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Lilypussy
10-13-2016, 05:57 AM
If you use Google to convert from $ to £ do you find it is accurate then just minus the £9 fee?
I'm having major anxiety about my bank account right now am due a cheque anyway in the post and whal cry if I get £60 taken off. I have no explanation of the fees that can tell what fees have been taken
Classy_Katy
10-13-2016, 06:53 AM
It won't be the same as the exchange rate that you google, banks always give a worse exchange rate than the official rate but it's certainly close enough and I know that Barclays charge at a flat rate, not by the amount of the cheque.
I would ask your bank what charges they are applying.
CatBBW
10-13-2016, 08:12 AM
I'm only paying £9 per cheque with Barclays and it clears the next day.
I am definitely changing banks. I too am with Barclays, and have waited FOUR WEEKS so far for both SM and C4S checks that I deposited in branch. It's a joke. All they ever tell me is that "they could take up to 6 weeks or more". I have had checks from both sites before, so it's not like it's the first time (which - incidentally - did clear the next day the very first time I deposited the first payments from the sites).
Lilypussy
10-13-2016, 08:37 AM
Hmm have they been sent for collection?
With Lloyd's I fill out a form and there is a box that staff have ticked once. It was awful over Christmas with zero money!
Normally they they cash the cheque then get the money from the company with collection they actually collect the funds from the company before paying you. Think it's aimed for if it's a bit dodgy. I explained I get a cheque every month from this company so they trust it and don't tick the box
Classy_Katy
10-13-2016, 09:23 AM
I don't know what they're doing with your cheques Cat...since after my first cheque, mine have always cleared the next day. That's 4 years now.
CatBBW
10-13-2016, 09:41 AM
Hmm have they been sent for collection?
With Lloyd's I fill out a form and there is a box that staff have ticked once. It was awful over Christmas with zero money!
Normally they they cash the cheque then get the money from the company with collection they actually collect the funds from the company before paying you. Think it's aimed for if it's a bit dodgy. I explained I get a cheque every month from this company so they trust it and don't tick the box
By jove, I think you've cracked it! When I first deposited a US check, they told me I had to tick the Collection box, so I've been doing that ever since!! OK, next time I'm not ticking anything, just to see what happens!
victoriavein
10-13-2016, 01:52 PM
I feel sooooo stupid talking to a camera. this is why i cant do youtube either. how do you get over this?
CatBBW
10-13-2016, 02:17 PM
I feel sooooo stupid talking to a camera. this is why i cant do youtube either. how do you get over this?
Keep going :) The more you do, the easier it gets. And try imagining the camera is a silent person. Look into its eye, interact with it. All your fans are in there ;)
Sinna (2pee4you)
10-13-2016, 03:00 PM
UK girls how do you get paid and what charges do you get?
I feel like a fucking idiot I've been going through my bank statement online. I don't know how I've not noticed this.
I get paid Cheque and use lollyds bank. Pain in ass going in branch each month. But I thought i was being charged £7.
I've just checked using google to convert amounts and I'm actually being charged like 60/70/80 pounds. I have gone back months and checked amounts and apparently I've always been charged alot.
I don't know how I've not noticed. I swear I remember being paid, checking amounts and it being only the £7 down.
Maybe I stopped checking as it seemed right. I'm permanently sleep deprived and stressed out so find it hard to keep in top of things. But i still cant believe the hundreds of pounds I've apparently lost. The fact I have vague memories of checking the amount and it being correct then makes me wonder if at the time it was right but the exchange rate has changed from when it was cashed 1/2 years ago. But I don't see it would change that much and last few months are still huge charges.
I'm in tears as I don't earn much and need every penny with a family to support. How have I gone so long. I keep thinking there's some explanation like Google isn't actually accurate or something.
Sorry long post. Tired stressed and annoyed. Lloyd's website is very vague and just says "charges no more than £80"
I still remember the day when I noticed that very same thing. I "lost" 80-90$ on every payout. I thought I'd go back to check after that, because if you add that up, it's $1000 / year just "lost" somewhere.
I never did though. Having the money in my account is pretty convenient and c4s has announced that they look into lowering the fees. Since this banking change, I get paid from a bank around the corner, not from a US bank. So I think there should be no fees anymore. I am in Europe.
Classy_Katy
10-14-2016, 01:15 AM
I feel sooooo stupid talking to a camera. this is why i cant do youtube either. how do you get over this?
I was camming before I started making clips, which helped me...just imagine you're talking to someone watching you through the camera :)
justsometwat
10-14-2016, 03:56 AM
To build on that advice.... Don't look at yourself on the screen! It looks really odd and breaks the connection between you and the person watching the video. It feels more like you're really talking to them when you look into the camera :)
bootiebabe
10-14-2016, 06:43 AM
Any girls from uk wire got paid yet? f in fuming now told by gia up to 5 days from the 7th and still no pay - sick to death of being fobbed off!!!! Truth no matter how hard would be the best option c4s you wankers!!!
Incantatious
10-14-2016, 07:02 AM
Any girls from uk wire got paid yet? f in fuming now told by gia up to 5 days from the 7th and still no pay - sick to death of being fobbed off!!!! Truth no matter how hard would be the best option c4s you wankers!!!
I've still not been paid either, so now it's going to be ANOTHER fucking week of waiting. AGAIN.
I've had enough of this bullshit too. It's disgusting that they're still charging $45 for their shit service; their nonchalant message responses have become disgusting at this point: They don't bother to notify us about what the fuck is going on with our pay unless we message them. At this point, those of us who have been fucked about for MONTHS with this shit deserve better than a $45 charge, or even a $45 refund. We deserve a COMPENSATION if anything, for continuing to work and support this bullshit in the face of what they're doing to our money.
Missjayne77
10-16-2016, 11:44 PM
Australian here - and yep no payment yet again.. Kinda getting used to it.
Incantatious
10-17-2016, 12:40 AM
Still no fucking money. I actually NEED it at this point. Thank god I have people in my life who are happy to help me out as I'm going through this.
I know that if I email C4S "support", they'll only fob me off with some shitty, meaningless response and I'll still have to wait.
Anyone know if we can take any sort of legal action against C4S for them doing this? I'd love to fuck them as hard as they've fucked us.
Classy_Katy
10-17-2016, 04:54 AM
Can you switch to cheques? They are reliable...and a lot cheaper.
Incantatious
10-17-2016, 06:48 AM
Can you switch to cheques? They are reliable...and a lot cheaper.
I've kinda heard too many horror stories with those, too, even when the site has been running as normal. - I mean crazy bank fees and more fees taken out and things like that. I don't think I'd like to risk that to be honest. I just want the site to pay as normal.
Classy_Katy
10-17-2016, 07:22 AM
I've kinda heard too many horror stories with those, too, even when the site has been running as normal. - I mean crazy bank fees and more fees taken out and things like that. I don't think I'd like to risk that to be honest. I just want the site to pay as normal.
Really?! You just need to check whether your bank charges a set fee or one based on the value. Barclays charges a set fee of £9. There will always be a variation between the exchange rate we google and the exchange rate that the bank uses. My first cheque took 5 days to clear but since then it's been the next day...it's been that way since 2012 and I've never had a problem receiving a cheque from C4S.
Sara - Clips4Sale.com
10-18-2016, 07:15 AM
Hi -
Can anyone who is still awaiting their payout please email me directly with your payable name and store number?
[email protected]
Thank you -
sexysusie
10-18-2016, 07:53 AM
I've kinda heard too many horror stories with those, too, even when the site has been running as normal. - I mean crazy bank fees and more fees taken out and things like that. I don't think I'd like to risk that to be honest. I just want the site to pay as normal.
USD Cheques are really inconvenient. I don't think the US sites realise this but UK banks are reluctant to deal with them at all. They will do so, but subject to charges (which range from £5 - £20), and it can take from 4 days to 6 weeks to receive the money (I have experienced both timings). At any time during this wait they can decide not to process it at all, then it has to go back to the originating payer and they have to issue a new payment. It once took me over 4 months to get paid from NF which is why I barely work there now. I have found tsb to be the cheapest at £5 and the quickest at 3 days, but i still much prefer not to have cheques.
C4S and NF REALLY need to get on payoneer!
Sara - Clips4Sale.com
10-18-2016, 08:01 AM
USD Cheques are really inconvenient. I don't think the US sites realise this but UK banks are reluctant to deal with them at all. They will do so, but subject to charges (which range from £5 - £20), and it can take from 4 days to 6 weeks to receive the money (I have experienced both timings). At any time during this wait they can decide not to process it at all, then it has to go back to the originating payer and they have to issue a new payment. It once took me over 4 months to get paid from NF which is why I barely work there now. I have found tsb to be the cheapest at £5 and the quickest at 3 days, but i still much prefer not to have cheques.
C4S and NF REALLY need to get on payoneer!
Hello -
We do provide Payoneer as a payment option.
Contact
[email protected] for more information.
Incantatious
10-18-2016, 08:20 AM
Hello -
We do provide Payoneer as a payment option.
Contact
[email protected] for more information.
Heya, can we get paid through Payoneer without having the Payoneer card? I get paid via Payoneer from another site and it takes just 3 working days and like a $5 fee. Are C4S now doing this the same way?
sexysusie
10-18-2016, 08:22 AM
^^ Do you mean global bank transfer? Cause yeah that would be SO cool. Please say you are partnered with them for that Sara x
Sara - Clips4Sale.com
10-18-2016, 08:34 AM
Heya, can we get paid through Payoneer without having the Payoneer card? I get paid via Payoneer from another site and it takes just 3 working days and like a $5 fee. Are C4S now doing this the same way?
Hi -
Gia has all of the information about Payoneer and how the account is set up.
You do need to have a Payoneer card with them though.
Just email her for details:
[email protected]
Sara - Clips4Sale.com
10-18-2016, 08:36 AM
^^ Do you mean global bank transfer? Cause yeah that would be SO cool. Please say you are partnered with them for that Sara x
Hi -
You need to have a Payoneer card and it's then withdrawals from the card like a debit card.
Just email Gia for details:
[email protected]
hottieAnn
10-18-2016, 08:41 AM
Hi -
You need to have a Payoneer card and it's then withdrawals from the card like a debit card.
Just email Gia for details:
[email protected]
My friend use without Card. Payoner send money at bank account bit i dont know how she did it. ..probably Payonera support can help.
Incantatious
10-19-2016, 01:34 AM
Finally paid, 13 days late and with $12 missing.
lil_smiley
10-19-2016, 01:49 AM
I still have not been paid and I have no idea when its gonna happen as I don't want to get Payoneer card as it has too many fees
sexysusie
10-19-2016, 04:31 AM
I hate the card too. I don't make much there anymore though so might do it and just keep c4s money for occasional spends. Thanks Sara for letting us know.
boyru
10-19-2016, 12:43 PM
I still have -$400 on my account and dont have sales.
CatBBW
10-22-2016, 05:43 AM
Just contacted support AGAIN because my studio/store is STILL not showing up on the home page when you search for keywords OR full titles. It only shows if you enter the actual name of my store. Grrrrrr!
CatBBW
10-22-2016, 05:56 AM
OK, wtf?! My husband's studio doesn't appear on the homepage either!! The studios aren't linked, so can't be that.
Is anyone else having this problem??
CatBBW
10-22-2016, 07:37 AM
Support replied to both tickets, apparantly when they search for clips, the studios are appearing ??
EDIT - I sent a screenshot, they've referred the problem to their programmers.
Classy_Katy
10-22-2016, 10:00 AM
Adding featured clips is not as easy as it was.
Sinna (2pee4you)
10-22-2016, 02:55 PM
I agree, they made it worse.
EllieGold
10-22-2016, 08:17 PM
I know I gripe a lot lately but I still am thankful I have this site. If I didn't have this as an income, I'd be screwed. I love being a content girl over camming! This month has been tough, but my husband made more so far than my femdom store, so there's that. I hope November is better though...
*Sorry wanted to post something positive in this thread*.
EllieGold
10-22-2016, 08:18 PM
Just contacted support AGAIN because my studio/store is STILL not showing up on the home page when you search for keywords OR full titles. It only shows if you enter the actual name of my store. Grrrrrr!
My store had troubles and I hit up support and it seemed to get fixed after. Not sure what caused it though.
CatBBW
10-24-2016, 04:14 PM
Am I "too small" for the SSBBW category?
I am asking because whenever I upload into the SSBBW category, I get 100s more hits than usual, but no sales. It's happened today too. To put this into perspective, I am about 5'2" and weigh 280 pounds. I have a large round belly, and big tits, thighs, ass etc. Here in UK, that is classed as SSBBW (I would be classed as BBW from around 180 pounds at my height here in UK) but I am nowhere close to the SSBBWs from America etc on C4S...
Am I advertising in the wrong category, seeing as 90% of my sales (of OTHER clips) have been from USA, with the other 10% from mainland Europe?
Thanks :)
DonaDiabla
10-24-2016, 08:21 PM
Hey CatBBW,
I would just advertise yourself in the BBW category. Because SSBBW usually means women who are bigger than 280 in America. I hope that helps, CatBBW.
Am I "too small" for the SSBBW category?
I am asking because whenever I upload into the SSBBW category, I get 100s more hits than usual, but no sales. It's happened today too. To put this into perspective, I am about 5'2" and weigh 280 pounds. I have a large round belly, and big tits, thighs, ass etc. Here in UK, that is classed as SSBBW (I would be classed as BBW from around 180 pounds at my height here in UK) but I am nowhere close to the SSBBWs from America etc on C4S...
Am I advertising in the wrong category, seeing as 90% of my sales (of OTHER clips) have been from USA, with the other 10% from mainland Europe?
Thanks :)
caramelcraze
10-25-2016, 11:21 AM
Am I "too small" for the SSBBW category?
I am asking because whenever I upload into the SSBBW category, I get 100s more hits than usual, but no sales. It's happened today too. To put this into perspective, I am about 5'2" and weigh 280 pounds. I have a large round belly, and big tits, thighs, ass etc. Here in UK, that is classed as SSBBW (I would be classed as BBW from around 180 pounds at my height here in UK) but I am nowhere close to the SSBBWs from America etc on C4S...
Am I advertising in the wrong category, seeing as 90% of my sales (of OTHER clips) have been from USA, with the other 10% from mainland Europe?
Thanks :)
I'd try it! Maybe do a measuring clip... I see those sell like mad!
caramelcraze
10-25-2016, 11:28 AM
I wish c4s would completely get rid of charge backs except in extreme cases. Like I just got hit with a $50 one even though they're clips that sell well (so I know they aren't messed up) & the dude's IP address matches his current residence. Like unless somebody else in his house stole his card, there's a very low possibility that he wasn't the one who purchased them. penalizing a model for some asshat buying a bunch of clips isn't fair at all. unfuckingbelievable.
melizabeth
10-25-2016, 05:07 PM
Seriously though. I was (coincidentally) just charged back for a $50 order yesterday. The dude ordered them in AUGUST. How is he able to refund a multi-clip order NOW? Same deal- he bought multiple well-selling vids, so I KNOW there was nothing wrong with the files. Its not fair that these dudes are able to jerk off to our videos, then refund it MONTHS later when they're feeling strapped for cash... essentially getting all those videos for free.
Tea4Me
10-25-2016, 05:10 PM
I wish c4s would completely get rid of charge backs except in extreme cases. Like I just got hit with a $50 one even though they're clips that sell well (so I know they aren't messed up) & the dude's IP address matches his current residence. Like unless somebody else in his house stole his card, there's a very low possibility that he wasn't the one who purchased them. penalizing a model for some asshat buying a bunch of clips isn't fair at all. unfuckingbelievable.
I know, it sucks. I agree. But I don't think C4S should be held responsible for the chargebacks though. (Just my opinion....) Had that customer bought anything of yours before? About 98% of the time I've had chargebacks, they have been new customers. I wonder if that guy had a history buying clips on C4S, because if he did, he just fucked that up with one chargeback. I wonder if guys are aware of this when they do chargebacks.....the fact that they have now blacklisted themselves from buying on C4S again. Once or twice I've had a regular customer do a chargeback/refund and I noticed they were able to buy clips again. C4S told me the customer 'paid back' the amount of the chargeback/refund, so they were allowed to buy clips again. *BUT* I wasn't paid back the money (and was supposed to be), so I had to open a ticket and I was eventually credited the money.
I most DEFINITELY feel there should tighter restrictions on chargebacks in regards to adult related products. It's not our fault they have post-cum remorse, or drink and clip binge or they are worried wifey might find out. And I do appreciate the precautions that C4S take with new customers who place BIG first time orders. But I wish there was something more. Because chargebacks are really theft. It's not like we can get our clips back.
Sinna (2pee4you)
10-26-2016, 04:17 AM
I just had a look and since I started in 2013, 0.005% of my total earnings were refunded or charged back. Both. So actual chargebacks are even lower.
I once heard that everything below 1% can't even be considered high risk. Maybe it's time for the payment providers to rethink - or admit that they just don't want to be associated with porn and actually don't care that much about the chargeback rate.
By the way, the longest period between a purchase and chargeback that I had, was more than 2 years. That was when I still believed they would not honor anything past 6 months, because there was some law or something that stated that you could not expect your money back when you charge back way late (6 months).
However, if the bank wants the money back, they just take it and c4s does not seem to fight chargebacks on grounds of elapsed time between purchase and chargeback. At least not in my case.
By the way, a chargeback is not about your clip quality or working clips. It's a guy/girl calling the bank and saying "someone else used my card, that wasn't me!". Basically mostly fraud or what tea4me said.
If a clip is broken / glitched / wrong content / not as advertised, that would be a case for a refund. However, if it's really a technical issue (broken vid), you SHOULD first get 24hours to fix the file, then the customer gets the new file and no refund is issued. However, sometimes they issue a refund before giving you a chance to fix things or they offer another file of yours as compensation. This should normally not happen and is mostly due to new staff not knowing the refund policy though.
caramelcraze
10-26-2016, 08:56 AM
I cam primarily, so I have a bit of a strong view on charge backs. I did a 5hr cam show for some dude earlier this year and ended up having the entire thing charged back. over a grand worth of $ down the toilet & hours wasted due to no fault of my own. If a service is successfully given as advertised, there is absolutely no reason the models should suffer. Sure, if it's a foot fetish clip and you have it in the nose fetish category, I understand why there maybe a charge back. If you have a toe wiggling clip in the toe category that explicitly says "I wiggle my toes in this clip" & it works without glitches, there is no reason the model should be hit with a charge back. sure, I understand cards do get stolen sometimes. I still don't feel we should be penalized if it wasn't a failure of service on our part. They got what they wanted and we worked hard to provide them with it. It isn't my fault if Willy lump lump's wife see's the statement and is mad because she wanted that $50 to get her nails done. The ip address matches his current residency & those are some of my best selling clips. clearly there's an issue & it's fairly unlikely it's on my end.
Tea4Me
10-26-2016, 02:54 PM
Is there a credit card processor out there that DOES eat chargebacks?
I guess I see it as they offer a service to us to allow us to receive funds for items/services we sell, why should *they* be held responsible. YES, it sucks and it's a shitty part of what we do. Sometimes it happens. Look at the retail industry, they lose BILLIONS a year in shoplifting. Every industry has risks.
So how can it change? C4S tries to be cautious with new clip customers who do big orders (must verify their identy) and they do block/blacklist those who do chargebacks. What more can they do? On one hand, I think the harder they make it for a guy to purchase clips, the less likely he will. He'll go elsewhere. Especially when the majority do NOT do chargebacks.
What would be nice is if there was some sort of industry wide BLACKLIST. So if one guy does a chargeback on a cam site, he is now blacklisted from C4S, other clip sites, paysites, other cam sites, etc. I don't think something like that is possible because I don't know what the legalities are of releasing that personal information.
sexysusie
10-26-2016, 08:32 PM
How awesome would that be? Steal from one of us fuckers and you're BARRED from all your favourite sites HA!! :D
DonaDiabla
11-02-2016, 09:48 PM
Is anyone making holiday clips? This week, I will be making Thanksgiving and Christmas content for this year. Last year, I did some holiday content but never for Thanksgiving. :)
Incantatious
11-03-2016, 04:36 AM
Is anyone making holiday clips? This week, I will be making Thanksgiving and Christmas content for this year. Last year, I did some holiday content but never for Thanksgiving. :)
If filming myself eating a LOT of food over Christmas for the weight gain category counts as "holiday clips", then yes!! LMAO! :D
CatBBW
11-04-2016, 07:05 AM
Why are some clips unable to show any other preview than the one that starts right at the beginning of the clip? I am having this issue now, doesn't matter how I change it - whether by selecting in the listing itself or using the preview maker, the preview still stays stuck at starting from the beginning title page! Any workarounds?