View Full Version : Recorded Shows on SM
laurielegs
03-27-2012, 10:55 AM
I'm wondering what she do in private (the same private always since is a recorded video) in case she gets full naked and masturbate (which we don't know, I dont know if this camdecoy software provide a full masturbation show) in case it does...she always provide the same pvt..so regular members of her should already notice this. And I doubt this 'girl' or 'guy' really provide any ID identification to SM, I suspect SM itself is behind all this.
Yes, they have to be aware because a good part of the feedback is pointing out that it's a recording, plus nobody can host that many hours. Apparently according to the camdecoy site it switches to another clip when Private (and has a black "connecting..." clip while switching).
I seem to remember someone got an answer from Streamate that it's a marketing experiment. Makes me a bit angry because to me it makes the site look bad and downgrades what real hosts provide.
Paola24
03-27-2012, 11:15 AM
What is also strange is that everytime she puts the black screen on ( to switch recordings) someone takes her to private chat. It never fails..
Decalyn
03-27-2012, 11:57 AM
I think SM might start caring if guys started demanding refunds. ;)
Superwoman1989
03-27-2012, 12:01 PM
don't ask me. everytime I've tried to look at her page (hear she's pretty popular) it says she's in private show. I've not seen her.
laurielegs
03-27-2012, 12:03 PM
I think SM might start caring if guys started demanding refunds. ;)
You would think so but they have been running that loop for a really long time. Streamate has to be behind it. MadisonQT has 352 member comments, many of which are complaints!
Lovelyx
03-27-2012, 04:57 PM
Marketing experiment??? So SM admit with this they are behind all this and they're the one who are using this MadisonQT to rip off money from members. This is not an experiment, this is a cheat...if this were an 'experiment' it wouldn't take YEARS ONLINE only a few hours and will have a big screen that will said 'testing only, no real performer' like Livejasmin does for example when they're testing. So, SM don't let us to put recorded shows of our own self, but they did buy camdecoy software create this scam and they have the guts to said 'ohhh is just an experiment from us' sure...a experiment of few years, 24 hours online, and making lots of money with 2 phrases 'mmmm lets pvt bb' why they don't put this 'experiment' at 0.99 per minute??? why at 4.99??..
Why SM needs to do this??? isn't enough money what they already have with the tons of girls there online??? isn't enough money what they have taking 75% of the earnings?? isn't enough money??? that they need to create girls bots to rip off more money??? Why they don't start to accept REAL girls more faster and stop putting so many stuff to people who wants to join the site to perform live, instead of creating this scam?
CassieHeart
03-27-2012, 08:06 PM
The thing is girls is none of these company's really give a shit anymore period... All they care about is the money with this slow economy. Just look at MFC they have strait hard core token shows in free chat with 2000 people watching some probably kids and teenagers.Also reading the rules no men aloud on MFC Girls have BJ shows all the time in free chat with the man not even registered. They just don't care....The same with SM i have reported countless girls and nothing is ever done.The people who own these sites are multi millionaires all they care about is their money that's it. And we can bitch and complain about it all we want but nothing will ever be done about it .
anonymous camgirl
03-28-2012, 01:39 PM
The reason being Cassie is because you and I and every girl is disposable and replaceable.. There always will be girls who sit around for hours without making money on these sites all over the world.. they don't really give a damn how great you are.. they will just get more girls.. who want to work. This is why I never complain about anything anymore to customer service on any site.. unless it's something minor.. like please reset my phone.. of course they will so i can make them more money.. One time.. I emailed streamate.. a few years ago and asked them if they could please make it so customers could not rate girls for 1 min shows.. they never responded and of course it still goes on.. I seem to recall there was no rating system when I first started... I don't like the rating system at all on any site IT makes me feel like i have to put up with alot of garbage or get rated badly.. Like I am at gun point..lol
laurielegs
03-28-2012, 03:28 PM
and yet another one: BrookeZ I notice none of the recordings have sound.
Honestly though I think although these are not good for the site as a whole, eventually the bigger spenders if they are even stupid enough to get tricked into buying a show, they are smart enough to realize it's a recording. There is only so much you can do with a recorded clip.
We are selling interaction and the bigger spenders want personal shows tailored to what they ask for, not recorded clips with no sound.
Holly_xoxo
03-28-2012, 03:54 PM
The people putting this together with the recorded shows have a huge scam going. They spam alot of people with stories of needing money followed by a link to sm where the guys think they're helping these girls out. I saw on youtube someone making a comment that the Madison one was asking for his credit card number. Whoever is behind it talks to alot of these guys through email where they build a "relationship" with them just so they can con them out of their money.
DiamondCupcakes
03-28-2012, 05:42 PM
This upsets me more than other girls breaking rules. I hate reading this because it pisses me off so much. Such BS! I read up on the cam program that allows you to do this. Hell you can have the recording play and sit on your laptop and just type responses or you can have generated ones. Well thats pretty f**in convenient. While I'm busting my ass some douchebag guy is sitting there on his ass making money doing nothing and taking our custies.
THANKS SM!
Someone should let the guys know that SM is doing this... it's ripping us AND them off. SM will lose money FAST as soon as the rumors begin to spread that they're doing this, and money talks.
shywebcamgirl
03-29-2012, 11:50 AM
But "outing" people on SW... unless I fell sleep and CC's rules changed, we're not supposed to be outing people here....everyone already knows about her.
I'd have to semantically argue that a recording of a model isn't really a model. (*shrugs*)
The thing is if everyone actually knew about the existence of this technology/model this thread wouldn't really have existed in the first place. I can tell you when I personally first found out -- it was truly an eye-opening experience about the world of being a webcam model and the companies that employ them. It is my personal opinion that this whole thread is a good PSA for new camgirls.
Cam_Model_Jess
03-29-2012, 12:20 PM
If she's running it herself, then I'd say it's the same as outing a model. And we can't really know for sure that she isn't doing it herself. But that's not really my place to decide. I'll let the mods decide that.
I guess you're right... not everyone knows. I think I was being a little general there. There are posts online in a few places about her. There are lots of comments on her page that warn the guys not to pay her. I think my main point was that we don't really know who is running it. And I was trying to dispel a rumor that was started by someone who I don't exactly think is reputable. And then I got carried away....
Lovelyx
03-29-2012, 12:42 PM
Yes, but we can be almost sure that SM had received plenty and plenty of complains about this MadisonQT as a recorded video (not only on the girl reviews...I bet lots of those members also had complain with SM CS) now..why SM hasn't done anything with her??? or he??? and continue letting this account years after running there and been in pvt 98% of the time. Is very rarely that a guy decide to read reviews from others...so the other guys 'warning' is something that only minor category of guys are really doing, and that's why this 'chic' is always in pvt. But SM knows about her, because is almost sure like I said that plenty of ppl had complain on her...and the only logical reason why SM still let 'her' here, is because SM have to do something with it...or SM and 'her' are close friends or something, because if some of us do the same thing..I bet our account will be banned in 1 week or less, but this madisonQT account is doing this thing since several years and nothing happens to 'her' or 'he'.
CassieHeart
03-29-2012, 01:07 PM
I busted her out on SM today. I told her everyone knows whats shes doing lol and she logged off.
Cam_Model_Jess
03-29-2012, 01:16 PM
It's extremely obvious to those sitting in free chat. I watched her one day and the loop was only 5 minutes long. Also, even though the loop was started at a different place each time, it was funny to watch when she would take her shirt off and put it back on. I think someone wasn't paying attention.
They approve comments about her being a recording. If it was SM doing it, I don't think they'd put up those comments. Why would they close her page if she's making them money though? We've all seen that SM doesn't care more about its image than its profit.
Decalyn
03-29-2012, 01:28 PM
I like the idea of just tattling to "her" room whenever "she" is on. If you tell the whole room that "she" is just a recording, they'll likely get a lil miffed. And if "she" logs out because of it (likely to reset the room and boot everyone from it) it's at least costing "her" money.
lolabunny
03-29-2012, 01:41 PM
Not to mention, its against the rules....SM is quick to call us out when we unknowingly violate a rule, but we're supposed to just turn the other cheek when THEY are breaking a rule...
Rule number 7: Your Account Will Be Closed For Fraudulent Activity*
Fraudulent activity* of any sort will not be tolerated - should your account receive numerous complaints, chargebacks or reports for fraud, your account will be terminated on the first offense and payments will be withheld. Streamate Limited reserves the right to terminate any account at any time for any reason if fraud is suspected.
anonymous camgirl
03-29-2012, 01:45 PM
Please don't hate me for saying this.. but when one focuses on others they forget about themselves.. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE?? and what concern is anything of anyone is to you?? Blinders on.. THIS IS YOUR LIFE! who cares what others are doing.. Again.. just food for thought.. focus on yourself.. forget the rest. you will get your REWARD or BIG PAYOFF by only worrying about yourself.. busy bodies never get anything done.. but aggravate others.
Decalyn
03-29-2012, 02:16 PM
Except, Anon, that this woman is a bot. It's likely some fat 30-something basement dwelling nerd who thinks he's clever as shit.
We're a community, like it or not. When someone does shit like this, it hurts everyone who's in the same category as her. This account is breaking the rules and taking patrons from US.
It's also a blatant example of SM favoring the moneymakers. This accound has been breaking the rules since 2010, and yet it is still running.
If one of us so much as takes too long stripping and a patron complains, we get a warning from SM to stop leading people on.
If you don't see the issue with that, and how it hurts the community and our incomes, then perhaps you're better suited to working solo rather than joining community discussions.
/endrant
laurielegs
03-29-2012, 02:37 PM
But "outing" people on SW... unless I fell sleep and CC's rules changed, we're not supposed to be outing people here. There are plenty of our forums where they do that, and people here regularly complain about those places. Everyone already knows about her. The guys even know. But they continue to spend on her. But I posted something a long time ago on here, before the rule about outing models, and I exposed someone who was outright lying to customers about her "pornstar" status and other things. I got a bunch of comments back saying "way to go, ruining her hustle." Unless we want to make very specific rules about who can out whom and under which circumstances (and who gets to decide all that)...
If you look at the camdecoy site - the software that runs it, the models seem to have sold their clips to the software company ahd have given them the right to provide their clips to be used with it.
Take a look at the software that was sold from that site. The sample models are included when you buy. Otherwise the software would be useless without the specific clips linked to the commands. It's a fairly complex system.
Also, the models in question could not be running the software all the time. There would have to be someone working in shifts, unless she truly is a robot and can go without sleep for weeks at a time, lol. Some of those model clips run 24/7 with a short 15 minute break here and there. Seem to be manned in shifts.
From the comments some of the guys are definitely deceived into thinking she is real. True, they have to be pretty stupid not to see it, but I really don't like the fact that it's going on.
anonymous camgirl
03-29-2012, 02:50 PM
I totally respect your opinion.. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE SHIT I HAVE SEEN> IN THE 10 YRS ON CAM! THE COUNTLESS SCAMS.. THE FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY.. IT'S REALLY A LOST CAUSE.. i WAS MERELY POINTING THAT OUT.
Except, Anon, that this woman is a bot. It's likely some fat 30-something basement dwelling nerd who thinks he's clever as shit.
We're a community, like it or not. When someone does shit like this, it hurts everyone who's in the same category as her. This account is breaking the rules and taking patrons from US.
It's also a blatant example of SM favoring the moneymakers. This accound has been breaking the rules since 2010, and yet it is still running.
If one of us so much as takes too long stripping and a patron complains, we get a warning from SM to stop leading people on.
If you don't see the issue with that, and how it hurts the community and our incomes, then perhaps you're better suited to working solo rather than joining community discussions.
/endrant
Fridays
03-29-2012, 05:00 PM
i think if this girl would be some ugly old foreign lady, no one would care....
its just cause her look is for a hot young willing american female that people are so pissed off about it...
cherryblossomsinspring
03-29-2012, 05:56 PM
i think if this girl would be some ugly old foreign lady, no one would care....
its just cause her look is for a hot young willing american female that people are so pissed off about it...
So true!
Personally I don't care. However what people should be bitching about is that shit percentage SM gives. 35%? and putting your vids up on tube sites for free. It doesn't piss me off because I think it's smart. If guys are paying for a recorded show then that's on them for being clueless. 5mins? and they're in and out? I wish I was smart enough to set up something like this and sit back and just get paid. Harassing the model isn't really productive when you could be spending time making money instead. If it's been 2 years then SM knows exactly what's going on and they don't care. So that goes to show you where their loyalty lies.
anonymous camgirl
03-29-2012, 06:04 PM
Thanks for saying that.. there is no loyalty that was what i was trying to convey in my post.. as a matter of fact I removed my listing from an indy site.. because they refused to re-issue my check to me because I had an old address on it. Even though I have been loyal and worked for them since 2005 they were more than happy to remove me so i could get my check.. the reason why it went down like that.. is the shows dwindled down to just a few shows per year.. I could be waiting for an entire year for 187 bucks!! so as you can see.. the site owner didn't care if i worked for him or not.. NO LOYALTY with anyone.. on a site, your mate, a friend.. NO ONE.. fuhgeddabout it.. but I must say!! BE LOYAL TO YOURSELF!!! I had a real problem all my life giving loyalty to people who didn't earn it until someone pointed that out to me.
So true!
Personally I don't care. However what people should be bitching about is that shit percentage SM gives. 35%? and putting your vids up on tube sites for free. It doesn't piss me off because I think it's smart. If guys are paying for a recorded show then that's on them for being clueless. 5mins? and they're in and out? I wish I was smart enough to set up something like this and sit back and just get paid. Harassing the model isn't really productive when you could be spending time making money instead. If it's been 2 years then SM knows exactly what's going on and they don't care. So that goes to show you where their loyalty lies.
lolabunny
03-29-2012, 10:12 PM
I honestly could care less abt what SM does or this camdecoy crap, just be fair...don't threaten to delete my account for unknowingly breaking a rule when this shit is going on lol "Several complaints????" Clearly breaking a rule lol
shywebcamgirl
03-30-2012, 07:00 AM
I think my main point was that we don't really know who is running it. And I was trying to dispel a rumor that was started by someone who I don't exactly think is reputable. And then I got carried away....
I fully agree with your main point. I don't think SM is running it either. It makes no logical sense.
shywebcamgirl
03-30-2012, 07:04 AM
I totally respect your opinion.. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE SHIT I HAVE SEEN> IN THE 10 YRS ON CAM! THE COUNTLESS SCAMS.. THE FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY.. IT'S REALLY A LOST CAUSE.. i WAS MERELY POINTING THAT OUT.
Depends on your definition of a lost cause. To me personally, education is not a lost cause. I need to know all the factors going on out in the battlefield to win my own personal war. ;)
Cam_Model_Jess
03-30-2012, 07:08 AM
I honestly could care less abt what SM does or this camdecoy crap, just be fair...don't threaten to delete my account for unknowingly breaking a rule when this shit is going on lol "Several complaints????" Clearly breaking a rule lol
I can certainly understand your frustration there.
shywebcamgirl
03-30-2012, 07:10 AM
i think if this girl would be some ugly old foreign lady, no one would care....
its just cause her look is for a hot young willing american female that people are so pissed off about it...
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd be just as pissed off about it.
For me it is the boldness and the unfairness of the technology.
Decalyn
03-30-2012, 09:09 AM
I totally respect your opinion.. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE SHIT I HAVE SEEN> IN THE 10 YRS ON CAM! THE COUNTLESS SCAMS.. THE FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY.. IT'S REALLY A LOST CAUSE.. i WAS MERELY POINTING THAT OUT.
I would think this was a capslock oops if not for the > which means you had shift pressed. .__. Please don't yell at me. It makes me sadface.
http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/b/a/bawww-plz.png?1
laurielegs
03-30-2012, 09:26 AM
I fully agree with your main point. I don't think SM is running it either. It makes no logical sense.
Well nobody is sure who is behind it but I can't see how it could be the model herself because it runs almost 24 hours a day, and there seem to be at least three of these going at a time so that'd be a pretty good staff of people to keep that running for 3 models round the clock. Someone has to sit there and respond and click the different comands. If it's not Streamate then I'm curious how they could have tricked Streamate into approving their IDs three times over. Even real models sometimes have a hard time with their documentation.
All this is just a guess though. I can't help but be curious about it.
Decalyn
03-30-2012, 09:47 AM
Well nobody is sure who is behind it but I can't see how it could be the model herself because it runs almost 24 hours a day, and there seem to be at least three of these going at a time so that'd be a pretty good staff of people to keep that running for 3 models round the clock. Someone has to sit there and respond and click the different comands. If it's not Streamate then I'm curious how they could have tricked Streamate into approving their IDs three times over. Even real models sometimes have a hard time with their documentation.
All this is just a guess though. I can't help but be curious about it.
The IDs might not be so hard. Every model comes with a fake driver's license from each state.
bigladyx
09-26-2012, 11:28 PM
wow..... bumping... bitch is still there
SarahTime
09-26-2012, 11:31 PM
It's really weird how high up they have her lately.... like row 3-4 on the first page every time they play the recordings.... she used to be like page 2 or 3 at least.... I wonder why they are putting her so high up????
People are so stupid to fall for it.
Classy_Katy
09-26-2012, 11:34 PM
There are guys who do this...record the girl/buy old private shows and then set up fake profiles on other sites and incredibly make money on it.
catgirl
09-28-2012, 07:41 AM
i made a thread about this a year ago, and then 2 months ago i received a point for "naming a model".. i was a lil annoyed about it because it's not really a "live" model.
i think that sm is behind this and is just trying to make as much money as they can.
i went in her room one time and tried typing "you're fake, who are you?" and before i could send it i was kicked and banned from the room! kinda weird that they could obviously see what i was typing, even before i sent it to the room.
how did she get back on page 1??? so creepy
temptingmodel
09-28-2012, 04:03 PM
maybe bc she works 120 hrs a week ;) I asked the same question
i made a thread about this a year ago, and then 2 months ago i received a point for "naming a model".. i was a lil annoyed about it because it's not really a "live" model.
i think that sm is behind this and is just trying to make as much money as they can.
i went in her room one time and tried typing "you're fake, who are you?" and before i could send it i was kicked and banned from the room! kinda weird that they could obviously see what i was typing, even before i sent it to the room.
how did she get back on page 1??? so creepy
There are actually a bunch of these profiles on SM (I have found maybe a dozen). Most I have found are set up as US 18-19years in age and have no sound in the room. The one thing that gives most of these profiles away other than the no sound is the color of the rooms wall, its seems the same for each profile like all of these were recorded in the same room.
I've also found one that has sound. The video runs on a 3 second to 4 second loop with audio playing two songs that run on a different loop. The girl is in the same colored room as the others but her profile country is listed as Estonia. Of course if you sit in her room longer than a minute you get dislodged.
justanothercamgirl
08-19-2016, 04:06 PM
Sorry to bounce such an old thread but I've just noticed that MadisonQT is no where to be found on Streamate these days.
Did they just change her name or are these bots actually gone now off of Streamate? O.O
Edited to add: Just went to check and it appears the last time the bot was on Streamate was Mar 28, 2015. Huh....that is interesting.
Erika_Xstacy
08-20-2016, 08:47 AM
Sorry to bounce such an old thread but I've just noticed that MadisonQT is no where to be found on Streamate these days.
Did they just change her name or are these bots actually gone now off of Streamate? O.O
Edited to add: Just went to check and it appears the last time the bot was on Streamate was Mar 28, 2015. Huh....that is interesting.
I assume QT became "dated" in looks and such
The video had to have sucked compared to actual streaming models
audritwo
08-20-2016, 08:54 AM
On Twitter girls were reporting every bot that would place in the contest. Like it blew up for awhile. Maybe they wised up and stopped broadcasting their fembots.
http://gif.co/xCbn.gif
LadyCoco
08-20-2016, 09:00 PM
On Twitter girls were reporting every bot that would place in the contest. Like it blew up for awhile. Maybe they wised up and stopped broadcasting their fembots.
http://gif.co/xCbn.gif
lmao that gif is cracking me up