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Snowy0Star
02-12-2013, 10:38 AM
I dont know for sure but i would go with the assumtion that all cam sites do this just on what scale differs from site to site.
MissSassyPickles
02-12-2013, 03:16 PM
@limecoconut - It would say in your contract.
Cosima
02-13-2013, 10:57 AM
i don't even know how to do privates on there. i usually just get paid tokens and do them over skype.
vivianbear
02-17-2013, 06:32 PM
*Bump*
I'm checking in with this thread because I'm looking for a steady, side-gig site and I've done slow sites with hourly pay. That's really what I'm looking for, these days. Is there anything super-recent about Cam4 that I should know before I go through their signup process? Also, is this a US-based site (I'm a US model) and can I get checks sent to me? Thanks, ladies, for any new info! :)
mimiboo69
02-17-2013, 09:20 PM
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vivianbear
02-18-2013, 11:40 PM
I just emailed Cam4 and got this message back:
I'm afraid I'm unsure of what you are referring to. We do not pay models - other than Super Shows. Models sign up for an account and request tips.
Thanks
Brin
Cam4 Performer Support & Marketing
Do I have the right site? What's a link to the one paying hourly? Can somebody help me out, plz? Kthx.
laurielegs
02-20-2013, 03:14 PM
I'm not sure they are really offering that promotion. I worked 7 hours ( made $10 from a show - horrible site so far) and they said I would be paid for the time I put in. It's a week later and no $. I'm really disappointed.
vivianbear
02-20-2013, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure they are really offering that promotion. I worked 7 hours ( made $10 from a show - horrible site so far) and they said I would be paid for the time I put in. It's a week later and no $. I'm really disappointed.
Do you have anything in writing that says they're paying, per hour? They contacted me pretty quickly, to debunk this so I'm wonder who has any tangible information (emails, promo mailers) that they ever were offering it. I'll stay in touch with the site contact to glean more info, that way, too.
laurielegs
02-20-2013, 05:17 PM
Do you have anything in writing that says they're paying, per hour? They contacted me pretty quickly, to debunk this so I'm wonder who has any tangible information (emails, promo mailers) that they ever were offering it. I'll stay in touch with the site contact to glean more info, that way, too.
No, I didn't think to save the chat log.
I should have, argh! I am way too trusting.
vivianbear
02-20-2013, 05:33 PM
Well, until I can confirm that they have ever offered it and are good to pay out, I think I'll pass. Thanks, tho. :/
CummingCouple
02-20-2013, 05:46 PM
Do you know if they sell your privates or use your cam as promo all over the net?
No, I'm not sure of that but I do know that if you're well liked, you are likely recorded illegally and put up on anonib. There's a famous capper who posts on there... They have a cam 4 board, even. We quit cam4 because of this.
CummingCouple
02-20-2013, 05:46 PM
Do you know if they sell your privates or use your cam as promo all over the net?
No, I'm not sure of that but I do know that if you're well liked, you are likely recorded illegally and put up on anonib. There's a famous capper who posts on there... They have a cam 4 board, even. We quit cam4 because of this.
Cosima
02-21-2013, 09:41 AM
the site is only tip based guys.
DarlaSummers
02-21-2013, 10:48 AM
I have an email in writing, stating that for my first 100 hours worked, I'd be paid $10 per hour, including how it would be paid (in the form of "tips" at the end of the work week). I worked thirty hours and did get paid $30 for that, but haven't gone on since. If they've stopped doing that, there's no point to that site for me.
laurielegs
02-21-2013, 10:57 AM
I have an email in writing, stating that for my first 100 hours worked, I'd be paid $10 per hour, including how it would be paid (in the form of "tips" at the end of the work week). I worked thirty hours and did get paid $30 for that, but haven't gone on since. If they've stopped doing that, there's no point to that site for me.
Did you mean 300?
I checked again today and they have not added any money for the time I worked for them (7 hours of losers begging for freebies - yuk) and also didn't answer my email asking why they never paid.
vivianbear
02-21-2013, 11:01 AM
^^
Awesome. Do you mean 30 hrs = $300? How long ago was that? Do you mind PMing me or forwarding it to me? We can always blur out your info but I'd like to reference something to get a clear response from the site. I want to find out one way or another if they're still offering it. Thanks!
DarlaSummers
02-21-2013, 12:26 PM
Here are snippets of the email, I had talked to Adriana.
Cam4 is one of the most visited webcam sites on the internet. Like I said, we are offering new female models $10.00 an hour for the first 100 hours of performances. Of course, you will also be able to make tips from viewers. All of your earnings will go directly to you; we do not take a percentage.
And then when asked how the bonus would be paid & when:
Once you are verified I will make you a gold member so you can do private performances, and we will start tracking your hours. We will pay out the $10.00 an hour bonus weekly. We usually pay bonus’ on Tuesday’s. We will pay you for the hours you have worked that week, the extra minutes will carry over the next week. Your bonus will appear in your cam4 account which can be viewed by logging in to www.cam4bucks.com. Your bonus will appear as tips.
laurielegs
02-25-2013, 04:48 AM
I emailed that Adriana that had been spamming that offer on Yahoo and she said she would check into why I hadn't got paid what I was promised.
No answer so far and it's been two weeks since I signed up there and broadcasted with no sign of any hourly pay added to my account.
My guess is they must have an affiliate program going on so she spams camgirls and gets them to sign up and promises them hourly pay, then disappears.
I'm pissed off at the time I wasted on that crappy site. Should have known better.
Kim - Cam4
02-25-2013, 10:57 AM
Allow me to introduce myself, my name is Kim and I'm the Customer Support Manager at Cam4.com. Thank you to Vivian for bringing all of this to our attention.
Adriana does work for Cam4 and recruits models and would be happy to address any questions you may have with regards to working under the program she is offering. You can reach her at:
[email protected]
If you have other questions or problems I would be happy to help you. I will check back here or you are free to email me at
[email protected]
Have a great week!
Kim
Cam4
sophiesecrets
02-25-2013, 05:22 PM
I work on cam4 and cam4bucks is a seperate website where u handle ur earnings. all my contact emails end in cam4.com or .biz. for girls it can b slow but if u get afew regulars they will always hit ur goal. im doing the 10./ hour right now, and i worked 3 hours last week at uit hit my account in tokens so i can at least testify to that. im shavedsophie on cam4 if u wana look me up. its terribly slow for me, having just started there again after 6 months or so, but i made 100$ working very few hours so theres hope at least, 6 months ago i could get 2000 in my room easy, now im lucky if i have 30. im going to do the 100 hours and see if i can get my customer base back up. ill let u guys know how it goes! happy i found this site!
laurielegs
02-26-2013, 12:54 PM
OK finally today I received payment after emailing
[email protected] so it is not a scam. I'm not too pleased at having to chase down the money. Am hoping it won't be that difficult to be paid in the future.
The site is super slow. There are hosts giving away everything for free or pennies and whenever I do get tips these guys think a dollar is actually a lot for a tip, lol. I have hundreds of viewers and no tippers most of the time.
I'm going to give it a try for a while longer and see if I can build up a customer base.
I'm shocked that the huge traffic doesn't translate to more money there so I'm hoping that if a few more hosts will join and qualify for the hourly pay it will improve the quality of the traffic. It's hard for me to understand why some of these hosts set goals for as little as $10, sit threre teasing guys naked for an hour and then do a full xxx show for ten bucks! It's sad.
Kim - Cam4
02-26-2013, 02:59 PM
Laurie,
Upon checking I find that you requested a Payoneer payment yesterday after payments had already been processed for that day. That means the payment was processed on the next business day which was today. We pay out Monday to Friday, excluding Holidays, while other websites only pay weekly, bi-weekly or monthly. Due to the volume of people we pay per day payments are processed in batches and not individually.
We do not require performers to request tips, those doing free shows do draw traffic to the website that benefits everyone. While it may be hard to understand why a girl would do a public show for $10.00 she makes out quite well with her private/group shows using her public shows as a way of advertising.
Kim
laurielegs
02-26-2013, 04:07 PM
Thanks Kim.
I really appreciate the info.
vivianbear
02-26-2013, 05:46 PM
We do not require performers to request tips, those doing free shows do draw traffic to the website that benefits everyone. While it may be hard to understand why a girl would do a public show for $10.00 she makes out quite well with her private/group shows using her public shows as a way of advertising.
Kim
Hi, Kim!
Can you talk specifically about the $10/hr bonuses/stipend? Why was I told it doesn't exist? How exactly does it work? I'd like to sign up but there's a lot of different info that I'm receiving and your responses haven't addressed this specific part of your site. I'd love to sign up but I need more info, to clarify.
Kim - Cam4
02-26-2013, 07:42 PM
Hello Vivian - it's a pleasure to meet you!
This program wouldn't be something Support would be involved with. What I can do is if you send me your email address I can pass that on to Adriana and have her get in touch with you directly so she can answer any questions you may have.
Kim
vivianbear
02-26-2013, 09:20 PM
Hello Vivian - it's a pleasure to meet you!
This program wouldn't be something Support would be involved with. What I can do is if you send me your email address I can pass that on to Adriana and have her get in touch with you directly so she can answer any questions you may have.
Kim
With all due respect, Kim, the entire reason I contacted the site personally was because reading this whole thread made me somewhat suspicious of Adriana and her abilities to clearly communicate about the program to models, in a timely manner. In all honesty, I was trying to go over her head and find a more authoritative contact, to the site in general. If you're "Support", why don't you have any pertinent information about this program? Why was I specifically told in my email that it doesn't exist? I'm interested in more transparency about the program because it sounds like different models are told different things and seeing different results based on how much noise they make, to get it. What division is Adriana in, exactly and how do you relate to that? How does "Brin", the person who responded to my original email, fit into this?
I hope you understand that transparency is very important to me. If I'm putting in hours of work on your site, I need to know who I'm dealing with and how accountable the Admins will be with me in the instance that my payments are late or not reflected in my earnings, as I expect them to be (both have happened to other models). Are you saying Adriana is fully responsible for this information? I appreciate your making yourself available on this forum but I'd still like some clarification.
sophiesecrets
02-26-2013, 09:56 PM
I did pretty good at cam4 today even tho ive been gone 6 months... had to stay on a while but thats ok since the 10/hour promotion thing, least it gives me an excuse. i think theres hope there =) i just do 20$ shows (200 tokens) i got 3 in a row in under an hour then got several skype pvts for tokens as well. and i can report that i got my hours paid in tokens, without a single email, so /cheers cam4!
Kim - Cam4
02-26-2013, 10:08 PM
Vivian,
I can see your confusion. Adriana works in Recruitment. Brin is one of the Sites support team and would not be aware of special promotions Recruiting may have running as they differ by market. I cannot really comment on something someone was told without knowing the specifics.
As for myself, I am the Customer Support Manager and Brin reports to me. I deal with issues escalated to me by the Support Team and that can range anywhere from payment questions to site problems as well as help moderate our own Performers Forum. Recruitment is not something I do or am involved with but I will do my best to answer your questions.
Under the program being discussed in this thread - new female models who are signed up receive a free gold membership so they can do private shows within the site and would be paid $10.00 an hour for the first 100 hours of performance along with any tips received during those performances. All funds are paid out in US dollars and we pay by check, wire or Payoneer and will be adding some additional payment options in the coming months. Payments are made Monday to Friday (excluding Holidays). The only limitation is a minimum of $50.00 per payment request.
To address one of the questions I just caught -
We do not record models shows nor are the chats logged. If we are running a special promotion in our blogs/twitter we will contact a model to ask if it's ok to use their image before doing so.
If I missed any other questions please feel free to ask them again.
Kim
laurielegs
02-27-2013, 11:04 AM
I did pretty good at cam4 today even tho ive been gone 6 months... had to stay on a while but thats ok since the 10/hour promotion thing, least it gives me an excuse. i think theres hope there =) i just do 20$ shows (200 tokens) i got 3 in a row in under an hour then got several skype pvts for tokens as well. and i can report that i got my hours paid in tokens, without a single email, so /cheers cam4!
Sophie, I was told that my hours would be credited on Tuesdays. Are yours automatically being credited on Tuesday?
I finally got mine showing on Monday after waiting 2 weeks and emailing over and over, but now it's Wednesday and the time that I worked since then isn't there. :(
It's really discouraging to me that it's not showing up.
sophiesecrets
02-27-2013, 11:08 AM
Sophie, I was told that my hours would be credited on Tuesdays. Are yours automatically being credited on Tuesday?
I finally got mine showing on Monday after waiting 2 weeks and emailing over and over, but now it's Wednesday and the time that I worked since then isn't there. :(
It's really discouraging to me that it's not showing up.
ya thats when mine got credited. its confusing tho. wish there was a log of hours worked or some kind of ui where i can see how much i made and when it will be deposited. sometimes i lose track of my tips
laurielegs
02-27-2013, 11:15 AM
ya thats when mine got credited. its confusing tho. wish there was a log of hours worked or some kind of ui where i can see how much i made and when it will be deposited. sometimes i lose track of my tips
Damn. They are not crediting me!!
Yeah I do wish the hours worked would show. I was told to look on cam4bucks for my hours but where? There is nothing there that I can find to show my total hours worked so I've been trying to keep track of it on my own.
I will try emailing Kim. I wonder why I'm having to chase them to get my hours credited.
Kim - Cam4
02-27-2013, 11:25 AM
Laurie,
If you log into your cam4bucks.com account and click REPORTS > EARNINGS REPORT > click on the big PLUS sign - this drops down your earnings for that day in more detail. I'm showing your bonus is there and the amount would be for the number of hours worked times the rate.
laurielegs
02-27-2013, 11:31 AM
Laurie,
If you log into your cam4bucks.com account and click REPORTS > EARNINGS REPORT > click on the big PLUS sign - this drops down your earnings for that day in more detail. I'm showing your bonus is there and the amount would be for the number of hours worked times the rate.
The bonus is there for up until Monday but I don't see anything for hours worked since then. Is there no way for me to see my hours worked?
Some sessions I didn't get a tip and there is nothing to indicate the time I was online so I have no way to see how long it was in the records.
Kim - Cam4
02-27-2013, 11:40 AM
Laurie,
I'm looking into the issue right now with Accounting. I will update you as soon as I have more information.
Kim
sophiesecrets
02-27-2013, 12:00 PM
Ya thats a little odd. i cant find it on cam4bucks, i just noticed i had like 40$ more dollars than i made, its an assumption, i certainly didnt see anything that told me that 40$ was my hours worked. Kim will help u tho, ive had quite afew dealings with her. Ive gotten keyloggers and had some issues with scammers, (back when i was really noob, cam4 was the 1st site i ever worked) sux ur having to chase em down, maybe after they get u credited it'll be more routine in the future. good thing about cam4 is they pay out 5 days a week. y i keep ending back up there lol, hard for me to wait 2 weeks <3
laurielegs
02-27-2013, 12:11 PM
Laurie,
I'm looking into the issue right now with Accounting. I will update you as soon as I have more information.
Kim
Maybe this will help you sort it out.
8 days ago on Tuesday February 19 I received a reply from Adriana about my hours when I asked why I wasn't paid and she gave me my total at that time:
"In total you have worked 7.11 hours, we have credited your cam4 account for 7 of these hours, the .11 will carry over to your next week's bonus."
These 7 hours are all I was credited and I didn't see them showing until they were added on Monday the 25th. The time that was worked since the 19th was not paid or showing in my account.
I also have worked some more hours since then that are not showing. Unfortunately I can not see how many since the software does not seem to show our hours on the cam4bucks site (or if it does I can not locate where). I know for sure there are hours worked after the 19th because I have tips and I did log in for several hours several different days.
Perhaps you can tell me how many and why they are not credited.
Thanks so much for checking into this for me.
Kim - Cam4
02-27-2013, 02:32 PM
Laurie,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I found out that the hours have been sent off to Adriana to approve and they should appear in your account tomorrow. I believe from this point forward everything should go more smoothly. This is not the norm for Cam4 or payments.
As for the software; the current design only registers time online when tips are received. We are in the process of revamping several reports, earnings included, that will give you more information as well as ease of use.
Kim
laurielegs
02-27-2013, 03:18 PM
Thank you so much!
I do like the site features so far.
I believe cam4 is the only site that allows a countdown and tip goal with a timer, which is really unique.
Kim - Cam4
02-27-2013, 03:24 PM
You're more than welcome! I'm glad to hear you like the goal/timer; we are always adding new features and give our models the ability to have some input through our Performers Forum. The gifts are fairly new and have been a huge hit with both tippers and models. Some models requests gifts only, which do have a token value, rather than tokens as they enjoy seeing the gift on their profile walls.
Kim
MissSassyPickles
02-28-2013, 03:24 AM
Sorry I hadn't replied to this thread earlier!
Vivian - someone else mentioned the 10/hr promotion and then I mentioned it a few times so I'm not sure if you were thinking about me.
I've signed up and gotten verified but have yet to log in past that initial 15 minutes.
Adriana was nice but I think she was busy because she confused me with someone else when I was signing up.
I had emailed asking why I hadn't had Gold status yet and have yet to get a response.
Will update.
Kim - Cam4
02-28-2013, 06:32 AM
Good morning MissSassy -
Can you tell me what your user name is so I can look into this? If you do not wish to do so on the boards you are welcome to email me privately.
Kim
Kim - Cam4
02-28-2013, 11:06 AM
Laurie - I believe you should now be able to see your bonus in your Cam4bucks earning report.
MisSassy - I believe I found you and you should now see that the account is gold. If there is still an issue please don't hesitate to let me know.
Thanks,
Kim
laurielegs
02-28-2013, 01:41 PM
Laurie - I believe you should now be able to see your bonus in your Cam4bucks earning report.
It's there! thanks so much.
sophiesecrets
02-28-2013, 01:51 PM
You're more than welcome! I'm glad to hear you like the goal/timer; we are always adding new features and give our models the ability to have some input through our Performers Forum. The gifts are fairly new and have been a huge hit with both tippers and models. Some models requests gifts only, which do have a token value, rather than tokens as they enjoy seeing the gift on their profile walls.
Kim
I also like the gifts but i havent gotten one yet. i need to read more about their values, feel noob lol
Kim - Cam4
02-28-2013, 02:00 PM
You're welcome Laurie!
Sophie - http://blog.cam4.com/2012/11/introducing-cam4-gifting/ That will explain it to you and the values you can find in the marketplace. http://www.cam4.com/shavedsophie/marketplace
Hope that helps!
Kim
AshleyRed
03-05-2013, 06:15 PM
I've applied for Cam4 and visited there but didn't like the environment... I guess I wasn't the only one! It's so weird, you actually are on a show that you would only to pvt in LJ, for example... for any freeloaders to see? It they can see everything for free why do they tip? Why is there a rank for the highest tipper, does he get anything good later? Because he has seen everything already, right? I'm kinda new at camming and I see no point at Cam4. If someone can enlight my confused mind I would be really grateful =P
sophiesecrets
03-05-2013, 06:36 PM
u have a point. i work there becuz i have a small fan-base that will usually always tip, i like other sites too tho. If you dont like showing off for the freeloaders, when u reach ur goal u can start a private room and only give your tippers the password. But alot of girls do it for the exposure. Ive had close to 3000 guys in my room, i kno some girls can boast more. but cam4 lets u put ur contact info up, like twitter, so for the girls that use stuff like mylikes (a site that pays u per clik of links u post in twitter) it can pay off.
AshleyRed
03-05-2013, 07:54 PM
Sophie, thank you so much! You've really helped me here. I guess 4Cam is not for me then: I don't want the exposure at all! I have a business, I have a conservative family... I'm not naive to think something like "nah, they won't find out", I'm prepared to anyone to discover. But they surely won't find out with my help. I even find some hope in my heart to think they never will (but my husband who knows it, no one else knows so far).
I'm not ashamed of doing that, but I'm not a good criticism handler and I'm not ready for the harsh and mean talk people will point me when they find out. The stigma is so strong, much more here in my country. But I'll keep working my ass off and show my face just fine. I just blocked my country in every single site I work. Not bullet-proof, but it will make harder for someone to find out.
sophiesecrets
03-06-2013, 01:12 PM
=D U may try some other sites that are private based. like streamate. i think girls there can just wait on pvts. good luck!! i used to worry about people i know seeing me, but i like the xtra money more than people i rarely talk to anyway, but i dont own a business or do PTA meetings so i can see your side of it!
MissSassyPickles
03-06-2013, 06:15 PM
Just wanted to say thanks Kim for helping me out!
I haven't been on Cam4 since I first registered be will go on tonight now that I have gold status. Will report back.