View Full Version : The Clips4Sale Thread
Classy_Katy
08-01-2016, 10:32 PM
Has anyone here been getting an unusually high number of chargebacks on c4s or is it me? It started the month of July. I got 2 chargebacks for the first time ever and I have been on there for years. I was mad but let it go because it's the first time. Then next thing I know I am getting chargebacks every fuckin week. I start getting pissed off and asking them questions about this and they never replied which was unusual. Anytime I email support I get a response. Then at the end of July I got hit again. I checked my account and they are coming from Europe. It is the same guy. C4s is not where I make most of my video sales. Ive never made more than $300 a month on there but still, that's a significant amount of money when added with all my other sites. Finally I told them today when i got another this morning to close my account. Im not fucking making shit for the fun of it for free. I actually called them since they wouldn't respond to my support tickets. I been in this business a long time and I understand this can happen but not this much, and then the site admins were not responding to my support tickets? I have not logged on sw in a long time so I'm no longer in verified. Anyway just asking if there is anyone else and to beware.You may all not have had any problems for years and neither have I until the month of July. Just beware I am here as a fellow cammer/pso/clips girl to warn yall. I decided to come on here to let you ladies know because just a few minutes ago I received an email for yet again another cb. My account is closed now so I wont be dealing with this shit any longer and c4s will also not be making money off of me anymore. I feel dumb as if I just gave away videos in a fucking lottery or something. I probably wont even get paid if whoever this is keeps stealing my money. Out of all the years and all the sites I work with I have never received this amount of cb's. You think it wont happen to you? Think you'll always be safe posting your content that you work hard to make on c4s? Think again. I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else. Have a good day Im getting back to work now. Sorry for typos in advance I just came on here real quick to tell you this.
Studio Support are meant to ban customers who charge back...this shouldn't keep happening from the same guy.
Classy_Katy
08-01-2016, 10:59 PM
Sometimes when a clip isn't selling, I move it into a different category and that can spark off sales. It can still show up in the recent upload list.
Sinna (2pee4you)
08-02-2016, 08:07 AM
Hey,
I just noticed this "Clip file size greater than 2.5G must have a duration greater than 30 minutes."
So they changed it from 1586 MB to 2.5GB - that must mean that the overall allowed file size uploads increased I guess! yey! Time to try and find the new "limits" and forget about my clip length guide.. I hope. Why didn't they make an announcement about this? It's pretty huge..
Bootsie
08-02-2016, 09:14 AM
HOT DAMN I got my C4S direct deposit TODAY! Dancing in the streets over here!
justsometwat
08-02-2016, 09:36 AM
HOT DAMN I got my C4S direct deposit TODAY! Dancing in the streets over here!
Awww, you're so lucky. I just checked and I don't have mine. Bummer :P
Natalie0523
08-02-2016, 03:21 PM
HOT DAMN I got my C4S direct deposit TODAY! Dancing in the streets over here!
OMG. what. I haven't even checked my bank account today yet but if it's in that would be so awesome.
Update…
Yeah no lol. No direct deposit for me yet. But good for you Bootsie =)
EllieGold
08-02-2016, 08:36 PM
Nothing yet. I'm usually the first to always get mine. Are you US? For this payout? Isn't that early?
Bootsie
08-03-2016, 10:53 AM
I am a Canadian with a US bank account. Every month since I set it up my payment has been late as fuck and only came after I spammed Gia to remind her that I exist. I guess instead of running me with the rest of the US DD payments they are now running me ahead of them.
Lillyxxx
08-03-2016, 01:34 PM
I feel like my store is dying, new month- 0 sales, and very low traffic. I start to think that is something wrong, i never had so bad start of the month...How about your sales girls ?
Natalie0523
08-03-2016, 09:27 PM
I feel like my store is dying, new month- 0 sales, and very low traffic. I start to think that is something wrong, i never had so bad start of the month...How about your sales girls ?
I know it totally sucks when you feel you're putting in the work & not getting the results you want. Yesterday & the day before were really great. Today sucks asshole. I mean I have sales today but it's like meh.
Tomorrow's another day though. As soon as I'm done here I'm going to finish uploading my two new clips. Half the time it's my own fault because I procrastinate or get distracted with stupid shit online.
Hope the rest of the month gets better for you. Just keep at it. Sometimes I read porn stories & they give me ideas for new clips. I don't copy it exactly but it helps if I have clip making block =)
-Natalie
dahlia_love
08-04-2016, 03:38 AM
That is so fun! I do that when I feel low on ideas. I have a few new things to try this month, assuming I ever get the hang of filming without cat screams in the background or cat face in the foreground. I was just planning tomorrow's filming and the little fucker ran by, grabbed my pen in his teeth, and then ran off. I'm concerned that my cat is smarter than me.
I managed to pull out a decent July considering my brutally slow start, but I want to get back to June levels, which means I need to branch out and try some stuff I've been interested in and researching for a while but haven't pulled the trigger on. I also need to zero in on what has been working and what hasn't. Um, and find a use for the papier mache penis I made. I can't decide if I should use it as a huge CBT prop with knives and skewers or use it like a pinata and bash it with a baseball bat. The cat was sleeping on it earlier but woke up and ran off before I could take a picture.
OMG my cat is the exact same way!!!! She's dumb though, like tries to drink boiling water or jumps in the shower with me hahaha. I seriously lover her to pieces though and she's just a kitty but she'll go around meowing obnoxiously for hours if she feels she isn't getting enough attention. Anyway, have you considered doing a "crushing fetish" video with your pinata? Put on some heels and stomp that bitch to pieces haha, I bet guys would eat that up!
Bootsie
08-04-2016, 11:21 AM
OMG my cat is the exact same way!!!! She's dumb though, like tries to drink boiling water or jumps in the shower with me hahaha. I seriously lover her to pieces though and she's just a kitty but she'll go around meowing obnoxiously for hours if she feels she isn't getting enough attention. Anyway, have you considered doing a "crushing fetish" video with your pinata? Put on some heels and stomp that bitch to pieces haha, I bet guys would eat that up!
Oh. My. God. I'm going to stomp the penis! It will break my heart a bit to stomp it up, but the fun factor will make up for it.
boyru
08-04-2016, 12:05 PM
I feel like my store is dying, new month- 0 sales, and very low traffic. I start to think that is something wrong, i never had so bad start of the month...How about your sales girls ?
I have 9 sales in this month and lowest traffic (~400 daily).
I have this because they can not remove hundreds unnecessary files...
Tea4Me
08-04-2016, 08:38 PM
Is it just my imagination or did C4S use to have a jerk off encouragement (JOE) category? I could have swore they used to and I remember thinking it was a bit repetitive since they already have JOI (jerk off instruction). Not a big deal. I was just browsing categories and noticed that and had wondered if they had consolidated a few categories/fetishes.
I feel like my store is dying, new month- 0 sales, and very low traffic. I start to think that is something wrong, i never had so bad start of the month...How about your sales girls ?
Yeah this month started slow for me but don't worry it will get better soon. I thought July is going to be my worst month ever and in the last 10 days I had gorillions of sales.
Classy_Katy
08-04-2016, 10:04 PM
Is it just my imagination or did C4S use to have a jerk off encouragement (JOE) category? I could have swore they used to and I remember thinking it was a bit repetitive since they already have JOI (jerk off instruction). Not a big deal. I was just browsing categories and noticed that and had wondered if they had consolidated a few categories/fetishes.
I don't think they did and I always felt that we needed it rather than multiple JOI categories.
Classy_Katy
08-04-2016, 10:08 PM
I feel like my store is dying, new month- 0 sales, and very low traffic. I start to think that is something wrong, i never had so bad start of the month...How about your sales girls ?
Hopefully things have picked up for you now but if it keeps up, try expanding into new categories and see where that goes.
dahlia_love
08-05-2016, 03:34 AM
OMG my cat is the exact same way!!!! She's dumb though, like tries to drink boiling water or jumps in the shower with me hahaha. I seriously lover her to pieces though and she's just a kitty but she'll go around meowing obnoxiously for hours if she feels she isn't getting enough attention. Anyway, have you considered doing a "crushing fetish" video with your pinata? Put on some heels and stomp that bitch to pieces haha, I bet guys would eat that up!
Awesome! What is your clip store? Do you have a twitter? I kind of want to see this! Looks fun!
SophiaSylvan
08-05-2016, 06:12 AM
They have "masturbation encouragement" last time I checked.
chloemay
08-05-2016, 07:10 AM
I have 9 sales in this month and lowest traffic (~400 daily).
I have this because they can not remove hundreds unnecessary files...
Please explain what your traffic has to do with unnecessary files. People clicking don't see your back end.
misspandora
08-05-2016, 12:54 PM
I put a hiccuping clip up thinking it was stupid and would NEVER sell. I sold 15 of that video in 2 days. Booyah! SO yes, My best clips hardly sell. The most random ones will sell! :)
YES! My hiccuping clips sell like crazy!
I wish I could hiccup on command--i'd be rich!!!
lil_smiley
08-06-2016, 08:26 AM
have you girls received international wire payments yet?
Incantatious
08-06-2016, 08:47 AM
have you girls received international wire payments yet?
Nothing here yet. The 7th is a Sunday so I'm expecting mine on the 8th.
LadyCoco
08-06-2016, 12:16 PM
How many stores can you own on here?
EllieGold
08-06-2016, 01:33 PM
i used to think it was 3. I have a total of 3 and hubby has 2 open at the moment. Wish we could do more honestly.
Bootsie
08-06-2016, 05:14 PM
Someone once told me it was 5, but I have no idea a) who it was or b) if that was true.
I keep thinking I might do better if I divided my store into 2 or 3 (one for most stuff, one for 1 or 2 of the "gross" fetishes I particularly enjoy, and one for domme-ish stuff) but the thought of logging into each one and trying to keep them all updated with enough content...it just makes me shudder. Plus, even though right now I am in a bit of a domme mindset, I know I will run out of ideas there pretty quickly, and a "gross" store would get 1 update a week and then a second update every 2-3 weeks. Aside from my domme stuff not selling very well, which I don't know if that is because it's mixed in with other things or because guys don't dig me much as a domme, I don't see that much of a benefit.
What are some reasons you choose to have separate stores?
Classy_Katy
08-07-2016, 01:07 AM
I have separate stores for categories that I think would put off customers wanting the more mainstream clips. i think that's especially important for domination...these customers like to see you as a full time Mistress, so suddenly being presented with clips of you on the toilet etc, is bound to have an impact.
Fk it I'm not working this month. >:( I get 2-3 sales every day and I'm still in top10 in my main category.
DonaDiabla
08-07-2016, 03:32 AM
Can someone explain the whole love addiction category on there? I mean is that a fetish that I could look up. Because I have been trying to crack that category for some months now :)
Bootsie
08-07-2016, 07:14 AM
Aw crap. Some guy bought the same clip 4 times. How the hell does that even happen? I anticipate a refund coming.
Incantatious
08-07-2016, 10:47 AM
Aw crap. Some guy bought the same clip 4 times. How the hell does that even happen? I anticipate a refund coming.
I've had that happen a couple times recently! Weirdly enough though, no refunds! O_o Maybe they're still coming to get me, lol, but I'd have thought it'd have been sooner. Keeping my fingers crossed for both of us! XD
justsometwat
08-07-2016, 10:57 AM
C4S might allow them to get other videos (from your store) that are the same price when this happens? I know it's happened on other sites before.
Tea4Me
08-07-2016, 02:30 PM
Just noticed there is a (new) Shiny Clothing category. I was just saying a few pages back (in this thread) that there should be a shiny clothing/fetish category and now there is!
Just wanted to add, I guess there is an updated list on the C4S blog: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/new-categories-added/
Bootsie
08-07-2016, 07:08 PM
Can someone explain the whole love addiction category on there? I mean is that a fetish that I could look up. Because I have been trying to crack that category for some months now :)
Well, the best thing would obviously be to look at the previews and descriptions of top clips and studios in that category. Sounds interesting...'scuse me while I go check it out...
Incantatious
08-08-2016, 12:10 AM
8am in the UK here, wire not come through yet.. Trying not to panic too early though! Agh!
dahlia_love
08-08-2016, 12:45 AM
I'm so jealous of everyone getting payouts this month! I just started my store last week but I'm HELLA excited because I had a guy today buy SEVEN CLIPS!!!! I made other sales today as well but SEVEN CLIPS! In one order! Happy dance, yay! Also, how long do you tend to make your clips? I've noticed my 2 minute clips sell the most, my 4 minute clips sell decently and my 15 minute clips only get a small nibble. I don't know if this is because I'm new and clients are testing the water? Or do you think they just like small clips in general? I have a 4/20 coughing smoke/cough video up that's 15 minutes and only one sale. I made a second 4/20 video that's 4 minutes long to experiment and see if the time frame makes a difference. What sort of experiences have you ladies had? Are 15 minute vids a waste of time?
lucymariexxxx
08-08-2016, 01:32 AM
I am also in the UK, and no payout. I expected the payment on friday as the 7th fell over the weekend. I emailed tehm and she said they were sent out on Friday...so I am not sure why they are not showing today?
Incantatious
08-08-2016, 06:06 AM
I am also in the UK, and no payout. I expected the payment on friday as the 7th fell over the weekend. I emailed tehm and she said they were sent out on Friday...so I am not sure why they are not showing today?
Mine's still not through yet either. Was expecting it today. I think they're not showing today because C4S international wire payments have fucked right up since a couple months ago and they still don't seem to have corrected the issue.
Incantatious
08-08-2016, 08:13 AM
This from Support:
"All payments should arrive the middle for this week. They
were sent out on the 5th and can take 3 days to arrive, not including weekends."
Here we go again.
Tea4Me
08-08-2016, 08:24 AM
I'm so jealous of everyone getting payouts this month! I just started my store last week but I'm HELLA excited because I had a guy today buy SEVEN CLIPS!!!! I made other sales today as well but SEVEN CLIPS! In one order! Happy dance, yay! Also, how long do you tend to make your clips? I've noticed my 2 minute clips sell the most, my 4 minute clips sell decently and my 15 minute clips only get a small nibble. I don't know if this is because I'm new and clients are testing the water? Or do you think they just like small clips in general? I have a 4/20 coughing smoke/cough video up that's 15 minutes and only one sale. I made a second 4/20 video that's 4 minutes long to experiment and see if the time frame makes a difference. What sort of experiences have you ladies had? Are 15 minute vids a waste of time?
Congrats on your first big clip order! :-)
My clips average from around 8-13 minutes. Once in a while I might do one shorter but not very often because I don't feel like it's worth the time and energy to shoot/edit/make gif/write description for the smaller return $$$. My longer clips sell just as well as the shorter ones, so I don't notice a difference.
One thing you'll notice, as time goes on, is that it's all just one ongoing experiment. And once steady sales come, you will feel more comfortable to try/test new things....longer clips, different fetishes, etc.
This from Support:
"All payments should arrive the middle for this week. They
were sent out on the 5th and can take 3 days to arrive, not including weekends."
Here we go again.
Oh god, please no!
pamperz
08-08-2016, 09:31 AM
Did any international sellers get paid on time/ at all last month?
I didn't receive a payment because I was paid twice in June due to an error or something, so that double payment was subtracted from last month's paycheck, therefore I didn't receive anything (which was expected)
yumei
08-08-2016, 09:34 AM
I get paid on time in July.Im from Europe.
pamperz
08-08-2016, 09:41 AM
I get paid on time in July.Im from Europe.
Thanks for letting us know. This gives me more hope that we could get paid within the next few days as last month the 7th fell on a Thursday.
It's frustrating that we wont be getting paid til nearly the middle of the month though... I remember before they changed banks I used to receive my payment on the 3rd or 4th some months. (I'm in Canada btw)
EllieGold
08-08-2016, 10:04 AM
my sales have been better in August than July, that's for sure. Hopefully the rest of August will pick up more so I can make rent next month and not rely on camming anymore. Is summer usually this slumpy tho?
pamperz
08-08-2016, 10:29 AM
my sales have been better in August than July, that's for sure. Hopefully the rest of August will pick up more so I can make rent next month and not rely on camming anymore. Is summer usually this slumpy tho?
I'm not sure as I wasn't selling on c4s last summer. My sales actually went up in July and I had a great month.
The biggest slump I noticed this year was Jan/Feb, typical post-Christmas slump...it happens in retail and I guess it happens in porn too :P
Natalie0523
08-08-2016, 02:20 PM
I'm so jealous of everyone getting payouts this month! I just started my store last week but I'm HELLA excited because I had a guy today buy SEVEN CLIPS!!!! I made other sales today as well but SEVEN CLIPS! In one order! Happy dance, yay! Also, how long do you tend to make your clips? I've noticed my 2 minute clips sell the most, my 4 minute clips sell decently and my 15 minute clips only get a small nibble. I don't know if this is because I'm new and clients are testing the water? Or do you think they just like small clips in general? I have a 4/20 coughing smoke/cough video up that's 15 minutes and only one sale. I made a second 4/20 video that's 4 minutes long to experiment and see if the time frame makes a difference. What sort of experiences have you ladies had? Are 15 minute vids a waste of time?
Congrats on your new store and seven clip sale =) It's always so awesome when I go check my email, open it & see a big clip order. That's very exciting.
In regards to the clip time….For me it really depends. I have five minute clips and I have nineteen minute clips. My nineteen minute clips usually sell well. My longer clips are mostly the taboo/role-play scenarios so there's a bunch of fetishes/elements I incorporate into that one clip. My toilet fetish, mouth fetish, foot fetish & other body fetishes I try to keep under ten minutes.
As someone else said, it's an ongoing experiment of what works and what doesn't. Even now, I've been on C4S for over two years and I'll go to make a clip (thinking it's going to sell) and it won't sell as well as I had expected. There are just so many factors that go into making a sale.
You just have to keep at it, even on the sucky days. Like last week, I had four sucky days in a row. And I felt like saying fuck it! But that's not the right attitude. And saying fuck it won't help my sales. So I kept at it and now the past few days have been getting back to normal. Maybe most of my customers went on vacation or something lol who knows. Those four days threw me off because I hadn't had such low sales like that in a very, very long time.
But to to be honest with you it humbled me. Because I was starting to take my sales for granted and being all like yeahhh this is awesome and I'm awesome blah blah. I was putting in the work but it's never good to get too cocky, no matter what you do. Confident yes, cocky no lol.
But anyways, let me go to my store now & upload some clips.
Hope everyone has a good productive day.
yumei
08-09-2016, 02:04 AM
Girls, Ive got my payment.
This time from german bank, lol
edit: but they also take an extra 58$ from my payment.Last time 27$ extra, this time 58$, really f awesome..
Lillyxxx
08-09-2016, 03:26 AM
Got my money today, from Canada, missing 11$, not much, but last month there was something about that amount missing too. And it's not fair, it doesn't matter how much is missing, in a year it could add up...i lose the trust to c4s, now i never know what will happend in next months. And reading all this comments, about different problems with them, makes me wanna quit this site, i never made there some big amounts, a little more than the average in my country, what makes me enough happy to not working in a normal job. In this month i start camming again, after a long pause- it's not that bad, and thanks girls for all the answers when i asked about the sales in this month, but i think for a while i will stop uploading clips, at least in this month, becouse i made just 2 sales, so it's not worth my time. I think i will wait for the situation in c4s gets better...
hottieAnn
08-09-2016, 03:38 AM
Got my money today, from Canada, missing 11$, not much, but last month there was something about that amount missing too. And it's not fair, it doesn't matter how much is missing, in a year it could add up...i lose the trust to c4s, now i never know what will happend in next months. And reading all this comments, about different problems with them, makes me wanna quit this site, i never made there some big amounts, a little more than the average in my country, what makes me enough happy to not working in a normal job. In this month i start camming again, after a long pause- it's not that bad, and thanks girls for all the answers when i asked about the sales in this month, but i think for a while i will stop uploading clips, at least in this month, becouse i made just 2 sales, so it's not worth my time. I think i will wait for the situation in c4s gets better...
And I have 164.07 $ less :P Ok- 45$ is payout so I have less 119.07 $ . Still a lot :P
F u c k :(