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Sinna (2pee4you)
01-20-2017, 05:05 AM
Hey,
I am serious about adult-income so funding is absolutely appreciated and totally awesome, but I was also joking a little. So don't feel any pressure or anything.
I actually never ever heard about venmo. I will look into that. Okay I looked into it. It's not adult friendly so I better stay away. Always getting my funds frozen and having to explain in which sense adult-income is not adult, although there is adult in the name and I also run an adult business, is tiring. Because all these guys never actually look at my website before they ban me or say "no".
But you can always send any amounts through my $1 product:
http://adult-income.com/product/consult-sinna/
That is especially designed so anyone can send anything. For more dollars, just change the product amount. 20 product = 20$ :P It's virtual, so you don't really get anything
Luna66
01-20-2017, 05:42 AM
Also, please: I'm debating about investing in a waterproof GoPro. Has anyone bought a GoPro and regretted it?
Yeah, I bought a waterproof GoPro and sent it back. I thought it would be a good way of getting a 4K capable HD camera for a cheaper price than a camcorder, and the waterproof factor was a bonus. But it's just not great for shooting the kind of videos I make. There's no viewfinder, so you have to link it up with your phone and as Sinna said, the wide angle is weird and not really appropriate for the kind of videos I make. I also didn't really notice a big difference in quality between the GoPro and my Logitech C920. I recently bought a proper camcorder and the difference is really noticeable. Of course, if you're going to be shooting a lot of underwater stuff, get a waterproof GoPro, but I wouldn't use it for normal videos.
Sinna (2pee4you)
01-20-2017, 06:02 AM
Yeah, I bought a waterproof GoPro and sent it back. I thought it would be a good way of getting a 4K capable HD camera for a cheaper price than a camcorder, and the waterproof factor was a bonus. But it's just not great for shooting the kind of videos I make. There's no viewfinder, so you have to link it up with your phone and as Sinna said, the wide angle is weird and not really appropriate for the kind of videos I make. I also didn't really notice a big difference in quality between the GoPro and my Logitech C920. I recently bought a proper camcorder and the difference is really noticeable. Of course, if you're going to be shooting a lot of underwater stuff, get a waterproof GoPro, but I wouldn't use it for normal videos.
Right, I forgot to write about the quality: in low light, it's horrible. In daylight it's okay, but with nice daylight pretty much any camera has good quality. I know that we talked about how quality doesn't matter that much, but it's really horrible in low light. Like you can't see things. And that DOES matter.
The sound is also not that good, even without the casing. I have a QUMOX gopro-fake. I don't see a difference with the gopro quality that a friend has. She paid 5 times as much.
Tea4Me
01-20-2017, 10:35 AM
I'm wondering if November and December are big months overall?
I've had my store up since August 2016. I had record breaking numbers in November and December. I'm wondering if I just got lucky because it was the holidays!?!? I'm kinda stressing out about it because I walked out on my day job after seeing those numbers ...
Personally, Sept-Jan are my strongest sales months. There were only 4 months in 2016 where I didn't top my 2015 sales and if I'm being honest, 3 out of the 4 were pure laziness on my part. A few more updates and I would have topped the previous years. But Nov/Dec 2016 were good months for me too.
I'm quoting this from another thread on SW, and I'll say I noticed this same thing. For me, my 4th month on C4S was one of my best sales months ever.
"Within 4 months of opening my first clip store, I was making more than my former modeling/porn income. There was a huge income jump between month 3 and 4. By the 9th month after opening the first store (2 months after opening the second) my income jumped again. My husband was able to quit his job and work full time on the clip store. By the 12th month after opening my first store, I was making the income that I claim in the title of this thread.
Why did my income increase over time:
- My fan base grew over time. I've done a lot in the last year and a half to reach the public - interviews, articles, appearances, etc. I'm getting through to them.
- My library expanded with every update, giving fans more things to buy.
- Right from the first month, I meticulously followed purchasing trends and tailored my shoots to what sold most AND had the least investment - both in time and in dollars - to shoot. Less investment equals more shoots for your resources. More shooting equals more updates. More updates equals more profit. Don't make "cheap" videos. Use your resources intelligently."
That is from a post written by LarkinLove on this thread: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?180655-I-made-six-figures-on-clips4sale-alone-I-want-to-share-my-knowledge
(https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?180655-I-made-six-figures-on-clips4sale-alone-I-want-to-share-my-knowledge)
nattythefattyforsure
01-20-2017, 11:02 AM
Awesome, thank you, Tea4me! Did Larkin Love ever write that book?
Tea4Me
01-20-2017, 11:11 AM
Awesome, thank you, Tea4me! Did Larkin Love ever write that book?
Not that I know of, but I only know what was on that post. The very first post was different, but she edited it. (The original post can be found on web.archive.org)
But honestly, I think you can find out everything you need to know by reading this thread, keeping at it, trying new things, keeping track of what you do (what works and doesn't) and just being consistent with updates. There are no magical secrets to success on C4S. It's all out in the open actually. Observe other successful stores, learn (don't copy) from what they have in common, find fetishes you do well with, and don't be afraid to try new ones here and there.
SylvySinclair
01-20-2017, 11:53 AM
Im so happy i was able to make a store now that they offer payoneer!!! yay!!!
nattythefattyforsure
01-20-2017, 12:09 PM
Thank you, Luna66!
Yeah, I bought a waterproof GoPro and sent it back. I thought it would be a good way of getting a 4K capable HD camera for a cheaper price than a camcorder, and the waterproof factor was a bonus. But it's just not great for shooting the kind of videos I make. There's no viewfinder, so you have to link it up with your phone and as Sinna said, the wide angle is weird and not really appropriate for the kind of videos I make. I also didn't really notice a big difference in quality between the GoPro and my Logitech C920. I recently bought a proper camcorder and the difference is really noticeable. Of course, if you're going to be shooting a lot of underwater stuff, get a waterproof GoPro, but I wouldn't use it for normal videos.
Bootsie
01-20-2017, 03:28 PM
Anyone else getting an "Internal Server Error" pop-up today when they try to upload videos on the "Add Clip" page? FML.
MistressX
01-20-2017, 05:05 PM
So I am trying to do the thing where you put the direct links to common categories in your store. I would like to have something similar to tara tainton where she has the pics of screen shots from videos with the names of the categories on it. I have tried doing the a ref thing and img src but it just shows up as a broken image icon :(
I am totally new to stuff like this and I cant figure out what I am doing wrong.
As a side note, our store is really new and 26 of our clips were removed because they were "corrupt". It just happened to be the 2 shoots we did which I used the mass uploader thing, which has since been disabled on the site. Coincidence? I dont think so!
nattythefattyforsure
01-20-2017, 09:34 PM
Did you try FTP with FileZilla? C4s tech support recommends that to me when I call them asking about troubles uploading.
Anyone else getting an "Internal Server Error" pop-up today when they try to upload videos on the "Add Clip" page? FML.
boyru
01-21-2017, 08:46 AM
FileZilla - best ftp/sftp client ever i know
i have 400mbps internet connection and uploading to c4s-ftp is faster than using web interface
what do You think about disabling SMOTHER category? did U see this warning today's night (ru time)?
SuperPookie
01-21-2017, 08:52 AM
I personally didn't have clips in that category but from what I understood it wasn't disabled yet but it would be if people kept uploading videos that violated TOS in it. I might be wrong though.
So I've been checking out my stats and what not and I don't get a single hit for my store that didn't come from C4S itself even though I do advertise on Twitter and Tumblr. There's got to be something I'm just not getting.
PixiieGirl
01-21-2017, 09:01 AM
Cool Pixiie! If I ever get that, I'll have (more) champagne :D
well it didn't last long - dropped to like 22 now ahahahaha
boyru
01-21-2017, 09:02 AM
I personally didn't have clips in that category but from what I understood it wasn't disabled yet but it would be if people kept uploading videos that violated TOS in it.
i have clips where girls smother me sitting on my face
are they (videos) legal or not?
DonaDiabla
01-21-2017, 05:59 PM
Boyru,
Allow for me to explain a few things about this. You see, places like Clips4sale are governed by credit card processors and most of them are very strict. Actually, every year credit card processors get stricter and stricter about content. For example, you can not use keyword such as forced intoxication, humiliation, smothering, and other more taboo things. So, both providers and site owners must be more mindful of what type of content to offer in the future.
Now, here is some tough love, Boyru. You need to changed your content as you were talking about not making enough money. Instead of focusing on things like twerking or smothering. You should do more broader content to appear to boarder audience. Also, you need to learn more about the business side of things. Like you need to learn what is legal in different places or read the TOS every month. You have been in this business for awhile now and you need to upgrade everything including your marketing. So, Good luck and maybe this will get you to make different content. :)
i have clips where girls smother me sitting on my face
are they (videos) legal or not?
nattythefattyforsure
01-21-2017, 09:29 PM
@SuperPookie, Are you wondering how to get direct traffic from your store other than from C4S? 2. Wondering if violating terms of service in Smothering will get the category trashed? Or neither?
Answer to Q #2: I think C4S posted the warning about the smothering category to appease whichever credit card merchant is putting pressure on them for selling inappropriate content. But I also think they're going to hold to their word and get rid of that category if they get continued pressure from merchants and continued violations of the terms of service.
Answer to Q #1: Marketing is vital. Start a YouTube channel. Hang out in forums. Write guest blogs. Post link to store(s) when you cam. Pass out print collateral if you're allowed to where you work, etc. Whatever it takes to build a fan/customer base.
I personally didn't have clips in that category but from what I understood it wasn't disabled yet but it would be if people kept uploading videos that violated TOS in it. I might be wrong though.
So I've been checking out my stats and what not and I don't get a single hit for my store that didn't come from C4S itself even though I do advertise on Twitter and Tumblr. There's got to be something I'm just not getting.
Classy_Katy
01-22-2017, 02:07 AM
i have clips where girls smother me sitting on my face
are they (videos) legal or not?
We don't know how the rules are being interpreted any more than you do....you need to email support and ask them to check your videos.
SuperPookie
01-22-2017, 04:02 AM
@SuperPookie, Are you wondering how to get direct traffic from your store other than from C4S? 2. Wondering if violating terms of service in Smothering will get the category trashed? Or neither?
Answer to Q #2: I think C4S posted the warning about the smothering category to appease whichever credit card merchant is putting pressure on them for selling inappropriate content. But I also think they're going to hold to their word and get rid of that category if they get continued pressure from merchants and continued violations of the terms of service.
Answer to Q #1: Marketing is vital. Start a YouTube channel. Hang out in forums. Write guest blogs. Post link to store(s) when you cam. Pass out print collateral if you're allowed to where you work, etc. Whatever it takes to build a fan/customer base. Oh, I was just replying to Boyru . I don't have any clips that would be affected either way so I didn't look into it that much.
Streamate doesn't let us advertise our clip sites unfortunately. They're ridiculous about the idea that someone might spend a buck somewhere that's not on their glitchy site lol. I'm a housekeeper so I can't advertise at work haha. We'll see though. I'm sure I'll find something or just say bugger it entirely which is always a possibility:D
PixiieGirl
01-22-2017, 04:18 AM
Oh, I was just replying to Boyru . I don't have any clips that would be affected either way so I didn't look into it that much.
Streamate doesn't let us advertise our clip sites unfortunately. They're ridiculous about the idea that someone might spend a buck somewhere that's not on their glitchy site lol. I'm a housekeeper so I can't advertise at work haha. We'll see though. I'm sure I'll find something or just say bugger it entirely which is always a possibility:D
definitely look at forums for the fetishes you post in a lot x
boyru
01-22-2017, 09:31 AM
smothering is equal to facesitting in long time
i dont mind smothering is not legal
breathtaking is not legal, but smothering is okay
justsometwat
01-22-2017, 10:50 AM
No Asphyxiation - You cannot suffocate or insinuate altering someone's breathing in any way (ex., choking, strangulation, hanging by the neck etc.) in any clips, videos or images.
They don't want you preventing people from breathing at all.
Tea4Me
01-22-2017, 10:53 AM
Anyone else notice the C4S site to be running slow this morning? Some links take 30 seconds to load and then time out. Other sites I've visited have been fine, so I'm thinking it's just C4S.
boyru
01-22-2017, 11:45 AM
facesitting is always strangulation during time Her ass is on my face
my store was closed in Dec to review after reuploading and still not released
PixiieGirl
01-22-2017, 11:49 AM
Anyone else notice the C4S site to be running slow this morning? Some links take 30 seconds to load and then time out. Other sites I've visited have been fine, so I'm thinking it's just C4S.
it seems to be running really slow for me atm
Sinna (2pee4you)
01-22-2017, 01:01 PM
The new rule thing? I like it. As I posted recently, I see violations left and right. It's about time they did something, because I rely 95% on c4s for my total income and c4s has been shut down in the past because people didn't stick to the rules (I believe for lobster crushing). Take that as a rumor though, because I just read that on some forum years ago.
The last thing I would need is c4s getting shut down again. Even if only for a day or two.
I am also pleased that people get a little anxious in categories that have nothing to do with smother - because a little rule check was really needed in a lot of categories, not only smother. In my opinion, most studios that really want to stay within the rules probably won't get in trouble. It is my belief that this "warning" was really for the purpose / repeat violators. Because they exist.
I hope that the honest studios get a kick in sales from this, because no doubt, the "forbidden" stuff took a lot of the sales volume from the honest studios.
To round this off, I still think a re-formulation of the rules would make them more clear.
Nina Reid
01-22-2017, 01:14 PM
Anyone else notice the C4S site to be running slow this morning? Some links take 30 seconds to load and then time out. Other sites I've visited have been fine, so I'm thinking it's just C4S.
Yes, I had problems too. Said that the servers didn't respond in time when I wanted to activate a clip, but when I went to clips list it was there. Twice...
PixiieGirl
01-22-2017, 01:16 PM
tbh I'm a little sad we can't do choking cause it's such a big kink of mine but considering how dangerous it is it makes complete sense - and I agree people should be sticking to the rules and if unsure should ask
boyru
01-22-2017, 01:19 PM
tbh I'm a little sad we can't do choking cause it's such a big kink of mine but considering how dangerous it is it makes complete sense - and I agree people should be sticking to the rules and if unsure should ask
Hello Mister * * *
That is fine. Make sure you do not show bagging / plastic bag/wrap around face/head or choking someone with ropes.
You should not worry about smother category than.
PixiieGirl
01-22-2017, 01:21 PM
Hello Mister * * *
That is fine. Make sure you do not show bagging / plastic bag/wrap around face/head or choking someone with ropes.
You should not worry about smother category than.
I thought it was nothing that restricts breathing? I'm talking hand round the throat choking - tbh it's fine I dont mind keeping some fetishes for my personal life only haha
MistressX
01-22-2017, 04:46 PM
I cant log in to my store at all. It says the page is taking too long to respond. The main site and peoples stores load fine. Also cant load the support page...
DonaDiabla
01-22-2017, 05:16 PM
Mistress X,
Maybe you should contact support? I logged into my stores without any problems.
I cant log in to my store at all. It says the page is taking too long to respond. The main site and peoples stores load fine. Also cant load the
support page...
MistressX
01-22-2017, 05:22 PM
It fixed itself. That was weird though. Every other page worked just fine.
AlyssaJ
01-22-2017, 07:33 PM
I have had problems with C4S server the whole day, being very slow and buggy, sometimes not loading pages at all. I wrote to support several hours ago about the link to my store not working properly from the category, and still no answer, so somethings been up with the server I guess. (link fixed itself after a while)
justsometwat
01-22-2017, 08:38 PM
Hello Mister * * *
That is fine. Make sure you do not show bagging / plastic bag/wrap around face/head or choking someone with ropes.
You should not worry about smother category than.
No one thinks it's odd that this is worded in the same way boyru types on the forum?
Louise Love
01-22-2017, 09:22 PM
Anyone else notice the C4S site to be running slow this morning? Some links take 30 seconds to load and then time out. Other sites I've visited have been fine, so I'm thinking it's just C4S.
They are located in Florida and there is heavy storming there this weekend. It could affect their servers; IIRC there was some lag during Hurricane Matthew.
Classy_Katy
01-22-2017, 11:03 PM
I hope that the honest studios get a kick in sales from this, because no doubt, the "forbidden" stuff took a lot of the sales volume from the honest studios.
I wonder how many studios are thinking "what rules?" and just never bothered to read them. People see what other people are filming and then copy it, thinking it's ok if others are doing filming it, and so it continues while the rest of us lose income. I used to do really well in 2 categories that I seldom upload to now, and that's a big loss of income.
Sinna (2pee4you)
01-23-2017, 01:14 AM
No one thinks it's odd that this is worded in the same way boyru types on the forum?
Of course. He is so obviously trolling that I ignore him. He just throws you huge bones that you just want, almost feel compelled to answer to because it's so ridiculous. That's a typical troll. So he is on total ignore. I don't care AT ALL what he says.
Back to the topic of the servers.. something is up for sure.
First of all, I got 503 no server response the past weeks.. not for long, but here and there, c4s was down sitewide (for me) for a few seconds, up to 20 seconds.
Now I just come back from messaging support, because I can't login with ftp. Neither ftp server. They all say incorrect password, which is an error, because the password is stored in the ftp program just like yesterday, where it all worked. I even re-typed it just for fun.
I could log into the admin with the same password.. so.. something is up with the servers. I don't know what, but I made $30 yesterday (after doing well all month so far) .. so I wonder if it's also on the front-end where the customers shop.
Sinna (2pee4you)
01-23-2017, 01:16 AM
They are located in Florida and there is heavy storming there this weekend. It could affect their servers; IIRC there was some lag during Hurricane Matthew.
c4s switched to amazon servers. They are everywhere in the world (AWS is located in 14 geographical "regions": US East (Northern Virginia), where the majority of AWS servers are based, US East (Ohio), US West (northern California), US West (Oregon), Brazil (São Paulo), Europe (Ireland and Germany), South Asia (Mumbai), Southeast Asia (Singapore), East Asia (Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing) and ...)
miss_anja
01-23-2017, 03:03 AM
The new rule thing? I like it. As I posted recently, I see violations left and right. It's about time they did something, because I rely 95% on c4s for my total income and c4s has been shut down in the past because people didn't stick to the rules (I believe for lobster crushing). Take that as a rumor though, because I just read that on some forum years ago.
The last thing I would need is c4s getting shut down again. Even if only for a day or two.
I quote you since you say you make 95% of your revenue on c4s but my question is for everybody.
Aren't you guys afraid of relying on c4s for almost all you income (if it's the case)? It's my case and I really hope the bugs on the site stay casual because I see it affects my sales (only 1 sale yesterday and 1 today).
I don't want c4s to shut down at all, but, I won't put my eggs in only one basket, and since around 10% (only) of my sales (a lot are customs) are coming from my twitter, I plan to move them to my website (I plan to create one). At least the videos are free from casual bugs and the guys have that second option when c4s is slow or down. (While I write, I'm telling to myself "it will be a huge huge work to convert guys").
Sinna (2pee4you)
01-23-2017, 03:41 AM
I quote you since you say you make 95% of your revenue on c4s but my question is for everybody.
Aren't you guys afraid of relying on c4s for almost all you income (if it's the case)? It's my case and I really hope the bugs on the site stay casual because I see it affects my sales (only 1 sale yesterday and 1 today).
I don't want c4s to shut down at all, but, I won't put my eggs in only one basket, and since around 10% (only) of my sales (a lot are customs) are coming from my twitter, I plan to move them to my website (I plan to create one). At least the videos are free from casual bugs and the guys have that second option when c4s is slow or down. (While I write, I'm telling to myself "it will be a huge huge work to convert guys").
Yes, absolutely afraid!
Then I think to myself: nearly everybody relies on ONE company. Either it's your employer, or you run a website that only lives because you get google traffic. Or you are a company based solely on youtube ads. Or a company basically living off facebook. Or you rely on the fact that your host isn't going bankrupt. Or you manufacture X for company Y. Or you are a one woman business and rely on your health, like I do.
We always rely on something.
But I keep doing new things. Something else might stick in the future :)
PixiieGirl
01-23-2017, 05:16 AM
Yes, absolutely afraid!
Then I think to myself: nearly everybody relies on ONE company. Either it's your employer, or you run a website that only lives because you get google traffic. Or you are a company based solely on youtube ads. Or a company basically living off facebook. Or you rely on the fact that your host isn't going bankrupt. Or you manufacture X for company Y. Or you are a one woman business and rely on your health, like I do.
We always rely on something.
But I keep doing new things. Something else might stick in the future :)
this is a very good point, I have like 3 sources of income (I've basically dropped camming completely recently v.v) in the form of clips, an online company I do work with and a vanilla part-time job. But ultimately I make next to nothing from clips and the other online work - so I'm relying on my vanilla job. So basically yeah even if it looks like someone isn't relying on one income they probably are if you break it down
PixiieGirl
01-23-2017, 06:50 AM
ergh is the preview creator down for anyone else? I keep getting an error encoding video message :(
AlyssaJ
01-23-2017, 11:55 AM
I gave up yesterday trying to upload a larger video, neither filezilla or direct upload worked and everything was slow. It's been normal for me today though.
Btw, just noticed the word "poo" is not allowed, which makes "shampooing" to "shaming" in descriptions lol. Had to change it to "washing" and "soaping" haha
boyru
01-23-2017, 12:52 PM
i dont have problems with c4s servers (admin pages, ftp)
all fine and uploading speed is greater than 70mbps in 9 threads
i am not troll, because i didnt ask for c4s help, all my questions are about standalone paysite
PixiieGirl
01-23-2017, 12:58 PM
ahh the preview maker is working for me woop
Luna66
01-23-2017, 02:47 PM
i am not troll, because i didnt ask for c4s help, all my questions are about standalone paysite
Then get out of the clips4sale thread please. Thanks, bye!
CatBBW
01-23-2017, 05:05 PM
then get out of the clips4sale thread please. Thanks, bye!
FUCK YES!
agreeing.
AlyssaJ
01-23-2017, 05:11 PM
I got a custom request! It is actually a cool idea - I don't think it will sell to others but it is long and the customer agreed to a fair rate, it's like twice the money I have made so far on C4S... So, I was thinking before I wouldn't do customs, because I didn't want to feel a pressure for it. But I really wan't to try the idea so why not make some money :)
Well anyway, I don't want to vilate the tribute button, and I don't want to upload a dummy clip because that still has to be posted in a category right, I would be annoyed clicking on that as a browsing customer. So I was thinking amazon gift card, but there is no way that can be traceable right? Any other suggestions for secure payments?
PixiieGirl
01-23-2017, 05:21 PM
I got a custom request! It is actually a cool idea - I don't think it will sell to others but it is long and the customer agreed to a fair rate, it's like twice the money I have made so far on C4S... So, I was thinking before I wouldn't do customs, because I didn't want to feel a pressure for it. But I really wan't to try the idea so why not make some money :)
Well anyway, I don't want to vilate the tribute button, and I don't want to upload a dummy clip because that still has to be posted in a category right, I would be annoyed clicking on that as a browsing customer. So I was thinking amazon gift card, but there is no way that can be traceable right? Any other suggestions for secure payments?
I think most people on C4S use tributes but I'd like to know to, I should start offering customs really