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~~ Posted this same message on the other thread too ~~
First of all, u mean u have a member who spent on you on cam4 then sent u money directly? Which means u actually took a member off cam4 platform to pay u directly, which again i dont think cam4 is happy about so THIS could be the reason they deleted ur account?! Is this what u saying, that u exchanged contact info with the cam4 member while on cam4?!
Not that i care about cam4 as i myself had issues with them as i explained in here but now u give new info and if what i read is what u mean then THIS could have get u in trouble? Most sites wont allow u to exchange contact info with their members so they can pay u directly and i think cam4 is one of them?!
Secondly, Kim is a lady not a man.
Pls clarify cause i really wish to understand the situation ty.
Sam38g
04-19-2016, 11:58 PM
If he sent you money directly then this means you could possibly be in on scamming the site.
As in he tips you big then contacts you outside the site to get money back from you.
Especially if you are in Europe where this is common. Cause if he can pay you so easily directly, why would he be paying you on a cam site where you would get less than 50% of the money. Unless you both were scamming the site.
Why would a customer have your email address & bank account information?
Even if you & he was legit, why would you take the risk of breaking the TOS & giving a customer your private information so he can contact you off site?
In the long run, and if cam4 was your only income was it REALLY worth it to steal him away from the site?
evecandauli
04-20-2016, 12:50 AM
If he sent you money directly then this means you could possibly be in on scamming the site.
As in he tips you big then contacts you outside the site to get money back from you.
Especially if you are in Europe where this is common. Cause if he can pay you so easily directly, why would he be paying you on a cam site where you would get less than 50% of the money. Unless you both were scamming the site.
Why would a customer have your email address & bank account information?
Even if you & he was legit, why would you take the risk of breaking the TOS & giving a customer your private information so he can contact you off site?
In the long run, and if cam4 was your only income was it REALLY worth it to steal him away from the site?
Thanks Sam38g for reply,
1) No the payment was after that my cam4 account was banned, detail info shared with the guy was before account banned, but after account deleted & there is no way to connect to cam4 anymore I choose this way to be paid.
2) It was also after my request to this guy to send 20$ to verify if the credit card was stolen or not after Kim reply but the surprise the sender was him (his name was in the sender field).
Best regards.
LadyCoco
05-18-2016, 03:38 PM
I applied to this site. I like the training and the software that's used for camming. I need to set up my profile before doing any shows though.
Missjayne77
05-18-2016, 04:57 PM
I applied to this site. I like the training and the software that's used for camming. I need to set up my profile before doing any shows though.
Let me know how you go, i see it advertised everywhere but heard too many bad reviews to join yet.
LadyCoco
05-21-2016, 09:40 AM
I will give my input but it's taking forever to get approved on there!
KatyBoleyn
05-21-2016, 08:19 PM
Just a warning, Cam4 has stopped doing their "hourly" program for new models altogether. We had to pay out of our own pockets today when they pulled the rug out from under 2 new signups that started working. Ending a signup program like that without warning was NOT cool, especially since we have to go back through our site and find the text for that program so other models don't sign up with the wrong impression. It put the obligation on us to fulfill it in that case.
Tsani
05-21-2016, 08:40 PM
Ugh, that sucks, Katy! I knew the new model promo would end eventually but some warning would have been good. I expected better from Cam4, what a shame :( I'm sorry your studio had to deal with that, and it was awesome of you to cover their mistake. I'd try to get some compensation from them though if I were you.
FreakyFranky
05-21-2016, 11:10 PM
I just wanted to chime back in here.... I signed up for this site originally under the hourly a few years ago.
I logged back in today and barely had a handful of people in my room and they all wanted skype and told me that 60 tokens a minute was too much.
Um. Kay. Definitely won't be logging back in at this site.
$3/minute is too much.... their price, still only HALF my cut? Um, no.
This camming business thing is going backwards I feel like. Cam girls shouldn't be getting cheaper, they should be getting more expensive because we are a LUXURY business! But I'm just ranting now, anyway. Its BOGUS as fuck of them to put that money on Katy's business cuz they couldn't follow through with their own program!
Sorry to hear about these last issues with cam4 ladies, is no surprise for me unfortunately, these people advertised hourly program to every model but they never paid certain nationals, i'll never forget or forgive them for how they rejected my sign up application claiming 'i did fraud' on their site when i was never camming there ever! It's a shame sites like this still exist on the market.......
Bristol
05-24-2016, 04:36 PM
I logged back in today and barely had a handful of people in my room and they all wanted skype and told me that 60 tokens a minute was too much.
I've been having an extremely difficult time earning anything on Cam4 lately. I go multiple days with between $0 to $2 per shift. I never get privates anymore. Because of that I've been forced to do multiple sites. For exactly the same show, I'll make $50 on Chaturbate, but make absolutely nothing on Cam4. This happens every single time. The only reason I put up with the site is because I have 2 long time regulars. One of which came over from KinkLive after it sold out to F4F. If it weren't for those two guys I would quit the site completely. I've had a lot of ups and downs on this site going from hating it to sort of liking it back to hating it. My best day ever was on Cam4 ($600 in a 4-5 hour period) but I've never been able to reproduce it again.
SylvySinclair
05-24-2016, 04:55 PM
only from looking at the site i wouldnt join it, it doesnt look professional at all.
RaeRae
05-25-2016, 06:58 AM
I logged back in today and barely had a handful of people in my room and they all wanted skype and told me that 60 tokens a minute was too much.
Actually, that's $6.00 your cut per minute, as Cam4 pays out to models at 10 cents per token.
Kim - Cam4
05-27-2016, 10:41 AM
Just a warning, Cam4 has stopped doing their "hourly" program for new models altogether. We had to pay out of our own pockets today when they pulled the rug out from under 2 new signups that started working. Ending a signup program like that without warning was NOT cool, especially since we have to go back through our site and find the text for that program so other models don't sign up with the wrong impression. It put the obligation on us to fulfill it in that case.
Katy, I don't know who you spoke with, but I have at least two of your girls still on the program, perhaps three. The current bonus program was put on hold as they are updating it. But no one that is on the program has been thrown off or not paid. If they were on prior to the hold, then they are still on it. If you had to pay someone out, I can assure you they were not on the program prior to us putting it on hold. Feel free to contact me directly or have Rae contact me and I can go over the accounts with her.
I think sometimes it's easy to jump on a bandwagon without all the details. My email is always available for those who have questions or problems. If email isn't your thing, you can DM me or ask me for my skype and I will be happy to help.
Kim
Kim - Cam4
05-27-2016, 10:59 AM
I've been having an extremely difficult time earning anything on Cam4 lately. I go multiple days with between $0 to $2 per shift. I never get privates anymore. Because of that I've been forced to do multiple sites. For exactly the same show, I'll make $50 on Chaturbate, but make absolutely nothing on Cam4. This happens every single time. The only reason I put up with the site is because I have 2 long time regulars. One of which came over from KinkLive after it sold out to F4F. If it weren't for those two guys I would quit the site completely. I've had a lot of ups and downs on this site going from hating it to sort of liking it back to hating it. My best day ever was on Cam4 ($600 in a 4-5 hour period) but I've never been able to reproduce it again.
Bristol - have you thought about perhaps doing a Gold Exclusive show? I have girls that make several hundreds during one of those to one girl that recently made almost $2500; she was having a birthday celebration. If it's something you'd like more information on, please feel free to email md and I will explain more.
Kim - Cam4
05-27-2016, 11:00 AM
I will give my input but it's taking forever to get approved on there!
Coco, I believe I saw your name earlier and you had no live broadcasts. Approval is not needed for you to go on cam hon, only for you to cash out.
LadyCoco
06-10-2016, 01:02 PM
First day on Cam4 and made squat. Had very little guys in my room except for one who just wanted to talk and another VIP who wanted to get off. I don't know if I have the patience for this site but I know that there's income potential with it. But you have to enjoy being on a site such as this too lol.
anonymous camgirl
06-10-2016, 05:40 PM
I signed up to cam here in 2013.. I decided to try it again today.. I lasted 6 days back then but my mood is better and I am having the best time on cam since I started 14 yrs ago lol.. I made NOTHING today.. I didn't work that much .. and I also heard nothing but skype skype skype.. pm pm pm.. not one single token.. even though they got to see FREE tits and ass courtesy of my other 8 cam sites.. I think I will devote only 1 hour a day til I gain a following.. it was a bit stressful trying to deal with 8 cam sites where I make money and trying out a new one that cannot even give me 1 token at all for all that I was giving in return.. I can see why I quit after 6 days then..lol
First day on Cam4 and made squat. Had very little guys in my room except for one who just wanted to talk and another VIP who wanted to get off. I don't know if I have the patience for this site but I know that there's income potential with it. But you have to enjoy being on a site such as this too lol.
anonymous camgirl
06-10-2016, 05:42 PM
I was wondering how I can pause my live feed or something without closing out the window when I get a pvt.. I really do not want to give them any free shows right now since I have not received not even 1 token yet.. is that really the only way I can avoid this situation is to close out the window.. been trying to figure that out all day and it's quite the pain in the ass.. everytime I open it back up I have to set my private rates and set a new topic EVERYTIME I get a show on another site.
LadyCoco
06-10-2016, 05:47 PM
I signed up to cam here in 2013.. I decided to try it again today.. I lasted 6 days back then but my mood is better and I am having the best time on cam since I started 14 yrs ago lol.. I made NOTHING today.. I didn't work that much .. and I also heard nothing but skype skype skype.. pm pm pm.. not one single token.. even though they got to see FREE tits and ass courtesy of my other 8 cam sites.. I think I will devote only 1 hour a day til I gain a following.. it was a bit stressful trying to deal with 8 cam sites where I make money and trying out a new one that cannot even give me 1 token at all for all that I was giving in return.. I can see why I quit after 6 days then..lol
They kept asking me for Skype too, and I just kept saying, "I don't do Skype, read my profile." That first hour was rough! And after the second one, I was about done with it! I am much happier and positive than I used to be, but damn, I don't think I really have the patience for that site lol. Doing 1 hour a day sounds like a good idea though and would work with my other sites and shows.
anonymous camgirl
06-10-2016, 05:59 PM
Yea some of these sites I realize it is so overwhelming and you don't make anything at all in the beginning ... especially on token sites!.. I kinda did the same thing with CB.. and I have been on there for 4 months now.. still not making a lot but I am not doing public masturbation shows every hour either.. just using it as a side site just whatever I could get.. but when I first started some days I made nothing and other days only $1.. I am proud to say on there I have made $300 a week or more.. not that bad for only getting a few shows at 60 a min and some tips.. I will never be super popular on there.. I much prefer to work ALL my cam sites at the same time.. it really takes the pressure off and much easier to get to your daily goal. But even on CB it was rough in the beginning NOT good..
They kept asking me for Skype too, and I just kept saying, "I don't do Skype, read my profile." That first hour was rough! And after the second one, I was about done with it! I am much happier and positive than I used to be, but damn, I don't think I really have the patience for that site lol. Doing 1 hour a day sounds like a good idea though and would work with my other sites and shows.
LadyCoco
06-10-2016, 06:27 PM
Yea some of these sites I realize it is so overwhelming and you don't make anything at all in the beginning ... especially on token sites!.. I kinda did the same thing with CB.. and I have been on there for 4 months now.. still not making a lot but I am not doing public masturbation shows every hour either.. just using it as a side site just whatever I could get.. but when I first started some days I made nothing and other days only $1.. I am proud to say on there I have made $300 a week or more.. not that bad for only getting a few shows at 60 a min and some tips.. I will never be super popular on there.. I much prefer to work ALL my cam sites at the same time.. it really takes the pressure off and much easier to get to your daily goal. But even on CB it was rough in the beginning NOT good..
Yup. I used to love token sites when I was younger. But now as I'm getting older, I've been changing up my hustle and I no longer have the patience for token sites as much. I've been on the fence with CB with the way it treats models and members. But I like Cams4 because of its training, support, and features. Even the model support each other. There's no cattiness like with other sites. I'll stick it out and split cam if I have to. I see potential with it when I watch the "top" girls, but I'm sure they're not making bank like MFC's top girls lol.
Bristol
06-10-2016, 09:19 PM
Has anyone gotten privates to work on Chrome? It never works for me and I've lost money due to it. I click the accept button on the private request and nothing happens. I have to run Firefox just for Cam4 to get privates to work. (Even though it's pretty rare I get a pvt on Cam4, but if I do it pays well.)
LadyCoco
06-11-2016, 08:50 AM
I learned something interesting today. You can't type something like 25 tk for __ in your free chat because it shows up like *** for __. Odd. Is asking for tokens so wrong? lol
Tsani
06-11-2016, 09:45 PM
I learned something interesting today. You can't type something like 25 tk for __ in your free chat because it shows up like *** for __. Odd. Is asking for tokens so wrong? lol
Really? I know they've got some crazy chat filters that censor out stuff like dog, mom, paypal, etc. but censoring out "25 tk"?? WTF? You might want to bring that to support's attention because sometimes they have glitches with it. And if it's actually some bs like the customers complained about models asking for tokens then fuck them. Trying to get tips out of the dudes there is like pulling teeth. I used to have a scrolling text across the bottom of my screen in free chat (I used manycam to make the text) that said stuff like "tip for requests, no skype, no paypal" so you could try that if the chat is blocking it.
Femmestudent
06-11-2016, 11:03 PM
I actually managed to pull 30$ outta C4 tonight in private shows in half an hour. Not too shabby.
LadyCoco
06-12-2016, 09:13 AM
Well I contacted support about the issue and this is what they told me.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting us. Unfortunately some words must be censored, but tk is not currently a censored word. .tk however, is censored, so please make sure you do not place a "." before writing tk
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Kind regards,
Joe
Kim - Cam4
06-19-2016, 05:42 AM
Good morning lovely ladies!
@Anonymous Camgirl - the feature to pause is not currently available but it's coming soon! It's one feature that we've had a lot of requests for so it's being created.
"I have to set my private rates and set a new topic EVERYTIME I get a show on another site."
Your status bar should stay the same or when you refer to "topic" are you referring to something else?
@Bristol - thank you for this information, I will be passing this along to the tech's so they can investigate.
@LadyCoco - I will look into this. I believe we had an issue of harassment and that was being used by not in reference to tokens.
@Femmestudent - Great job!
I know the site can be difficult to work so when I hear this I like to suggest selling blocks of time and using the password protected private room. This allows you to sell blocks of time for one or more people. Some girls find this is the best way for them to work and earn more.
Also, for those not aware, we now have VR shows. If any of you are interested in performing as a VR model please send me an email (
[email protected]) and I'll point you in the right direction to get further information.
Have a great Sunday!
LadyCoco
06-19-2016, 09:57 AM
Good morning lovely ladies!
@Anonymous Camgirl - the feature to pause is not currently available but it's coming soon! It's one feature that we've had a lot of requests for so it's being created.
"I have to set my private rates and set a new topic EVERYTIME I get a show on another site."
Your status bar should stay the same or when you refer to "topic" are you referring to something else?
@Bristol - thank you for this information, I will be passing this along to the tech's so they can investigate.
@LadyCoco - I will look into this. I believe we had an issue of harassment and that was being used by not in reference to tokens.
@Femmestudent - Great job!
I know the site can be difficult to work so when I hear this I like to suggest selling blocks of time and using the password protected private room. This allows you to sell blocks of time for one or more people. Some girls find this is the best way for them to work and earn more.
Also, for those not aware, we now have VR shows. If any of you are interested in performing as a VR model please send me an email (
[email protected]) and I'll point you in the right direction to get further information.
Have a great Sunday!
Hi Kim! Is that the same as gold shows? I don't remember seeing that in the training, but I'll have to go back and look!
Tsani
06-19-2016, 11:22 AM
From what I remember, it's similar to gold shows. It's not automated though. You can set the terms of it. How I used to do it was I would set a token goal with the goal tools and when I hit the goal, I'd create a private room and only invite the people who paid in to the show. It's been a while so I don't remember exactly how it worked but do play around with it, it can be helpful.
LadyCoco
06-19-2016, 05:47 PM
Oh, ok so it's called password protected shows. Duh lol.
Kim - Cam4
06-20-2016, 11:07 AM
Oh, ok so it's called password protected shows. Duh lol.
Yes, Gold exclusive shows are done in private password protected rooms hon.
VR shows are completely different.
If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
jasmine22
06-24-2016, 07:53 PM
I had a moderator come in and tell me how to dress, and run my room, like telling me to stay topless for a while, and what color underwear to wear....is this normal?
LadyCoco
06-24-2016, 08:54 PM
Noooooooo no one should be telling you how to run your shows unless they're a reg or you made them a mod, and even then they shouldn't tell you what to do!
Bristol
06-25-2016, 12:54 AM
is this normal?
Nope.
anonymous camgirl
06-26-2016, 05:58 AM
How do you ban someone if they are no longer in your room? I Keep getting inflammatory messages from this guy... would like him to disappear.
Kim - Cam4
06-26-2016, 12:15 PM
I had a moderator come in and tell me how to dress, and run my room, like telling me to stay topless for a while, and what color underwear to wear....is this normal?
Hello Jasmine! Do you remember the name hon? This is not something that we do but I do know we have people who go around 'pretending' they are staff and try to get shows from the performers in skype - another reason not to use it.
Kim - Cam4
06-26-2016, 12:17 PM
How do you ban someone if they are no longer in your room? I Keep getting inflammatory messages from this guy... would like him to disappear.
In the upper right there is a cogwheel > choose My account > in the left hand menu is a "Manage Bans" and an area at the bottom to write in the user name. Click "add user" and it will ban the member from your room.
Let me know if there is anything else hon.
anonymous camgirl
06-26-2016, 12:27 PM
Thanks Kim.. my issue was the offline messages but I figured that out.. for those who were no longer in my room.. I went to my account and manage bans.. it worked like a charm.. thanks
In the upper right there is a cogwheel > choose My account > in the left hand menu is a "Manage Bans" and an area at the bottom to write in the user name. Click "add user" and it will ban the member from your room.
Let me know if there is anything else hon.
jasmine22
06-26-2016, 12:31 PM
I don't remember, but if they come back in my room I will mesage you on here thanks Kim!
Kim - Cam4
06-26-2016, 02:32 PM
Thanks Kim.. my issue was the offline messages but I figured that out.. for those who were no longer in my room.. I went to my account and manage bans.. it worked like a charm.. thanks
Great! Thank you for letting me know.
If you have any other problems, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Kim - Cam4
06-26-2016, 02:32 PM
I don't remember, but if they come back in my room I will mesage you on here thanks Kim!
You're more than welcome hon, any time.
anonymous camgirl
06-27-2016, 08:18 AM
I cannot log in to my room.. It keeps saying I am already in the room!.. what gives? I dunno what to do ?
LadyCoco
06-30-2016, 07:32 PM
Good morning lovely ladies!
@Anonymous Camgirl - the feature to pause is not currently available but it's coming soon! It's one feature that we've had a lot of requests for so it's being created.
"I have to set my private rates and set a new topic EVERYTIME I get a show on another site."
Your status bar should stay the same or when you refer to "topic" are you referring to something else?
@Bristol - thank you for this information, I will be passing this along to the tech's so they can investigate.
@LadyCoco - I will look into this. I believe we had an issue of harassment and that was being used by not in reference to tokens.
@Femmestudent - Great job!
I know the site can be difficult to work so when I hear this I like to suggest selling blocks of time and using the password protected private room. This allows you to sell blocks of time for one or more people. Some girls find this is the best way for them to work and earn more.
Also, for those not aware, we now have VR shows. If any of you are interested in performing as a VR model please send me an email (
[email protected]) and I'll point you in the right direction to get further information.
Have a great Sunday!
So I read the training and it says that you need to be a gold member performer or have a fan club to have a password protected show, is that correct?
anonymous camgirl
07-02-2016, 09:21 AM
why do almost everyone asks for Skype shows? is that even allowed? I keep saying NO to them.. I am getting really tired of them asking!..
LadyCoco
07-02-2016, 10:34 AM
why do almost everyone asks for Skype shows? is that even allowed? I keep saying NO to them.. I am getting really tired of them asking!..
Cam4 prefers if we do pvt shows on their but I've seen girls sell skype showson their profile. But those guys want cheap rates and PayPal.
anonymous camgirl
07-02-2016, 11:11 AM
well if they wanted Skype shows I would charge them more!.. the percentage I get paid to do a Skype show!..lol
Cam4 prefers if we do pvt shows on their but I've seen girls sell skype showson their profile. But those guys want cheap rates and PayPal.
LadyCoco
07-13-2016, 06:32 PM
well if they wanted Skype shows I would charge them more!.. the percentage I get paid to do a Skype show!..lol
They pull this on all of the token sites. It's not just a Cam4 thing.
I came back to this site. I really want to break this site because I love the support from the staff and the other models. Everyone is just so supportive. And the contests are a plus, too. I've seen some girls make a shit load of tokens, as much as the MFC and CB girls, so I still have hope.
I still don't understand how password protected shows work still. I think I'm going to send an email to you Kim, if that's okay.
Bristol
07-14-2016, 09:55 AM
why do almost everyone asks for Skype shows? is that even allowed? I keep saying NO to them.. I am getting really tired of them asking!..
Because they want two-way audio & video so you can see and hear them. Two-way interaction is more intense for them. They probably don't trust sending their video over the site thinking it'll be recorded by Cam4, since there's no distinction between a model and customer account. I think it's not a coincidence that on sites where there's a distinction between model and customer accounts (Streamate), you'll see a lot fewer Skype requests.
I'm not even sure if it's allowed, but I think it's discouraged at the minimum. If you do them, you have be clear about selling them for tokens to stay within the rules.
anonymous camgirl
07-14-2016, 10:13 AM
thanks it's really annoying!.. I wish they would just do shows in pvt.. I have yet to even find one guy who was legit about a Skype show to begin with.. timewasters!.. if that is the case then Cam4 needs to work on their cam2cam game... so these guys can enjoy a pvt on the site.
Because they want two-way audio & video so you can see and hear them. Two-way interaction is more intense for them. They probably don't trust sending their video over the site thinking it'll be recorded by Cam4, since there's no distinction between a model and customer account. I think it's not a coincidence that on sites where there's a distinction between model and customer accounts (Streamate), you'll see a lot fewer Skype requests.
I'm not even sure if it's allowed, but I think it's discouraged at the minimum. If you do them, you have be clear about selling them for tokens to stay within the rules.