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rickdugan
09-15-2011, 10:30 AM
Now as we all know, all else being equal, the bigger fish naturally garner more attention than the minnows in a SC. Now I am no whale by any stretch, but I usually make a decent contribution to a good night for a dancer and will have her attention for as long as I want it, or at least for a couple of hours of non-strenuous work. And, of course, I become a really good night for certain more understanding girls. ;)

Last night I became a minnow. Just as I was getting settled next to my fav, William (not his real name of course) walked in the door. William is a local artist who has made it big and spends a veritable fortune every time he walks in the door. He hands out Benjamins as stage tips and being selected by him for entertainment is like having a winning daily pick lottery ticket. As luck would have it, he asked my fav to join him and, of course, with the prospect of earning an easy $1,000 and probably a lot more, there was no way she could say no. And of course I had no intention of dropping that kind of cash simply to hang with a girl, so all I could do was wish her luck.

I don't begrudge her at all of course. She made $2k off of him during his last visit, and could easily make that much again, so of course she needed to sit with him. And she was good enough to go out of her way to swing by every time he disappeared for a smoke or a bathroom break, which she certainly didn't have to do.

But what a humbling experience. On most nights I am on the other side of that fence, but last night I was the guy who got ditched for a bigger spender. All I could do is sit there with a bemused smile. And the icing on this cake is that I sat there alone since, of course, to the other girls I am still the fav's customer. :P

Karma can be a real bitch. ;D

Raider
09-15-2011, 10:54 AM
But what a humbling experience...................... .................................................. ....... And the icing on this cake is that I sat there alone since, of course, to the other girls I am still the fav's customer. :P

Karma can be a real bitch. ;D


Yep, having been in your shoes it can be a humbling experience yet it does help to keep things in perspective. I too have frequently run into the 'he is her customer' scenario which can be frustrating as I am usually not one to approach and ask. I understand the respect between dancers but it can be especially frustrating when in the club on a different day or shift than the 'favorite dancer' and the other ladies will still ignore you because you 'belong' to her. ummmm....dont you think I knew she wouldn't be there???

slowpoke
09-15-2011, 12:41 PM
But what a humbling experience. On most nights I am on the other side of that fence, but last night I was the guy who got ditched for a bigger spender. All I could do is sit there with a bemused smile. And the icing on this cake is that I sat there alone since, of course, to the other girls I am still the fav's customer. :P

Karma can be a real bitch. ;D

Humility is good for you.

rickdugan
09-15-2011, 12:50 PM
Humility is good for you.

So I've heard. ;)

All joking aside, I don't have much ego invested in this hobby and I found it more amusing than anything. I've been doing this for a long time and it is inevitable that, every so often, a guy is going to show up who is willing to drop serious money and he will attract whichever dancer he wants, including the one sitting next to me. I spend enough to maintain decent loyalty on most nights, but I harbor no illusions.

I will admit, however, that I also felt moments of mild annoyance over the fact that, for me, the place suddenly transformed into nothing more than a bar with topless girls. The interaction is where the fun is IMO and there is no doubt that I have become spoiled over time. Between the increasing relative value of my spending during this protracted economic downturn and the fact that I tend to target slower nights for my visits, it has been a while since I've run into this sort of thing.

Oh well, c'est la vie.

uncontrol
09-15-2011, 03:13 PM
I dislike the whole customer ownership thing. It's just as bad as customers who think their favorite should be spending time with them and pass up on more lucrative source of money.

yoda57us
09-15-2011, 08:31 PM
I rarely go to clubs at night which seems to be the time of day that the big spenders show up. Years ago I can remember getting blown-off by an old fav for a guy who was doing VIP after VIP with her. No biggie, some one else at another club got my money that night.

I've always had an agreement with all of my favs that I will never get upset if they land a live one and have to stay with him as long as they don't get upset if I leave or spend my money on another dancer. It's always worked pretty well though, honestly, I can't remember the last time I had to wait for more than an hour for a regular lady of mine.

One of my long-time favs had a big spender for about two years. He was good for a grand a week or more. She always knew what day I was coming and would text me if this guy showed up knowing that he was going to monopolize her afternoon. He finally blew it by asking her out a few months ago and behaving like a dick-head when she turned him down. He's now relegated to "least favored spender" status and only gets the amount of time he pays for in the dance booth. I suppose this guy did cause me some minor annoyance over the years. On the other hand, my fav and I usually have some pretty funny conversations about these guys over dinner at our favorite restaurant so I guess my $200 a visit is enough to get me what I want...

bigmarv
09-16-2011, 03:53 PM
I had a favorite do the same thing to me one night, but she did explain to me that he only came in to the club about once every six months and always spent a lot of money on her. So she went to the trouble of setting me up with another hot dancer and I ended up that night having a very good time in VIP. :)

The_Oceans
09-16-2011, 09:07 PM
Humility is good for you.


So I've heard. ;)

No matter how much I spend, I always think that most nights there will be someone there who will really be able to make my girl's night. So there's no begrudging when she leaves to rope that whale.

(Besides, even though I'm only a "medium roller" at best, there will be the rare night that I'm the whale.) :D

yoda57us
09-17-2011, 11:24 AM
(Besides, even though I'm only a "medium roller" at best, there will be the rare night that I'm the whale.) :D

Same with me and, honestly, I like it that way. I'm not cheap but I don't want to be anyone's biggest customer either. I'm fine with going in at off-peak times, spending decently and being appreciated for not being a dick-head. It's always worked well for me. The few times that I have been some girl's "best" customer it has always caused drama in some form or another.

rickdugan
09-18-2011, 06:48 PM
Dang rick!
Last night I was having a similar experience 3000 miles away from you!

Showed up at a local club after being texted by hot dancer. I show up only to see someone "making it rain" big time during her stage show. Uh oh....I can tell this isn't good. She comes out to the floor and comes over to me & asks me very coyly if I can hang out and wait for her after she "attends" to this guy. No prob, I say. Apparently he's a big-spending reg of hers. She mumbled something about "hating when this type of thing happens" , gave me a kiss and ran off. Like rick's situation, I am also a marked possession, and at most the other dancers wave "hi" to me from a safe, non-threatening distance. Crap.

I am having a deja vu moment. ;) Mine had also texted me to see what I was doing and, when ye ol' high roller walked in, mine asked me to hang out while she "deals with" this guy. After two hours of sitting there like an island in the stream, I packed it up and left.

The more I deal with this local fav/reg crap the less I like it. I think it is time for a couple of road trips to some of my favorite haunts down south. }:D

BouncerDude
09-19-2011, 10:38 AM
Seems to me one should be able to pursue alternative plans. Just because you are regularly with one girl does not mean you cannot ask another girl. If the arrangement is so possessive, that needs to be fixed anyway. Nobody owns you, especially in a strip club.

johnsamuels
09-19-2011, 10:59 AM
Surely there were other attractive girls in the club you could have spent some time with?

bem401
09-19-2011, 12:06 PM
I never had a problem taking a back seat to the occasional big spender. While active, I'd say I was slightly better than a "medium roller", ($300-$400 a week). The club was 10 min from my house and I was there several times a week, so postponing a session in the booth a day or two was never that big a deal and the girls appreciated it. No dancer ever actually lost a dance because she begged off to cash in on some other guy.

yoda57us
09-19-2011, 03:17 PM
The more I deal with this local fav/reg crap the less I like it. I think it is time for a couple of road trips to some of my favorite haunts down south. }:D

LOL, no argument from me but my approach has changed over the years to minimize getting cock-blocked. I have a fav, maybe two, in six or seven different clubs and I have phone contact with all of them. In Providence especially it's no big deal if the dancer I went to see is tied up. I make a few texts, see who else is working and just go to another club.

I was in Maryland last week and checked-out a new club for the first time in about a year. It was an interesting feeling being in a club where absolutely no dancers had any expectation of income from me...

sadbuttrue
09-19-2011, 03:53 PM
If it was a dancer that I had a regular time with or it got to be a habit, then I might be annoyed. But I have not gone back to that "one regular above all" and I have a bunch of dancers in three states. 8)

Sad

rickdugan
09-19-2011, 04:09 PM
Surely there were other attractive girls in the club you could have spent some time with?

Sure, I doubt that any of them would have turned down LD money, but chasing after them is really not part of my gig.

rickdugan
09-19-2011, 04:24 PM
LOL, no argument from me but my approach has changed over the years to minimize getting cock-blocked. I have a fav, maybe two, in six or seven different clubs and I have phone contact with all of them. In Providence especially it's no big deal if the dancer I went to see is tied up. I make a few texts, see who else is working and just go to another club.

I was in Maryland last week and checked-out a new club for the first time in about a year. It was an interesting feeling being in a club where absolutely no dancers had any expectation of income from me...

Did you ever make it out to Player's Club?

I hear what you are saying. I love that feeling of adventure in a road club. I have a particular gig that works well for me in many - but certainly not all - places. Every night starts with endless possibilities. I love the buildup involved in meeting a new girl and the workup from a few dollars ITC to more serious money OTC. I also enjoy seeing that moment when she decides that she is going to leave the club with me or visit when it closes.

This local stuff was fun for a while, but it has lost its novelty. I have started spreading it out more locally in recent weeks, but the convenience issues still remain. Now I am really waiting for the next string of road trips, which should be coming soon.

JoeUnCool
09-20-2011, 05:13 AM
This is something I just don't *get*, but then again, I understand the relationship. Her goal is to make money. Corollary to this: I can spend my money on whoever I want. If you want to stay, find another dancer. If you don't want to stay, leave and find another club, keep the money for another time, or do something else. This concept that somehow I am a dancer's customer or she is my dancer, is soooo......ugh.

If you want to piss in the tall wheat with the big dogs, I'd suggest more money per trip, which probably means fewer trips and more money per trip. It will all balance out the same to the bank account. Don't worry rick, we still love you and I do enjoy living vicariously through you. :)

rockie
09-20-2011, 09:07 AM
RD: There is the lightly played "show me" return engagement whereby she has to remind you why you visit or your butt doesn't come back through those doors so willingly. I've been put on the backburner, decided times up, and moved on down the road (that trip or many subsequent trips). At another point in time, it usually gets mentioned by a fav or two that I don't visit as often anymore - my response is along the lines of "today you can remind what I've been missing." Sometimes the results are spectacular and sometimes it's a "ho hum" experience and I take some more time off from that particular club. I don't choose to burn bridges that I might want to recross, so I play nice,8)

yoda57us
09-20-2011, 02:47 PM
^ LOL, I don't believe in second chances but then again I haven't felt "downgraded" for quite a few years. My personal pet peeve is the blatant OTC tease. I don't ask for OTC, in fact I don't even hint around about it, so if you are offering you better put up or shut up. There is a very cute Brazilian dancer at a club in RI who is wondering, as she texts me every few weeks, why she hasn't seen me since May...

yoda57us
09-20-2011, 03:27 PM
Did you ever make it out to Player's Club?


I ended up at Gentleman's Gold Club. It was a Wednesday night and they run a beer special and a $20 LD special on Wednesday so I figured it was a good place to start! Lot's of chubby white chicks but a few really hot black girls. Good LD contact though they are bikini dances. All in all a good take.

I was gonna try Players Club later in the week but I was able to line up a visit with and old fav escort during my trip home so I saved the cash for that...

rickdugan
09-20-2011, 04:03 PM
This is something I just don't *get*, but then again, I understand the relationship. Her goal is to make money. Corollary to this: I can spend my money on whoever I want. If you want to stay, find another dancer. If you don't want to stay, leave and find another club, keep the money for another time, or do something else. This concept that somehow I am a dancer's customer or she is my dancer, is soooo......ugh.

If you want to piss in the tall wheat with the big dogs, I'd suggest more money per trip, which probably means fewer trips and more money per trip. It will all balance out the same to the bank account. Don't worry rick, we still love you and I do enjoy living vicariously through you. :)

LOL Joe. Don't worry, I'll be ok. ;) I simply threw this out for conversation purposes and I certainly understand what her goals are, as well as my options in that situation.

I also run into this type of thing now and again in my road adventures, except in the road clubs it is quite easy to just shift to another girl. The real point of the post was to not highlight the outspent part - which will happen from time to time - but that the other girls were not trying to take the money that I otherwise would have spent on my fav because they view me as her regular. I almost believe that I could have taped a Benjamin to my head and have been perfectly safe from any predatory approaches.

I will never spend more than a certain amount in a club trip, regardless of the frequency of my visits. ROI is definitely part of the equation for me and I have no intention of getting in a spending competition for the affections of a stripper. I am a decent to good catch on most nights for most girls and that is enough for me.

In particular, on my road trips my gig involves a hell of a lot of sizzle with a fairly decent, but not huge, stake. In fact, giving her too much money ITC is the quickest way of spending yourself out of an OTC adventure. If she is already fat on your cash ITC, why should she go with you OTC?

BouncerDude
09-22-2011, 07:17 AM
I just think a little jealousy could be good for this type of situation. Easily achieved by attention to another dancer. Not too much as to cause serious drama, but just enough to remind each other there is no ownership. I so dislike possessive behavior. It might be good for you too.

pastmyprime2
09-28-2011, 11:31 AM
I too am beginning to experience the effects of being labeled as my favs guy. I have talked with other dancers and have even put a couple on notice that I have an interest in spending time with them and giving them my money when my fav isn't there or has a big spender.

IS that an acceptable way to proceed? Any pitfalls I should be warned about?

Its kind of like telling a dancer she's second string, but on any day could be in the starting line up....

BouncerDude
09-29-2011, 01:29 PM
Pastprime2, you have put your fav at the top of your list, but what position are you in her list? Your relationship is not exclusive, is it?

If this has been a long standing arrangement any change to it would need to worked out mutually and very carefully (obviously). Maybe get her to talk about it first. Ask her how she feels about the current arrangement. Ask her what changes she would want. Etc. Any kind of bad reaction to these questions closes the door on the discussion.

rickdugan
10-01-2011, 08:09 AM
I just think a little jealousy could be good for this type of situation. Easily achieved by attention to another dancer. Not too much as to cause serious drama, but just enough to remind each other there is no ownership. I so dislike possessive behavior. It might be good for you too.

Dude. this is one of the oldest PL gimmicks in existence and savvy dancers see right through it. It is also just pathetic behavior on its face and I have no intention of going through silly antics in a pointless bid to keep the attention of a dancer, nor should any other self-respecting man.

I try to do what I want, when I want. But that does not mean that I always get what I want. Case in point: About two months ago the same fav was finishing up with another guy and went with him when a 2 for 1 was announced. Sitting there quite bored and, of course, with no other girl daring to approach me, I decided to take the initiative and ask another hot young girl for the dances. She gave me the dances, but they were lackluster and, once my fav finished with the other guy and sat down with me, the other girl even came over to apologize - in Russian of course - for dancing with me!

Like it or not, the dancers in many clubs live by a certain code of conduct and are generally careful not to appear as if they are trying to steal other girls' regulars. While we may not like it, especially once we find ourselves slotted into the "regular" category, the alternative for the dancers would be to make the club a cutthroat free for all, so it is understandable from their standpoint.

JoeUnCool
10-02-2011, 06:34 AM
Dude. this is one of the oldest PL gimmicks in existence and savvy dancers see right through it. It is also just pathetic behavior on its face and I have no intention of going through silly antics in a pointless bid to keep the attention of a dancer, nor should any other self-respecting man.

I try to do what I want, when I want. But that does not mean that I always get what I want. Case in point: About two months ago the same fav was finishing up with another guy and went with him when a 2 for 1 was announced. Sitting there quite bored and, of course, with no other girl daring to approach me, I decided to take the initiative and ask another hot young girl for the dances. She gave me the dances, but they were lackluster and, once my fav finished with the other guy and sat down with me, the other girl even came over to apologize - in Russian of course - for dancing with me!

Like it or not, the dancers in many clubs live by a certain code of conduct and are generally careful not to appear as if they are trying to steal other girls' regulars. While we may not like it, especially once we find ourselves slotted into the "regular" category, the alternative for the dancers would be to make the club a cutthroat free for all, so it is understandable from their standpoint.

I would have gently but forcefully made it clear that I am no one's "customer." Now, one shouldn't do this like a jerk. Gentle comments about the action would get the point across.

yoda57us
10-02-2011, 11:42 AM
I would have gently but forcefully made it clear that I am no one's "customer." Now, one shouldn't do this like a jerk. Gentle comments about the action would get the point across.

LOL, there are two types of dancers. The ones who already understand this and the ones who never will...

BouncerDude
10-02-2011, 08:36 PM
Dude. this is one of the oldest PL gimmicks in existence and savvy dancers see right through it. It is also just pathetic behavior on its face and I have no intention of going through silly antics in a pointless bid to keep the attention of a dancer, nor should any other self-respecting man.

I try to do what I want, when I want. But that does not mean that I always get what I want. Case in point: About two months ago the same fav was finishing up with another guy and went with him when a 2 for 1 was announced. Sitting there quite bored and, of course, with no other girl daring to approach me, I decided to take the initiative and ask another hot young girl for the dances. She gave me the dances, but they were lackluster and, once my fav finished with the other guy and sat down with me, the other girl even came over to apologize - in Russian of course - for dancing with me!

Like it or not, the dancers in many clubs live by a certain code of conduct and are generally careful not to appear as if they are trying to steal other girls' regulars. While we may not like it, especially once we find ourselves slotted into the "regular" category, the alternative for the dancers would be to make the club a cutthroat free for all, so it is understandable from their standpoint.

Rick - It's my choice to pick the dancer - not a PL gimmick. The customer chooses. I have my self-respect. I did not give up my right to choose.

rickdugan
10-02-2011, 08:52 PM
Rick - It's my choice to pick the dancer - not a PL gimmick. The customer chooses. I have my self-respect. I did not give up my right to choose.

Choosing another dancer is not a PL gimmick, but playing the "I'll try to make my fav jealous" game is. See your post below:


I just think a little jealousy could be good for this type of situation. Easily achieved by attention to another dancer. Not too much as to cause serious drama, but just enough to remind each other there is no ownership.

I have no interest in playing around. And of course I could pick another dancer, and indeed did on one occasion, but if I have to chase after them for it because they are trying to avoid me for fear of being viewed as poaching someone else's regular then I am not overly interested.

yoda57us
10-03-2011, 06:35 AM
This confuses me. What with all the girls complaining about piss poor earnings these days... how is it even possible that we have customers complaining that they can't even find anyone willing to take their money?



LOL, it's only confusing to you DD because you are not that type of dancer! It's hard to believe that the sort of cliquish, territorial behavior beng talked about here exists but it definitely does. This is one of the reasons that my favs remain my favs. They enjoy my company and my money when we are together but they place no obligations on me and my wallet or on other dancers in the club when they are busy with other regulars. Bottom line, from my perspective it's all about a level of maturity and self confidence that exists with some dancers but not in others.

JoeUnCool
10-03-2011, 07:02 PM
LOL, it's only confusing to you DD because you are not that type of dancer! It's hard to believe that the sort of cliquish, territorial behavior beng talked about here exists but it definitely does. This is one of the reasons that my favs remain my favs. They enjoy my company and my money when we are together but they place no obligations on me and my wallet or on other dancers in the club when they are busy with other regulars. Bottom line, from my perspective it's all about a level of maturity and self confidence that exists with some dancers but not in others.

Yeah, I've seen this on the dancer side and the customer side. No one belongs to anyone else. Jealousy, both emotional and financial, needs to be left at the door of a club.

flyguy29
10-03-2011, 08:37 PM
i am a big spender but only 3 times a year. The SC GM knows this and intros his best when I arrive, but there is usually only 50% chance I go with of of his. Since the club is always packed, and there is a several month period where I'm away, there is no way girls flock to me unless the GM points me out. I usually like to find the girl on my own but won't approach occupied dancers.

magicrat
10-10-2011, 08:53 AM
I think a lot of this has to do with a downturn in business in the clubs. If there are only a handful of customers there, then if a dancer meets up with one willing to spend a few $$'s, she doesn't want someone else poaching her regular because there aren't a lot of guys she can then turn to.

I was in a larger popular club recently and got a few dances from probably the best looking dancer there. I told her I needed to take a break and that I would like to get more dances from her before I left, but that I understood she needed to make her $. I told her I would be around for awhile and would wait on her. Her response was that she enjoyed hanging out with me and would like to continue to do that unless I was interested in some other dancer. I had just met this dancer that day so I was not a regular by any means. We hung out, had a couple drinks and I got a few more dances from her before I left. I'm not a big spender, but apparently she considered me the best of what was available that particular day. A few years ago in this particular club, she would have moved on to one of the other potential 20-30 customers there, but when there only half a dozen guys in the place the dancers are going to hang on to what they perceive to be a "live one".

KS_Stevia
10-11-2011, 07:50 PM
This confuses me. What with all the girls complaining about piss poor earnings these days... how is it even possible that we have customers complaining that they can't even find anyone willing to take their money?


Regulars are all good and well. But I don't are how long you've been xx's customer. I'm still asking for a dance if I see you alone. ::)
Leaving customers you KNOW always spend money to sit quietly by themselves doesn't make sense to me.

Agreed, what a waste of opportunity. But I think you are similar to me, in that you don't go to work 5 days a week and aren't involved in club drama. But some clubs are so cliquey and the girls are all friends with each other and share a lifetyle, that is becomes some societal microsm that sucks one into a real life soap opera, as I'm sure you know.

My thing was to bounce around a few clubs strategically enough to always be "the new girl" and get new girl money. So I could get away with asking other girls' regulars to dance because even the bitchiest ones didn't have a good memory of me so I don't recall getting into serious ownership issues. But I did see this in lots of clubs where girls became a big part of the "club family."

There is also at least one complete fucking psychopath in many clubs. It doesn't take more than seeing her punch another girl in the face in the dressing room to know that you are to stay clear of anything she comes near.

In my experience with regulars, which is very little...I've felt that "pang of jealousy" when I had to leave for stage and my regular had another girl with him. But I am a courteous person and would wait for them to finish their time and never make drama. But a lot of custies, especially the ones prone to regulardom, seem to really like that drama. Oh well, there is more than one approach to making good money in that profession.

rickdugan
10-26-2011, 04:26 PM
Last night I became a minnow. Just as I was getting settled next to my fav, William (not his real name of course) walked in the door. William is a local artist who has made it big and spends a veritable fortune every time he walks in the door. He hands out Benjamins as stage tips and being selected by him for entertainment is like having a winning daily pick lottery ticket.

As an update...

It seems that William is out of money.

The other night, when I first walked into the club, there were fewer guys than girls as it was a Sunday night. And my fav took off from the guy she was sitting with, who had in fact just bought her a drink, to come over and cozy up. All lights were showing green for an enjoyable night....

...And then I saw William walk up to the bar. At that point, I thought my night was about to go into the toilet. But then I noticed that my fav wasn't moving. Nor, for that matter, was any other girl! When I asked Anne why he was sitting alone, she explained that he had no money to spend.

This is a guy who, for two years, came into the club on a semi-frequent basis and dropped absurd amounts of money during almost every visit. But on both this night and one two nights prior he claimed that he left his wallet at home and tried to convince girls to dance on credit, which of course they did not. However, in consideration for how much he has spent historically, he did manage to scrounge a few drinks from the bartender.

One who did not know better would think that I might have felt some satisfaction from this, but of course that is not the case. I, as I am sure have many other denizens of this blue area, have seen this type of thing too many times in the past to take any joy in it. When the guy has no money, yet cannot help himself and comes to the club looking for credit or comps based upon his past exploits, he is usually in the last stage of freefall. It was depressing to see and reminded me of the pitfalls of clubbing as a primary hobby.

He, and others like him, have been object lessons for me over the years and are the reason why: (1) I have always been careful not too get too wrapped up in any one stripper; and (2) I am careful in setting limits for how much I will spend ITC and OTC on any given trip and in seeking out reasonable ROI. It is not just about the money one has to spend today, but of course how much of it he wants to keep for tomorrow.

I have seen a lot of bustouts over time, but it has been several years since I have seen one of that magnitude.

Caveat emptor. ;)

KS_Stevia
10-30-2011, 05:59 PM
That's really sad, and I've seen it too, way too often. And this is just the beginning for William. These guys will continue to wear out their welcome for a long, long time trying to relive the glory days. If they have enough money for a drink, they will stay the entire night. Its sad like that old dog at the pound that you know no one will adopt, except that it isn't the dog's fault he's in the pound so William is a pathetic kind of sad.

yoda57us
10-31-2011, 02:02 PM
Well, the bigger they are, the harder they fall....

This guy's crash and burn is one of the reasons I've always been content to be a medium spender in the clubs. My favs know that I'm consistent. They also know that I'm not going to be in every single week so my phone doesn't get flooded with text messages from dancers wanting me to come in and make their nights.

A couple of years ago when I was not in good financial shape do to splitting with my ex just as the economy was tanking I had to cut back my clubbing for five or six months. More than one reg told me I was welcome to stop by anyway just to say hello and promised me that they would not pressure me for dances. I rarely followed up since it really does bug me to be in the club when I have no bankroll. Still, I appreciated the invitations. I'd much rather be the nice guy who spends a few bucks than the high roller who becomes the butt of jokes and disdain when his cash runs out...

ChilledCustomer
11-01-2011, 07:07 AM
I agree with Rickdugan. Getting in a spending competition for the affections of a dancer who actually doesn't give a shit about you is really stupid.

JoeUnCool
11-01-2011, 07:12 AM
A couple of years ago when I was not in good financial shape do to splitting with my ex just as the economy was tanking I had to cut back my clubbing for five or six months. More than one reg told me I was welcome to stop by anyway just to say hello and promised me that they would not pressure me for dances. I rarely followed up since it really does bug me to be in the club when I have no bankroll. Still, I appreciated the invitations. I'd much rather be the nice guy who spends a few bucks than the high roller who becomes the butt of jokes and disdain when his cash runs out...

Ture, true. Its interesting that you bring this up. Over the past couple of years, my income has been down (thankfully, i'm headed back up due to some new clients over the past couple of months). As a result, I've kinda lost interest in going to the clubs. I haven't been broke, nor would you see me as the guy that comes in and nurses the water bottle for 6 hours while not tipping. I've just decided to not come in unless I had some money to spend. I remember last year being in Atl and at the PP. My fave there asked why I hadn't been in and I told her. She said that she would rather I come in, sit and talk with her, than her talk to some bozo (her words) and her make money off of some guy she didn't like. She also said that I didn't have to pay her the full amount for VIP, and all other kinds of stuff. I was shocked. She is one of their model types that could command nearly any price she wanted for vip as well as being pretty well known as a girl that does NOT do OTC for any price saying that money wasn't that important to her. I was surprised to say the least. The invitation was appreciated. IIRC, on that last trip, we didn't do VIP and I still slipped her full VIP money. I haven't been in to see her since that night last fall inspire of being in Atl several times since then. As a corollary to one of the rules, if you don't want to possibly spend the money, don't go.

Out of all of this, it is good to see that not everyone only cares about the money. Now, back to my capitalistic ways. }:D

rickdugan
11-01-2011, 08:54 PM
I agree with Rickdugan. Getting in a spending competition for the affections of a dancer who actually doesn't give a shit about you is really stupid.

But that is where our common views end. You are content with sitting at a club and simply staring at titties all night while I am not. You are perfectly ok with watching the girls dance "for free" (your words) while I tip a number of girls over the course of a given night.

You believe that you have a great system because you hang out at a strip club and watch naked girls on the cheap as an appetizer before paying a cheap prostitute to finish you off. Well, when I am paying for sex it is with the girl that was dancing for me on the stage earlier that night. And while I might not get her back to my hotel room for the cost of two lapdances, which is apparently your measuring stick, the girl that I am playing with that night was not running 15 minute specials for 10+ guys before me.

Oh, and welcome to blue. ;)

wall
11-26-2011, 01:50 PM
I was in Maryland last week and checked-out a new club for the first time in about a year. It was an interesting feeling being in a club where absolutely no dancers had any expectation of income from me...

Gold Club had a really good run for a while where they had a pretty deep bench of hot dancers on days and nights. If you're an unfamiliar face GGC's probably the better bet between it and Players Club. Plus there's no cover during the day and the Wheel's something north of $20 to get into nowadays. Don't really get to Baltimore much anymore, though so it might've changed.

Even in clubs where I was accused of being a regular, I tried to have at least two girls that had sit and chat status. Doesn't always work out, but that's why I still tip so I can let another dancer know it's cool to drop by if I end up mysteriously alone. Once I become the keeper of the money or the purse while the gal who's claimed me is on stage, then I know it's time to move on. That's a roundabout way of saying I'm all for being an unknown every time I walk in a club.

It's also interesting to see someone who could have passed for a statue suddenly spring to life and talk with or flash money at a dancer I've given attention to. Since I've probably been sitting there for a little while getting a feel for a first seen club, it's great to have a dancer some stiff has been ignoring suddenly become his amontillado. To me getting outbid is doing me a favor. It's less money I need to spend for a dancer who is either flush with cash or glad to be away from a creep when she comes back.