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justanothercamgirl
07-25-2014, 06:01 PM
There is definitely a reason why the marketing team at Streamate chose the wording that says, "Make up to $10,000 a week instead of "Make an average of $10,000 a week. (*grins*)

Is it possible? Oh hell yeah it is possible.

But the camgirls who can do it are like demi-goddesses to me because there is no way I could personally put in that amount of hours without ended up with a one way ticket to crazytown.

KatyBoleyn
07-25-2014, 07:06 PM
We have a handful of models that can make upwards of $150+ per hour. $10,000 is about 55 hours if they can keep that rate up. After a few hours though, you start running out of regular customers and start scraping the bottom of the barrel, so that 55 hours may become closer to 100.

Is $10k on SM possible? Yes. But the expense of paying a good marketing team to get you and keep you at that rate would cut down on your net earnings one way or another.

Naiad
07-25-2014, 07:07 PM
I just think there's no incentive for a girl to work 60+ hours every week on Streamate when she already is making good $$$ with a good hourly. Like you don't get anything special if you make 10k/week or something.

However, if Streamate had a top10/top 20/top 100 program like MyFreeCams does, then there would actually be incentive sometimes for girls to work a bunch of hours or have a goal amount (i.e. 10k/week), but Streamate doesn't have a program like that yet. They really should make one though. Then I'd actually have incentive to work a lot of hours haha.

Yeah I don't think it's just a matter of not putting in enough hours. It's just that $150-$200 hours are a lot less common then before. It still happens, of course. It's nothing crazy. But I think even a "top model" would struggle to actually maintain that for 10 hours per day, 7 days per week. Most people who are making that only cam a few hours per week, or only make that during some days or hours.

Now if this was last year...or even a few months ago...then counting on $150-$200 hours would be way more reasonable if you do relatively well on Streamate. But over the past couple of months, I have a hard time believing that anybody has been consistently maintaining that for extended periods of time, every day or close to. Yeah, there's some cam girls who seem to be working 24/7 near the top of the page but I highly doubt they're consistently pulling that, from what I've seen. The reason some of them are up there is because they put in a TON of hours even at a modest hourly, it adds up at the end of the week but they're not pulling in like 10k a week lol. I can't confirm that but from what I've seen, it's the only thing that makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure that 2k-4k can keep you towards the top of the page regardless of the number of hours worked, but a high hourly with fewer hours worked will put you up there too.

If the website picks up some more then I'd say it's more doable. I'll also say it's possible for a few girls who do really well, on occasion. But at this rate you can't just expect to like, be in the top two rows, work 80 hours, make 10k lol. Not recently.

I also agree that it seems a lot more doable on MFC.

LaylaLovely
07-25-2014, 11:49 PM
Livejasmin post the top 5 earners for every payout and they always do well over 30 thousand a month , but these are pg 1 girls if you make it through all the trouble to get to pg 1 then yes you will be in pvt like 95% at a time and most likely your payout percentage will go up to the highest 65 % which makes for easy money. but these girls worked hard to get to pg 1 and where consistent so regulars build up ...

LaylaLovely
07-25-2014, 11:55 PM
Last Months payouts....

Nikk***
Jul 1-15$30,604Jun 16-30$47,255

Lour***
Jul 1-15$3,198Jun 16-30$44,302

Litt***
Jul 1-15$20,616Jun 16-30$18,845

rais***
Jul 1-15$18,315Jun 16-30$16,334

Kari***
Jul 1-15$16,004Jun 16-30$15,012

justanothercamgirl
07-26-2014, 12:07 AM
Yeah I don't think it's just a matter of not putting in enough hours. It's just that $150-$200 hours are a lot less common then before. It still happens, of course. It's nothing crazy. But I think even a "top model" would struggle to actually maintain that for 10 hours per day, 7 days per week. Most people who are making that only cam a few hours per week, or only make that during some days or hours.

Now if this was last year...or even a few months ago...then counting on $150-$200 hours would be way more reasonable if you do relatively well on Streamate. But over the past couple of months, I have a hard time believing that anybody has been consistently maintaining that for extended periods of time, every day or close to.

Logically, if you have a lot of regs then the current amount of traffic on Streamate has at any point in time would end up having little to no affect on you.

That is why having regs are so important in this biz. :)

Browneyes
07-26-2014, 07:15 AM
Nikk*** on LiveJasmin is earning 30.000$ a period, because she is working fucking crazy hours plus she is 4.99 and 6.99 with 2way audio and she is doing 2way audio a lot. She pulled cammarathon 2 weeks ago,where she did 47.000$. I don't know what she is "on", but for a couple of days she did twice 19 hrs and then 40 hrs in one go...you can find it on her stats on one of lj affiliate sites. And she is not on a page 1. The rest of the girls just work 12 hrs a day and I guess they go for daily target of 1000$.

HOTAnastasia4U
07-26-2014, 03:10 PM
Nikk*** on LiveJasmin is earning 30.000$ a period, because she is working fucking crazy hours plus she is 4.99 and 6.99 with 2way audio and she is doing 2way audio a lot. She pulled cammarathon 2 weeks ago,where she did 47.000$. I don't know what she is "on", but for a couple of days she did twice 19 hrs and then 40 hrs in one go...you can find it on her stats on one of lj affiliate sites. And she is not on a page 1. The rest of the girls just work 12 hrs a day and I guess they go for daily target of 1000$.

Yes she is working like a beast it is the first thing but it is not all, she has also around 89% percent in paid and this is AMAZING...

JaneBurgess
07-26-2014, 03:26 PM
It's possible but not the norm. I know performers that earn ten grand a month. You would have to work like crazy and have luck to make ten thousand in a week. Kudos to whoever does it tho

Browneyes
07-26-2014, 04:04 PM
Yes she is working like a beast it is the first thing but it is not all, she has also around 89% percent in paid and this is AMAZING...

89%in paid chat? How?

HOTAnastasia4U
07-26-2014, 04:44 PM
That is the question I'd love to answer... She has big traffic though but still this girl come from another planet!

whirlerz
07-26-2014, 08:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKHSAE1gIs&list=RDcKKHSAE1gIs

TheBrownFox
07-26-2014, 11:46 PM
Do models on that site get to decide whether or not their earnings are revealed to the public like that?

HOTAnastasia4U
07-27-2014, 04:34 PM
Do models on that site get to decide whether or not their earnings are revealed to the public like that?

Nobody ask them for it, the site decides

smaddy
07-27-2014, 05:14 PM
Nobody ask them for it, the site decides

Hi! HotAnastasia4U. I just wanted to say 'Hi!" I know that you completely kick ass on CMD and I just wanted to welcome you to the forum.

HOTAnastasia4U
07-27-2014, 05:36 PM
Hi! HotAnastasia4U. I just wanted to say 'Hi!" I know that you completely kick ass on CMD and I just wanted to welcome you to the forum.

Ow thank you Love! I don't know if I did but at least it was a good experience and Mark is awesome ;) I don't do indy anymore though I am focusing on SM now

smaddy
07-28-2014, 06:43 AM
Haha, yes you totally did. You were the top girl on the site for 2-3 months in a row. I knew how much I was earning and was right behind you a couple times and kept thinking "geez, this girl is doing awesome!" with Indy it's always going to be lower than SM for most girls, so yes you were completely kicking ass on CMD haha.

Ow thank you Love! I don't know if I did but at least it was a good experience and Mark is awesome ;) I don't do indy anymore though I am focusing on SM now

LaylaLovely
07-28-2014, 12:30 PM
Barely any girls are 4.99 on lj I check all the time when i'm online I filter out by price, you cant charge any higher on lj im pretty sure and the top earners charge anywhere from 1.99-2.99 just pull at least 12 hrs and being on top page with high payout percentage can get you that much... just put up with all the lj bs until you reach pg 1 and you've made it!lol....../:O .. also two way audio does nothing for me noone uses it idk if its just lj thats like that. since noone uses it its no use charging for it.. its better to have two way audio free of charge because you get more of the very few who use it... ive only had 2 guys use 2 way audio one is my regular and loves it.. anther just randomly did it and didnt even talk...

LaylaLovely
07-28-2014, 12:33 PM
89%in paid chat? How?

the more you make on lj the higher your percentage goes up... although idk if 89% is the highest i thought 65% was... who knows she could have her own details worked out with lj for bieng a top model there.. highest i ever went was 45%

Melonie
07-28-2014, 12:56 PM
As Smaddy and others have already pointed out indirectly, very high cam earnings potential seems to depend on three factors ...

- the particular camgirl must have an 'independent line' to paying customers - be that an established base of fans / regulars, be that a popular indy website that feeds would-be customers directly to her cam - be that paid 3rd party marketing and promotion. Depending on generic webcam host customer traffic will never result in this level of earnings

- the particular camgirl must have something 'extraordinary' to offer potential customers - be that a hugely above average level of physical appearance - be that some outstanding physical characteristic - be that some fetish specialty. For better or worse, there are 1000's of attractive camgirls for generic customers to choose from, which limits average dancer earnings. Niche market camgirls thus face less overall one on one competition.

- the particular camgirl must have a repeatable regular schedule and/or some 'independent' means of communicating with her established base of fans / regulars as to when she will be online. Relying on 'random' hook-ups will never result in this level of earnings.

Browneyes
07-29-2014, 07:59 AM
Barely any girls are 4.99 on lj I check all the time when i'm online I filter out by price, you cant charge any higher on lj im pretty sure and the top earners charge anywhere from 1.99-2.99 just pull at least 12 hrs and being on top page with high payout percentage can get you that much... just put up with all the lj bs until you reach pg 1 and you've made it!lol....../:O .. also two way audio does nothing for me noone uses it idk if its just lj thats like that. since noone uses it its no use charging for it.. its better to have two way audio free of charge because you get more of the very few who use it... ive only had 2 guys use 2 way audio one is my regular and loves it.. anther just randomly did it and didnt even talk...

I have to disagree, most of the top earners are 4.99 or lowest 4.49. And being on a page one of most popular means nothing, you get no extra Nothing.I am on the top all the time and sometimes I feel its like a curse, people think ....oh she is most popular,she gets pvts all the time, lets take another girl in...

Oh yeah, 2 way audio is really shit, I do get 2 way audio pvts, but its not even worth talking about it...at least for me.

The highest percentage you can get is 60% in paid chat, you can get 80% from another "sidejobs" like affiliate site to livejasmin. So if you advertise it enough people will sigh up through it and you will get a percentage from their spending or you look for girls to work on LJ and sign them up through you and again you get a percentage from their earnings....like..Nikk*** does. To be honest, you have to admire that girl! :)

LaylaLovely
07-29-2014, 09:27 AM
Thats a good point i never thought about the other lj sidejobs that could be considered into there payments making them top earners. i research the heck out of things on lj i go through all the top girls asking them how much there pvts are most tell me 1.99 smaller portion 2.49... and even smaller are 2.99 + , i think its because they are in other countries.. here 1.99 makes me a smaller than decent amount for the few hours i go on at night so i had to raise it to 2.49 noone has complained except a few guys who dont get pvts anyways.. and my top regular has asked me to lower it for him but he always has long pvts with me.I do plan on raising to the highest 2.99 the highest when i get higher on pages.. who knows i might change my mind by then and go a lil higher

caramelcraze
07-29-2014, 10:05 AM
the two times (ever) I've pulled 40hr weeks, I ended up making 4k and 6.5k respectively. I just don't feel the need to be on cam for 8 hrs a day very often. It's exhausting, I get massive burn out, and it's hard to have a life. The second time I did this, I only did 2 shows a day on CB and made customs out the wazzoo. 2 3hr cam shows a day and then 2 hrs of clips. i was sooooooo worn out lol

HOTAnastasia4U
07-29-2014, 07:25 PM
the more you make on lj the higher your percentage goes up... although idk if 89% is the highest i thought 65% was... who knows she could have her own details worked out with lj for bieng a top model there.. highest i ever went was 45%

I was not talking about this :p I was saying that for July she was 89% of the time in private (so 11% ONLY in free chat), taking into account she is working 12h+ a day...

JaneBurgess
07-29-2014, 09:36 PM
There are plenty at that rate. LJ has a porn star section section they charge that or more. I charge $4.99 on there and guys pay. Camming is a business and a business would go out of business if they always charged low rates. No one should be charging $1.99 a minute to get naked on cam, I don't care what county they are from.



Barely any girls are 4.99 on lj I check all the time when i'm online I filter out by price, you cant charge any higher on lj im pretty sure and the top earners charge anywhere from 1.99-2.99 just pull at least 12 hrs and being on top page with high payout percentage can get you that much... just put up with all the lj bs until you reach pg 1 and you've made it!lol....../:O .. also two way audio does nothing for me noone uses it idk if its just lj thats like that. since noone uses it its no use charging for it.. its better to have two way audio free of charge because you get more of the very few who use it... ive only had 2 guys use 2 way audio one is my regular and loves it.. anther just randomly did it and didnt even talk...

LaylaLovely
07-29-2014, 10:21 PM
Did you have to start at a lower rate and work your prices up or just start at 4.99 in the beginning on lj? if i may ask..... becaue when i filter out 2.99+ girls i only get 4 pages worth of girls right now and theirs like 32 pages which mean the rest are 1.99...... i do fear having to sit in freechat no pvts if i go up to 4.99 i would love too tho... also i do alot like i focus on fetish in the main girl category and i do everything on the willingness list except squirt.. i wish i had that capability tho :/ ive only been there 7 months

smaddy
07-30-2014, 07:21 AM
Well you have to start at $.99 for the first 2 weeks I believe? But after that you can set to whatever you want. You don't HAVE to do anything, thats the beauty of this job. You can set your rates to whatever your heart desires. If you don't want to charge $.99 you can just not log in for those 2 weeks and essentially "skip" it.
Did you have to start at a lower rate and work your prices up or just start at 4.99 in the beginning on lj? if i may ask..... becaue when i filter out 2.99+ girls i only get 4 pages worth of girls right now and theirs like 32 pages which mean the rest are 1.99...... i do fear having to sit in freechat no pvts if i go up to 4.99 i would love too tho... also i do alot like i focus on fetish in the main girl category and i do everything on the willingness list except squirt.. i wish i had that capability tho :/ ive only been there 7 months

Lupina
07-30-2014, 10:25 AM
I know an mfc girl that is top 10 almost every month. Top 10 on mfc is around $40000, top5 is over $50k and she works around 100h a month or even less when she's not going for top 5. So 10k a week is attainable. 100h a month is about 4h a day for 25 days.

JaneBurgess
07-30-2014, 02:45 PM
I started out at $3.99 and a week later went to $4.99. I never started out at a low rate on any cam site because I figured it's a virtual strip club. Strippers usually do well because they can hustle and they value their talent just like cam performers need to. We provide a service, we entertain and many get naked and do erotic shows. There are always customers that will complain you charge a lot, but that's their problem. There are many customers that have no problem paying a higher rate because they realize what they are getting is worth the money.

I personally would rather be in free chat longer to get better quality customers and longer shows. When I was at lower rates I had two minute men and guys that wanted crazy stuff. I do a lot of fetish shows and most of the fetish performers I've seen on different sites charge pretty high rates because they offer a specialized niche.



Did you have to start at a lower rate and work your prices up or just start at 4.99 in the beginning on lj? if i may ask..... becaue when i filter out 2.99+ girls i only get 4 pages worth of girls right now and theirs like 32 pages which mean the rest are 1.99...... i do fear having to sit in freechat no pvts if i go up to 4.99 i would love too tho... also i do alot like i focus on fetish in the main girl category and i do everything on the willingness list except squirt.. i wish i had that capability tho :/ ive only been there 7 months

Naiad
07-31-2014, 07:02 PM
Yes - in theory with enough regs, you could average 100k a week on Streamate :p The sky is endless!

But I agree that having regs is super important. A significant portion of my income comes from regs. I would just be really surprised if anyone could maintain - if they were actually aiming for it - 10k on Streamate this particular summer, or even every other week, or occasionally, or even close to it lol, unless they had some really big whales, as I mentioned. Or a really "lucky" week.

I was responding to GR's post, which claimed that higher earning girls could reasonably make 10k within 60 hours on Streamate. I agree that it's possible, but I don't think that higher earning girls could necessarily expect that. There's plenty of models on the top 2 rows who aren't pulling in crazy amounts of cash for every hour they're logged in. Before, yeah I'd say 10k within 60 hours was more doable for a lot of models, not so much recently because of all the slow hours. Unless they are driving a shit ton of traffic to their room, which would take up even more time each week.

With the way it's been recently it would be extremely difficult, even for an experienced, "top" model to maintain $166 an hour for 60 hours each week. $166 in an hour is nothing crazy. Doing it for 10 hours straight, 6 days a week is another story :p

Hopefully it will pick up again so that becomes more plausible for us. Otherwise a savvy business woman could drive any amount of traffic to her room, do affiliates, etc. It's possible to advertise yourself so much that the gold constantly flows like woah no matter when you're logged in, or for how long. I consider that level of skill, if she is really good at it, to be more indy though, not so much thanks to Streamate.


Logically, if you have a lot of regs then the current amount of traffic on Streamate has at any point in time would end up having little to no affect on you.

That is why having regs are so important in this biz. :)

JennyCouture
07-16-2015, 04:35 PM
I remember Imlive used to post their top models earnings in the $5k per week neighborhood. That is MUCH more attainable on a regular basis.


Ya Ive made 6500 in a week several times working 40 hrs on streamate so that is only 35% of what I actually made lol ...sad lol

JennyCouture
07-16-2015, 05:11 PM
So I did out the streamate math. I've seen girls pull over 400 gold a show--fuck, I've seen them pull a grand. Not consistently, but it happens. So if a model did two gs an hour and pulled over 400 gold a show and did this for 5 hrs/day 7 days/week, she'd make 10k. So uh, yeah.

Although thinking on it, both girls I've seen pull THAT high were studio girls...

I used to do 420 goal shows on a regular basis and honestly I make the same doing shorter shows w smaller goals and more of them.. Ive also done alot of 1013 shows and the most Ive ever made was 6500 on streamate and Im not a studio girl

JennyCouture
07-26-2015, 07:01 PM
Most likely those are from the model tipping herself. ::)


why would a model tip herself that much she would lose like $500

AlexiaRoss
07-26-2015, 08:01 PM
I used to do 420 goal shows on a regular basis and honestly I make the same doing shorter shows w smaller goals and more of them.. Ive also done alot of 1013 shows and the most Ive ever made was 6500 on streamate and Im not a studio girl


Wow, I cammed for 11 hours in total this week and made just over a grand lol. I need to put in 40+ hours - I want $6500 earnings fuck! lol.thats crazy!!!

KatyBoleyn
07-27-2015, 07:46 AM
why would a model tip herself that much she would lose like $500

Two main effects:
1 - It bumps your placement on MFC's matrix. Is it worth losing 10-20% of your money to make 30-40% more? Same as any advertising budget.
2 - Psychological effect in your room. Sheep see someone tipping, they gotta tip too. "Because you deserve it."

When I tried out MFC, it was crickets in my room. I'm massive introvert so it wasn't really working out. However, hubby got the grand idea to come in and drop $10 worth of tokens on me...and then I made a few $100 that shift once the ball was rolling. I imagine the effect is even more pronounced at the top when there's 1000's of guys in and out of your room and not 20-30.

JennyCouture
07-28-2015, 05:52 PM
I personally know someone who made 15k on streamate in 30 hrs just a few weeks ago ;)

LaylaLovely
07-28-2015, 06:43 PM
Do you know if that was all pvt income/gold shows income .. Or was some of it cammodels referral income ?

PrincessfromHell
07-28-2015, 07:25 PM
You said that!
I used to have 100 as a daily goal, few monts later it is 300...I can see 500 coming as I work more and get more regs and get them to indy. I pray, cam gods, I do pray hard...

Yes, but if she had multiple viewers at once it could add up fast.

I used to be really skeptical at this type of thing too and when people would post they made like $400 in a day I would think "yeah, right, lol", and then I did it myself and shocked the hell out of my own self. I thought - oh hell that was a fluke and then did it again a couple times and realized that yep I can do it too! and got really excited :) Now I've upped my goals and reaching them way more often. (I just wish I could do it on just one site like that, takes a major amount of working a lot of sites for me to do it but man does it feel good when I reach that goal)!

JennyCouture
07-28-2015, 11:38 PM
Do you know if that was all pvt income/gold shows income .. Or was some of it cammodels referral income ?


I believe it was mostly gold shows only, it was all earned not by cam referral income I THINK

JennyCouture
07-28-2015, 11:47 PM
ok so less then 100 was from cammodels refferals the rst pvts and gold shows