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Kim - Cam4
01-18-2014, 08:17 PM
Jac -
It's not permitting me to send you another private mail for some reason, would you mind emailing me - thanks!
justanothercamgirl
01-18-2014, 08:27 PM
Jac -
It's not permitting me to send you another private mail for some reason, would you mind emailing me - thanks!
That is so strange! Sorry about that Kim! I will PM you right away. :)
shyoncam
01-19-2014, 11:18 AM
Kim I wrote you again plz check your email. I'm waiting a long time for those bonus hours and I need to cash out.
Kim - Cam4
01-19-2014, 11:28 AM
I responded to your email just as soon as I received it.
LadyC
01-19-2014, 11:33 AM
Kim, hi sweetie! I never did get a response from you either.
BTW, I have been camming for a bit on your site and I have to say I really love it there. I do have a question. Is there any plan in the future to allow models to upload videos or pic sets to sell? I feel like that's pretty much the only thing missing from your site, besides that I really like it.
Kim - Cam4
01-19-2014, 11:35 AM
Would you mind mailing me again LadyC? I'll let you know here as soon as I respond because if there is an issue with mail going out I would like to know that.
As for your question, yes, I believe that is in the works hon but I don't have a definite ETA for it going live. Have you set up your profile to sell them for tokens there?
Kim can you confirm if we can link to our clips4sale on our profile.
Kim - Cam4
01-19-2014, 11:45 AM
Hello Rina.. yes, for now you can
shyoncam
01-19-2014, 01:20 PM
Kim maybe there is a problem cause I dont see anything from you in my email. Can you pm me? I just want to know when the hours will be credited from january 6th? Or if its not gonna be posted till mid week then I want to know that too because then I will cash out my check now and let that money roll over to the next check.
Kim - Cam4
01-19-2014, 01:27 PM
For the time you requested in your email to me, there were no hours that's why none were posted. I checked that against the screen caps and its correct.
shyoncam
01-19-2014, 06:52 PM
How could there be no hours when the earnings report shows that I earned tips on that day? I couldn't have earned tips if I wasn't logged onto the site.
Kim - Cam4
01-19-2014, 07:06 PM
On the 6th you did hon, but remember the dates you gave to me, it does not include the 6th as that would be on the following week.
shyoncam
01-19-2014, 07:34 PM
There must be a mix up. Maybe you are looking at a different email then the one I sent cause I just asked about that one day on january the 6th. I pm'd you my account name.
LadyC
01-19-2014, 07:54 PM
"As for your question, yes, I believe that is in the works hon but I don't have a definite ETA for it going live. Have you set up your profile to sell them for tokens there?"
Wait, we can do this? I know we can set up photo galleries but know nothing about setting them up for tips. How would one set that up in a profile?
Kim - Cam4
01-19-2014, 11:12 PM
LadyC.. I responded to your email.
Shy - I responded to your private message here.
And yes, LadyC.. try viewing these profiles so you can see how they have them set up:
http://www.cam4.com/chemicalgirl
http://www.cam4.com/girlnextdoor69
They have videos for sale in their profiles.
justanothercamgirl
01-20-2014, 07:28 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a way to change your video/microphone settings while you are not actively broadcasting?
Edited to add: Figured this part out on my own at least.
justanothercamgirl
01-20-2014, 09:30 AM
I am so confused!!!
I just got this error.
Attention! There were problems with the photo identification you submitted.
First ID: You do not have enough live broadcasts - live broadcasts are one of the requirements for approval but it is not needed to go on cam. Broadcast, request tips and then return here and upload your ID again.
Second ID: You do not have enough live broadcasts - live broadcasts are one of the requirements for approval but it is not needed to go on cam. Broadcast, request tips and then return here and upload your ID again.
My brain has not been working so well lately, could someone please explain to me what stupid mistake I made this time? :/
I think you broadcast then upload ID or something like that. I remember getting that same error. I believe they look at a screen shot from the broadcast and then at your id to make sure you are the same person. I think.
redridinghood
01-20-2014, 12:29 PM
Maybe this has to do with kim/admin changing your account setting to "Gold" status? I know for mine, I didn't try to upload or do anything until they emailed me confirming that Gold status and the promotion were both now active on my account. Hm...
Kim - Cam4
01-20-2014, 07:07 PM
Poor Jac... The approval team cannot approve an ID before there is a broadcast. They need to be sure that the ID they are approving is the person who is actually on cam. You'd be surprised how many attempt to do otherwise.
justanothercamgirl
01-20-2014, 09:54 PM
Poor Jac... The approval team cannot approve an ID before there is a broadcast. They need to be sure that the ID they are approving is the person who is actually on cam. You'd be surprised how many attempt to do otherwise.
I hate to ask a stupid question but if you aren't supposed to upload your ID till after you have broadcasted for a certain amount of time then shouldn't the place where you update you ID on the website be grayed out until the person has broadcasted for the amount of time that is required??
If the database is giving back an error anyway that the person has updated their ID and shouldn't have done it before they have broadcasted for whatever the minimum amount of time needed then it should be easy enough to change the code to gray out or lock down the id update part in order to avoid confusion.
Hopefully this suggestion is not offensive, it is the ex-computer tech in me that causes me to wonder such things when it comes to accessibility and useability in websites.
Kim - Cam4
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
No offense, and I totally understand. The issue is the human side of things. Most people think that if they turn on the cam and shoot the wall that it means they have broadcast live and the indicator at the website will change from not having broadcast to broadcast. It's people's interpretation of what a 'live' broadcast means and unfortunately I don't believe you can get the coding to understand the difference. We are working to improve this though so I do appreciate your suggestion.
justanothercamgirl
01-21-2014, 08:47 AM
No offense, and I totally understand. The issue is the human side of things. Most people think that if they turn on the cam and shoot the wall that it means they have broadcast live and the indicator at the website will change from not having broadcast to broadcast. It's people's interpretation of what a 'live' broadcast means and unfortunately I don't believe you can get the coding to understand the difference. We are working to improve this though so I do appreciate your suggestion.
Okay, I am totally confused! I do know that my brain runs slower then others and confusion is my natural state but I was just hoping you could clarify something for me. ;D
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As you can see it says that Step 1 is to upload our ID before we broadcast and Step 3 is to actually broadcast. But the error I got says that I am supposed to upload my ID after I have broadcasted. You do not have enough live broadcasts - live broadcasts are one of the requirements for approval but it is not needed to go on cam. Broadcast, request tips and then return here and upload your ID again.
So this is the part where I become totally confused. Why would Step 1 be to upload your ID (which is the very first step in the sequence) when you need to broadcast before uploading it? :O
Kim - Cam4
01-21-2014, 08:51 AM
Jac - I believe when I messaged you I told you to broadcast first and then upload your documentation. As for the screen cap you provided, we are in the process of revamping this because it is confusing to people.
justanothercamgirl
01-21-2014, 08:55 AM
Jac - I believe when I messaged you I told you to broadcast first and then upload your documentation. As for the screen cap you provided, we are in the process of revamping this because it is confusing to people.
You did! Embarrassingly, because my memory is iffy at best (think the movie Memento) I had actually completely forgotten what you told me and just followed what was screen capped.
I am so happy to know that I am not taking crazy pills and it was actually confusing and I wasn't just messing up somewhere. I have a tendency to mess up a lot when it comes to stuff like that. :-[
Lucky for me camming only requires short-term memory and we are allowed to take notes! ;D
Kim - Cam4
01-21-2014, 08:56 AM
*laughs*.. no worries, trust me, I have my days as well.. more than I'd like actually.
justanothercamgirl
01-21-2014, 08:59 AM
*laughs*.. no worries, trust me, I have my days as well.. more than I'd like actually.
For what it is worth, I admire the heck out of you and your ability to always be on top of things here.
From where I am standing you appear to always be on the ball.
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Kim - Cam4
01-21-2014, 09:07 AM
Thank you, Jac.. I do appreciate that and always do my best.
justanothercamgirl
01-21-2014, 01:47 PM
Wow, that was different today. I set my chat to people who have tokens only and I didn't here anyone speak for 30 minutes!
I had it set for anyone before this and the people demanding stuff was crazytown! I understand it used to be a 'free for all' site before so I don't hold it against them though.
shyoncam
01-21-2014, 02:51 PM
Kim I have a question, sorry if this was asked before, but do we still get the hourly bonus during couples show or is it just while we're in solo chat?
JAC I rarely use the filter because sometimes I have guys buy tokens to tip me while I'm camming I don't let beggars bother me. I just ban.
redridinghood
01-21-2014, 06:35 PM
Oh man JAC that's what I'd been thinking too. What a holy-lot-of-difference it makes. I ws just thinking earlier that this thread in comparison to a lot of cam-site specific ones, is fairly quiet in the way of ladies talking about the experience of the site itself.
Interesting enough, I think I'm finally starting to figure out a little better how things work on Cam4 - like with how customers decide to spend their money and what draws them in about this site in particular. I think the whole "voyeur" aspect is so large here that it was strange to get used to at first - actually, i'm still not quite there.
What's your experience like? Anyone? lol - let's liven up the Cam4 SW girls. ;)
Wow, that was different today. I set my chat to people who have tokens only and I didn't here anyone speak for 30 minutes!
I had it set for anyone before this and the people demanding stuff was crazytown! I understand it used to be a 'free for all' site before so I don't hold it against them though.
Kim - Cam4
01-21-2014, 07:01 PM
Hello Shy... as long as it's under the account that Adriana has added to the program you should not have an issue. If you created a secondary account then that would not count toward the hours.
justanothercamgirl
01-21-2014, 07:09 PM
JAC I rarely use the filter because sometimes I have guys buy tokens to tip me while I'm camming I don't let beggars bother me. I just ban.
I actually haven't even figured out how to ban there yet!
I guess that is next on my Cam4 list. :D
I actually haven't even figured out how to ban there yet!
I guess that is next on my Cam4 list. :D
You click the offender then click moderator options then you'll see the ban option :)
justanothercamgirl
01-21-2014, 11:06 PM
What's your experience like? Anyone? lol - let's liven up the Cam4 SW girls. ;)
Well, I can tell you that I already hate the ratings system. As far as I can tell, anyone can rate you -- not just people who tip you.
I have two stars right now.
I always forget to check my stars. It's okay so far. I'm not super consistent there, but I can get tips for chatting, watching cams, and occasionally dancing when I'm in the mood. I've had one private though. Everyone wants Skype and I can't be bothered to log out of my room, anymore.
justanothercamgirl
01-22-2014, 06:48 AM
I always forget to check my stars. It's okay so far. I'm not super consistent there, but I can get tips for chatting, watching cams and occasionally dancing when I'm in the mood. I've had one private though. Everyone wants Skype and I can't be bothered to log out of my room, anymore.
How much do you ask for watching cams? I have no idea what on earth to charge!
justanothercamgirl
01-22-2014, 06:50 AM
You click the offender then click moderator options then you'll see the ban option :)
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CurvyWinona
01-22-2014, 09:04 AM
JAC, I only had few tips. total about 250 tokens so far. on this site. :( no one wanna tip for a twirl. so unlike streamate. i do not know how to survive on that site without stretching my vag and take a drink of my piss. i refuse to go down that road. i even offered my videos for measley 20 tokens and no takers.. for the same videos i could get 10 gold each on SM.
I do not think guys will ever learn to tip unless the site bans free shows.
How much do you ask for watching cams? I have no idea what on earth to charge!
Between 10-50 tokens depending on my mood. I'll say 10 then if the guy is boring whatever I make them tip me more. LOL I also let them know I'll just be glancing at the cam and not giving them my full attention.
JAC, I only had few tips. total about 250 tokens so far. on this site. :( no one wanna tip for a twirl. so unlike streamate. i do not know how to survive on that site without stretching my vag and take a drink of my piss. i refuse to go down that road. i even offered my videos for measley 20 tokens and no takers.. for the same videos i could get 10 gold each on SM.
I do not think guys will ever learn to tip unless the site bans free shows.
I usually log on when I don't feel like other sites. I find on cam4 I can get tips for just sitting and talking and being the bitch I am. Again I am not at all consistent there. I'm never on the front page because I don't do public nudity. I'm not banking but it's good for days when I am not up ImLive or Niteflirt.
There are a lot of cheap vid offers there but don't cave into that, sell your vids for at least 50 tokens, they will sell.
I don't think free shows are so much an issues on a tipping site, guys tip on MFC, but I think the issue is Cam4 used to be totally free and they are still getting used to tipping. I also think guys want to spend time with you so I let them know that tips keep me online that helps.
Not making bank but for the small effort I am giving it I find the money okay.
justanothercamgirl
01-22-2014, 02:26 PM
I don't think free shows are so much an issues on a tipping site, guys tip on MFC, but I think the issue is Cam4 used to be totally free and they are still getting used to tipping. I also think guys want to spend time with you so I let them know that tips keep me online that helps.
I must admit that I was surprised that they didn't set up a subdomain for their new 'tipping instead of free plan'. *shrugs*
I would of done privates.cam4.com or something so that way the people who want and expect free can still have it at cam4.com.
They could of run everything on the same backbone and have everything look exactly similar except for the subdomain. At least we'd have someplace to send all the people who expect everything on Cam4 to still be for free. LOL!
Well even when it was free models where still getting gifts and tributes, I'm familiar with a few Cam4'ers from their earlier days, also MFC started off without any type of tipping system. To me a separate site for payers wouldn't be practical, because those free shows bring traffic it's our job to convert it, and while I may not be the best converter I do it.
I mean every cam site is going to have freeloaders it's the nature of the beast. I personally don't find the amount of beggars to very much from site to site, or maybe I'm just so ban happy I've banned most of them LOL.
justanothercamgirl
01-22-2014, 03:51 PM
Well even when it was free models where still getting gifts and tributes, I'm familiar with a few Cam4'ers from their earlier days, also MFC started off without any type of tipping system. To me a separate site for payers wouldn't be practical, because those free shows bring traffic it's our job to convert it, and while I may not be the best converter I do it.
I mean every cam site is going to have freeloaders it's the nature of the beast. I personally don't find the amount of beggars to very much from site to site, or maybe I'm just so ban happy I've banned most of them LOL.
Oooooh, you have some really great points on the issue I hadn't thought of before!!!
CurvyWinona
01-22-2014, 03:52 PM
I understand that.. I work on Streamate too and there are freeloaders too.. .but not as bad as cam4. i tried so hard to enjoy them and i only get pennies. I never got a private on there and that sucks. its like 99 percent of time, they ask for paypal and it is getting too old. i ban everyone who asks me to have sex with animals or babies or asking me to accept paypal.
Tsani
01-22-2014, 10:34 PM
The main thing that bugs me is that everyone is a broadcaster and there's no distinction between models and customers other than they're in YOUR room. The other day I had a guy come in and say he works on the site and hadn't gotten any tips so he didn't have any money... and proceeded to try to get a free show out of me. Said "what have you got to lose just playing around with me?" Something about that just flipped an angry switch in me and I said "Money. This is my JOB." And banned his ass. That seems to be the mindset of a LOT of the guys on there. They're broadcasters too so why should they pay right? UGH. I know the site has no plans to change this though. I'm just venting a bit I suppose. I'm usually pretty calm and cool when I'm on cam and brush off freeloaders and trolls with a smile. I've been known to have way more patience with them than I probably should. But when I'm on Cam4 for a while I start getting bitchy. I usually log on there first until I can't handle it anymore, then get on Streamate and it makes Streamate feel so much better! Sometimes I do like Cam4, I can work the room and get a good countdown show going at times, but sometimes..... just ugh.
/end rant :D
LadyC
01-22-2014, 11:06 PM
I actually prefer Cam4 to the other sites. I am a BBW, that might make a difference since I do fall into that niche. The guys are so much nicer there compared to some of the other sites, IME. Tips ARE hard to come by at times, you really do have to work your room. That said, I have a great group of regulars who tip decent and shit talk the beggars for me. You can always ad a mod to your room too, if you have a regular that you trust, and they can ban/silence/kick.
My experience has been that I don't do very many private shows unless they are pre arranged (I have guys that will inbox me when they are getting paid and plan to get tokens) but most of my money is made in chat from tips. That is why I said you really do have to work your room, which I don't mind doing. I do not ever give away pics or vids, but I do have them available for tokens if guys want to purchase them. I would never short change myself on my own hard work.
Ok, it's late and I am blabbering. Just wanted to throw in my .02 about the site! :)
Kim - Cam4
01-23-2014, 01:35 AM
You know, I wish you all lived close by, I would have you over for some tea or we'd go out for drinks. I love coming here to read your comments so please don't stop.
Cam4 is a very different website. Remember, the traffic we have at the site by far outweighs many other sites so the higher number of viewers the more you're going to have those that can push your buttons a bit quicker. Tippers enjoy so many things it's hard to pinpoint one thing that works. We have tippers that are into games and many performers do well with those. We have tippers that love to 'gift' so many performers ask for a particular gift for performing a flash here or there, or even to sell their videos.
I wish you would all give thought to coming to one of Nikki's coaching sessions if for nothing else to watch her on cam. She has this personality that just draws you to her and I love how she deals with guys that some of you would probably call jerks. Each session she's dressed up as someone else, she keeps it lively and fun and our performers have learned a great deal from her - heck, I'm not a performer and I've learned quite a bit. Well, I've gone on cam a few times, at least my feet and hands have but I don't believe that counts really!! Nikki talks to the performers about how to make the site work for them, what works best, what doesn't.. and a variety of other things. We also have the new Cam4 Connect where you can tweet directly from your room while on cam - have any of you tried that? What about the calender for scheduling your shows? I know not everyone has that 'set time' that they're online, but I'm sure some of you do. Don't give up though, I have no doubt that you'll find your niche and do quite well. Add us to your twitter and let us know when you're online. I retweet as often as I can when people let me know they're having a show, all of us that have twitter accounts at Cam4 retweet performers shows and performers have seen an increase in their tips so please, add me, add Cam4, etc. we'll be happy to get the word out that you're live and online.
As for banning.. you also have the option of clicking on their name in the chat and choosing whatever option you'd like.
Ok lovelies.. off to bed for me.. night-night!
laurielegs
01-23-2014, 08:17 AM
I wish you would all give thought to coming to one of Nikki's coaching sessions if for nothing else to watch her on cam. She has this personality that just draws you to her and I love how she deals with guys that some of you would probably call jerks. Each session she's dressed up as someone else, she keeps it lively and fun and our performers have learned a great deal from her - heck, I'm not a performer and I've learned quite a bit. Well, I've gone on cam a few times, at least my feet and hands have but I don't believe that counts really!! Nikki talks to the performers about how to make the site work for them, what works best, what doesn't.. and a variety of other things.
I really hope she will consider recording a few coaching sessions for the future. Would be awesome to be able to watch them later or in case some could not attend at a particular time.