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Kim - Cam4
02-28-2018, 06:47 AM
Hi Kim!
I am new on Cam4 and members are very slow to part with tokens I've noticed.
Then I checked out token prices and saw that Cam4 charges roughly TWICE as much as other token sites - and it began to make sense why guys are less liberal about tipping. Any insight as to why Cam4 tokens are so expensive vs competitors?
Thank you :)
Hello Princess! Welcome to CAM4!
Great question by the way. Most websites pay their models .05 per token made, we pay you .10 per token so 100 tokens = $10.00. So while it may cost them a bit more, you as a model earn more.
Would you mind sending me a private message or email and let me know where you are located? My email is
[email protected]
If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
Have an awesome day!
Harlo
03-09-2018, 03:02 AM
When will cam4 support split camming? I know I along with many other models are waiting for the ok on that one.
Kim - Cam4
03-09-2018, 07:12 AM
When will cam4 support split camming? I know I along with many other models are waiting for the ok on that one.
Hello Harlo!
Many performers on CAM4 already split-cam, although it's not something we encourage as not all models can watch several screens at once and provide a good show to everyone. Some tippers will even request a refund if they feel they're being ignored. Then there are some models that can pull it off quite well and those viewing are not aware.
The other issue you have are models that do not have the connection speed to support split-camming. We often find a model will blame the site for lag, etc when in fact they have several windows open, skype, and other programs that simply drain their resources.
I hope that answers your question Harlo and it's nice to meet you!
Kim
Snowy0Star
03-09-2018, 12:45 PM
I think Harlo is referring to the fact that IIRC the broadcaster doesnt pick up cam spltter softwear . witch is one of the big reasons i left on top of the fact that ur viewers simply do not tip at all i have $4 sitting in my account that it took two weeks to get. Everyone on there just wants you to PM with them for free or give you their kik for free and give them free Skype Shows . IMO ur site has huge issues with its users respecting the fact this is our job and we need to be compensated for our efforts and performances . Ive been camming for 6 years i have never been on a site with a huge portion of broke entitled jack asses then Cam 4 .
If your going to look down on split camming then you need to have a site that has the PAYING customerts to back it up and it so we dont need to/ want to. When you have a site thats full of dudes refusing to pay for anything and want everything for free and cearly dont respect your performers enuf to want to support them you cant expect us to solely work cam 4 - when i realized ur broadcasting interface did not pick up/ support split softwear if it wasnt for the fact that i have 3 webcams i wouldnt have even tired ur site in all honesty .
anonymous camgirl
03-09-2018, 01:08 PM
The reason why the camming culture is the way it is on this site, is because it was created just for a free camming community.. mutual masturbation with horny nympho people.. I think when they started it , there was no monetary options.. I could be wrong.. but I believe that is the history of this site.. so now it's being monetized more , most guys are still just freeloaders or who want shows for pennies.
I think Harlo is referring to the fact that IIRC the broadcaster doesnt pick up cam spltter softwear . witch is one of the big reasons i left on top of the fact that ur viwers simply do not tip at all i have $4 sitting in my account that it took two weeks to get. Everyone on there just wants you to PM with them for free or give you their kik for free and give them freee Skype Shows . IMO ur site has huge issues with its custers respecting the fact this is our job and we need to be compensated for our efforts and performances . Ive been camming for 6 years i have never been on a site with a huge portion of broke entitled jack asses then Cam 4 .
If your going to look down on split camming then you need to have a site that has the PAYING customerts to back it up and it so we dont need to/ want to. When you have a site thats full of dudes refusing to pay for anything and want everything for free and cearly dont respect your performers enuf to want to support them you cant expect us to solely work cam 4 - when i realized ur broadcasting interface did not pick up/ support split softwear if it wasnt for the fact that i have 3 webcams i wouldnt have even tired ur site in all honesty .
SadistPrincess
03-13-2018, 09:14 PM
Is that why there are so many damn FREELOADING wankers on this fucking site? It is sooo irritating, the member community on this site is seriously the worst I have ever seen. No one wants to pay for anything. Making money is extremely difficult on here. I've even been watching a lot of the coaching vids and sessions and implementing stuff and none of it is making any difference... no one wants to even throw a few tokens for anything. I have the same freeloaders in the room night after night and they never buy tokens. Terrible guys on here.
anonymous camgirl
03-14-2018, 10:53 AM
I have been having better luck these days, not much but better.. I just post in that white box on the bottom. ( what's that called?) my tipping rates .. which are large.. just lke other sites.. and I play the roll the dice game.. which they barely play haha.. but my rates I ask for is.. 50 for tits, 20 to stand, 20 for feet.. 30 for ass.. real money!.. not this penny bullshit they like to pull.. maybe just get firm and tough.. if they even so much as ask for Skype I ask no less than 40 tokens per min.. that usually shuts them down.. I have had several who really want me and will take me to pvt for 24 per min.. I refuse to sit in the free chat naked.. I am not making any sorta bank? to give you idea for the times I have been online .. I made $60 in 10 days ...lol
Is that why there are so many damn FREELOADING wankers on this fucking site? It is sooo irritating, the member community on this site is seriously the worst I have ever seen. No one wants to pay for anything. Making money is extremely difficult on here. I've even been watching a lot of the coaching vids and sessions and implementing stuff and none of it is making any difference... no one wants to even throw a few tokens for anything. I have the same freeloaders in the room night after night and they never buy tokens. Terrible guys on here.
TheBrownFox
03-14-2018, 12:14 PM
my rates I ask for is.. 50 for tits, 20 to stand, 20 for feet.. 30 for ass.. real money!.. not this penny bullshit they like to pull..l
Oh, so they pull that shit on Cam4 too? The 1-token tip thing is common for me on Chaturbate, and it drives me nuts. I stopped putting a topless goal up, because what's the point if dudes are gonna just tip me 1 token along with "PM bb." Smh.
anonymous camgirl
03-14-2018, 12:42 PM
No it's worse!.. they ask for 10 min shows for 5 tokens haha
Oh, so they pull that shit on Cam4 too? The 1-token tip thing is common for me on Chaturbate, and it drives me nuts. I stopped putting a topless goal up, because what's the point if dudes are gonna just tip me 1 token along with "PM bb." Smh.
SadistPrincess
03-15-2018, 01:06 AM
The fucking audacity of these people. I had a guy on yesterday say "why can't you change your pvt rate to 6 tks?"
Really?? 60 fucking cents per minute?? Fuck you asswipe.
I'll try playing with the dice roll rates (which yeah... almost no one does...)
Mine are only 10, so I suppose if only a few guys are gonna do it anyway, they might as well pay up. Since the whole damn room then gets to watch
anonymous camgirl
03-15-2018, 05:30 AM
The fucking audacity of these people. I had a guy on yesterday say "why can't you change your pvt rate to 6 tks?"
Really?? 60 fucking cents per minute?? Fuck you asswipe.
I'll try playing with the dice roll rates (which yeah... almost no one does...)
Mine are only 10, so I suppose if only a few guys are gonna do it anyway, they might as well pay up. Since the whole damn room then gets to watch
Yes, it's pretty standard guys asking for shows for 6 tokens per min.. that's the cheapest rate i think haha
Subslutsuzy
07-08-2018, 09:13 AM
The fucking audacity of these people. I had a guy on yesterday say "why can't you change your pvt rate to 6 tks?"
Really?? 60 fucking cents per minute?? Fuck you asswipe.
I'll try playing with the dice roll rates (which yeah... almost no one does...)
Mine are only 10, so I suppose if only a few guys are gonna do it anyway, they might as well pay up. Since the whole damn room then gets to watch
I just change it and tell them to come in. When they do, i just sit there and do nothing but talk. If after a minute they say : show boobs or something like that, i just say : not for 0.6 cents per minute. They won't try again in my room lol. (learned that from another model haha)
Subslutsuzy
07-08-2018, 09:44 AM
Good morning lovely ladies!
@Anonymous Camgirl - the feature to pause is not currently available but it's coming soon! It's one feature that we've had a lot of requests for so it's being created.
"I have to set my private rates and set a new topic EVERYTIME I get a show on another site."
Your status bar should stay the same or when you refer to "topic" are you referring to something else?
@Bristol - thank you for this information, I will be passing this along to the tech's so they can investigate.
@LadyCoco - I will look into this. I believe we had an issue of harassment and that was being used by not in reference to tokens.
@Femmestudent - Great job!
I know the site can be difficult to work so when I hear this I like to suggest selling blocks of time and using the password protected private room. This allows you to sell blocks of time for one or more people. Some girls find this is the best way for them to work and earn more.
Also, for those not aware, we now have VR shows. If any of you are interested in performing as a VR model please send me an email (
[email protected]) and I'll point you in the right direction to get further information.
Have a great Sunday!
hello Kim,
Is this 'pauze' button working now ? I can't find it anywhere.
also another thing : when u come out off a private show, the countdown to get back in public show is going way to quickly to get back dressed. I always have to run from my screen to get dressed or they see me naked for free lol. Can't this be changed to a few seconds longer ?
Kim - Cam4
07-10-2018, 12:08 PM
hello Kim,
Is this 'pauze' button working now ? I can't find it anywhere.
also another thing : when u come out off a private show, the countdown to get back in public show is going way to quickly to get back dressed. I always have to run from my screen to get dressed or they see me naked for free lol. Can't this be changed to a few seconds longer ?
Hello Suzy..
I do know that a pause feature is in the works. I just sent a note to one of our Product Team guys asking for an ETA update. I will let you know as soon as I hear back!
Kim
Kim - Cam4
07-10-2018, 01:29 PM
Hello Suzy..
I do know that a pause feature is in the works. I just sent a note to one of our Product Team guys asking for an ETA update. I will let you know as soon as I hear back!
Kim
Ok, he said it will probably be about another 2-3 weeks. For the privates you will be able to set your own time to return. So stay tuned!
Kaylan
07-22-2018, 02:46 AM
So much for doing a payed show at cam4, they promised too pay me 50 dollar for a 1 hour show, which I did. After the show they all the sudden changed the rules and refuse to pay me. But when you report people for smoking drugs, having kids on cam or animals while performing sexual acts they don't do fuck. Bunch of scammers for sure
Kim - Cam4
07-22-2018, 07:06 AM
Hello Kaylan,
Who promised to pay you $50.00; a tipper?
If you have other questions or problems, you are welcome to email me at any time:
[email protected]
Thanks,
Kim
Kaylan
07-22-2018, 08:16 AM
nop you guys did, i have send you an email
Kim - Cam4
07-22-2018, 09:45 AM
Thank you for sending me the information Kaylan..
Kaylan
07-23-2018, 12:18 PM
Thank you so much for helping me out Kim, much appreciated. Problem solved
Kim - Cam4
07-23-2018, 01:06 PM
You are more than welcome hon.. any time!
DonaDiabla
08-22-2018, 08:51 AM
Can you upload videos to your Cam4 fanclub? Thanks! Also, how much does one usually charge there for skype shows? :)
Kim - Cam4
08-22-2018, 09:33 AM
Hello Dona,
If you are a 2257 approved performer you can upload your videos to your MyShop area. You can select one price for members and another for your fans.. we give you the option to either charge them a reduced rate or you can make it free.
As for skype, I would suggest not using skype for your shows. We are currently having talks about disallowing skype, but no final decision has been made yet. You also run a higher risk of being recorded/scammed in skype. Best to start out by having a menu in your bio along with a list of do/dont rules for your room.
Let me know if you have any other questions hon.. and above all else, have fun!
Kim
MsConstrued
11-25-2018, 06:08 AM
Hey Kim,
I recently signed up for Cam4 after seeing them at Exxxotica in NJ. I cammed and made payout, but for some reason when I went to request payout it was canceled due to a 'legitimacy check'. I've emailed support and am waiting to hear back but wanted to check in here, too. Is this something happening often? I don't want to cam on a site where I cannot get my earnings. It's not worth my time/effort.
Kim - Cam4
11-25-2018, 09:41 AM
Good morning MsConstrued -
A legitimacy check means that something from the time you broadcast to when you requested payment, changed. It's actually a measure in place to keep your funds safe. What we suggest is that you log in, broadcast and then click on the cogwheel in the upper right corner of your screen and then click on CAM4bucks. That will keep your ip, etc the same and allow payment to be successful.
Did you make a new request?
I can also tell you that the payout area will soon be changing and you will be requesting payouts on CAM4.com. This will stop the need for logging into two different areas.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to contact me at
[email protected]
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!
Kim
Hey Kim,
I recently signed up for Cam4 after seeing them at Exxxotica in NJ. I cammed and made payout, but for some reason when I went to request payout it was canceled due to a 'legitimacy check'. I've emailed support and am waiting to hear back but wanted to check in here, too. Is this something happening often? I don't want to cam on a site where I cannot get my earnings. It's not worth my time/effort.
eveas
12-06-2018, 06:26 PM
Hi Kim
I sent you an email, so please!!!! reply to it to the email from which I sent it...
About a week ago you banned the profile that I use on your page due to the total idiot guy, who was supposed to have a skype show wioth me - after I was on skype with him (he didnt send any tokens yet ) , I refused to have a show with him, told to him: there wil be no show sorry, I got some friend comin over... and I even wasnt on skyp after that..
tho the guy (i dont know wat he didnt understand ) returned to ur page where i was online and I did remove him from there - didnt ban him yet, i didnt want to deal with him after I refused to skype with him... tho he returned agan, gets removed etc etc.. tho, he tipped obviously some PRIVATE TIP , which I didnt know - as theres not realy notification for a private tip - though he sent 10tips normally - though I did remove him even then cuz I wasnt even on that skype and tipping was his problem (tho private tip was more - I didnt know... then he went to ask the support, obviously it was like somme kind of a fraud - cuz he tips n gets removed... admin picked me up, asked me a question n my internet went off of course...
PLease, there is about 290 usd of unsent earnings, which I really want - I will not loose this cuz of that guy ..
please reply to my email Kim
thank you
Kim - Cam4
12-07-2018, 08:38 AM
Hello Eve,
Your email was responded to.
Thanks,
Kim
Subslutsuzy
01-17-2019, 07:24 AM
Last year the pauze-button was comming , any news yet ? Also I see girls saying that skype isnt allowed anymore on cam4 (for tokens off course). True or not ? thanks
Kim - Cam4
01-17-2019, 04:47 PM
Last year the pauze-button was comming , any news yet ? Also I see girls saying that skype isnt allowed anymore on cam4 (for tokens off course). True or not ? thanks
Hello Suzy!
I'm not sure where they are at with the pause button, but i've put in a request for an update. As soon as I hear back I will let you know.
As for Skype, yes, we are giving thought to doing that. Skype is not a good thing for a model, at least not in my opinion. Working on this side, I hear the horror stories of Skype and I think it's far safer to use the site. I always tell models to think of the site as a condom, we are that barrier between you and the other person and that keeps you safe.
Do you do a lot of CAM2CAM's Suzy?
Subslutsuzy
01-18-2019, 04:25 AM
Hello Suzy!
I'm not sure where they are at with the pause button, but i've put in a request for an update. As soon as I hear back I will let you know.
As for Skype, yes, we are giving thought to doing that. Skype is not a good thing for a model, at least not in my opinion. Working on this side, I hear the horror stories of Skype and I think it's far safer to use the site. I always tell models to think of the site as a condom, we are that barrier between you and the other person and that keeps you safe.
Do you do a lot of CAM2CAM's Suzy?
Ok. For me, it would be a shame, because I have big customers who are only willing to do skype with tokens, it's more a relaxed atmosphere and often i talk to them a few minutes more, and they appreciate the no-rush on skype. I don't have a clue about what the horror stories are about, probably because my IP number is FAR away from the actual place I live;D. Also these days I only do skype shows with fans I have been doing that with for a long time and are sure to be trusted. Also I always ask for a gift instead of tokens, that way they cant perform chargebacks I understood ? And I have been skyping for years and years with tokens.. It was 1 off the reasons I stay with cam4, because of the possibility..
But will u send a update to every performer in a newsletter please, the day that it is totally forbidden ? I don't want to go to the dutch camcoach for that, I don't trust her OR the dutch administrator, but U know that already ;-) I think that when rules change, they should be communicated in a general newsletter and not presume that everyone saw it in a 'camcoach' session .. Much appreciated !
Kim - Cam4
01-18-2019, 02:58 PM
Ok. For me, it would be a shame, because I have big customers who are only willing to do skype with tokens, it's more a relaxed atmosphere and often i talk to them a few minutes more, and they appreciate the no-rush on skype. I don't have a clue about what the horror stories are about, probably because my IP number is FAR away from the actual place I live;D. Also these days I only do skype shows with fans I have been doing that with for a long time and are sure to be trusted. Also I always ask for a gift instead of tokens, that way they cant perform chargebacks I understood ? And I have been skyping for years and years with tokens.. It was 1 off the reasons I stay with cam4, because of the possibility..
But will u send a update to every performer in a newsletter please, the day that it is totally forbidden ? I don't want to go to the dutch camcoach for that, I don't trust her OR the dutch administrator, but U know that already ;-) I think that when rules change, they should be communicated in a general newsletter and not presume that everyone saw it in a 'camcoach' session .. Much appreciated !
Ooo.. Suzy.. would you email me? I would like to run something past you, k?
Kaylan
01-19-2019, 03:52 AM
LOL Suzy, the dutch cam coach is a joke with her lies, I remember she told every Dutch person it was allowed to smoke weed on cam......... Best to stay away from the NL Team as far as possible, cause all they do is screw you over, the German team is pretty cool
Strange
01-21-2019, 01:10 PM
Yup also received a warning for smoking weed because I thought it was allowed. I was so pissed off.
MorganMyers
05-15-2019, 02:36 AM
I just noticed that you guys don't offer payoneer payments anymore? :(
Kim - Cam4
05-15-2019, 05:55 AM
I just noticed that you guys don't offer payoneer payments anymore? :(
Oh no hon.. Payoneer has been gone for a good year or more. They then became FirstChoicePay and that went belly-up.
Depending on your location, that's what will be currently available to you, but we are looking at adding a few more methods within the coming months.
Feel free to write me
[email protected] and let me know your location and I'll help you with what will be best for you.
Have a great day!
MorganMyers
05-15-2019, 06:17 AM
Oh no hon.. Payoneer has been gone for a good year or more. They then became FirstChoicePay and that went belly-up.
Depending on your location, that's what will be currently available to you, but we are looking at adding a few more methods within the coming months.
Feel free to write me
[email protected] and let me know your location and I'll help you with what will be best for you.
Have a great day!
I just noticed what happened to :/
Thanks for the quick reply Kim and see you soon! <3
Kim - Cam4
05-15-2019, 06:26 AM
You're more than welcome hon.. any time!
Sweet_Julia_Loves_Money
05-15-2019, 08:28 PM
Hey, I signed up for Cam4 yesterday and they won't allow me to progress in signing up unless I download the mobile broadcaster. Is that the only way to broadcast on there now? Cuz, if so, I'll have to pass. Can someone maybe link me to the signup for those of us who want to use laptops?
Kim - Cam4
05-15-2019, 09:07 PM
Hello Julia!
You can create your account by going to www.cam4.com and clicking "CREATE FREE ACCOUNT" in the upper right corner of your screen. If that is what you're doing when you have this issue, would you take a screen shot and send it to me at
[email protected] please?
Thanks!
Sweet_Julia_Loves_Money
05-16-2019, 04:04 PM
Hello Julia!
You can create your account by going to www.cam4.com and clicking "CREATE FREE ACCOUNT" in the upper right corner of your screen. If that is what you're doing when you have this issue, would you take a screen shot and send it to me at
[email protected] please?
Thanks!
Will do, just want to make sure I don't have to broadcast from my android phone and its' less than flattering cam lol.
Kim - Cam4
05-16-2019, 04:49 PM
*laughs*.. i totally understand! Good luck and have fun!
Subslutsuzy
09-02-2019, 06:20 AM
well, cam4 finally messed it up for me and managed to have me thinking about quitting that site.
During the years, the dutch administrators messed up a LOT already about the contests. 'forgetting' me several times ( i dont even remember how many times, but at least 4 times) .
So I had to mail them back and forwards, waisting a lot off time and energy, just to get to money i work hard for . And I was ALWAYS right when I said that they forgot me or that they made a mistake in handing over the bonusses. Also this administrator Anna blaimed it on ME, telling me that I don't like it when others win something, witch is soooo not true, I never ever said that. If u win something before me, well then u earned it. But if u win a higher bonus then me, because of a MISTAKE THEY made, yeah off course then i get angry !
Now in August, there was a groupshow contest. On the first day, I got a groupshow starting and a client DURING the show, tipped me a 450 tokens extra. So I emailed the administrator, asking if those tokens also count, or if it's just the tickets that count, because in the past I had won a former groupshow contest in this way (just bye getting a lot off bonuses during the shows) .
She said no, just the tickets count this time, so I got demotivated and didnt bother much more for doing groupshows. I emailed Kim just to be sure about this and only on the LAST day of the contest, i got an email back saying that those extra tokens during the show DO count ! Kim, I love u, u always get things solved on cam4 and u always have the right info, but pleaaase these dutch administrators are SO incompetent, u have no clue how MANY times they made mistakes and then they go blame me, the victime !
Also, the dutch camcoach blocked me from her camcoaching shows, what is that all about ? Do I complain to much ? I just wanted the money that i deserved ! She does a lot of favoritism, i thought that wasnt allowed ? (other camcoaches have been removed because of shit like this)
To top it off : I got the news that a collegue of mine got an invitation for a VIP TOP performers contest in September . I mailed the administrator about this and she said it's for the most loyal performers on cam4 .
Let me tell u : 1. How's that about favoritism ? Those contests should be open for EVERYBODY to have at least give it a try
2. I have been 'loyal' to cam4 since 2013 , on and off sure, cause off health issues, but like this, if i wanted to cam more now on cam4, wich I have since August since my health got better, I wouldnt even get rewarded for even trying to get better ? How exactly does this motivate anybody to be online more on the site ? The top girls are the only ones now that get even more tokens, just because they are at the top . That is just, wow.. (just found out that another very very loyal dutch girl since 2015 didn't recieve the invitation either and she never complains about anything on twitter or elsewhere )
I can't just leave the site like that, cause I have about 25 fans I think, but at the end of september I am having surgery and I will be out for 6 weeks or so. If my fans have gone down mostly bye then, it's bye bye for me after 6 years ! I'm so tired of this constant stress and time and energie i have to always put into this.
Also honestly: the bloody publicity /multiple pop-ups on the site are very enoying . I wouldn't watch it long either as a client. It's a love/hate connection for me with cam4, cause I did meet a lot off great people there.
CamChik
09-23-2019, 08:19 PM
I signed up for this site tonight BEFORE reading the forum thread (my bad) - is it still trash for spenders here?
SadistPrincess
09-23-2019, 09:50 PM
I signed up for this site tonight BEFORE reading the forum thread (my bad) - is it still trash for spenders here? .
Yes.
CamChik
09-24-2019, 08:46 AM
.
Yes.
Well fuck. They have some neat features..... :(
gbjenna
12-03-2019, 09:13 AM
I’m looking for another token site to work alongside Stripchat.
Does this site have new model placement and if so, how long is it for?
Does anyone have any experience with chargebacks?
I emailed them about chargebacks and I don’t have a response (yet) but I saw another model on Reddit complaining about them.
h0ttie
07-23-2020, 09:29 AM
am i doing the math right? the highest we can set our pvt is 120 tokens or 1.20/min ?
h0ttie
07-23-2020, 09:37 AM
am i doing the math right? the highest we can set our pvt is 120 tokens or 1.20/min ?
nvm I think I found an old article or a typo and they are worth .10 and not .01
edit: so this site still doesnt have a pause button or an easy way to stop broadcasting, u have to close the entire window and set everything up again.
StrangerSins
09-27-2020, 01:37 PM
Decided to try this site again after i stopped camming a few years ago.
All I'm still getting is dudes asking for skype shows with paypal and asking for real life sex... no tips! Boring and annoying.
minniesoporno
06-12-2022, 07:20 AM
nvm I think I found an old article or a typo and they are worth .10 and not .01
edit: so this site still doesnt have a pause button or an easy way to stop broadcasting, u have to close the entire window and set everything up again.
They've added a pause button and you can do spy cam private show so you can use this as a direct into private show.
100% commission to you. which is wild to me and daily payout.