.com? It may be to maximize profits through training OR lots of rules have been broken. Where is the email? Your actual email or your naked email account?

Yes I signed up through the site and it showed Venetian. The email was sent to my regular yahoo that I signed up with so not really too sure why there is a model orientation that I have to schedule on webcam. 1st time hearing about this.

laydee89
11-06-2012, 03:17 PM
I received the SAME email, and I signed up through naked.com. The email is from [email protected], it freaked me out because I've never heard of anyone doing this nor am I comfortable with doing so. I will post the email I received. As soon as I received this email I then received a call from an unknown number, and I don't ever answer my phone for unknown numbers and upon investigating that # it was connected to brazzers.com. I'm not sure if it was legit or not, but regardless I decided against signing up with naked. Now here's the email.

"Hi *****,

Your application has been approved by our compliance department. In order to login and begin earning money, we first need to schedule you for Model Orientation. We will cover some basic rules to follow and how best to use the Naked.com model console.

Once you have completed the Model Orientation you will be able to access your account and begin working.

* PLEASE FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS *

Here's what we need from you during Model Orientation:

1. Be next to the computer that you will be working from. (You will be on live camera during orientation)
2. Your computer should be ON and have all programs closed.
3. Webcam installed and working on your computer. We recommend this camera to stream in High Quality: Logitech HD Pro! C920 Webcam
4. Please have the latest version of Mozilla Firefox installed on your computer. You can download it here: Mozilla Firefox
5. Be ready at the time your appointment is scheduled.

Model Orientation can be scheduled between 11am and 5pm Eastern Time Monday - Friday.

*** REPLY TO THIS EMAIL with your availability (Eastern Time) and your PHONE NUMBER ***

You can also reach me at 305.424.8643 until 5:30pm eastern time.

Best,
Fabio
Naked.com
Model Orientation"

I also recieved that exact same email. And they took forever to approve me. I haven't replied back yet. Wanted to make sure Fabio is not a studio man lol

EvilChick1989
11-06-2012, 03:49 PM
wtf o.O

whirlerz
11-06-2012, 03:58 PM
weird!

xobarbiexo
11-06-2012, 04:57 PM
There might have been a lot of rule breakers or girls not knowing wtf to do. They probably are just making girls do orientation to maximize profits. Also, naked has a billion new rules. WTF?! No music once so ever, wtf why? Does anyone know why?

xobarbiexo
11-06-2012, 04:59 PM
Is it for legal reasons? maybe copyright reasons? I dunno but no music in video clips, which makes sense. No music in private nor free chat? Maybe bc of copyright laws, but no other sites have enforced this. Camming will be crappy if no sites allow music anymore.

CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 05:07 PM
The no music thing has been a rule since I first signed up in March, not sure how it's a "new" rule. My guess? SOPA/PIPA. If in the future the gov't starts cracking down on sites that are violating copyright laws they're going to be looking to see what sites (including cam sites) are displaying brand names without written consent and playing music without paying royalties. Yes, it makes camming on naked boring as hell but if you look at it from a purely legal perspective, it makes sense that they are choosing to safeguard themselves against potential piracy claims.

Do y'all remember almost a year ago when we were all (almost all of us, anyway) worried about SOPA and how to protect ourselves, and one thing that was mentioned was to not play music in your room unless it's public license? Well naked is taking a stance and protecting themselves and us.

Or maybe they just hate music. I don't know. I'm only speculating right now.

ConnyLove
11-06-2012, 05:14 PM
yes it's for legal reason, I have asked to support at least 3 times. I replied saying right now there are more than 20 girls playing music in their rooms, even some of the top girls but most of them were studio girls. Guess what ? They didn't reply to that email. I am sure if the real reason was for copyright matters they will ensure that every performer was not playing music .

xobarbiexo
11-06-2012, 05:22 PM
I signed up 2 yrs ago but haven't logged on in over a year. There are a billion new rules my inbox was stuffed

xobarbiexo
11-06-2012, 05:23 PM
Ugh and if I get caught playing music I'll get fined... Lame

CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 06:56 PM
@barbie, I'm sorry that you think it's lame to follow the rules.

@conny, yes, I think you are right. I asked their "live help" a few weeks ago if playing music is allowed because I just wanted to double check, as I have seen a handful of models play music in the background. "Live help" told me that it is NOT allowed but if some girls do it while trying to get goal shows they're not exactly going to be shutting down account because of it. BUT, "Live help" is supposed to be for technical issues, NOT policy issues. If you want a definitive answer, ask your studio. If you don't like how the rules are, don't apply? I agree it's completely boring to cam for 8 hours straight without background noise but really, they are telling you the rules upfront, only YOU cam decide whether or not you are willing to follow along.

ConnyLove
11-06-2012, 07:24 PM
Exactly Courtney I think that sooner or later they will enforced it. In any regulatory situation some people will comply voluntarily, some will not comply, and some will comply only if they see that others receive a sanction for breaking the rules. Around 6 months ago I noticed that more than 90% of the models were not playing music, but over the past month I've seen many girls doing it . Maybe they are new models and they just don't care about it. I really don't know ...

xobarbiexo
11-06-2012, 07:44 PM
no what is lame is if I get caught playing music I will get fined, but others are allowed to do so... Don't be so quick to assume

CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 08:28 PM
no what is lame is if I get caught playing music I will get fined, but others are allowed to do so... Don't be so quick to assume

No, what is lame is if you think you are exempt from site rules, even though the site is telling you the rules from the get-go. What makes you so special that you don't have to follow the same rules that I do? Honey, please. I am not assuming anything. The SITE is telling you no music. You choose to play music anyway? You get caught? I have no sympathy for you. You're not better than anyone else on here.

xobarbiexo
11-06-2012, 08:36 PM
whoa whoa whoa calm down. re-read the thread and take a chill pill. You are not understanding anything I am writing. Chill out.

CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 09:13 PM
^ You are right, barbie. I do not understand anything at all. I am *totally* going to take a "chill pill" because you tell me to. I am going to ignore the issue of whether or not models should play music on naked, and I am going to bow out to you because you tell me to. That seems like a logical and fair conclusion to this discussion. Yep!

Via Flaminia
11-11-2012, 01:17 AM
I received the Fabio email last week. I'm glad to hear others received it. This is the first time I will be camming on a site other than SM & I'm sure it will be interesting.:) Thanks for the info everyone!

TM1975
11-12-2012, 06:57 PM
So has anyone gone through with the On Cam Orientation? I got my mail from Fabio today, just wondering what the orientation will include?

qwerty24
11-14-2012, 11:59 AM
Umm... It says I cant sign up because I'm not from US. Is that true for everyone? Is it US only site? Or is it just the studio that I got?

ConnyLove
11-14-2012, 12:31 PM
Maybe is the studio or they have closed applications for models outside USA. Actually there are many girls from Argentine , Colombia and Europe.

HustletteDiva
11-14-2012, 12:38 PM
I signed up with Naked a long time ago but never finished the process...may give it a try one of these days..But anyway as far as the music thing goes...here is an idea that may work for you ladies..You could always get ear plugs with your Mp3/Ipod and just wear the device around your arms like people do when they workout. Hey, that's an solution..LOL Even if you are the only one vibing to the music and the guys can not hear..*shrug*...hahaha Or another thing is royalty free music or copyright free music if they allow that but if they don't then the other one should suffice.

curvydancer25
11-14-2012, 03:39 PM
They came in my room during a pvt and told me to turn my music off. They told me while I was in public chat to turn my music off. I still play my music. I know for a fact other girls play music. Whatever...I haven't gotten fined yet. Until that happens, I'm gonna keep playing it because how the hell can I cam without music. I talk as well but music gets the room in that party mode ;) I remember one time I was in pvt and a guy kept asking if he could give me his email. I kept telling him we couldn't exchange private information so to shut him up I said, go ahead and give me your email. They came in my room and said I'm not suppose to get any personal information from customers. Then they sent me an email telling me I'm not suppose to get emails from guys and blah blah. They need to understand that acting is a part of this camming thing, and if I have to act like I'm getting his email to shut him up then that's what I'm gonna do. I never contacted the guy outside of the site but he still tips and takes me pvt. Not sure where I'm going with this but...bye ;)

CamKaty
11-14-2012, 09:46 PM
I got the same message. They said, that at moment they do not take non US models and will let know if that changes.

xobarbiexo
11-15-2012, 03:42 AM
Are twitter banners against the rules now?

TM1975
11-15-2012, 01:43 PM
Since I complete my application on naked.com I have been receiving emails daily (multiple emails) saying that I have been approved and that I need to do the on cam training. I got a phone call 2 days ago from a number that I didn't know and when I googled it I found that it belongs to Brazzers, to me this is bordering on harassment. I mean I've applied and work on quite a few different sites and have never had one call my phone! I'm just wondering what would happen if I did start working on there and decided to take a few days or weeks off, would they be calling me then too? I started camming because I want to be my own boss and not have to be told when or how I need to do something. I'm thinking they might not be the site for me.

Via Flaminia
11-15-2012, 01:54 PM
Hi everyone,

I just completed my naked.com "orientation." It was very simple - 25 min & they show how to log in, use the site, etc. They also go over the site rules & test your cam.

I am just happy to try something new and have an actual human being to talk to (ex: they have a Live Help) button, that's encouraging. lol

I did not receive any phone calls before the orientation but I did get a lot of emails from Fabio reminding me to sign up for the orientation.

Hopefully I'll try the site tomorrow. SM has been a joke.

TM1975
11-15-2012, 02:44 PM
Thanks for the info Via! Do you happen to know what their payout % is? I've looked around and can't seem to come up with the answer.

ConnyLove
11-15-2012, 02:50 PM
Thanks for the info Via! Do you happen to know what their payout % is? I've looked around and can't seem to come up with the answer.

They will let you know once you have been signed . It's U$ 2 per minute for most of the girls with Venetian Studio and 50 % of the tips, but I know that some girls get U$ 1.50 and others $ 2.50.

TM1975
11-15-2012, 02:54 PM
Ok cool, thanks Conny!

Via Flaminia
11-15-2012, 02:54 PM
Hi TM, I was told the model payout is 50/50. Also, we get 50/50 for the videos we sell (vids are $10), according to my training this morning. To my knowledge, naked has a no chargeback policy (I'm sure there are exceptions) but this is a huge plus for me because I don't trust the customers for sh*t. hahaha

I have read lots of advice from the ladies on SW about naked, so I am proceeding with caution. My biggest concern is about traffic, but there is no way to know until I find my groove there.

Via Flaminia
11-15-2012, 02:57 PM
I should clarify that I am signed with naked through Venetian, so that's where I am getting my info.

TM1975
11-15-2012, 03:19 PM
I signed up directly from the 'become a model' link right on the naked.com page. Is that Venetian?

Via Flaminia
11-15-2012, 03:45 PM
I signed up directly from the 'become a model' link right on the naked.com page. Is that Venetian?

Yes, I also went to Naked.com and signed up using the "models wanted" link. This was the only choice I was given when signing up (in other words, there was no "indy" option or option to waive Venetian, etc). Venetian is the Naked.com official "studio" from what I have read here (thanks ladies). I do not know why Naked has Venetian but it is probably for tax reasons or something similar.

ConnyLove
11-22-2012, 07:01 AM
I got the same message. They said, that at moment they do not take non US models and will let know if that changes.

I have seen this week new models working for South American studios. So it's not true that they are just accepting new models from US. No good !

0TaraM
11-22-2012, 07:16 AM
For me thay do not answer at all.. I did aplication and nothin happened. Just silence.

CourtneyRaine
12-03-2012, 01:01 PM
#1. This site is becoming very slow for me. So many new girls, not enough new guys. Hmph.

#2. I noticed a discrepancy with my earnings this weekend; I've added up the amount I made each day but my total earnings reflects a penny less. It's not a huge deal but it's kind of irking me. I think it has something to do with my video sales, as I sold two this weekend at $5 each but my total video sales for the month is listed at $9.99 rather than $10. So... what am I missing? I tried contacting their live help to ask but all of the operators were busy.

#3. I have the CMB paycard and usually cash out once or maybe twice a week at $9.95 each time. So that's $10-20/week I'm missing out on, which is okay with me because it's convenient but it adds up after a few months. Are these fees tax deductible as some type of business expense? When Naked sends me my 1099 I am assuming it is going to reflect what I actually earned before all of the cash out fees? I estimate that I'll have spent a couple of hundred in cash out fees my the end of this year and knowing my luck the difference would put me in a higher tax bracket, which I'd like to avoid. If you were with naked and had the cmb paycard last year how did you handle your taxes?

Via Flaminia
12-03-2012, 01:42 PM
Hi Courtney,

How are you? Re #1, yes, I see what you mean about the traffic spreading thin on Naked. I must preface by saying that I'm one of those "new girls" so I don't have the perspective you do. I'm trying to be patient with the site and giving it a chance to work for me. As soon as I get a new computer I'm going to use Naked to split cam. Yikes I hope my attention span works with me.

Re #2, It seems like those Naked "Live Chat" operators are outsourced people who are working off a script. They are wayyy better than help I get from SM support, for example, but it is still funny to hear their generic answers. Of course, you were having trouble getting in contact with them so I guess my experience is irrelevant. :-D I'm sorry, though. Would Ashley from naked be able to help you? I can send you her email in a pvt message.

Re #3 I would ask the Tax Domme about that. I am a member of the Bar in more than one state but I will not give legal advice here except to say that a "person in your situation on this general issue" re #3 can probably use those fees as a legit write off. Also, have Tax Domme explain about tax brackets, because most people think of "going into a higher tax bracket" as one thing and it really isn't what most people expect - if done correctly it can be an opportunity for more writeoffs/less taxes overall.

I better stop now. I know from experience that anything said here in CC can be picked apart for the purposes of lecturing a noob/debate/etc etc and I don't want to come off that way to you. I don't like it when other people do it to me.

Cheers!! BTW you really helped me when I got started on Naked~ I really took your input/advice to heart!!

CourtneyRaine
12-03-2012, 01:52 PM
Yes, this whole tax thing with naked/cmb confuses me. I've been camming since 2010 but this is the first year that I've had to pay such high fees in order to receive my money so I'm not quite sure how to go about it. I usually file on my own using TurboTax but this year I might have to suck it up and file through a profssional service. I would *think* that those CMB fees don't actually count as income because I never have access to any of the money, it's like it never even existed on my end, but I know it will exist on my 1099 and those are the official numbers I have to go by. Ugh. Hate taxes.

And I love naked's support! They are always super helpful, waaaaaaay better than SM, which is why I was so bummed they're all busy this morning.

Via Flaminia
12-03-2012, 02:08 PM
Taxes can be painful, I know. I walk away and come back 2 days later to the paper stack and say "Where was I again?" hahaha

As much as it sucks, I would say ditch Turbo Tax and do them manually. Turbo Tax often does not take into account the obscure deductions/rules/situations & the more forms you are submitting the worse it is. Also in previous versions of Turbo Tax I have seen new tax laws slip through the cracks and I have had calculations not add up correctly - not good. Doing by hand is time consuming and a huge UGGGH but it can actually save you money & maybe give u peace of mind. It's a monster pain, I know.

I say, if it's on the 1099, it's fair game. Was there an equipment purchase/cable expense/other during the tax year that you can tie these fees to? I can't say what I would do, but if they were my fees I could consider them a business expense/office expense and could proceed that way - I think it's possible.

laurielegs
12-04-2012, 04:19 PM
#3. I have the CMB paycard and usually cash out once or maybe twice a week at $9.95 each time. So that's $10-20/week I'm missing out on, which is okay with me because it's convenient but it adds up after a few months. Are these fees tax deductible as some type of business expense? When Naked sends me my 1099 I am assuming it is going to reflect what I actually earned before all of the cash out fees? I estimate that I'll have spent a couple of hundred in cash out fees my the end of this year and knowing my luck the difference would put me in a higher tax bracket, which I'd like to avoid. If you were with naked and had the cmb paycard last year how did you handle your taxes?

It's the same thing as if you opted for a check and paid monthly fees to your bank to have a bank account or a fee to a check cashing service. The fees are a business expense. Your 1099 will show the full amount and you will still owe tax for the total amount of your earnings so you deduct the fees as an expense.

I want to get ahead enough where I never have to use that card (keep getting sick and getting behind though). It's convenient but way too expensive overall!

xobarbiexo
12-04-2012, 05:10 PM
Is there a way to go to Venetian from your studio? My studio is in a diff state, I signed up years ago, and the pay is screwed up

CourtneyRaine
12-04-2012, 06:09 PM
I want to get ahead enough where I never have to use that card (keep getting sick and getting behind though). It's convenient but way too expensive overall!

Amen! Whatever it is I hope you get better soon. I have been having GI problems for months, was supposed to go in for a colonoscopy and upper endoscopy back in September but I chickened out. Then I had pneumonia for the entire month of November. I'll be getting private health insurance in a few months so hopefully when I can get some treatment I can go back to camming/making money on a more consistent basis. Until then I'm stuck with this darned CMB Paycard. It's great if you cam inconsistently or are in a bind and need fast cash but I will definitely be switching to another payment menthod as soon as possible. I'm paying $40-$80/month just in CMB fees, it's dreadful. Aaaaaand they've been paying me later and later. This month I almost got hit with a $50 late fee on my rent because CMB fell behind in processing payments over the weekend (so they said). 40 minutes later and I would have owed $50. Ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure if you want to switch studios you have to contact your current studio and ask them to release you. If I remember reading correctly I think they will just transfer you so you don't have to reapply or anything, but some studios give girls a hard time about leaving.

annabellz
12-04-2012, 08:34 PM
The fees would definitely be an expense that would 'survive' an audit as long you have sufficient proof. Since I dont work naked/dont use that card, I have no idea if you get a statement you can pull up online, but Im assuming you do. To be safe you should print out the account activity periodically and highlight the fees youre claiming. (If youre relying on being able to access the site if/when your audited -dont. Audits can come years in the future and youre info for that year may no longer be accessible, or like epassporte it may no longer exist)

The only time youd have a hard time claiming fees would be if you had a bank account where you were mixing business and personal finances and then you attempted to claim the fees as business expenses. But for something like above, where the money is clearly all business, the fees are deductible with the supporting proof.

laurielegs
12-04-2012, 09:03 PM
Amen! Whatever it is I hope you get better soon. I have been having GI problems for months, was supposed to go in for a colonoscopy and upper endoscopy back in September but I chickened out. Then I had pneumonia for the entire month of November. I'll be getting private health insurance in a few months so hopefully when I can get some treatment I can go back to camming/making money on a more consistent basis. Until then I'm stuck with this darned CMB Paycard. It's great if you cam inconsistently or are in a bind and need fast cash but I will definitely be switching to another payment menthod as soon as possible. I'm paying $40-$80/month just in CMB fees, it's dreadful. Aaaaaand they've been paying me later and later. This month I almost got hit with a $50 late fee on my rent because CMB fell behind in processing payments over the weekend (so they said). 40 minutes later and I would have owed $50. Ridiculous.

Thanks Courtney! I've been getting a lot of migraines. I may have to go on some daily preventative meds again (been trying to avoid that but they have been so bad lately).

Hope you feel better soon too. It's so frustrating to want to work and you just can't do it some days.

whirlerz
12-23-2012, 05:37 PM
bump!!!

CourtneyRaine
12-24-2012, 10:44 AM
Site's been slow as heck for me. There's your bump :P

No seriously, it's been awful. I'm having waaaaay too many $0 hours lately. I spend all day sitting there in free chat because I'm terrified that as soon as I log out I'll miss that $50 private. Not sure if it's the holidays or too many new girls and not enough new guys. Either way, I've been looking for a new site.

ConnyLove
12-24-2012, 11:39 AM
Site's been slow as heck for me. There's your bump :P

No seriously, it's been awful. I'm having waaaaay too many $0 hours lately. I spend all day sitting there in free chat because I'm terrified that as soon as I log out I'll miss that $50 private. Not sure if it's the holidays or too many new girls and not enough new guys. Either way, I've been looking for a new site.

You are not alone Courtney , it's been so slow for me too and as you said many $ 0 - 10 hours :-(

CourtneyRaine
12-24-2012, 11:52 AM
Conny, are you on any other sites? I do MGF and it's picking up but definitely not a full time income for me. Also have a Chaturbate account but after reading what you said in another thread, I might just not go back there. I'm also trying to get back on SM but am dealing with some studio drama. It's so hard to find a good site these days.

ConnyLove
12-24-2012, 12:22 PM
Conny, are you on any other sites? I do MGF and it's picking up but definitely not a full time income for me. Also have a Chaturbate account but after reading what you said in another thread, I might just not go back there. I'm also trying to get back on SM but am dealing with some studio drama. It's so hard to find a good site these days.

Courtney, I am in SM through Daily Pay , and it's been good for me, but I don't want to work just in one site. Naked was ok for some months but right now is a waste of time,I was planning to split cam on naked and Chaturbate but now naked uses the encoder too and after founding out the forum : "how to record , rip and snag Chaturbate's rooms" , I think I am not coming back there. Ahhhh I am on Xlove.com but paid traffic is worst than in naked ! We really need to find another site !