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Camigirl
05-29-2014, 12:52 PM
Don't worry I am signed with cam4 as well. I have been signed with them for a long time but rarely do I use the site, it's tough getting started. Guys are tight with the money until they get to know and trust the performer and rightly so... it's their money.
I may split the site in the future, but can't use it as my main site for sure. Takes time to get going on that site IMO.
lillmizz73
05-29-2014, 02:22 PM
oh..i wondered why my I didn't get my hourly bonus this week. Its because I didn't get tipped !! I didn't know I only got paid the bonus if I were tipped in a session :)
Tsani
05-29-2014, 04:08 PM
oh..i wondered why my I didn't get my hourly bonus this week. Its because I didn't get tipped !! I didn't know I only got paid the bonus if I were tipped in a session :)
You don't have to get tipped to get the hourly bonus. But for hours worked this week, the bonus won't show up until Wednesday or Thursday of next week. Hours that would show up today would be from the previous week.
xxxdite
05-29-2014, 04:26 PM
Is the hourly late this week? I usually see it on Wednesday
Tsani
05-29-2014, 05:02 PM
Is the hourly late this week? I usually see it on Wednesday
Not sure, I didn't work last week. But they're sometimes late when there's a holiday and Monday was Memorial Day. I know some of the staff is on vacation.
justanothercamgirl
05-29-2014, 05:13 PM
Cam4 is my first shot at camming. It can be very depressing to sit for hours and not make a single cent. I do nude strip in pvt and flashes in public for tks. [I]m lucky to get 4 or 5 people in my room. They all just seem to expect everything for free. I do see some of the top male/female performers making some money but mostly they are doing more hardcore things than what I offer. It really is effecting my self esteem..maybe I just need to toughen up :)
In my opinion Cam4 is the *WORST* first site to ever start with. I can hustle with the best of them and I can't even make that site work for me.
My advice is to sign up for another site ASAP. You could always split Cam4 with either MFC or Chaturbate if you wanted to keep trying there.
space_cowgirl
05-29-2014, 06:41 PM
^ Same here. I bow down to the women who CAN make money on Cam4, but I've cammed on every site you could name for four years now and I can't make those dudes tip.
tomasiello
05-30-2014, 09:43 PM
hi girls...I took the day trying learning about adultwork and cam4,so tomorrow I will be trying cam4.i was watching at cam4 and saw cam4 ultimate and cam4.it does mean top models and regular ones?tks.
tomasiello
05-30-2014, 10:01 PM
hi girls...I took the day trying learning about adultwork and cam4,so tomorrow I will be trying cam4.i was watching at cam4 and saw cam4 ultimate and cam4.it does mean top models and regular ones?tks.
I forgot,they have a gold show as well
Tsani
05-30-2014, 10:25 PM
Cam4 ultimate is a Streamate white label, so it's basically just Streamate but re-branded under the Cam4 name. Cam4.it just routes to Cam4. A lot of big sites like that buy up a lot of domain extensions like .com, .net, etc. to direct more traffic to the site.
tomasiello
05-31-2014, 04:24 AM
Cam4 ultimate is a Streamate white label, so it's basically just Streamate but re-branded under the Cam4 name. Cam4.it just routes to Cam4. A lot of big sites like that buy up a lot of domain extensions like .com, .net, etc. to direct more traffic to the site.thank you
tomasiello
05-31-2014, 11:20 AM
Hi...i couldnt find the answer...so i was on for couple minutes,and i got a lot of pm and friend request,should i accept them is good for me?tks
tomasiello
05-31-2014, 11:21 AM
Ps. I will really try tonight
space_cowgirl
05-31-2014, 03:05 PM
It's not "good for you" unless you are charging them something to be added to your friends list. I make them pay 5 tokens for that and 20 for a PM. They will harass you to death PM-ing if you let them. I do it (once they tip) ONLY to discuss shows, not to give them cheap dirty talk while ignoring the rest of the room. Honestly, I think it's easier to just tell them to start a private show if they want individual attention.
On that note, make sure that THEY are starting a pvt show with you (they have a button for it) in order to be paid by the minute. You can also start a pvt show when you reach a goal by adding each tipper's name. I had zero luck with DIY "gold shows" or goals there, but have had some privates and small tips.
Overall, the guys there suck, IMO.
tomasiello
05-31-2014, 03:14 PM
It's not "good for you" unless you are charging them something to be added to your friends list. I make them pay 5 tokens for that and 20 for a PM. They will harass you to death PM-ing if you let them. I do it (once they tip) ONLY to discuss shows, not to give them cheap dirty talk while ignoring the rest of the room. Honestly, I think it's easier to just tell them to start a private show if they want individual attention.
On that note, make sure that THEY are starting a pvt show with you (they have a button for it) in order to be paid by the minute. You can also start a pvt show when you reach a goal by adding each tipper's name. I had zero luck with DIY "gold shows" or goals there, but have had some privates and small tips.
Overall, the guys there suck, IMO.thank you...I will try there...I was on Imlive for almost 4 hours and nothing today in the morning,so I will try cam4 tonight.i will no accept pm then as I thought would not be good.
Spinnerette
05-31-2014, 04:01 PM
I am sorry to ask if this has already been answered somewhere, but I can't find it on the site: How much is a token worth?
Tsani
05-31-2014, 06:34 PM
For the customer, it varies depending on how many they buy at once. For the performers, each token is worth $0.10.
Kim - Cam4
06-01-2014, 07:52 AM
I've been reading back through some of the posts and the struggles a few of you are having.
Cam4 is a different beast entirely from other websites, it's what makes us unique and popular. You simply need to find that niche.
I would like to suggest that if you are struggling to please attend Nikki's coaching classes. I've talked to performers who were struggling to get a foot hold and are now doing quite well. She does a great open forum on Tuesday nights and it allows everyone to ask anything and is not as structured as the coaching sessions on Wednesday.
Today, if you can make it, we will be having one of those open forums from 1-4pm (EST) celebrating our 7th birthday, but all questions are welcomed. Please, if you can try to make it, log into your cam4bucks.com account and the information for log in is on the dashboard/news.
I will be there and would love to meet you! So please stop by!
Kim - Cam4
06-01-2014, 07:54 AM
I know, I'm posting a second time.. but I didn't want the post to get lost in the one above.
I will find out when I can let you know, but we have something really exciting coming about the second to last week of this month that I think you'll all love.
I promise to let you know just as soon as I can!
Spinnerette
06-01-2014, 08:03 AM
For the customer, it varies depending on how many they buy at once. For the performers, each token is worth $0.10.
Thank you. :)
justanothercamgirl
06-01-2014, 08:23 AM
I've been reading back through some of the posts and the struggles a few of you are having.
Cam4 is a different beast entirely from other websites, it's what makes us unique and popular. You simply need to find that niche.
I would like to suggest that if you are struggling to please attend Nikki's coaching classes. I've talked to performers who were struggling to get a foot hold and are now doing quite well. She does a great open forum on Tuesday nights and it allows everyone to ask anything and is not as structured as the coaching sessions on Wednesday.
Today, if you can make it, we will be having one of those open forums from 1-4pm (EST) celebrating our 7th birthday, but all questions are welcomed. Please, if you can try to make it, log into your cam4bucks.com account and the information for log in is on the dashboard/news.
I will be there and would love to meet you! So please stop by!
I have attended many of Nikki's classes and I have enjoyed them immensely. She is a really great coach!
I love many things about Cam4 but I have to say it isn't just about 'finding your niche' when it comes to the site. The simple fact that it has not had a tipping culture for a very long time does make it a much harder site to make money from. Also token-based sites seem to be a challenging hustle for a lot of camgirls overall in general.
I don't say this because I am bashing Cam4 or anything like that at all! It is my favourite site to work to date. There are so many good things about the site and I am looking forward to seeing it grow more and more amazing as time goes by.
I am only commenting on your post because it is my personal opinion that making money on the site isn't as easy as 'finding that niche' or attending coaching classes. Some camgirls love to take on hustling challenges.......but I don't think there is anything wrong with admitting that making money on Cam4 is challenging for those camgirls who don't.
space_cowgirl
06-01-2014, 01:13 PM
^Exactly. I've watched Nikki's sessions and she has good advice...if you're new to camming. Many of us came to cam4 after working webcam for years. Like JAC said, there just isn't a "tipping culture" established. I hope this changes. In the meantime, you can have the best lighting, poses, outfits, etc. in the world and the guys on cam4 still want to see you fuck your ass in free chat for free and get pissed when you won't.
HairyG
06-01-2014, 01:28 PM
You don't have to get tipped to get the hourly bonus. But for hours worked this week, the bonus won't show up until Wednesday or Thursday of next week. Hours that would show up today would be from the previous week.
Yes, you're right, my mistake :)
lillmizz73
06-01-2014, 08:59 PM
Are Nikkis coaching tutorials archived online to watch? I live OS and im at work when shes online doing the tutorials. I would love to see them and see what I can learn.
justanothercamgirl
06-02-2014, 05:29 AM
Are Nikkis coaching tutorials archived online to watch? I live OS and im at work when shes online doing the tutorials. I would love to see them and see what I can learn.
The don't record them, but if you email Nikki she is sweet enough to send your the really great write ups she does.
Kim - Cam4
06-02-2014, 07:29 AM
Thank you JAC and SC - and I agree, my comments were more for those new to camming. I know Cam4 is vastly different as it did not start out with a tipping format but I think that is changing slowly.
Let me ask you this...
If there is one thing you could add or change to Cam4 what would that be? I'm very interested in your feedback so please don't be shy.
Kim
brittany_bitch
06-02-2014, 08:51 AM
I would add an hourly pay to models like maybe even 6 dollars an hour or more that's not even minimum wage but to keep models there the site needs to provide income and it just isn't I didn't even make 60 bucks and did more than 100 hours :(
Tsani
06-02-2014, 09:09 AM
Well, one thing I notice is guys asking what I'm here (on Cam4) for; tokens, fun/showing off, or meeting someone. I know there are people still on Cam4 who don't cam there for money, but I get tired of having to explain to guys that this is my job. I'm not here to make friends or hook up with anyone, and while I do enjoy my job and have fun with it, I'm not going to do it for free.
My suggestion would be to make an option for those of us who are there to make money to select that in our account options or something. Then that would either give us a different name color (like the blacks/golds, maybe make a third color), or put us in a category or something. I don't know, just something to make it clear to guys what "type" of cammer we are? Maybe a color banner over our broadcast window that says something to indicate our cam type without sounding too much like "hey tip this person!" lol. Or maybe have the ones who are just there for fun/exhibition/hook ups, etc. be but into a different category. Pretty much anything that's more blatant than just stating it on our profiles, because obviously most guys don't read our profiles.
I know that in the past I've suggested distinguishing between models and customers and that idea was kinda shot down as not what Cam4 is about or something to that effect. But I really think that until there's a clear distinction made between the professional money-making cammers and the ones who don't ask for tokens at all, we'll continue to struggle with getting guys to tip or realize they're not going to be getting freebies from us.
Thanks for listening to our suggestions, Kim. You're awesome!
justanothercamgirl
06-02-2014, 09:55 AM
Let me ask you this...
If there is one thing you could add or change to Cam4 what would that be? I'm very interested in your feedback so please don't be shy.
Kim
In my opinion.....Cam4 is truly awesome. I don't have one complaint about the site or the way it is run. But Cam4 pretty much started as a place where people could find thing completely free and to find a partner to hook up with in real life for free. It is just to take a lot of time to now 'train' them into tipping for what they once could get and expect for free.
I know Cam4 will get there.... eventually the 'young blood camgirls' with lots of time and energy will be able to train them.
Its just that I don't have a lot of young blood in me anymore. LOL!
tomasiello
06-02-2014, 12:57 PM
I stayed on for one hour, nice nurse outfit, compliments but no money ... Lets see it.
AnnabellaBBW
06-04-2014, 06:33 PM
has anyone ever received a check from them?? if so, how long did it take if your in USA?? and how do you know how many hours you have been working?? TIA
Ashalicious
06-04-2014, 06:38 PM
Kim, is there any way to tell which users have tokens in their account and which do not?
Tsani
06-04-2014, 07:18 PM
I always receive my checks from Cam4, they're usually here within a few business days of requesting them. No more than a week after. If you're on the hourly bonus, those hours get added to your account the following Wednesday or Thursday for the week prior. You can filter your chat room so that you can only see members with tokens chatting.
AnnabellaBBW
06-04-2014, 07:22 PM
thanks for answering! do you mean week prior?? @tsani
Tsani
06-04-2014, 10:39 PM
thanks for answering! do you mean week prior?? @tsani
Oops! Yeah week prior, sorry. I'll fix that now. :D
Kim - Cam4
06-05-2014, 07:48 AM
I will be back a bit later today guys.. but I have a really important question to ask..
Next week we will be going live with a list of "white listed performers only" for our new HTML BIOS! You guys should see the neat things you'll be able to do with your profiles. How many of you would like to be added to the white list so you can glam up your profiles!
If you are interested, send me an email (
[email protected]) with your user name by the end of today so I can get you added to the list, ok!?
I'm so excited about this as I believe this is something a few of you asked for the ability to do so get in touch please!
HairyG
06-05-2014, 08:14 AM
Hi Kim :)
What are white listed performers ? Would that be a directory with the camgirls who cam as a job ?
Kim - Cam4
06-05-2014, 08:17 AM
Hello G!
White listed performers are those performers we bring in for the testing phase. So you will be the first to be able to have HTML Bios before the rest of the site. I say we do it to see if you can break it! *laughs* But really, we just like to white list a few, see how it goes before we open it to the entire website. I wanted to offer it to those of you here as I know a few of you had asked about it in the past... and cuz I love you guys.
HairyG
06-05-2014, 09:27 AM
Thank you :)
I don't know if I'll send you an email, though... I haven't been able to cam a lot lately (had some pc problems too) and I'll move in a couple weeks, being without Internet for a moment. I'll think about it and will let you know. <3
Tsani
06-05-2014, 10:53 AM
I haven't been camming much lately either, but I do love me some HTML so I will definitely be emailing you so I can play and see if I can break it LOL!
On another note, did the second coaching session of yesterday not happen? I waited for almost a full hour and there was no Nikki :(
Kim - Cam4
06-05-2014, 09:45 PM
Brittany_bitch - Unfortunately hon that is not something we will do.
Tsani - did you sign up to be white listed for the new HTML BIOS? You should, this would be a great way to let the members know that this is your job, what your rates are for private shows, videos, etc.
Ashalicious - no, that is not something we display hon. It would kind of violate the privacy of the member (Tipper). I have talked with many of them and it is not something they want as they feel they are already targeted by so many due to being either gold or tipping a performer.
Tsani - aww hon, I'm sorry. It was supposed to happen but because the first one ran so long with the product team they canceled the second one.
I believe three of you contacted me so far to be white listed - don't forget. I believe the white list will be going live on Tuesday. I'm so excited to see what you will create!
Off to bed for me.. very long day! Nighters!
JaneBurgess
06-05-2014, 09:50 PM
I sent an email to be added to the white list. I love new features
Tsani
06-05-2014, 10:09 PM
Yep, I emailed you to be added to the white list. Thanks!
Kim - Cam4
06-06-2014, 09:40 PM
A huge thanks to everyone that wrote to get involved with the testing! I cannot take any new names now as they've closed off the white listing but hang tight as it shouldn't be too long till it's released to everyone.
I can let you in on the other secret as well - Cam2Cam is about to come to Cam4!! Yeah!! I've seen it and I think you'll be quite happy with it. Group shows will also be coming very soon. Two new ways to have shows in Cam4, no reason people need to bug you about skype.
We have also put forth to the developers to give you the ability to type someone's name in to ban them instead of them always having to be in your room. This means someone posting on your wall that you wish to ban will be as simply as writing them name in a box and hitting ENTER!
So, there you have it.. a whole lotta new toys to play with coming your way!
Tsani
06-06-2014, 10:57 PM
YAYYYY!!!! That's the main excuse guys usually give for wanting to do a show on skype instead of via Cam4. I'm sure some of them are just gonna continue being freeloaders using skype as an excuse to waste my time, but at least they won't have that particular excuse anymore LOL.
And in case I haven't told you lately, Kim:
You're awesome!
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131201013520/the-house-of-anubis/images/0/00/Youre_awesome_gif.gif
Kim - Cam4
06-07-2014, 10:02 AM
Aww Tsani and if we will be white listing for the C2C I will be sure to pop in here to let you all know so you can sign up for it.
Have a great weekend everyone!
I wish that Cam4 becomes the leader of all the cam sites, its not easy site to start but i just somehow like it because it is different to the rest! Wish it would be my only and the one site in my future! !
I havent worked for awhile because i have appointment on wednesday im pregnant and will do abortion with my my ex. So emotionally cant go on cam before this will happen and after that for a week for sure not, that body will recover.
Thank you Kim for letting us know for all the new things on Cam4! Looking forward, although i missed the "white list" stuff hehehe..
huggs to all,
love,
Samm
takiaya
06-08-2014, 05:44 AM
A huge thanks to everyone that wrote to get involved with the testing! I cannot take any new names now as they've closed off the white listing but hang tight as it shouldn't be too long till it's released to everyone.
I can let you in on the other secret as well - Cam2Cam is about to come to Cam4!! Yeah!! I've seen it and I think you'll be quite happy with it. Group shows will also be coming very soon. Two new ways to have shows in Cam4, no reason people need to bug you about skype.
We have also put forth to the developers to give you the ability to type someone's name in to ban them instead of them always having to be in your room. This means someone posting on your wall that you wish to ban will be as simply as writing them name in a box and hitting ENTER!
So, there you have it.. a whole lotta new toys to play with coming your way!
:D I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS!!! I love cam4, its definitely one of my favorite sites to cam on, please add me if the white list opens before its available to everyone.
HairyG
06-10-2014, 10:32 AM
A huge thanks to everyone that wrote to get involved with the testing! I cannot take any new names now as they've closed off the white listing but hang tight as it shouldn't be too long till it's released to everyone.
I can let you in on the other secret as well - Cam2Cam is about to come to Cam4!! Yeah!! I've seen it and I think you'll be quite happy with it. Group shows will also be coming very soon. Two new ways to have shows in Cam4, no reason people need to bug you about skype.
We have also put forth to the developers to give you the ability to type someone's name in to ban them instead of them always having to be in your room. This means someone posting on your wall that you wish to ban will be as simply as writing them name in a box and hitting ENTER!
So, there you have it.. a whole lotta new toys to play with coming your way!
Yay, that would be amazing !! Thank you :) :)
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 04:19 PM
I'll be on later tonight testing it out. Cant wait!