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laurielegs
07-11-2013, 01:44 PM
Yea I didn't get my bonus from last week yet and it was suppose to be there. I mailed Adriana and she hasn't answered me yet. I don't like having to chase my money.

I had to chase my money every single week after suffering with that horrendous site's free chat assholes. I've got more $ waiting from my bonus period but I can't bring myself to go back.

Fallenangel2904
07-11-2013, 01:49 PM
I had to chase my money every single week after suffering with that horrendous site's free chat assholes. I've got more $ waiting from my bonus period but I can't bring myself to go back.

Ugh this is exactly what I was afraid would happen. :( Not sure how long I'll last on there at this rate!

JaneBurgess
07-11-2013, 04:34 PM
I sent Kim a message about us not getting paid yet and asked her to please look into it. I feel bad asking her but she is always really good at getting back to me.

Kim - Cam4
07-11-2013, 08:52 PM
Hello Ladies -

Thank you Jane for contacting me.

Some of you may be aware of the flooding they had in Canada a few days ago. Unfortunately this is where our offices are located and we were affected. We've had to deal with power outages, etc and while I know that does get your funds to you any quicker it is why things are currently running behind. I do apologize and accounting is working on getting things caught up in between the outages. I will send out a note to see where they are but it's 11:51PM here now so I won't hear anything until sometime tomorrow morning.

Kim

Fallenangel2904
07-14-2013, 06:12 PM
Alright question that's driving me crazy.

When I'm streaming I see a number on the bottom right of my screen. It goes from low to high and keeps going up and down, sometimes it's in red sometimes green. I've seen it go from like 5 to 20.

Anyone know what this number indicates? I've asked while streaming but none of the guys know lol

NaughtyNattie
07-15-2013, 05:19 AM
Anyone know what this number indicates? I've asked while streaming but none of the guys know lol

Could it be like a traffic counter? I know they have changed a lot of things lately. I haven't logged on since last week, but I didn't see it then, but that's really the only thing I can think of. From my experience, traffic of 5-20 would put you on page 3 or 4, and the users tab doesn't always give an accurate count; especially if you're using the option to mute those without tokens. Try going to females link, then go to page 3 or 4 and refresh until u see your image. You can judge where u likely are by looking in your users tab, and seeing how many is stated, then judge what page by looking at how many users are in other model's rooms on that page. The count on that page stays pretty accurate, so you could refresh that page and see if that's what it is there.

I hope it is a counter, because that's a whole bunch of junk just to find out how many viewers are in ur room lol.

takiaya
07-15-2013, 08:00 AM
It's not a traffic counter because mine only when as high as 22 when I knew I had alot more people than that in my room by clicking users, you can click users to see how many people are in your room, or simply open a new tab and look at your profile and it will tell how many people are in the room, I though at first it might be gold members in the room but I checked that and that wasn't right either...I've asked a few people while online if they knew what the number was, so far no one knows

NaughtyNattie
07-15-2013, 08:32 AM
It depends, users is accurate *IF* u don't have users without tokens muted, but if u do people who pop in to ur room will stay there and be counted even hours after they've left. It's not an accurate count of course, but to get the most accurate count is on ur profile. That was a bug when muting users without tokens that I noticed and thought that it may trick their site counter into putting you a page higher, but it doesn't. I think they are working on fixing that bug because it didn't do it one day last week, but was right back the next day. So, not really sure.

But, I can confirm that it's not a number that viewers can see.

Fallenangel2904
07-16-2013, 09:11 AM
I don't THINK it's the traffic counter either, but who knows. I don't have guests muted and the other night I had over 100 people in my room and the number was still bouncing somewhere between 18 and 20 so no clue. Determined to figure it out though lol. It appeared over nice because the night before it wasn't there.

Andddd I know it's only Tuesday and I have all of tomorrow but did anyone get there bonus yet this week? Kind of nervous again, just seeing if anyone has gotten theirs yet. I did quite a few hours last week.

Incantatious
07-16-2013, 09:24 AM
I still don't know if I've got the hourly rate yet... I did email.. and then email another person, but all I know for sure is that I got the ability to do private shows...

If I have the hourly thing right now, I am going to work cam4 this week as I need to make money urgently this week, but because I don't yet know if I have the hourly, I can't... :/

On a side-note, I worked a few hours a couple days ago but it was absolutely awful for me ~ I managed to get 200+ people in my room, but nothing but beggars, freeloaders, and rude guys, which was disheartening. I'd be prepared to work for money though.. (lolduh).

JGB2009
07-16-2013, 09:58 AM
I still don't know if I've got the hourly rate yet... I did email.. and then email another person, but all I know for sure is that I got the ability to do private shows...

If I have the hourly thing right now, I am going to work cam4 this week as I need to make money urgently this week, but because I don't yet know if I have the hourly, I can't... :/

On a side-note, I worked a few hours a couple days ago but it was absolutely awful for me ~ I managed to get 200+ people in my room, but nothing but beggars, freeloaders, and rude guys, which was disheartening. I'd be prepared to work for money though.. (lolduh).

I just assumed a email would be sent letting us know that we would be getting paid a hourly rate? Does anyone know if I am assuming wrong on that thought?

Incantatious
07-16-2013, 10:07 AM
I just assumed a email would be sent letting us know that we would be getting paid a hourly rate? Does anyone know if I am assuming wrong on that thought?

I have no idea, myself.. O_o

I assumed we'd be notified or given word of some kind if they gave us the hourly rate, but I don't know at this point. :(

Fallenangel2904
07-16-2013, 10:21 AM
^i emailed Adriana and she is the one who set it all up for me. She made me a gold member (which allows you to do privat shows) and once she did that she confirmed to me that she enabled the bonus. It's not automatic so you have to ask for it I believe. She was very fast in getting it all set up for me. You can email either her or Kim :)

Edited to add- just tell her when you email that you want to be enabled as a gold member and are interested in the 10/100 bonus. She did it for me no problem.

Fallenangel2904
07-17-2013, 07:33 AM
Just wanted to update and say I got my bonus today in my account in the allotted time frame :)

nelle
07-19-2013, 11:24 AM
I don't really post much but I'd like to take this opportunity to say hello to you all!

I was perusing the forums on cam4bucks and discovered the mystery behind that the little number that's been appearing in the bottom-right corner of our broadcasts.

Peter from Performer Support & Marketing:
"Those numbers indicate the strength of your connection to the cam4 servers measured in Frames per Second (FPS), the higher the number (green) the better, once they start sinking lower (yellow then red) your connection is experiencing problems."

I'm pretty new to camming (1.5 months in) & this is the only site I'm working. I have been experiencing some major issues on the site and have not been able to receive tips during my broadcast for the past few days. It has really been affecting my earnings. It does not seem to affect everyone on the site because I have gone to other cams and they can accept tokens just fine. Contacted cam4support and they say they're working on it. Any of you ladies having this problem?

biancabaker
07-19-2013, 03:11 PM
Nelle- I also cannot accept tips and so cant my friend who lives in a completely diff state than I do! I emailed them and they told me that they were working on the issue. This is not my main site- i could never pay bills w/ it. I haven't logged on to see if they fixed it but my friend is extremely mad since it is her main site.

Incantatious
07-19-2013, 03:21 PM
I just got on cam4 tonight to find that I can't enable a tipping goal, set a status, etc.. SMH.

nelle
07-21-2013, 05:47 PM
Looks like the tipping issue has been fixed for me at least. Hope everything is working alright on your end ladies.

Fallenangel2904
07-22-2013, 01:51 PM
Nelle thanks so much for posting and clearing that up!

I was on the other night and streamed for 3 hours and suddenly was kicked out. I was SO annoyed. I hadn't gotten any tips that night and now I'm thinking I'm not going to get paid the hourly for my 3 hours of streaming, since someone said in this thread that you're not paid for the time on unless you're tipped. Can anyone confirm this or not? Guess I'll email Kim, or wait and see. Gahh annoying! I hope the glitches are all fixed because I planned to log in tonight.

cherryblossomsinspring
07-23-2013, 05:57 AM
The remaining 209 showed up as a check today. So all monies have been accounted for. I posted earlier that I did receive the 953 but the site was having some tech issues so my posts were deleted. Everything is updated.

NaughtyNattie
07-23-2013, 06:07 AM
Nelle thanks so much for posting and clearing that up!

I was on the other night and streamed for 3 hours and suddenly was kicked out. I was SO annoyed. I hadn't gotten any tips that night and now I'm thinking I'm not going to get paid the hourly for my 3 hours of streaming, since someone said in this thread that you're not paid for the time on unless you're tipped. Can anyone confirm this or not? Guess I'll email Kim, or wait and see. Gahh annoying! I hope the glitches are all fixed because I planned to log in tonight.

That was me that posted about only getting paid for hours that u were tipped. But, I think they updated their system to register ALL hours worked, regardless of tips because I was recently paid for hours that I know for a fact weren't tipping hours. So, I think the hours paid only when tipped is null now.

Also, on the getting kicked problem, I emailed support and their immediate response was to uninstall flash on ur computer, restart, and then reinstall flash. There were no more kicks after that for me, so I'm guessing that was the fix for it.

JGB2009
07-26-2013, 10:44 AM
So far all the hours I worked this week have not showed up for the hourly pay. Does that happen to everyone or is that just a glitch?

NaughtyNattie
07-26-2013, 11:17 AM
Idk, they should have shown up by Friday. But, there are all kinds of glitches and things going on frequently there. What hours are u looking for?

Hours for this week won't show up till at least next Tuesday, could be later cos they say they have 3 days to update them.

Hours from last week should have shown up by now; Tuesday being payout, and 3days since is Friday and u should email Kim from an earlier message. [email protected]

NaughtyNattie
07-26-2013, 11:20 AM
Point is that if the hours u are looking for were worked THIS week, then u won't see anything of them til at least next Tuesday. Tuesday is the cut off for each week so any hours BEFORE Tuesday should have shown up by now, and on Tuesday or after will be paid next week.

JGB2009
07-26-2013, 11:31 AM
Idk, they should have shown up by Friday. But, there are all kinds of glitches and things going on frequently there. What hours are u looking for?

Hours for this week won't show up till at least next Tuesday, could be later cos they say they have 3 days to update them.

Hours from last week should have shown up by now; Tuesday being payout, and 3days since is Friday and u should email Kim from an earlier message. [email protected]

So is Sunday considered the beginning of every week and is Saturday considered the last day of the week? If Saturday is the last day of the week, what is the cut off time for that day in what time zone?

NaughtyNattie
07-26-2013, 11:34 AM
I don't think that the cut off is until Monday midnight, eastern. But that is from the couple of weeks that I actually kept up with it. Pretty sure tho, because Monday morning hours that I worked did show up in the bonus one week.

NaughtyNattie
07-26-2013, 11:35 AM
...so Monday 12:01 am eastern would begin a new pay week, I'm pretty sure.

JGB2009
07-28-2013, 11:13 AM
Are skpe shows allowed on here?

qurl
07-29-2013, 01:10 AM
I can not get those mofos to freaking tip!!

Fallenangel2904
07-31-2013, 09:04 PM
Did you guys get your bonus this week? I don't see mine. I hate to bother Kim again...I feel like I'm always emailing her :/

Kim - Cam4
07-31-2013, 09:13 PM
Shh.. it's ok.

There was an issue this week with some database outages that were out of our control. Because of this, some of you had hours that showed as "0". The woman that takes care of this in accounting is going back through everyone's broadcasts to make sure that no hours are missed. As soon as she has gathered everything and we verify that they are correct they will be added to your accounts. I apologize for the lateness, but we want to be sure you are credited properly.

Kim

Fallenangel2904
07-31-2013, 09:40 PM
Kim thanks so much for always being on top of things and your speedy replies! You're awesome! :)

Kim - Cam4
08-01-2013, 07:18 AM
You're more than welcome hon. I will update here just as soon as I have some information.

Miss_Venture
08-01-2013, 04:13 PM
Hey ho

Miss_Venture
08-01-2013, 04:38 PM
hey ho

Incantatious
08-01-2013, 04:43 PM
Oh my goodness it's horrible that you and others are having this experience with this site Miss Venture. Could you explain more about the nature of the threats please, by any chance? This is an extremely important issue, especially if it's a serious safety issue.

I have to say, this kind of doesn't surprise me, being as I have never encountered as much abuse and complete nastiness on any other site as I did on cam4. :(

Miss_Venture
08-01-2013, 05:17 PM
hey ho

Incantatious
08-01-2013, 06:20 PM
I'm afraid I shall have to decline your offer for Skype, etc, being as you aren't verified and it's very difficult to trust people who have just signed up and want to communicate over Skype. Being as you've already said you want to get this out in the open, I'm sure there's no problem discussing it in the open here?

I hope you understand my concern, being as for all I know, you could be just a really elaborate cam4 freeloader, trolling this site for concerned performers Skype details. You know how many guys troll for ladies Skype details over cam4, so it's really nothing personal towards yourself, but from one performer to another, I'm sure you know what I mean, and I hope you don't take offence.

Your posts are very concerning, and if the nature of your issues involves serious threats, it feels only right to get those details out for all to see - for both fellow cam4 performers and also performers considering working at cam4 - rather that secretly through Skype or something where much less awareness can be spread about this.

Miss_Venture
08-02-2013, 01:52 AM
Incantatious You are absolutely right and make a very valid point. Yes there are many "guys" who troll web cam sites looking for girls I have had many myself pretending they are girls when in fact they are guys using a girls name. I am more trusting then most as I always try to see good in people until they prove they are not. But the flip side of that is I open myself up to having my trust abused like in this case. I am at work at the moment as I promote festivals in the UK as well as work for a fashion company so I will post the facts of this case in parts later today as it is very long. I need to work out what u can do on this site, me being a new member, as alot of my information is original screen shots.
If it helps my twitter is @Missventure1 which I have now unprotected.
Thank you for your kind concern as its to late for me as I am gone from cam4 but I do not want the same thing to happen to other girls on cam4 that happened to me so I will do all I can to make others aware.
I am not doing this for any revenge or vindictiveness against cam4 but I am still really shocked about how they treat girls on cam4 and this must stop. I may add I was given the offer of working for cam4 as part of their model promoting program as well as given a free gold membership from the @cam4_UK admin but he ended up being the same as the others and I was very shocked when he asked me for my home postal address. I do not know him personalty he was just some guy who sent me some DM's on twitter so we talked. He is a cam4 admin but he should never ask any girl for their home address.

I will post more on this when I take my lunch. Have a great day people...

cherryblossomsinspring
08-02-2013, 04:19 AM
I agree with Incantatious

Post all the details here screen shots if you have them. Even if someone posts a twitter acct it could be any model's twitter. Just post the details you have so we all can take your information into account. I did find some things that was unsettling just googling when I was waiting on being paid. I did however receive all of the monies owed to me so I was quite relieved. Still if you're going to post about a site then put all of the details right here.

Also to add twitter doesn't help. We had a known poster on this site with twitter pictures and all and it took a few years for the truth to come out that he was in fact a man. From what I've heard he's been helpful none the less but again all the pictures and text and yes even his twitter pointed to that of a woman.

Miss_Venture
08-02-2013, 04:48 AM
hey ho

Incantatious
08-02-2013, 05:40 AM
It should be noted that personal details (those of yours and the guy) should really not be out in the open here, so it's best to blur them out too.

Miss_Venture
08-02-2013, 06:15 AM
Hi Incantatious I don't mind some information concerning me being showed as I have pics on twitter as well as I wish to be transparent and not hide from these issues some girls get while on web cam sites. I am not sure if you can edit an attachment or do I need to delete the whole post and resend it and edit out his face?

Thanks for the advice

Nikki_Fox
08-02-2013, 06:36 AM
yes - please edit out personal information of others and probably wise to edit yours also - not in any way trying to stop you from sharing your story

JGB2009
08-02-2013, 07:28 AM
Just wondering has any ones bonus hours been posted yet?

If not I hope it is posted soon and is correct.......uhg

Kim - Cam4
08-02-2013, 07:30 AM
Hello JGB -

We had a network outage due to one of our providers that connects our data centers. This caused an issue with how images/time online was being reported. As of late yesterday afternoon I was in a meeting with everyone and they are hoping to have it resolved sometime today. I am waiting to hear back from accounting as to when they are posted. As soon as I get word I will post here. I do apologize for the delay.

Kim

Miss_Venture
08-02-2013, 07:46 AM
Re: Fake complaints due to me deleting master_8020 from skype
FROM Miss Adventure TO 1 recipient
Show Details

From

Miss Adventure

To

[email protected]****.com

Chapter 3.
1: This is when the real abuse from him started. Threats to expose me on the internet, have someone trace that mobile number I gave him even telling my friends I was a guy not a girl! How stupid as they have all seen me live on web cam. One evening one of my Brothers came to visit me and saw how upset I was as he saw me reading masters msgs about what he was going to do. My brother took over my laptop and started msgs master about if he did not stop making threats to me he would take action against him.

2: This had no effect on master "Bilal" and he carried on making threats to me. I wanted to keep this away from cam4 as I go to cam4 for fun and talk to my friends not have him keep abusing me on msgs. Again I state I can not msg him as I was just a normal member not gold back then. I was so tired of all this I re-added master back to skype so as to try and have some peace on cam4. I also made up a new cam4 name miss_v in order to avoid him as best I could. One of my Brothers also made a cam4 name up to keep an eye on things. After I re_added Master on skype I tried to get him to stop all this bull but he was just not interested. In the end I sent alot of twitter and skype msgs to my friends to see if they had any issues with him and many girls and guys msgs me back telling me that master was an idiot who things he can buy anyone with his tokens. I was also given information about who Master worked for as well as a screen shot of him. Please see evidence

3: One of the girls who msg me back was so terrified of his threats to her she screen capped him and sent me a pic of him as well as he told her where he worked on an oil rig to try and impress her. He sent me the same pic of the oil rig he worked on. I kept all this information on him in case I was forced to take steps at a later date. The girl DM me his address and a photo of him. I have blanked out her information to protect her identity on twitter as she it taking steps with her own police force over him. See evidence 3 and 4 from the DM's to me as well as a web link to his photo.

Chapter 4 to follow.

cherryblossomsinspring
08-02-2013, 07:49 AM
Ok so wait let me understand you called this guy with your own phone number and he didn't even tip for the call?

Also you added him to skype for free? No tips , no booking of a show either?

Um and the only time I've heard "token whore" other than what you just posted was from male members that are on the site for free fun. They aren't there to pay models for their work but really to jack it for free , to hook up for free or to marry some woman in a country where of course she's experiencing hard times so he can play save a whore with his cock out.

Now I know you have more to post but from where I'm sitting It looks like an excerpt from Match.com not a cam site where models are there to work and don't work unless they are getting paid. Still please continue I'd like to see more.

After being there for about a month or two I've come to realize cam4 in the past was more of an exhibitionist , validate me by watching what I'll do on cam.. site. I recall my first message was from a guy that said us " token whores" have ruined a good thing for HIM. lol

So you were on the site for fun and frolic and gave this man you number , called him ,then he turned out weird.

Remember we're the actual "token whores" here we wouldn't sit and spend time with a guy that isn't spending. Nor would we go on skype to chit chat for free and tell him NOT to pay us.

Now what really throws me for a loop is if the guy was clear about his desire to make women his token whores and get them to do whatever he wanted why even keep him on your skype list? Why be friends with someone that is so obviously stating women on that site serve no other purpose for him?

If you refused his advances blocked him and moved on there wouldn't be an further issues but you give him your cell in essence giving him false hope? Eh

Also a guy from UAE?? If you don't know about the culture or mainly what the view of women is there then you may want to do some research.

qurl
08-02-2013, 08:58 AM
cherryblossoms is right...

You went wrong when you treated this not like a job. The guy is a creepy fuck, no doubt. But you talked to him on the phone and on skype for FREE. Never ever ever ever become "friends" with a cam customer. Just don't. I'm not saying his threats are justified whatsoever, but..... this guy had warnings signs out the ass.

Block him everywhere. Ignore him. Keep his tokens if he sends them, but don't write anything back. He'll move on if you don't show any reaction. His threats are empty.
But you seriously need to learn from this, because it was avoidable.

(Also, I agree cam4 needs to remove his account/block his IP)

Miss_Venture
08-02-2013, 08:59 AM
I removed last post due to need to edit out name.

cherryblossomsinspring thank you for your input as its most welcome.

To answer your questions one by one I am happy to do so.
1: Please read my post again. I did not call him he called me on my mobile phone.
2: cam4 is not all about tokens as many girls, like me, were there before tokens even started on cam4.
3: Many many girls on cam4 talk to guys for free on skype as the guys have tipped them so they give them their skype ID
for some chat off skype like online friends as cam4 is not all about tokens for many girls but the tokens help for sure.
4: Some girls on cam4 are there just for tokens and that's fine its there wish to do that but when they offer a goal to do a show and they do not do what the guys tipped them to do then alot of members call them token whores as they take the tokens and do not fulfill their goals. Many members have had their tokens returned to them after complaining about this.
5: I know many many girls would disagree with your words for them all being "token whores" that is both insulting to many girls and not called for. Girls offer a service on web cam sites and get paid in tokens for that service. Its a mutual thing.
6: I feel it is unfair for you to class all cam4 girls by the same rules you personally want to use. Your wish to not talk to some guys without being paid for it is your choice but please respect many girls do not follow the same rules as you do.
7: coming to your skype and why not delete. If you read my post and see my screenshots I did delete him off skype but when the threats he made to put my shows on the internet then i am sorry that's blackmail.
8: I gave him my mobile phone number as he was fine to start with and please once again see my post I gave him a number I do not use from a spare sim card.
9: I had no idea this guy was like this till he did the same thing to me like he has done to others. He was ok to start with.
9: I talk to all my big tippers on skype as I normally had over 2000 plus viewers in my room so its very hard to talk to my regular guys and girls in the room so I talk to them on skype for a while. I am sorry but if someone tips me 500 : 600 700 or more and they do not request me to do anything then I feel, and so do many other girls, that there is nothing wrong with thanking them on skype and having a little chat. We are web cam girls not prostitutes who have a quick bang and kick them out.
10: I am very familiar with the culture of many Arabic states but i can not speak for all women who live in Arabic countries. But I really do not see what this has to do with anything as I had no intention of going to the UAE or being his wife. He was a cam4 guy does not matter about where he came from. Abuse is abuse and abuse does not live in one country it is everywhere.
11: U stated I give him false hope? Pretty much every guy who gives tokens to a girl lives in hope they may meet that girl someday. Giving false hope is telling the guy: sure I will come visit you keep sending me tokens. I can not and will not work like that.
12: I fully understand you are on cam4 and only been there a short while so good luck to you and I hope you make a ton of money. I just hope nobody records you then tells you they will put it on the internet and alot more.
13: I was miss_venture and miss_v on cam4 I am happy you did not give out who you are on cam4.
Have a nice day.