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Tsani
07-15-2016, 06:57 AM
I'm not even sure if it's allowed, but I think it's discouraged at the minimum. If you do them, you have be clear about selling them for tokens to stay within the rules.

It's allowed to take skype shows for tokens on cam4 but they've stated in the past that they discourage it because they can't verify that the show was done, therefore the customer can easily request a refund.


if that is the case then Cam4 needs to work on their cam2cam game... so these guys can enjoy a pvt on the site.

I agree, but that would require them to start distinguishing between model and customer accounts and Cam4 has always refused that when it's been brought up in the past.

It started out as an exhibitionist site with no money or tokens exchanged and that's where a lot of their original traffic came from. I get the impression that they don't want to further alienate their original customer base by making it harder for them to get free stuff.

anonymous camgirl
07-15-2016, 08:04 AM
OIC.. well fuck them then.. no Skype shows for them... NO One gets a refund from me haha


It's allowed to take skype shows for tokens on cam4 but they've stated in the past that they discourage it because they can't verify that the show was done, therefore the customer can easily request a refund.



I agree, but that would require them to start distinguishing between model and customer accounts and Cam4 has always refused that when it's been brought up in the past.

It started out as an exhibitionist site with no money or tokens exchanged and that's where a lot of their original traffic came from. I get the impression that they don't want to further alienate their original customer base by making it harder for them to get free stuff.

LadyCoco
07-17-2016, 11:10 AM
I was looking at cams and there was this girl not taking tokens. Wtf? No I wonder if she was underage since they don't verify your age unless you're making money on their site. That makes me uncomfortable.

Kim - Cam4
08-04-2016, 10:25 PM
I was looking at cams and there was this girl not taking tokens. Wtf? No I wonder if she was underage since they don't verify your age unless you're making money on their site. That makes me uncomfortable.

Oh no hon, every single person that goes on cam to perform is seen by a member of my team. If we believe you to be underage, you are booted and an id is requested. We take age checks very serious.

Kim - Cam4
08-04-2016, 10:27 PM
I know a lot of you are North American performers and in the past many of our contests were from other regions. We just held our first "Earn to Win" contest for our North American performers only! I hope to see some of you take part in our next one.

http://blog.cam4.com/contests/congratulations-to-our-earn-to-win-leaders/

Kim - Cam4
08-04-2016, 10:37 PM
Now I can't find the post, but someone asked about creating a private room; it's very easy.

When you are logged in to broadcast, click the cog wheel in the upper right of the screen. In the menu at the bottom you will see "Go Private". Choose that option and then in the box that comes up, set the password and choose those that you wish to go private with by ticking the box by their name. It will boot everyone else from the room as it goes private and only those with the password will be permitted to enter.

You can also choose at the time you are making the room private not to have it display in the directory, to allow your friends to join automatically or even allow all of one gender type to join.

Let me know if you still have some questions.

Kim - Cam4
08-04-2016, 10:40 PM
Oh, and by the way, we do offer tippers the ability to request a cam2cam show with you when they request a private show - all they have to do is tick that option. It's no additional charge for them, only the pay per minute rate.

LadyCoco
08-05-2016, 02:45 PM
Now I can't find the post, but someone asked about creating a private room; it's very easy.

When you are logged in to broadcast, click the cog wheel in the upper right of the screen. In the menu at the bottom you will see "Go Private". Choose that option and then in the box that comes up, set the password and choose those that you wish to go private with by ticking the box by their name. It will boot everyone else from the room as it goes private and only those with the password will be permitted to enter.

You can also choose at the time you are making the room private not to have it display in the directory, to allow your friends to join automatically or even allow all of one gender type to join.

Let me know if you still have some questions.

I think that was me haha. You don't need to be a VIP member to use that feature then?

Kim - Cam4
08-05-2016, 07:48 PM
I think that was me haha. You don't need to be a VIP member to use that feature then?

Yes, but I believe you are hon. Check and let me know, ok?

LadyCoco
08-09-2016, 02:15 PM
Yes, but I believe you are hon. Check and let me know, ok?

I think you have the wrong member. I'm not LadyCoco on there. I returned under a different name and I haven't signed up for VIP yet.

Kim - Cam4
08-15-2016, 11:13 AM
I think you have the wrong member. I'm not LadyCoco on there. I returned under a different name and I haven't signed up for VIP yet.

*chuckles*.. yes, that is who I thought you were. Well please let me know, I'd be happy to help any way I can hon.

webcambabe
08-31-2016, 01:41 PM
Hey, is cam4 any worth a try? how many % do you get of your earnings? good traffic? do they have payoneer?

Kim - Cam4
08-31-2016, 03:42 PM
Hey, is cam4 any worth a try? how many % do you get of your earnings? good traffic? do they have payoneer?

Hello Webcambabe - We have hundreds of thousands of visitors a day. I'm sure the girls will tell you that there are beggars you need to learn to ignore but we give you some chat options such as allowing on those with gold memberships, tokens or your friends to chat with you. We do not keep a percentage of your earnings, what you are tipped is what you keep and cash out. As for Payoneer, yes, we offer both their Master Card and Local Bank Transfer.

webcambabe
08-31-2016, 08:18 PM
Hello Webcambabe - We have hundreds of thousands of visitors a day. I'm sure the girls will tell you that there are beggars you need to learn to ignore but we give you some chat options such as allowing on those with gold memberships, tokens or your friends to chat with you. We do not keep a percentage of your earnings, what you are tipped is what you keep and cash out. As for Payoneer, yes, we offer both their Master Card and Local Bank Transfer.

Hey! Thank you for answering. I saw that 10 tokens equal 1$?

Kim - Cam4
08-31-2016, 08:29 PM
Hey! Thank you for answering. I saw that 10 tokens equal 1$?

Yes, tokens are worth .10 a piece meaning 10 tokens = $1.00

webcambabe
09-01-2016, 11:28 AM
Yes, tokens are worth .10 a piece meaning 10 tokens = $1.00

Thank you. Another question: is there any toy that is prohibit ? I have tail butt plugs (not real fur) and I can't use them in some cam sites.

Kim - Cam4
09-01-2016, 01:33 PM
Thank you. Another question: is there any toy that is prohibit ? I have tail butt plugs (not real fur) and I can't use them in some cam sites.

No hon, no toy limitations at all.

LizzyMe
09-04-2016, 03:38 PM
Does Cam4 send out 1099 to their cam models that live in the United States?

Kim - Cam4
09-04-2016, 07:20 PM
Does Cam4 send out 1099 to their cam models that live in the United States?

Hello Lizzy, no we do not as you are not an employee of Cam4. We do provide you with an annual record of your earnings within your Account so you can print those out for tax purposes.

LizzyMe
09-04-2016, 07:39 PM
Hello Kim,

Independent contractors do receive 1099 from some cam sites. Some of the big box sites do send them out. Are you based in the U.S.? If not, maybe that's why Cam4 is not required to send them out. Employees of a company get W2, but the adult industry is just comprised of Independent contractors and we get 1099. :)

Kim - Cam4
09-04-2016, 08:01 PM
Hello Lizzy,

You are correct US based companies are required to supply 1099's. Cam4 (Surecom Corporation, NV) is a company based in Curacao, the Netherlands Antilles and is a foreign corporation.

Ashalicious
09-09-2016, 10:09 AM
I was looking at cams and there was this girl not taking tokens. Wtf? No I wonder if she was underage since they don't verify your age unless you're making money on their site. That makes me uncomfortable.

She was probably split caming with another site if she wasn't taking cam4 tokens, but was still getting naked/doing a show type thing.

Many of the girls who you see doing for free are often split caming with other cam sites.

Kim - Cam4
09-09-2016, 10:44 AM
She was probably split caming with another site if she wasn't taking cam4 tokens, but was still getting naked/doing a show type thing.

Many of the girls who you see doing for free are often split caming with other cam sites.

I missed LadyCocos' comment so thank you Ashalicious for posting.

LadyCoco, I can assure you that every person that clicks on broadcast is viewed by a member of my team. If we believe them to be underage, or even borderline, they are removed and an age check is done. We have 0 tolerance for anyone being on cam that is not of age.

At any time you feel someone looks young, always feel free to private me here or DM me in twitter.

Dorami
10-07-2016, 11:58 AM
URGENT QUESTION! I don't live alone and sometimes I have to mute my cam quickly, does anyone know how to do this? a screenshot of where to click or something? thank you

Kim - Cam4
10-07-2016, 12:12 PM
URGENT QUESTION! I don't live alone and sometimes I have to mute my cam quickly, does anyone know how to do this? a screenshot of where to click or something? thank you

If you have hover your mouse above the area where you see the game center/private show buttons you will see the sound icons. You should able to click on the "sound" (horn) icon and mute that.

Dorami
10-07-2016, 12:30 PM
If you have hover your mouse above the area where you see the game center/private show buttons you will see the sound icons. You should able to click on the "sound" (horn) icon and mute that.

Thanks!

Kim - Cam4
10-07-2016, 12:32 PM
Thanks!

You're welcome..

Dorami
10-07-2016, 02:12 PM
You're welcome..

Also, I got tipped earlier and they aren't showing in my account, is there some kind of scam going on with fake tips? they looked quite real

edit: they took a while to get on my account nvm it's fine

Kim - Cam4
10-07-2016, 04:54 PM
Also, I got tipped earlier and they aren't showing in my account, is there some kind of scam going on with fake tips? they looked quite real

edit: they took a while to get on my account nvm it's fine

Good, I'm glad to hear everything is alright and feel free to contact me at any time.

Have good weekend!

Kim

Dorami
10-08-2016, 02:21 AM
Good, I'm glad to hear everything is alright and feel free to contact me at any time.

Have good weekend!

Kim

Thank you for helping! I have another question. My ID picture is kinda old so I have a different hairstyle, I havent been approved yet but I already broadcasted and when I go to my cam4bucks page it says I have to broadcast more so you guys can compare me to my ID submission. Is there a way to prove it is me quicker?

Kim - Cam4
10-08-2016, 07:22 AM
Thank you for helping! I have another question. My ID picture is kinda old so I have a different hairstyle, I havent been approved yet but I already broadcasted and when I go to my cam4bucks page it says I have to broadcast more so you guys can compare me to my ID submission. Is there a way to prove it is me quicker?

Can you write to me at [email protected] and give me your user name hon so I can pull up the documents and review?

Dorami
10-10-2016, 01:55 PM
what's the difference between available and reserved earnings?

Kim - Cam4
10-10-2016, 02:17 PM
what's the difference between available and reserved earnings?



This is a breakdown of each line in your REQUEST PAYMENT area in Cam4bucks.

Total Earnings: Available earnings plus your reserved earnings combined.

3 Day Reserve: Cam4 holds earnings for 3 days to allow accounting to complete processing.

Amount Owed: An amount owed will show if your earnings go into the negative. This can happen if tokens that were credited to your account and later a refund is issued.

Available Earnings: Requesting payment is made using the amount available on this line. Remember, there is a minimum of $50.00 needed to cash out ($100 for wires) unless you are cashing your tips for tokens.

Lifetime earnings: Total earnings for the lifetime of the account.

Dorami
10-10-2016, 02:23 PM
This is a breakdown of each line in your REQUEST PAYMENT area in Cam4bucks.

Total Earnings: Available earnings plus your reserved earnings combined.

3 Day Reserve: Cam4 holds earnings for 3 days to allow accounting to complete processing.

Amount Owed: An amount owed will show if your earnings go into the negative. This can happen if tokens that were credited to your account and later a refund is issued.

Available Earnings: Requesting payment is made using the amount available on this line. Remember, there is a minimum of $50.00 needed to cash out ($100 for wires) unless you are cashing your tips for tokens.

Lifetime earnings: Total earnings for the lifetime of the account.

thank you! so when they are available i can request a payment at any time?

Kim - Cam4
10-10-2016, 02:33 PM
Yes, absolutely..

Dorami
10-13-2016, 08:06 AM
This is no way me ranting about the site itself, I'm loving my first week so far. This is more of a rant about the costumers and freeloaders there.
1) The fact that normal users can have profile pictures and 99% of them (no joke) are dick pics. When I'm in my own room all I see is dick pics in their avatars when they speak and it just gets really old.
2) I used to work on chaturbate, where I had mostly international people in my room, on cam4 I have mostly people from my country speaking my language, which makes the more sexual things they say, so cringy.
3) Related with number 2, since it's mostly people from my country, they are always asking me if I escort, I get that question more than 50 times per session, it's probably the most annoying thing. It's like just because we're from the same country they think they have a chance or to fuck me in real life or to even date/marry me. SO F*CKING ANNOYING.
4) They always ask for paypal. Stop.
5) There's like a small "community" from my country there, full of drama. They come in my room talking with each other like they're at the cafe or at the bar or even speak about other models from my country. I don't care. Pay me or gtfo.

On a good note, I feel like I make way more money and way less time than I did on chaturbate and when I need help the moderators are great and really helpful!

Sally Says
10-13-2016, 08:23 AM
dick pics are a no for me, theres no way i could work in that environment

Dorami
10-13-2016, 08:36 AM
dick pics are a no for me, theres no way i could work in that environment

I think there should be a way to disable their avatars in chat or something, so you wouldn't have to look at it.

Ashalicious
10-13-2016, 09:30 AM
This is no way me ranting about the site itself, I'm loving my first week so far. This is more of a rant about the costumers and freeloaders there.
1) The fact that normal users can have profile pictures and 99% of them (no joke) are dick pics. When I'm in my own room all I see is dick pics in their avatars when they speak and it just gets really old.
2) I used to work on chaturbate, where I had mostly international people in my room, on cam4 I have mostly people from my country speaking my language, which makes the more sexual things they say, so cringy.
3) Related with number 2, since it's mostly people from my country, they are always asking me if I escort, I get that question more than 50 times per session, it's probably the most annoying thing. It's like just because we're from the same country they think they have a chance or to fuck me in real life or to even date/marry me. SO F*CKING ANNOYING.
4) They always ask for paypal. Stop.
5) There's like a small "community" from my country there, full of drama. They come in my room talking with each other like they're at the cafe or at the bar or even speak about other models from my country. I don't care. Pay me or gtfo.

On a good note, I feel like I make way more money and way less time than I did on chaturbate and when I need help the moderators are great and really helpful!

Have you filled out your sex survey/questionnaire on there? There is a part that asks you what your turn offs are. I'd fill it out and write a blurb about how sex with strangers is a HUGE turn off for you and to please not ask if you escort, because you don't. Some people will read it and get the idea. Or, alternatively, you could make a note about it on your profile. People should get the hint after a few weeks.

The coffee shop atmosphere CAN get annoying as well. It's like, HEY, THIS IS MY SHOW. TALK ABOUT ME. If there is one person who tends to initiate the coffee shop banter, and he hasn't tipped you, then you might want to consider silencing him. I've had to do that before in my room, and you know what, it made a big difference.

It may also help to find a mod that you trust. A good mod can help keep the attention of the room towards YOU.......

Dorami
10-13-2016, 12:33 PM
Have you filled out your sex survey/questionnaire on there? There is a part that asks you what your turn offs are. I'd fill it out and write a blurb about how sex with strangers is a HUGE turn off for you and to please not ask if you escort, because you don't. Some people will read it and get the idea. Or, alternatively, you could make a note about it on your profile. People should get the hint after a few weeks.

The coffee shop atmosphere CAN get annoying as well. It's like, HEY, THIS IS MY SHOW. TALK ABOUT ME. If there is one person who tends to initiate the coffee shop banter, and he hasn't tipped you, then you might want to consider silencing him. I've had to do that before in my room, and you know what, it made a big difference.

It may also help to find a mod that you trust. A good mod can help keep the attention of the room towards YOU.......

I have written on my profile that I don't do real and what not, but you know how people are, reading takes too much time, it's easier being annoying in chat and asking the same questions 1000 times.
I'm thinking about changing my location there to the US or UK in hope of those people with the dramatic attitudes leaving.

Bristol
10-13-2016, 04:29 PM
4) They always ask for paypal. Stop.

That's the most annoying thing about Cam4. I don't get PayPal requests on any other site nearly as frequently as on Cam4. For every ten Cam4 users asking for PayPal, maybe one will ask on other sites.



5) There's like a small "community" from my country there, full of drama. They come in my room talking with each other like they're at the cafe or at the bar or even speak about other models from my country. I don't care. Pay me or gtfo.

The second they mention another model's name, I silence them. If a male advertises his cam, I silence. If a female advertises her cam, I ban. The moment a fight breaks out, I bounce them. If a user starts complimenting another user in my room, I silence. I silence or bounce for anything that detracts the attention away from me or distracts tippers. My attitude is it's my room and the focus is always about me, because I'm doing this to pay the rent. Users messing around in my room is literally taking money out of my hands.

By the way, I turn off users with no tokens. I worked the site a year before I found out I could do that. You can turn off no-token grays on Chaturbate also. For both sites, it's a setting in the gear icon in the chatroom app (upper right corner). That one option cuts out 95% of the BS.



On a good note, I feel like I make way more money and way less time than I did on chaturbate and when I need help the moderators are great and really helpful!

I always make way more on Chaturbate. I would never be able survive on Cam4 alone, but I could on Chaturbate. I hardly ever get tips on Cam4. The money I do earn on Cam4 is in privates, which I do not get every shift. Most Cam4 shifts yield between $0 and $5 for me so I have no alternative not to splitcam the site.

jasmine22
10-13-2016, 05:48 PM
I hated how every other guy would ask for skype shows. for some reason a lot of customers dislike the private shows on thwre

Ashalicious
10-13-2016, 07:02 PM
I have written on my profile that I don't do real and what not, but you know how people are, reading takes too much time, it's easier being annoying in chat and asking the same questions 1000 times.
I'm thinking about changing my location there to the US or UK in hope of those people with the dramatic attitudes leaving.

I think changing your location to US or UK is an excellent idea. Just make sure you are familiar with the area you change it to. When I first started camming, I said I was in NY, and I got very embarrassed because people asked me all of these questions about NY that I couldn't answer.

Dorami
10-14-2016, 03:34 AM
That's the most annoying thing about Cam4. I don't get PayPal requests on any other site nearly as frequently as on Cam4. For every ten Cam4 users asking for PayPal, maybe one will ask on other sites.



The second they mention another model's name, I silence them. If a male advertises his cam, I silence. If a female advertises her cam, I ban. The moment a fight breaks out, I bounce them. If a user starts complimenting another user in my room, I silence. I silence or bounce for anything that detracts the attention away from me or distracts tippers. My attitude is it's my room and the focus is always about me, because I'm doing this to pay the rent. Users messing around in my room is literally taking money out of my hands.

By the way, I turn off users with no tokens. I worked the site a year before I found out I could do that. You can turn off no-token grays on Chaturbate also. For both sites, it's a setting in the gear icon in the chatroom app (upper right corner). That one option cuts out 95% of the BS.



I always make way more on Chaturbate. I would never be able survive on Cam4 alone, but I could on Chaturbate. I hardly ever get tips on Cam4. The money I do earn on Cam4 is in privates, which I do not get every shift. Most Cam4 shifts yield between $0 and $5 for me so I have no alternative not to splitcam the site.

I ban a lot of them. And I'll have to find that silence people without tokens option so I don't get annoyed every 5 seconds. I was the worst on chaturbate. There was a month that actually went really well, but most of the time I would struggle to even make 500 tokens in 6 hours or more. It was the worst. Something that I get a lot on cam4 is skype shows, which is pretty good since freeloaders don't see anything at all most times.

anonymous camgirl
10-14-2016, 08:33 AM
Skype uggh.. all the Skype requests.. I started to indulge them and said make me an offer.. it's always something ridiculous like 50 cents per minute.. just fuck off!.. I hate token sites in general.. they aren't to interested in pvts.. and their cheapness.. these guys.

Dorami
10-14-2016, 12:24 PM
Update: found out that you can disable their avatars in chat, so no more dick pics for me woohoo

Dorami
11-05-2016, 04:25 PM
I've been working on cam4 for 1 month now I believe, and like I've mentioned on another thread, I've never been so disrespected in a cam site like I'm on this one.
They say there are things against the rules like recording models and asking for paypal and what not, and I've reported multiple people for doing so, even for threatening me, insults and more disgusting things. They always say for me to use the chat filters (ban, silence etc), the problem is that these people keep making new accounts to keep on harassing me.
I know they could IP ban said people but they refuse to do so even after I asked them because they say it is "no use" and that I should just keep on using the chat filters. The thing is, why do I need to ban the same people 50 times when it could be taken care of by the site moderators?
Do they even care about their models safety or well being? I don't think so.

Selenasecret
11-05-2016, 05:10 PM
Vpns gives them a new ip. Reboot your router get a new ip

Banning email to account holder is better as most require mobile number verification these days and dont allow unlimted uses

Snowy0Star
11-05-2016, 05:45 PM
Vpns gives them a new ip. Reboot your router get a new ip

Banning email to account holder is better as most require mobile number verification these days and dont allow unlimted uses

if they wanted to they could find the base IP and block it CB does this if theres a user who keeps making the same names with different numbers and shit after it CB can find their base IP and block the user from the models room so even if they make a new IP its not going to work and he wont get it CAM 4 just doesnt give a shit to go that far

Dorami
11-06-2016, 02:45 AM
if they wanted to they could find the base IP and block it CB does this if theres a user who keeps making the same names with different numbers and shit after it CB can find their base IP and block the user from the models room so even if they make a new IP its not going to work and he wont get it CAM 4 just doesnt give a shit to go that far
This user in question kept making the same username just with different numbers so I know it was the same one. He kept coming back saying he was gonna record me and post it on youtube/Facebook whatever else and obviously insulting me none stop. I know chaturbate does IP ban because I've seen it before. I doubt this person was even a big tipper or something because from personal experience I know the ones who actually tip don't have that shitty behavior. They're more worried about buying shows than making new accounts to harass someone.