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PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 02:26 PM
I am not going to get into further arguments on the forum, as there is little point.

As for me being shady, I am only after shelling out thousands of pounds of my own money to members of this forum because I believed moral was running low.

I do my best for any member who needs help and I can nearly say I have helped nearly every poster in this thread at some point.

Good luck in the future with work Vixen.

Thanks

ShellyConnors
09-24-2011, 02:34 PM
This is amazing. How is a model being blamed for a chargeback? It's really confusing to me.

tinydancer23
09-24-2011, 02:36 PM
This is amazing. How is a model being blamed for a chargeback? It's really confusing to me.

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showpost.php?p=2211436&postcount=43

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 02:40 PM
This is amazing. How is a model being blamed for a chargeback? It's really confusing to me.

Models arent blamed for CB's and in most cases we will cover those costs if not too high, in other cases the cam site themselves will cover the cost. Its rare for the cost to be passed onto the model.

DP has paid chargebacks of performers who are members of this board aswell.

In general business CB's are apart of the cost of doing business, same with CB's with online work. Its just something we have to deal with but can be minimized.

The topic in question in this thread is not related to ChargeBacks.

Thanks

ShellyConnors
09-24-2011, 02:42 PM
Look back at the OP's posts. She was on AW for a month (based on the dates she wrote the posts). She complained about how SLOW AW was but she has a $280 charge back?? Something is sketchy.

This is problematic to me because it's almost suggesting that it's impossible to believe a person could land a whale out of the blue in this business, and thus turning it around on the model.

I have a horribly slow time on AW, have had horrible nights in strip clubs, etc... and we all know all it takes is one person to come in and drop money on you to make your night. This has happened to me SO many times and when it does, my first instinct is "wow I'm so glad that guy came to save my day", not "hmmm that's fishy"...

It's just super weird that so many women who work this industry find it odd on the model's part. Like... WHY?

vivianbear
09-24-2011, 02:43 PM
Hi, dont commit fraud and nothing bad will happen. AW was the authority here, not us. We do as told.

As I understand it, the model wasn't committing fraud, she was subject to a customer that was. That's called being a victim of circumstance. And why would her MFC be affected and essentially merged with payments from an existing AW account?

I'm not interested in debating your business practices because I want no part of it but don't allege that the model was somehow involved in the fraud, as though it was some sort of conspiracy. As far as I'm concerned, setups like DP are ponzi schemes waiting to happen. Talk about a house of cards.

gingergina
09-24-2011, 02:45 PM
this reminds me of something.
i used to know a girl from ifriends who got involved with a guy who was using stolen credit cards. he would come to her chatroom every day with a different account/credit card, spend tons of someone else's money and then they would split it.
when ifriends banned her and didnt pay her last paycheck, as well as wont let her create a new id card there, she was furious, acting as if nothing happened and as if she had done nothing wrong.
im not saying that OP was doing something of that kind. what i am saying is that things happen.
there is no way for pj to prove that something like that happened. also OP cant prove that she didnt do anything.
when money is involved, it is only normal to be extra cautious.

one party comes out here to warn others of how she has been mistreated. the other party comes here to tell her story.
from where i stand, it all makes perfect sense.

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 02:46 PM
As I understand it, the model wasn't committing fraud, she was subject to a customer that was. That's called being a victim of circumstance. And why would her MFC be affected and essentially merged with payments from an existing AW account?

I'm not interested in debating your business practices because I want no part of it but don't allege that the model was somehow involved in the fraud, as though it was some sort of conspiracy. As far as I'm concerned, setups like DP are ponzi schemes waiting to happen. Talk about a house of cards.

Only limited info has been posted here.

If you commit fraud on one site the money is taken from us, what is to stop the member committing more fraud on another site with us.

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 02:49 PM
there is no way for pj to prove that something like that happened.


Definitely, I would like to remind everyone that we paid out in the 280 and also, paid out on all work from MFC.

The member lost no money at all. Even though we may have been victims of fraud as we cannot prove it ourselves, we still had the generosity to pay the member all earnings.

MissKatie
09-24-2011, 02:49 PM
All of this.

VanityVixen, I'm sorry this happened. I've only just started working a few of the DP-integrated sites but I will not be opting for that service. You're a great cam girl and you don't deserve to have your accounts manipulated like this. The kind of dependance DP (and PJ) fosters among models is really disheartening. I hope you recover fairly easily, this week. Thanks for posting this as just more input for all those considering the full ramifications of scheduling around DP payments. There should be more talk of the risks models take in these so-called partnerships.

Good luck, homegirl.

To be fair, I felt the same way about DP for a long time. I only signed up for it with mfc and SM as I don't rely on those accounts for my earnings, they were just quick pocket money when needed. However, I recently signed up for DP on AW as well which is my main site, and where i make pretty much my entire earnings from. Yes it's somewhat risky, and yes you do lose an extra chunk of money, but weighed up against the facts that the money is in your account daily, and I'm cutting out the fees my bank imposes when i get payments in foreign currency, all in all, i'm happy with the service. Added to which, PJ is in a position to help with other issues we cannot get sorted ourselves, at least not quickly.

I can't comment on the rights and wrongs of this particular situation, just vouching for DP based on my own experience.

ShellyConnors
09-24-2011, 02:51 PM
I have been on AW for 4 years webcamming, before that I had a profile for just over 1 year selling only content.
In my 5 years total on AW I have NEVER received a charge back.
This was clearly NOT a charge back that the OP had her account shut down for.


And all of this is to say what? Just because you never personally experienced a chargeback ever in life means what? You are just one performer out of how many? I've personally never been in a fist fight but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen? So irrelevant.

VanityVixen
09-24-2011, 03:02 PM
OK! So girls on DP make sure customers don't use stolen credit cards to pay you in your chatroom so Princess Jenny wont shut down your entire livlihood, ok that works ::rolling eyes:: ridiculous!

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 03:05 PM
Not even going to comment on that last post its so wrong.

I have flagged this thread as I can feel a flame war starting and thats the last thing people around here need right now.

The original topic has been covered. You have been paid, you have a new account and should continue to work as normal.

If you wish to discuss anything in private feel free, doors always open. If you run into any problems with MFC in regards to your existing account let us know and we can communicate with them and confirm the cancellation of the studio contract.

nadia29
09-24-2011, 03:05 PM
I don't think it's about the CB Shelly. I think it's about her not saying anything to Jenny about the account being deleted that put up the red flag.

Plus, I suspect there is some info we don't know that PJ can't tell us.

vivianbear
09-24-2011, 03:12 PM
Not even going to comment on that last post its so wrong.

I have flagged this thread as I can feel a flame war starting and thats the last thing people around here need right now.

The original topic has been covered. You have been paid, you have a new account and should continue to work as normal.

If you wish to discuss anything in private feel free, doors always open. If you run into any problems with MFC in regards to your existing account let us know and we can communicate with them and confirm the cancellation of the studio contract.

I don't see anyone flaming anyone. That's just dramatic. People are using this as an opportunity to re-examine a business that they're invested in. If there are flaws in the business practice, this is only shedding light on it.

VanityVixen
09-24-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't think it's about the CB Shelly. I think it's about her not saying anything to Jenny about the account being deleted that put up the red flag.

Plus, I suspect there is some info we don't know that PJ can't tell us.

Nope there really isnt everything has been covered, lol. Trust me there really isnt and I did contact but didnt stress about it because I was over AW anyway by that point I hadnt even been on AW for like 5 days when they closed it, there are girls on here that know that I was leaving due to the inconsistent money. Damn PJ you sure like to shut a girl down when it's not benefiting you, lmao. funny

ShellyConnors
09-24-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't think it's about the CB Shelly. I think it's about her not saying anything to Jenny about the account being deleted that put up the red flag.

Plus, I suspect there is some info we don't know that PJ can't tell us.

The OP has already stated that her AW account was shut down during the time the whole debacle took place when people were starting to get into trouble for saying they were in different countries for higher placement. I was one of those girls who was doing that initially as well.

I figured since AW was a UK site, not a USA site... and when you first log in to AW it shows you performers from whatever area you are from, and most of the successful AW performers are in the UK, it would make sense to choose "London" for example, as your city even if you lived in California, for example. It definitely boosted traffic, for me. But girls were getting their accounts closed for that practice. The OP clearly stated that she thought it was probably because of that, and since the site was slow for her anyway (which it really can be, that's no shocker), she wasn't going to worry about it and just focus on MFC instead. If you had no intention of going back to a site, would you pander about your account there being re-opened? If my account got closed today I wouldn't say shit to anybody. It's slow as molasses if you have to say you're in USA vs. when I said I was in UK. That's just my personal experience. But then again, I'm only one performer so I can't speak for everybody.

tinydancer23
09-24-2011, 03:18 PM
Damn PJ you sure like to shut a girl down when it's not benefiting you, lmao. funny

sorry, but that's not the case. i've worked on dp inconsistently for the last eight months and i'm probably more trouble than pj makes off of me, but she's never been anything but courteous and professional when dealing with me. she doesn't shut anyone down for not making her money. she even paid you while losing a lot of money herself.

Citychick
09-24-2011, 03:18 PM
Just because you never personally experienced a chargeback ever in life means what?

It means that I do not belive that AW banned her over a CB.
They are unusual on AW (as apposed to other sites I work on), yes they happen but this was NOT A CHARGE BACK




You are just one performer out of how many?


I have no idea and I don't plan on counting every single webcammer on the site.



I've personally never been in a fist fight but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen? So irrelevant.

::)

gingergina
09-24-2011, 03:21 PM
OK! So girls on DP make sure customers don't use stolen credit cards to pay you in your chatroom so Princess Jenny wont shut down your entire livlihood, ok that works ::rolling eyes:: ridiculous!

well. shit happens. someone fucked up your account. i dont know the details im sure aw knows (and maybe pj too), but im sure that was a one single individual doing something multiple times. lets say someone came into your paid chat 20 times from the same ip address but using a different credit card to pay for that each time, and later on all those 20 credit cards' original owners/banks contacted aw to claim a fraudulent activity - that DOES look suspicious.
as for pj - i understand her perfectly well, she has no way of knowing if those, lets say 20, paid chat sessions were arranged by you or not. it still looks very suspicious. unfortunately there are incredibly many dishonest people out there. so she just had to do what she did to protect herself from further possible losses.
you got paid. you DID NOT lose those 280 pounds from aw. you got your old mfc account back. you can work again. you can make tons of money again. yes, you might have lost a few regulars for a while, but they tend to find their favourite girls again and again, even when they change their screen names. you will even get your old regulars back, im sure of that.
shit happens. you didnt lose anything. maybe except trust in certain individuals or one site. but you have not lost a single cent of your money.
hey, and now - GET ON MFC, GO GET THAT MONEY! you've got rent to pay! ;)

MissKatie
09-24-2011, 03:22 PM
^^ This

Citychick
09-24-2011, 03:23 PM
well. shit happens. someone fucked up your account. i dont know the details im sure aw knows (and maybe pj too), but im sure that was a one single individual doing something multiple times. lets say someone came into your paid chat 20 times from the same ip address but using a different credit card to pay for that each time, and later on all those 20 credit cards' original owners/banks contacted aw to claim a fraudulent activity - that DOES look suspicious.
as for pj - i understand her perfectly well, she has no way of knowing if those, lets say 20, paid chat sessions were arranged by you or not. it still looks very suspicious. unfortunately there are incredibly many dishonest people out there. so she just had to do what she did to protect herself from further possible losses.
you got paid. you DID NOT lose those 280 pounds from aw. you got your old mfc account back. you can work again. you can make tons of money again. yes, you might have lost a few regulars for a while, but they tend to find their favourite girls again and again, even when they change their screen names. you will even get your old regulars back, im sure of that.
shit happens. you didnt lose anything. maybe except trust in certain individuals or one site. but you have not lost a single cent of your money.
hey, and now - GET ON MFC, GO GET THAT MONEY! you've got rent to pay! ;)


Bravo ! Voice of reason.
*Moves swiftly along*

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 03:25 PM
I don't see anyone flaming anyone. That's just dramatic. People are using this as an opportunity to re-examine a business that they're invested in. If there are flaws in the business practice, this is only shedding light on it.

Hi, I said I feel it starting, hadnt said it started.

People examined someone elses business practices not to long again and look what happened there.

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 03:32 PM
benefiting you

With our small % we have alot of processor fee's to pay, tax man to pay and we are always re-investing money back into services to help members.

The recent double pay day set the service back by quite a few months as you can imagine, but it needed to be done as the performers are number 1 priority.

I have on occasions when I feel I have let a member down even paid their processor fee's (payoneer/alertpay) because I genuinely care for the actual person.

I have taken on Eastern European members and in which the cam sites have taken even more % than normal and still given them the same pay as everyone else and the extra charge comes from dp's pocket.

We try to run a fair business for everyone.

Most of my time is spent helping members who arent even on DP. I could never let anyone struggle with something when I know the answer or can help, even when it doesnt benefit me in the slightest, it actually adds to my daily work load which is already massive.

vivianbear
09-24-2011, 03:33 PM
Hi, I said I feel it starting, hadnt said it started.

People examined someone elses business practices not to long again and look what happened there.

So, now we should just cancel any conversations about being disgruntled by cam-affiliates? Talking about the pros and especially cons of DP should make you uncomfortable, "Jenny". You're in business for US, remember that.

Also, how dare anyone imply that Vixen should just be grateful she has what she has and call it good. I don't care what the chargeback costs DP, personally. That's not my problem nor should it be any models'. If you guarantee your service (is it part of your TOS that you eat chargebacks?) than you assume that risk. DP can and should take that back to AW, as a site and insist on being repaid themselves. That's fundamentally AW's responsibility for allowing the fraudulent account to thrive. PJ, you provided awful client-services and communication and continue to treat the model flippantly, as well as insinuate that she is somehow implicate to the fraud. That is horrible business practice, alone.

OJenni!
09-24-2011, 03:38 PM
well. shit happens. someone fucked up your account. i dont know the details im sure aw knows (and maybe pj too), but im sure that was a one single individual doing something multiple times. lets say someone came into your paid chat 20 times from the same ip address but using a different credit card to pay for that each time, and later on all those 20 credit cards' original owners/banks contacted aw to claim a fraudulent activity - that DOES look suspicious.
as for pj - i understand her perfectly well, she has no way of knowing if those, lets say 20, paid chat sessions were arranged by you or not. it still looks very suspicious. unfortunately there are incredibly many dishonest people out there. so she just had to do what she did to protect herself from further possible losses.
you got paid. you DID NOT lose those 280 pounds from aw. you got your old mfc account back. you can work again. you can make tons of money again. yes, you might have lost a few regulars for a while, but they tend to find their favourite girls again and again, even when they change their screen names. you will even get your old regulars back, im sure of that.
shit happens. you didnt lose anything. maybe except trust in certain individuals or one site. but you have not lost a single cent of your money.
hey, and now - GET ON MFC, GO GET THAT MONEY! you've got rent to pay! ;)
What she said!


As for PJ; she is a very resourceful member of this board and I am certainly glad she is here. She has answered questions for me and has helped out almost everyone in this section, regardless of whether they are on daily pay or not.

ShellyConnors
09-24-2011, 03:45 PM
I agree that PrincessJenny really has been helpful to me, as well, and I do value her as a member of this community. I am just afraid because I know the OP personally and was conferencing with her via yahoo while we both worked AW simultaneously when she earned the money from that customer. I was super excited for her because we'd struggled with AW for about a month, together. I now feel paranoid working AW under DP because if I get a lot of money from a customer one night, I don't feel like I can accept it. If I do, and it just so happens to be a chargeback, my AW account will be closed, my linked DP accounts will be closed, and when I come to SW to alert other models about the situation, not only will the usually sweet PJ will speak to me rudely, but other members of the SW community will treat me like a fraud. That really sucks.

The way it happened, it could happen to anybody. And it probably will. And I will be the first one to say "I told you so".

It's almost kinda like because it was under DP and not through AW directly, the OP is being called out. If she wasn't under DP and received a $280 chargeback through AW, her MFC account wouldn't have been affected, she'd have come here saying "I'm so upset I got a $280 chargeback and now my AW account is closed!". Everybody would be like "what a douchebag customer I'm so sorry for you"... but now she's a fraud and she should just be happy with whatever is left. Idk. I just feel bad about the situation.

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 03:50 PM
So, now we should just cancel any conversations about being disgruntled by cam-affiliates? Talking about the pros and especially cons of DP should make you uncomfortable, "Jenny". You're in business for US, remember that.

Also, how dare anyone imply that Vixen should just be grateful she has what she has and call it good. I don't care what the chargeback costs DP, personally. That's not my problem nor should it be any models'. If you guarantee your service (is it part of your TOS that you eat chargebacks?) than you assume that risk. DP can and should take that back to AW, as a site and insist on being repaid themselves. That's fundamentally AW's responsibility for allowing the fraudulent account to thrive. PJ, you provided awful client-services and communication and continue to treat the model flippantly, as well as insinuate that she is somehow complicate to the fraud. That is horrible business practice, alone.

Being disgruntled is fine, but like the other thread, it turned to flaming.

Flaming can start when emotions are brought into it, like "how dare anyone". You could have said, "I dont believe anyone can.." or something less "flamey".

Chargebacks are apart of all businesses, and you as a self employed person should take into account chargebacks for your own business operations.

DP will take the necessary actions with AW when we see fit.

You read 2 (?) emails on this thread only and I got the branding awful client services, what about the other thousand or so messages on this board or the hundreds of emails I send daily?

I have not threatened the member either, I even offered extra help with MFC.

We, AW and the member are the only ones in a position to have a valid say on whether the member was involved in fraud. Unless you have information yourself.

VanityVixen
09-24-2011, 03:57 PM
What Shelly said is true, the minute it was something against you you got defensive when the facts are the facts there is nothing being hidden here atleast not on my part I stated what happened, as far as help with MFC? I have yet to receive a reply from you offering you would help me with my account within the hours this situation started this morning I had to go and contact them myself, so please save the good Samaritan act you never replied or cared what I was going through until I put what happened on this forum now you are saying you were willing to help. Right! Last email i got said you didnt want to discuss the matter further. Anyways I stated my case and the girls that know me personally for a long time now on here know thats not who I am, if everyone else wants to make some kind of sketchy story about it fine but I'm just giving a warning as to what can happen with this service.

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 04:00 PM
Hi, I wasnt here all day to reply to your emails, again, I am not a machine. I offered help in this thread, not any of the emails.

Good luck with MFC.

GlitteryGoddess
09-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Ultimately with any payment processor there is a risk. Remember epassporte?

I'm sorry for the crap you went through VanityVixen. I hope you recover and bounce back fast.

All the shit-flinging? Seriously? We're grown women in business. We have to weigh up the pros and cons when we sign up for services. I'm on Streamate and I know I risk being on every tube site. I accept independent clients and half expect to see a chargeback. Working with DP is no different.

Personally I've been happy with the service I receive, but that is me.

MissKatie
09-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Girls this wasn't a chargeback, Jenny has already stated that. Also, I personally made over £150 in one go from a single customer on AW last night, as I have done while on DP before as well, with no problems.

Just please, take this in the context it's meant to be - ONE single person with an issue, against dozens of others with none. Not saying that the OP is at fault, or that her issue is in any way not important. Just that we do not know the ins and outs of this situation. Let's not make PJ a scapegoat for the past wrongs of other studios/ processors.

laurielegs
09-24-2011, 04:36 PM
So, now we should just cancel any conversations about being disgruntled by cam-affiliates? Talking about the pros and especially cons of DP should make you uncomfortable, "Jenny". You're in business for US, remember that.

Also, how dare anyone imply that Vixen should just be grateful she has what she has and call it good. I don't care what the chargeback costs DP, personally. That's not my problem nor should it be any models'. If you guarantee your service (is it part of your TOS that you eat chargebacks?) than you assume that risk. DP can and should take that back to AW, as a site and insist on being repaid themselves. That's fundamentally AW's responsibility for allowing the fraudulent account to thrive. PJ, you provided awful client-services and communication and continue to treat the model flippantly, as well as insinuate that she is somehow implicate to the fraud. That is horrible business practice, alone.

I have had chargebacks on almost every site I work over the years with the exception of Streamate, and the high percentage of my profits that they keep is why they cover those. I was never promised the chargebacks would be covered by dailypay service and I can not believe people actually are expecting them to cover those! It's a pay service, not an insurance plan.

Adultwork didn't ban me for chargebacks in the past. They debited my pay. That is the risk ANY of us take for taking a higher percentage and being an independent contractor. We are not employees. Sorry, I'm not believing that if it was a simple chargeback then Adultwork would have likely not closed the account because I would have lost my account there years ago when I've had chargebacks deducted from my payout.

VanityVixen, is Adultwork letting you open a new account? I know for a fact that the dailypay service does not block any host from a new account once they leave the service so if you are blocked it's Adultwork who is preventing that.

Sam38g
09-24-2011, 04:53 PM
this reminds me of something.
i used to know a girl from ifriends who got involved with a guy who was using stolen credit cards. he would come to her chatroom every day with a different account/credit card, spend tons of someone else's money and then they would split it.
when ifriends banned her and didnt pay her last paycheck, as well as wont let her create a new id card there, she was furious, acting as if nothing happened and as if she had done nothing wrong.
im not saying that OP was doing something of that kind. what i am saying is that things happen.
there is no way for pj to prove that something like that happened. also OP cant prove that she didnt do anything.
when money is involved, it is only normal to be extra cautious.

one party comes out here to warn others of how she has been mistreated. the other party comes here to tell her story.
from where i stand, it all makes perfect sense.

This is far more common than ya'll think. Particular with Russian mafia, with a list of stolen credit cards. A personal friend of mine used to do it, she is also from Europe.

My point that Jenny is the one who will be holding the "empty" bag on this one. So I can see where if there was fraud on one account then she would business wise have to assume there might be on all the accounts and cut her losses before paying out money she will never get.

But also a reminder to those who do sign up under a studio, most companies will not rehire you back if you quit or get fired. To them you are always listed under that studio.

There are always to sides to each story. I am sure there is a contract spelling out all the details, so please always READ your contracts before signing them. No matter who you do business with, this is true whether it be the adult biz or whatever.

Good Luck Ladies,
Sam

Smurfette
09-24-2011, 04:57 PM
But also a reminder to those who do sign up under a studio, most companies will not rehire you back if you quit or get fired. To them you are always listed under that studio.


I don't believe this applies to PJ's studio.

laurielegs
09-24-2011, 04:59 PM
This is far more common than ya'll think. Particular with Russian mafia, with a list of stolen credit cards. A personal friend of mine used to do it, she is also from Europe.

My point that Jenny is the one who will be holding the "empty" bag on this one. So I can see where if there was fraud on one account then she would business wise have to assume there might be on all the accounts and cut her losses before paying out money she will never get.

But also a reminder to those who do sign up under a studio, most companies will not rehire you back if you quit or get fired. To them you are always listed under that studio.

There are always to sides to each story. I am sure there is a contract spelling out all the details, so please always READ your contracts before signing them. No matter who you do business with, this is true whether it be the adult biz or whatever.

Good Luck Ladies,
Sam

If you are dealing with one of the studios that just take your money and provide no service at all then yes they may have the site block you from signing up again. That is usually the case with studios, but not with dailypay for me. After I decided to leave dailypay (I still have my Adultwork and MFC accounts with Jenny, but took off my Streamate account only). I had Jenny contact Streamate and let them know she had released me to sign up and I was back online right away.

SlippingHalo
09-24-2011, 05:00 PM
Regarding MFC, because I don't think it has been said - the only way to remove you from Daily Pay would be to close that account. I don't think it was malicious.

laurielegs
09-24-2011, 05:05 PM
Regarding MFC, because I don't think it has been said - the only way to remove you from Daily Pay would be to close that account. I don't think it was malicious.

This is true and it's on MFC's end because they force the account to be closed and won't just remove you - same with Streamate. (That's why you need a new account for MFC and streamate and do not need a new one for adultwork if you want daily pay.

With Adultwork the account does not have to be closed - they let you just click out of it whenever you choose.

MzStar
09-24-2011, 05:11 PM
PJ is going to take that account back.....your under contract and she must regain that money lost on AW...trust me.....its what i would do

PrincessJenny
09-24-2011, 05:12 PM
Oh great! I'm having a hard time verifying my account with AW. Maybe they don't understand USA I.D.'s, but mine is for real. I have never had trouble with it on other sites. I haven't heard back about my verification. This better not mess up my DP, even though I don't have AW DP yet.


Hi, your account has now been verified and webcam services turned on. Be sure to re-check your rates please.

Thanks

GlamourRouge
09-24-2011, 05:50 PM
sorry, but that's not the case. i've worked on dp inconsistently for the last eight months and i'm probably more trouble than pj makes off of me, but she's never been anything but courteous and professional when dealing with me. she doesn't shut anyone down for not making her money. she even paid you while losing a lot of money herself.

I agree. I harass her so much about stuff and she's still nice. I think PJ just, whether she wanted to or not, was pretty much forced to become non-affiliated with an account that AW flagged as having fraudulent activity (though I do not think the AW user is at fault or had anything to do with it).

Its sounds more like... both parties were victims of bad circumstances. It could happen to ANYONE at ANY TIME and its not really avoidable.

Kaylen
09-24-2011, 06:26 PM
As a person holding a passport from somewhere in Northeastern Europe I do have to say that "business ethics-wise" DP offers a much fairer alternative to the default system some of the sites have set up for Eastern European performers.

I wouldn't be caught dead dealing with nasty Russian mobsters and it's nice that DP offers a sort of "benefit of the doubt" in this situation, if that makes sense.

LAChloe
09-24-2011, 06:53 PM
I would bet a lot of money that the OP is responsible for the fraud that PJ had to pay back. A lot of money. I have never heard of ANYTHING like this and I just ran a search on all of DP. I have been researching for hours.

PJ has paid me personally thousands of dollars from SM and AW. I am consistently paid on time. She contacts sites and gets answers for me when they will not respond to me. There have been multiple times that she has gone above and beyond to get answers/fix problems for me...even when my attitude is shitty. I am the first one to admit I can be a huge bitch when it comes to my money.

With that being said, I can guarantee you that if you really had a legit chargeback she would come out of pocket to pay you. Unfortunately, a legit charge back does not constitute fraud.

Go con someone else. The girls on DP aren't dumb enough to let you pull the wool over their eyes nor do they believe your story for one second. You got caught. Figure shit out. But don't come on this board and bad mouth Princess Jenny and her service for something you clearly did to yourself.

LadyCoco
09-24-2011, 07:36 PM
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VanityVixen
09-24-2011, 07:41 PM
I would bet a lot of money that the OP is responsible for the fraud that PJ had to pay back. A lot of money. I have never heard of ANYTHING like this and I just ran a search on all of DP. I have been researching for hours.

PJ has paid me personally thousands of dollars from SM and AW. I am consistently paid on time. She contacts sites and gets answers for me when they will not respond to me. There have been multiple times that she has gone above and beyond to get answers/fix problems for me...even when my attitude is shitty. I am the first one to admit I can be a huge bitch when it comes to my money.

With that being said, I can guarantee you that if you really had a legit chargeback she would come out of pocket to pay you. Unfortunately, a legit charge back does not constitute fraud.

Go con someone else. The girls on DP aren't dumb enough to let you pull the wool over their eyes nor do they believe your story for one second. You got caught. Figure shit out. But don't come on this board and bad mouth Princess Jenny and her service for something you clearly did to yourself.

WTF? what are u in high school? is this the mean girls clique. GTFOH you just sound uneducated right now really your running your mouth without knowing anything and honestly from my end and from the girls that know me you look just straight up silly right now, please don't bother your opinion at this point is irrelevant the fact that you are defending someone you don't know that well and a discussion you dont know much about makes me sad for you, really sad. Relax chick I stated my story nothing going on here but the facts, I have the emails to prove it so please just zip it at this point I got a bunch of people hitting me up about your silly comments.

LAChloe
09-24-2011, 07:47 PM
I have been on AW for 4 years webcamming, before that I had a profile for just over 1 year selling only content.
In my 5 years total on AW I have NEVER received a charge back.
This was clearly NOT a charge back that the OP had her account shut down for.

I do not claim to know all the details but if AW had the OP's account shut down it would have been for a major infraction (fraud would be very likely).
If I were in Princess Jennys position I would shut your other accounts down in a heartbeat too.


WTF? what are u in high school? is this the mean girls clique. GTFOH you just sound uneducated right now really your running your mouth without knowing anything and honestly from my end and from the girls that know me you look just straight up silly right now, please don't bother your opinion at this point is irrelevant the fact that you are defending someone you don't know that well and a discussion you dont know much about makes me sad for you, really sad. Relax chick I stated my story nothing going on here but the facts, I have the emails to prove it so please just zip it at this point I got a bunch of people hitting me up about your silly comments.

if i am mistaken, i will be the first one to apologize. But all i know is you have very few posts and you come in here attacking someone/a business that a lot of us depend on for our livelihood. It just doesn't seem right.

You can't fault someone for shutting down your account if you have someone open an account with a stolen credit card to purchase shows from you.

Good luck.

VanityVixen
09-24-2011, 08:12 PM
Excuse me I suggest you watch yourself cuz accusations are not appreciated. Especially when you are not even part of the situation at this point you are talking out of you a**. Like I stated a billion times and I will not repeat myself. I did a show a customer paid for it with I guess apparently a stolen card or whatever she calls credit card fraud I got my account closed I thought it was for change of city guess that was the back story I wake up today wondering why my DP is 2 days late i email and as she is emailing me my MFC account is this simple enough for you, I dont know how much more simple it can get. This is why people that dont read things thoroughly shouldn't comment because you just look silly honey. explain to me what the hell would I get out of coming on here an telling my story and supposedly bashing her as you said, this is my experience you cant change that, you sound like a teenager. I barely even comment then suddenly I'm going to comment on something that isn't true after years of coming to this forum, hun I have way better things to do, wake up!

VanityVixen
09-24-2011, 08:15 PM
I have very few posts because as I change my cam name I change it on here as well depending on what sites I'm using at the moment or nicknames this is my new MFC name hence why its new girls that know me know I've been on here many years but I change my name as I change sites, find things out before opening your mouth.

EvilChick1989
09-24-2011, 08:35 PM
I have used Princess Jenny's service for over a year. I have never had ANY problems with her at all. I know a lot of members have not either.

I could not even read all the flaming going on here! I will say I have more and more respect for Princess Jenny everyday! She handles things with professionalism. So kudos to you Princess Jenny. I love your service and I am grateful to find someone "on the other side" so to say that handles things the way they should be done with Professionalism.

Vanity- You got your MFC account back. It seems? Be glad for that. If you are so worried about your rent on the first go sign up for cams.com they usually pay out from the 15th-31st pay out around the 5th of the month depending on what pay out method you use. Honestly you could join any other big box site that offers two pay outs a month and maybe just be two days late at the most 5 with your rent.

Anyways. I'm out like on parole. Good luck with everything Vanity. Also side note...Vanity learn to handle things with professionalism. Even though this is the Adult Industry (I hate to make it sound like that sorry girls...) we do run our own business so to say. We need to act professional. I really hope no one googles your name Vanity and sees how you are acting.

ShellyConnors
09-24-2011, 08:37 PM
I would bet a lot of money that the OP is responsible for the fraud that PJ had to pay back. A lot of money. I have never heard of ANYTHING like this and I just ran a search on all of DP. I have been researching for hours.

PJ has paid me personally thousands of dollars from SM and AW. I am consistently paid on time. She contacts sites and gets answers for me when they will not respond to me. There have been multiple times that she has gone above and beyond to get answers/fix problems for me...even when my attitude is shitty. I am the first one to admit I can be a huge bitch when it comes to my money.

With that being said, I can guarantee you that if you really had a legit chargeback she would come out of pocket to pay you. Unfortunately, a legit charge back does not constitute fraud.

Go con someone else. The girls on DP aren't dumb enough to let you pull the wool over their eyes nor do they believe your story for one second. You got caught. Figure shit out. But don't come on this board and bad mouth Princess Jenny and her service for something you clearly did to yourself.

This sounds so crazy to me because I was actually on yahoo with the OP while she was dealing with the guy. It was like "omg I finally got a private"... "omg he's still here brb"... "omg he's gone... he was so cool!" then... "omg he's back! wow!"

I was like "good! fiiinally some good money on AW! You finally had your day!" It was really just like, finally some good money on this site after a month of trying. I don't know. It just kind of makes me feel salty because it really could have been anybody. Anybody, that this happened to. Really.

I see PJ's point too though... she's trying to protect her business. Cool. I'm not even tripping off of her actions. Yeah I think she spoke to the OP kinda rudely at one point, and maybe she could have notified her in advance before shutting down the MFC account, but whatever... the OP has another account and that's good. But it's just like WHY on Earth are so many women so quick to disbelieve that the OP really didn't have anything to do with this? It's so strange to me.

There is almost a cult-like mentality surrounding PJ and DP where she could never be wrong, and while she's done some great things for this community, let's not forget that nobody, and no business/service is perfect. Shall we revisit the whole paypal scenario?