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sophiesecrets
06-18-2013, 06:16 PM
shouldnt take her long at all. id give her til tomorrow then email kim if u need to <3 her email is floating around on this thread i think. [email protected] but adriana should holla back soon <3

NaughtyNattie
06-18-2013, 06:19 PM
it took about 2 working days, but I did first contact adriana on the weekend. They did backdate my hourly tho :D

cherryblossomsinspring
06-19-2013, 12:11 PM
My hourly has updated yah!! . I just wish these guys would spend something. I received about 110 tokens yesterday that's it. I didn't spend that much time logged in that day but I'm about to hit the 100 hrs fairly soon.

I watched a girl just now and she's about to hit a 1000 goal so it's doable but she has 273 people watching. She's also been model there since 2010. Still on that same page I just saw a model get on she's fully naked with about 155 people watching, she's asking for 150 tokens and no one is tipping. She logged off after what seemed like 15-20 mins.

^ I wrote this 12 hrs ago and fell asleep lol.

Also I haven't actually sat on there naked hoping for tips yet. I've just waited for guy to tip for removal of clothing or privates.

Ohh and I had another guy pop in asking "why aren't the girls here really talking to me". I had to tell him umm because they're at work and you're not tipping. He's like but.. but.. I'm not asking them to get nude or anything. So I told him why not talk to a guy, they'll have more in common. lol

I find it funny how people assume that "just talking" shouldn't cost them anything when they don't seem to be able to understand how much of a drain that is. The less I talk the more I energy I have left for the people that actually want to spend on me. Plus these "talkers" are not really having a conversation but information digging.

Anyways I started asking people " why are you here?" it seems to cut the bs right off. Surprisingly they are honest with looking for a gf, wife, free play etc. I simply thank them for stopping in. Usually they'll keep typing as if they are going to continue with what they desire so I just ignore them. Once they realized they've hit the cold shoulder they complain for a bit then find another room. Seems to have cut down me feeling drained after my first days of chatting to every single person that said "hi".

Incantatious
06-20-2013, 05:51 AM
Wow, so even when you're #1 on this site, that promises NOTHING, lol.

I stood at first place for quite a bit, (and there was around 200 members difference between myself and the girl at #2) the other night. I got praised to high heavens for being entertaining, fun, amazing, etc. I hustled like a mad woman and made like nothing at 1st place. First fucking place! Like 1k+ guys there! No $$$$, any of them.

Last night was harder still... 3 - 4 hours ~ $36. Wretched.

A LOT of real nasty assholes, and the beggars were so plentiful that in the end I just spammed every fucker in my room with shit like

OPEN DICK BB
SKYPE??
BANANA ON HEAD BB!!! NOW PLZ

And went. Just whatever.




I've figured out that I hate doing public shows on this site because the clientele are so vile.

Before I reach a goal, there are so many beggars being insulting, rude and insanely demanding. But when I've reached my goal, those stupid, thick-as-shit assholes are all like "GOOD BB" "YES DO IT!" as though they think I'm doing it because they asked or demanded enough. I honestly think the culture of this site is so centered around begging, because these morons have no idea that the girls are waiting for their goal to fill up, and so when she starts performing, they just think she's doing it because they begged her enough. But they may as well have done, right? They're still getting their free show.

There are so many of them that it's been impossible for me to to ban them all. I really hate performing for them because they contributed nothing, they're nasty, aaaaaaaaaand - they get to see my awesome show for $0, and delude themselves into thinking I'm doing it just for them (which isn't really a delusion because yes, they can still see jerk off to my show for free).
I am sticking with this site for this week because I need money faster than Streamate can pay me.


I'm curious about the private shows, but:

1. Clicking the "Big News!" tab, and then going down to "Learn More" throws up an Error 404 - Page not found.
2. I still don't know if I have to pay for the honor of doing private shows, or whether this "Big News" is going to tell me that I'll soon actually be able to do private shows for free...
3. If it's actually worth me paying the monthly fee of £13 or whatever it is to have private shows enabled...
4. I joined the cam4 forum a few days ago and not only am I still not approved (which is a pretty long time to wait for forum approval) but the forum also glitches out big-time for me so I can't discuss this with the cam4 people there.

If I as a performer have to pay - just have the honor - of taking private shows, they better be damn profitable.

ConnyLove
06-20-2013, 06:37 AM
Most of the traffic on Cam4 are losers, they think that camming is not a job and they don't get why they would have to pay for shows. The other fact which plays against experienced models , is that there are many girls fucking themselves for 50 tokens or for free.

Incantatious , you can get the gold membership for free - in case that you want to still broadcasting there - just ask Kim.

sophiesecrets
06-20-2013, 07:09 AM
<3 Incantatious,
yus to all of that. I feel your pain...

On the gold account question, its free for you, and if your not yet you should get set up on the 10/hour. the private shows and spy shows are being tested right now, but u may be able to get it on your account if u email kim. its very easy, just a button u turn on to enable private shows. ive gotten several since its been on my account, but the losers/freeloaders will never pay! im hoping they get new clientele with all the new models...

o and grats on the #1 slot! i havent been able to get 1000+ in a while. u may think about making one of ur tippers whos hanging out in your room a mod. that can help when ur being bombarded by freeloaders and beggars.

Incantatious
06-20-2013, 07:38 AM
Ladies, thank you so much. <3 It means an awful lot to be able to vent here about all this. It's difficult because my first couple of broadcasts on this site won me over, but since then it's been very hard. I'm still not sure whether to bring up those words ("Maybe it's the summer?") because I didn't believe it / didn't want to believe it, but maybe it's happening to me. I just want to do everything in my power to NOT get dissuaded and put any decrease in success down to the season. I have never done that before. I do think this can be a great site with great earning potential, but it does - at least at the moment - have it's downfalls, (like the clientele) which can weigh pretty heavily on you if you're having a bad night. :(

I'm going to PM Kim about the gold account, privates and $10/hour thing.. I feel really greedy asking for all those things! Lol I have no idea how to word it, like "Hai Kim, can you give me all the things?! :3" LMAO!

P.S. sophiesecrets - I love your avatar!

sophiesecrets
06-20-2013, 07:50 AM
haha thx! <3

and dont feel bad, i think its incentive for all the bs. they really are trying to improve the site. ive always liked the set up, and i have done well there, though ive never been able to make it my main site. but im hoping that if you bring the girls... the pervs will follow! fingers x'd!

good luck!!! Cant beat the 5 day a week payout thing they have there! gets me by some weeks!

Incantatious
06-20-2013, 07:54 AM
Aww thank you! ^_^ And...


Cant beat the 5 day a week payout thing they have there! gets me by some weeks!

Amen! I wish all sites did this!

cherryblossomsinspring
06-20-2013, 09:08 AM
Wow, so even when you're #1 on this site, that promises NOTHING, lol.

I stood at first place for quite a bit, (and there was around 200 members difference between myself and the girl at #2) the other night. I got praised to high heavens for being entertaining, fun, amazing, etc. I hustled like a mad woman and made like nothing at 1st place. First fucking place! Like 1k+ guys there! No $$$$, any of them.

Last night was harder still... 3 - 4 hours ~ $36. Wretched.

A LOT of real nasty assholes, and the beggars were so plentiful that in the end I just spammed every fucker in my room with shit like

OPEN DICK BB
SKYPE??
BANANA ON HEAD BB!!! NOW PLZ

And went. Just whatever.




I've figured out that I hate doing public shows on this site because the clientele are so vile.

Before I reach a goal, there are so many beggars being insulting, rude and insanely demanding. But when I've reached my goal, those stupid, thick-as-shit assholes are all like "GOOD BB" "YES DO IT!" as though they think I'm doing it because they asked or demanded enough. I honestly think the culture of this site is so centered around begging, because these morons have no idea that the girls are waiting for their goal to fill up, and so when she starts performing, they just think she's doing it because they begged her enough. But they may as well have done, right? They're still getting their free show.

There are so many of them that it's been impossible for me to to ban them all. I really hate performing for them because they contributed nothing, they're nasty, aaaaaaaaaand - they get to see my awesome show for $0, and delude themselves into thinking I'm doing it just for them (which isn't really a delusion because yes, they can still see jerk off to my show for free).
I am sticking with this site for this week because I need money faster than Streamate can pay me.


I'm curious about the private shows, but:

1. Clicking the "Big News!" tab, and then going down to "Learn More" throws up an Error 404 - Page not found.
2. I still don't know if I have to pay for the honor of doing private shows, or whether this "Big News" is going to tell me that I'll soon actually be able to do private shows for free...
3. If it's actually worth me paying the monthly fee of £13 or whatever it is to have private shows enabled...
4. I joined the cam4 forum a few days ago and not only am I still not approved (which is a pretty long time to wait for forum approval) but the forum also glitches out big-time for me so I can't discuss this with the cam4 people there.

If I as a performer have to pay - just have the honor - of taking private shows, they better be damn profitable.

I did more research looking at the numbers of female and male models on the site.

Members taper off after the first 3 pages for female models. What I mean is that their traffic by the end of page 3 gets down to 4-5 members in their room tops.

For the male members you have to go almost 11-13 pages in to see a guy with 4-5 members in his room.

As usual that same guy came back with his wannabe sage wisdom of " show more nudity and the tippers will come" as if I have to be naked already to make money. Then he even went to tell me I should lower my skype rates because when guys buy tokens it starts in a 250 pack. Yawn they can just buy a bigger pack. Stop trying to do the cheap fuck routine. He's now popping in with "hey I wanted to cam today but I have to go into work" lol. He's done that a few days now when I know the guy works from home lol. Plus I almost vomited in my mouth alittle when he said " we'll make you a star!". Geeze some of these guys are on an ego trip off of spending $5 . Wow


My next move for when I log in is to ignore the room until I hear a chime of money. I'm no longer addressing any of them. 2 people throwing me 10 tokens here and there doesn't account for the 100+ beggars that come in my room within a 10 hr period. Split camming has also kept my sanity because it's always nice to say " gotta go money talks!!" . Some guys assumed that because I was holding a conversation off the site that my cam feed was recorded.

Actually correction I'm just enabling the feature in chat that only allows members in that have tokens. I don't care about non paying traffic because they have no desires to ever spend. It's like MFC but there isn't an option to silence basics, or guests. So the best option for me is to only allow members with tokens in. That should solve most of the annoyance factor.

I still can't believe 1st place and these guys were just lame. BTW Incantatious if you are the top person for the whole month you win $2k as a female performer. So that + the hourly is a great incentive.

There's also a featured section which I think top models are placed as well.

Incantatious
06-20-2013, 09:19 AM
As usual that same guy came back with his wannabe sage wisdom of " show more nudity and the tippers will come" as if I have to be naked already to make money. Then he even went to tell me I should lower my skype rates because when guys buy tokens it starts in a 250 pack. Yawn they can just buy a bigger pack. Stop trying to do the cheap fuck routine. He's now popping in with "hey I wanted to cam today but I have to go into work" lol. He's done that a few days now when I know the guy works from home lol. Plus I almost vomited in my mouth alittle when he said " we'll make you a star!". Geeze some of these guys are on an ego trip off of spending $5 . Wow

Damn, it's actually insane. I've had guys tell me such woven webs of bullshit on cam4 it's not even funny. I haven't had guests try to play me as hard as those cam4 guys. Like the guys who tell you that they'll uncover the "secret way" to make big bucks on cam4 IF YOU DO SKYPE WITH ME BB then I tell all; and those who promise all kinds of bullshit for tokens they don't even have, and then go out of their way to ruin your broadcast by spamming their demands.


My next move for when I log in is to ignore the room until I hear a chime of money.

I wish I could do that.

I planned on doing that last night actually, but I get very impatient very quickly, so when nothing was picking up, I just started a goal and went about it as I usually do. I need to try splitcamming.


Some guys assumed that because I was holding a conversation off the site that my cam feed was recorded.

I had a guy last night demand I wave to him to prove I wasn't a recording. I wave my middle finger. Can't stand those guys.



I still can't believe 1st place and these guys were just lame. BTW Incantatious if you are the top person for the whole month you win $2k as a female performer. So that + the hourly is a great incentive.

I thought that was for the girls who made the most tokens rather than the girls with the most viewers?

I wish that high placement + high earnings went hand-in hand for this site but unfortunately for me it seems that's not the case. At least going from my (currently limited) experience. :( I do hope it picks up.

cherryblossomsinspring
06-20-2013, 09:20 AM
^ Ohh to add the feature to only allow members to chat that have tokens is when you first log in.

Ok everyone new update:: Just saw that I know have the new private feature updated when I broadcast. The issue with this is that the site is putting all private at 24 tokens a minute. It's not a terrible rate but I feel based on how other sites are it should be at the very least 30 tokens a minute. The feature also requires members to have at the very least 48 tokens to start a private. I still think this is a tad low but I understand they are just getting things started.

So enabling privates and putting my skype rate higher. This will mean that guys will only be able to take me private and skype will be far out of their reach.

Any who we'll see how this goes. A 10 min private is about 240 tokens =$24.00 That's about $144 an hour. We'll see how this works out.

Snowy0Star
06-20-2013, 09:21 AM
Where do u go in the settings to only let viewers with tokens in?

Snowy0Star
06-20-2013, 09:24 AM
AHHAHA Yes! sakura i have guys do that on CB everyonce in awhile too (wave so i know ur not fake bb)and i do the same thing! arrogant pricks i tell ya

cherryblossomsinspring
06-20-2013, 09:27 AM
Also voyeur is 8 tokens a minute = .80 per min.

I don't see how anyone wants to do privates but it's a start. I see now why guys , even paying members want skype. They want to really harass the shit out of you which is why I never log into skype unless someone is paying for a show. Even the only skype show I got here was the guy trying to talk through the entire thing and then go " wow we have haven't even done our show yet". --Scam artist trying to steal time.

I may actually pull skype all together since it seems like an annoying demand on this site from all members.

cherryblossomsinspring
06-20-2013, 09:39 AM
Where do u go in the settings to only let viewers with tokens in?

When you click Start Broadcast

after your cam feed is up in the upper right corner there's a little circle icon. Click that

It will pop up these options :

Manage Bans / Go Private

Chat font size

Show Avatar in Chat

keep going down below this area and you'll see these options:

Chat filter:

Disable Filters
Enable Filters

*Note*: You must put an "X" in Enable Filters

then place another "X" next to one of the options below.

Allow chat from users with tokens
Allow chat from friends/ favorites
Allow chat from users that speak my language (s)
Allow chat from users of gender male /female

I tried the setting and I did get members with tokens but since I was new I received mostly men that were cam models themselves.

What I also do is when someone is talking too much I just enable that feature and I can clearly tell if they have tokens or not because they can't speak after that. It's cool to enable the feature while you're already broadcasting because it shuts people down instantly. They sit there for a moment and I go " hey are you there?" hahah I'm so fucked up! lol

I may start doing this ever time someone comes in to chat and 3 mins have passed. lol

cherryblossomsinspring
06-20-2013, 09:53 AM
Ohh another thing. I was able to kick a guy out of another model's room. He was posting some really nasty comments and I clicked on his name reported his abuse and kicked him out of the room. I thought this was a coincidence but in another room the moderator was kicked out. Seriously? could you imagine an actual paying member being kicked out of your room because some broke douche wants your undivided attention?

It's a glitch that hasn't been abused yet but as the site becomes more $$$ focused the members that are there for their free attention, gf hunting will move to more abusive tactics. Their attitude is pretty obvious when they are calling models "token whores".

Anyways just a heads up.

bigbootyjudy1
06-20-2013, 11:06 AM
Please you guys help me.Ive been trying to sign up for the site for 3days but i cant.When i sign up.It looks like i signed up as a member and not a model.Sorry i feel so slow :(

ConnyLove
06-20-2013, 11:53 AM
Please you guys help me.Ive been trying to sign up for the site for 3days but i cant.When i sign up.It looks like i signed up as a member and not a model.Sorry i feel so slow :(

You need to look for the Cam4bucks. there is an orange line on the left . Once there you need to upload your ID and sign the agreement.

bigbootyjudy1
06-20-2013, 12:20 PM
You need to look for the Cam4bucks. there is an orange line on the left . Once there you need to upload your ID and sign the agreement.

Thanks babe ,got it all fix.

JaneBurgess
06-20-2013, 08:31 PM
It is a hard site to get used to. So many of these guys feel entitled to free nudity. One guy said he pays a $20 a month membership fee and that should include free cam shows. They seem to be kinda cheap but if you hold your ground they do tend to tip in time.

CourtneyRaine
06-20-2013, 10:06 PM
This is my third night on there, after over an hour I have made $0. The most people I've had in my room at any one time has been 5, but never more that 3 members, and usually not for a minute or two at most. I am also not on the hourly pay. So, why the hell did I just waste my time? And how am I supposed to get more traffic in my room? I am not going to be advertising cam4 on my twitter if this site is not going to work out for me. So how do I get more guys in my room to raise my placement? I am fine with public nudity as long as I am getting tipped for it but if I'm not being paid then hell no I'm not giving it away just to hope that my naked screen shot will attract more freeloaders.

Incantatious
06-20-2013, 11:48 PM
What a weird night on cam4. I was on for around 3ish hours? I made next to nothing the first 2, and then suddenly made $89 out of absolutely fucking nowhere. I don't even know wtf I done. Though I never ever start nakey, I do find that things pick up when I am nakey (after tips) and showing the pussy, etc.. (with more members comes an assortment of guys, not just freeloaders).

I had the highest tipper I've ever had on there who brought in 250 tokens. I don't have the $10/hourly show up in my earnings yet, I am thinking it takes a while?

Still though, I am sure the tokens system fucks with my dyscalculia something rotten even though it's as simple as 8k tokens = $80; 4500 tokens = $45 etc - I was stil like "OMFG I HAVE MADE 8K TOKENS! I MUST HAVE AT LEAST LIKE $1K!" looooooool... not soooo. I do wish there was a way to see my exact earnings in $ or £ live rather than them showing up when I stop broadcasting.



This is my third night on there, after over an hour I have made $0. The most people I've had in my room at any one time has been 5, but never more that 3 members, and usually not for a minute or two at most. I am also not on the hourly pay. So, why the hell did I just waste my time? And how am I supposed to get more traffic in my room? I am not going to be advertising cam4 on my twitter if this site is not going to work out for me. So how do I get more guys in my room to raise my placement? I am fine with public nudity as long as I am getting tipped for it but if I'm not being paid then hell no I'm not giving it away just to hope that my naked screen shot will attract more freeloaders.

The main thing I think it comes down to, is having a tempting avatar pic that guys will see when they browse the site (not necessarily nude!) - that pic is the first impression guys get of you so you want to make it seem as good as you can. Sometimes I will actually just "hold a pose" as long as I can, like if I'm just showing my body, or a closeup of a niche asset or something, I'll hold it until I can see that still show up on the broadcasting page.

Other than that, being as compelling as you can in free chat when you get those guys come in.. but sometimes I don't even think that really works, and that the entertainment you provide in free can be more than enough for many to just not want to pay you.. Plus I saw a nude girl earlier in a badly-lit room, not talking, but she raked in a lot of tips for some reason I have no clue about.. It just seems to differ so, so widely for everyone for there to be any kind of general formula.

JaneBurgess
06-21-2013, 11:21 PM
100 tokens is $10. I use that to calculate how much I make on there.



What a weird night on cam4. I was on for around 3ish hours? I made next to nothing the first 2, and then suddenly made $89 out of absolutely fucking nowhere. I don't even know wtf I done. Though I never ever start nakey, I do find that things pick up when I am nakey (after tips) and showing the pussy, etc.. (with more members comes an assortment of guys, not just freeloaders).

I had the highest tipper I've ever had on there who brought in 250 tokens. I don't have the $10/hourly show up in my earnings yet, I am thinking it takes a while?

Still though, I am sure the tokens system fucks with my dyscalculia something rotten even though it's as simple as 8k tokens = $80; 4500 tokens = $45 etc - I was stil like "OMFG I HAVE MADE 8K TOKENS! I MUST HAVE AT LEAST LIKE $1K!" looooooool... not soooo. I do wish there was a way to see my exact earnings in $ or £ live rather than them showing up when I stop broadcasting.




The main thing I think it comes down to, is having a tempting avatar pic that guys will see when they browse the site (not necessarily nude!) - that pic is the first impression guys get of you so you want to make it seem as good as you can. Sometimes I will actually just "hold a pose" as long as I can, like if I'm just showing my body, or a closeup of a niche asset or something, I'll hold it until I can see that still show up on the broadcasting page.

Other than that, being as compelling as you can in free chat when you get those guys come in.. but sometimes I don't even think that really works, and that the entertainment you provide in free can be more than enough for many to just not want to pay you.. Plus I saw a nude girl earlier in a badly-lit room, not talking, but she raked in a lot of tips for some reason I have no clue about.. It just seems to differ so, so widely for everyone for there to be any kind of general formula.

CourtneyRaine
06-22-2013, 10:32 AM
I just move the decimal place over one spot. Move it once to the left to convert tokens to $ (525 tokens = $52.5), once to the right to convert $ to tokens ($45 = 450 tokens). I find it much simpler than sites where tokens are $0.05 to the model. When xpeeps had their tokens at $0.07 that was math hell for me!

JaneBurgess
06-23-2013, 11:45 AM
I did pretty well on there last night. I made it clear that I will NOT show any nudity unless they tip first and I stuck to my guns. Then they started tipping. I see a lot of potential in the site if they can get more cam models on there opposed to amateur's doing $10 sex shows.

NaughtyNattie
06-23-2013, 12:08 PM
It's very hit or miss on there, but I do agree that you have to stick to your guns on the nudity. You attract more ACTUAL tippers when you begin your shift modestly it seems. Maybe have some skin photos on your profile, but maybe skip the pussy pics on your public profile, ass (not spread showing the hole :/). Honestly, I made my absolute biggest money on there last night. I was fully clothed in jeans, t-shirt, bra, panties, socks & tennis shoes....and wasn't showing my face in free (which I have decided against, face in prvt only bb lol). I was charging 30 tokens per piece of clothing, then once I was naked had to come up with something else so then my biggest tipper got a private. Only one guy tipped the whole time from fully clothed to private show. Yes, I'm afraid that he may have been using a stolen card or something and I will get a chargeback, but honestly you gotta hustle the SHIT out of cam4 and their system is based off of tips exclusively (you get prvts for $2.40 a min, and another .80 if you allow watchers, but I'm worried about how well it will work cos it's currently beta and end up with a CB anyway).

All in all, after 8months total of camming, I have made the most money there. So far I think I have a couple of regular tippers and a few regular freeloaders that carry on decent conversations. I have to sit there for hours before I get a quality custie that gets the fact that this is a job for us and they ain't getting shit from me for free, but I think that sticking to your guns may draw some sort of respect from the quality perverts (maybe?).

I just wish they would do the 10/100 for 10/200 cos I need much more time to be able to weed they the time wasters and freeloaders to gain a decent following :(. I think I would be even interested in 5/200 just to know I had a guarantee of some cash flow for a little while. I know most camgirls make WAY too much money to settle for 5/200, some even wont settle for 10/100, but I've never made any money, so to me this is helping to get my foot in the door, you know :)

sophiesecrets
06-23-2013, 12:34 PM
^^^^^^
Amen sister! Slow is slow, and times get hard, when ur staring at nothing 5/200 sounds good lol. glad ur gettin some traffic! waay to stick 2 ur gunz!

SarahTime
06-24-2013, 01:36 PM
How do you register on cam4? I thought I registered but it looks like the same as if I was just a customer....?

It's also not asking me for any documentation?

Incantatious
06-24-2013, 01:38 PM
^ All profiles (member and performer) are pretty much the same. You should be fine.

You will need to submit age verification etc I believe in the cam4bucks section which you should be able to see as a tab along your profile. :)

sophiesecrets
06-24-2013, 01:38 PM
clik the cam4bucks tab, it will open a new window. u should see how to verify as a performer there. also to get the gold acct, email Kim or Adriana. they upgrade u and get u on the 10/hour.

NaughtyNattie
06-24-2013, 01:39 PM
How do you register on cam4? I thought I registered but it looks like the same as if I was just a customer....?

It's also not asking me for any documentation?

You have to go to the cam4bucks link at the top of the page :)

NaughtyNattie
06-24-2013, 01:40 PM
Meh! Always late to the party haha

JaneBurgess
06-25-2013, 03:12 PM
When do they add the payments for hourly to Cam4Bucks? Mine still isn't showing up and it's Tuesday.

NaughtyNattie
06-25-2013, 03:17 PM
I have been trying to get in touch with someone about it all day! I'm quite angry right now because no one has answered me, and I'm depending on that hourly this week. Please let us know if u hear from someone and I will do the same.

The bad part about it is that they process payment requests once a day, and if they don't have it updated by a certain time, you can request payment, but have to wait until the next day for approval. So, if they don't hurry up and update the hours, we could be stuck waiting until next week to get it. I did get my money last week, but I'm quite upset right now and I don't think I'm going to put anymore time in until they get it updated.

Wish they understood that they harm their credibility in this business when they act that way and end up with a reputation....then they wont be able to get models!

biancabaker
06-25-2013, 03:30 PM
So I was told my :EARNINGS: would be there LAST Tuesday and still do not have them- I have sent emails and everything.. It is pretty ridiculous. I was ALSO counting on it as well. I believe they should have a better system. I mean why cant they just pay us in tokens? I mean they could tip it and it would actually work.

SarahTime
06-25-2013, 03:33 PM
My cam is super zoomed looking and squished..... everything I try it is the same.... anyone know whats up?

MissSassyPickles
06-25-2013, 03:35 PM
That is why I stopped broadcasting there (see my earlier posts).

NaughtyNattie
06-25-2013, 03:36 PM
I agree bianca, but the way I made my hourly last week actually showed up in my earnings report as tokens, so I guess that's the way they did do it. But, I was only paid for 29.4 hours, as opposed to the actual 35 or so that I worked. Kim emailed me and said that she was working on figuring out what happened, but that's the last I heard about it, and now no one is answering me about the 32 or 33 or whatever I worked this week. It's completely ridiculous that it takes so long just to get the freggin hourly sorted out. I mean they have the system to track our time online, why is it so hard and have to take so long just to look at a report and tip the hours? It's not hard at all :/

JaneBurgess
06-25-2013, 05:12 PM
I was paid for last week. Perhaps they are just behind this week and it will be fixed by tomorrow morning. I have never not been paid what I earned on there.



So I was told my :EARNINGS: would be there LAST Tuesday and still do not have them- I have sent emails and everything.. It is pretty ridiculous. I was ALSO counting on it as well. I believe they should have a better system. I mean why cant they just pay us in tokens? I mean they could tip it and it would actually work.

JaneBurgess
06-26-2013, 12:26 PM
My funds were in my account this morning. Thank you Cam4 crew.

NaughtyNattie
06-26-2013, 05:48 PM
Got mine this afternoon, but it was still there today ! So, I think I have an idea on how the hourly works for anyone just getting started on in....

1. I'm pretty sure you will not get paid for the hours in a shift you worked and didn't get tips, so work it and get at the very least like 50cent or something
2. The hourly cut off for the week is either Monday night at midnight, or Tuesday morning at 6am. Payroll has until Thursday or Friday to complete your hourly token updates. This could be due to their 3day hold on tips since they pay your hourly in "tips" anyway.
3. Also, I think it depends on how busy they are as to how quickly they get your hourly updated. They updated mine ON Tuesday last week, but several things have went on this week putting them behind I guess. But, technically they have until Thursday or Friday (depending on when the hourly cut off is).
4. Get all of the hours you want in by Monday midnight, just to be sure you can do what you need to with your money because there is also a 24 hour wait for processing the cashout request if you request after their daily one-time payment processing.
5. There are no fees when cashing out, and they don't take a percentage of your .10 per token; it's all yours bb :) Not sure if their profit comes from the token packages purchased or what, but they certainly pay the most out of any site I have worked so I love them!!
6. You can cash out Monday-Friday as long as you meet the $50 minimum payout each day you want to cash out.
7. Traffic is definitely hit or miss, but I hope that they are working on getting more quality customers in there for us ladies because the male models there have tons of traffic lol.
8. We can all do our part by muting those without tokens from chat and posting a message every so often that you have those without tokens muted, so go get some so they can have fun too! They can read your messages, they just can't respond-or can, but u just can't see it. I don't know if it will cause anyone to run out and buy a token package (one guy told me that my message prompted him to do just that, that was my biggest earning day, and he said he spent all his tokens on me, and I was FULLY clothed that day and not showing my face on cam at all lol)


Edited* The way to mute those without tokens....
On the top right of your streaming screen, click the wheel/tools icon, then click enable filters, then allow chat from those with tokens, close the window and your good to go!

Now, if you click out of your chat, then back in, you will then be able to see what no-tokens guys say, but just because it appears doesn't mean they suddenly have tokens, just a glitch. So before you click out and over to users or a pm, check who's chatting, that way you will know what/who popped up once you clicked back.

Hope this helps someone! :D

JGB2009
06-26-2013, 08:54 PM
Whats the differance between guest and users in the room? I notice both are there?

JGB2009
06-27-2013, 12:02 AM
Was on 3 hours and had 104 people in my room. Thought that many people in my room would be a good thing....but didn't get any tips.....at least I can say I gave it a honest try.

Incantatious
06-27-2013, 12:05 AM
^ I've had 1k+ people in my room and no tips. SMH. That is one thing to say for cam4: the traffic is unreliable, no matter how many members you have in your room.

You can have a huge-ass room, comprised entirely of broke-ass beggars. :(

cherryblossomsinspring
06-27-2013, 04:25 AM
Ok so I either have really crap luck or my hours are a bit off. I took a few days off thanks to well good old monthly pains. I thought this would be good since it would give ample time for the amounts to catch up and update but I'm wondering if it's off.

It's showing exactly 1024.80 and I've chosen the wire transfer method of $25. Haha so It's off by exactly .20. :-\ Sigh* I planned to transfer out when it hit $1025-25 transfer fee would = $1,000 even. I still have a few hours left to the 100 hours but I was pretty certain that I was at least 1035 or 1050 by the time everything caught up.

Btw the last day I was on was great. I tried the option of only allowing members with tokens to talk and surprisingly my room filled up. I received a 3 min private lol but it was a start. I have to say that I like the fact that you can enable that feature while still in chat. Anytime I get a talker trying to haggle I just update the room to "only members with tokens" and the beggars are immediately silenced:-X. It's odd that they still wait around hoping to see what will happen. I think this will train them to behave over time:) :D

sophiesecrets
06-27-2013, 07:36 AM
thx cherry! ima be giving cam4 another shot [email protected]


hugs u guys, i wish u all luck $$

NaughtyNattie
06-27-2013, 07:41 AM
Whats the differance between guest and users in the room? I notice both are there?

Yes, they show up in the same row and aren't categorized. But, they can't chat without an account, so if they are chatting, they have at least signed up, and they wont have a username if they haven't either. Also, anyone showing a username can have tokens. Most of my tips have come from those not showing in gold :)

JGB2009
06-27-2013, 07:51 AM
This site would be so much fun if they actually tipped...maybe I will try again to see wut happens...maybe I will get lucky

bigbootyjudy1
06-27-2013, 07:54 AM
Never mind