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NervousBeaver
01-28-2017, 04:45 PM
I haven't posted in this thread for months. I have been slowing down my clips production a lot in the last months due to fatigue, changes in my personnal life, lack of confidence, etc. I find it very difficult to go back on track and make as much clips as I used too. (Well, I don't want to make that much anymore since I burned myself, but still would like to make at least 5-7 clips per week.)

I also find difficult not beeing able to share my frustrations and struggles with people, except maybe my boyfriend, but since he doesn't make clips he can't really understand everything I'm going through. I'm sure I am not the only one in this forum who is lacking motivation/energy. It's hard to do everything by yourself and be your own boss. Sometimes you need somebody from the outside to to give you another point of view and push you, or a neutral person you can talk to without the fear of being judged.

So... I was wondering if some of you would be interested in becoming "accountability buddies". We could check on each other... it could be once a week or once a month... talk about how the week was, our struggles and successes, our goals for the upcomming week, what is our strategy to get to our goals, etc. You can send me a private message if you are interested.

SFHS
01-28-2017, 05:09 PM
Thanks so much everyone, I guess it's just me then. Which is weird, because other emails are coming through.

I'm getting my sales e-mails hours later. Like 10 hours after I get the sale.

Tea4Me
01-28-2017, 09:31 PM
I haven't posted in this thread for months. I have been slowing down my clips production a lot in the last months due to fatigue, changes in my personnal life, lack of confidence, etc. I find it very difficult to go back on track and make as much clips as I used too. (Well, I don't want to make that much anymore since I burned myself, but still would like to make at least 5-7 clips per week.)

I also find difficult not beeing able to share my frustrations and struggles with people, except maybe my boyfriend, but since he doesn't make clips he can't really understand everything I'm going through. I'm sure I am not the only one in this forum who is lacking motivation/energy. It's hard to do everything by yourself and be your own boss. Sometimes you need somebody from the outside to to give you another point of view and push you, or a neutral person you can talk to without the fear of being judged.

So... I was wondering if some of you would be interested in becoming "accountability buddies". We could check on each other... it could be once a week or once a month... talk about how the week was, our struggles and successes, our goals for the upcomming week, what is our strategy to get to our goals, etc. You can send me a private message if you are interested.


Do you, or have you ever, enjoyed making clips? Because reading your post, it almost comes across more as something you feel you have to do but don't really want to.

(Also, did you mean burned yourself or burned yourself 'out'--and the out was missing?)

I'm really sensing that your mindset is not in the right place to shoot clips because of the wording you're using. "It's hard to do everything by yourself..." "lacking motivation", "I find it very difficult", etc.

Everything starts with being in the right mindset. If making clips feels like drudgery, then no outside influence is going to help. I think you need to ask yourself if this is something you really *want* to do.

MistressX
01-28-2017, 10:16 PM
You know....with the political climate the way it is here in the US, I certainly hope going after porn isn't on their list.....

the GOP, notably mike pence and some of the higher ups around him, have specifically stated that they are anti adult and WILL be going after the porn industry. that bastard is on a 'moral crusade'. expect things to get more difficult in the near future..

Classy_Katy
01-29-2017, 01:13 AM
Thanks so much everyone, I guess it's just me then. Which is weird, because other emails are coming through.

Just found one in my junk folder!

Classy_Katy
01-29-2017, 01:30 AM
So... I was wondering if some of you would be interested in becoming "accountability buddies". We could check on each other... it could be once a week or once a month... talk about how the week was, our struggles and successes, our goals for the upcomming week, what is our strategy to get to our goals, etc. You can send me a private message if you are interested.

There is a private group on here that you could join, it's for verified clip makers (in the community section). You need to contact DiamondCupcakes if you'd like to join us.

Classy_Katy
01-29-2017, 12:28 PM
I know this is Fetlife but may explain the clampdown on the Smother category and show which way things are going.

http://sexandcensorship.org/2017/01/major-kink-site-fetlife-forced-censor-content/

"We received news today that Fetlife.com, a cornerstone of the global kink community, has been forced to remove vast amounts of content in order to stay in business."

With the help of the NCSF, lawyers, partners, and merchant providers, we came up with the following pillars that will make up our guidelines:

Nothing non-consensual (abduction, rape, etc.)
Nothing that impairs consent (drugs, alcohol, etc.)
No permanent or lasting damage (snuff, lacerations, deep cutting, etc.)
No hate speech (Nazi roleplay, race play, etc.)
Nothing that falls under obscenity (incest, etc. )

More information in the link.

nattythefattyforsure
01-29-2017, 12:31 PM
is c4s down? i can't login ...

justsometwat
01-29-2017, 01:43 PM
Working for me.

boyru
01-29-2017, 03:24 PM
c4s is showing best speed and fastest response/reaction in time 09:00AM-17:00PM Moscow Time (GMT+03)
uploading is faster than 70mbps in 6-8 threads
adding/editing clips is fast

Tea4Me
01-29-2017, 03:28 PM
is c4s down? i can't login ...

C4S is working for me, it's sales that are broken! :P lol Seriously, the slowest sales day in two weeks.....

Tea4Me
01-29-2017, 03:33 PM
I know this is Fetlife but may explain the clampdown on the Smother category and show which way things are going.

http://sexandcensorship.org/2017/01/major-kink-site-fetlife-forced-censor-content/

"We received news today that Fetlife.com, a cornerstone of the global kink community, has been forced to remove vast amounts of content in order to stay in business."



Thank you for sharing this Katy!! I read the whole thing and I think you are right about the possible connection. It's scary how easily banks can just decide to stop processing for an adult related company. (I'm wondering if it's from pressure from conservative politicians/bankers......)

JaceyLynn
01-29-2017, 04:37 PM
I have finally made it through all 245 pages of this thread and I want to say thank you so much for all of the information and advice and that I now feel ready to jump in. I have a few pages of notes that I find valuable.

I started on clips4sale back in may of last year, uploaded about 50 videos and stopped updating, not for lack of clips, but just a lack of motivation I guess. I had a format that made it easy for me to upload my clips and get my descriptions and keywords right. I am looking on making a comeback starting Feb 1st, and I will have a full month of 2x daily clips ready to go with descriptions and keywords already written. I am excited and nervous at the same time but am looking forward to giving it my all. Reading about how there are quite a few of you making $1000+ a month is very motivational, but like anything, you get in what you put out and I didnt give much last time around nor did I get much. It makes me wonder where I could be all these months later if I would have stuck with it.

Also, I do not remember who posted the earnings and goals tracker (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1plYaLbNHOddBzVEoR6Q8epRUZM9moWRl_QODup8lQTk/edit#gid=0) on google docs, but thank you. I plan on using it to really keep track of things better.

SFHS
01-29-2017, 09:31 PM
I was getting order emails 10 hours after the order but now I'm not getting the emails at all.

Sinna (2pee4you)
01-30-2017, 05:39 AM
I know this is Fetlife but may explain the clampdown on the Smother category and show which way things are going.

http://sexandcensorship.org/2017/01/major-kink-site-fetlife-forced-censor-content/

"We received news today that Fetlife.com, a cornerstone of the global kink community, has been forced to remove vast amounts of content in order to stay in business."

With the help of the NCSF, lawyers, partners, and merchant providers, we came up with the following pillars that will make up our guidelines:

Nothing non-consensual (abduction, rape, etc.)
Nothing that impairs consent (drugs, alcohol, etc.)
No permanent or lasting damage (snuff, lacerations, deep cutting, etc.)
No hate speech (Nazi roleplay, race play, etc.)
Nothing that falls under obscenity (incest, etc. )

More information in the link.


I read all of it as well, then logged into fetlife, expecting an announcement or a message but found nothing.

NervousBeaver
01-30-2017, 10:31 PM
Do you, or have you ever, enjoyed making clips? Because reading your post, it almost comes across more as something you feel you have to do but don't really want to.

(Also, did you mean burned yourself or burned yourself 'out'--and the out was missing?)

I'm really sensing that your mindset is not in the right place to shoot clips because of the wording you're using. "It's hard to do everything by yourself..." "lacking motivation", "I find it very difficult", etc.

Everything starts with being in the right mindset. If making clips feels like drudgery, then no outside influence is going to help. I think you need to ask yourself if this is something you really *want* to do.

Yes I enjoyed clip making in the past. Especially when I was well prepared, with a clear plan of what I want to do and scenarios ready. When I was with my ex I was a workaholic, I would film/edit/post clips all the time so I would not have to think about the failure of our relationship. I would sometimes post 3 new clips everyday in 2 different stores. Since I finally decided to quit my ex and now have a new boyfriend I feel like I just want to enjoy life again. I still make good money even if I post 5-10 clips a month and I have a lot of savings. I have to find a new motivation to work more because money is not really motivation to me. I live very frugaly and I am not into buying stuff, travelling, etc. So why do I want to work more if I don't need more money? I have to think about my future, retirement, and plan ahead if something unexpected happens (injury, sickness or else). I also have way too much free time and I know I can do more with the potential that I have. Also clip making can be very fun and creative and I am lacking this in my life. I spend most of my time procrastinating and I feel ridiculous.

I meant burned myself out. (English is not my first language so I might make some other mistakes in the future.)

Yes, my mindset is not in the right place to shoot clips. I don't want to go into details but have the tendency to sabotage myself. I know I have potential but I am afraid of success or feel I don't deserve success. Been fighting against this for many year. Improved a lot but still a lot of work to do. Sometimes I feel like doing work for me is not motivating enough. I have to "do it" for someone else or have someone else pushing me in the back. This is why I thought having accountability buddies would be a good idea.

Tea4Me
01-31-2017, 01:15 AM
Yes I enjoyed clip making in the past. Especially when I was well prepared, with a clear plan of what I want to do and scenarios ready.

That is *huge*. I'm the same way. If I don't know where I'm going to shoot, what I'm going to wear, a good idea of what I am going to say/do in the clip....clip shooting will not be happening! But when I'm organized ahead of time, I totally look forward to doing it.


When I was with my ex I was a workaholic, I would film/edit/post clips all the time so I would not have to think about the failure of our relationship. I would sometimes post 3 new clips everyday in 2 different stores. Since I finally decided to quit my ex and now have a new boyfriend I feel like I just want to enjoy life again.

And there is nothing wrong with that! ;-)


I still make good money even if I post 5-10 clips a month and I have a lot of savings. I have to find a new motivation to work more because money is not really motivation to me. I live very frugaly and I am not into buying stuff, travelling, etc. So why do I want to work more if I don't need more money? I have to think about my future, retirement, and plan ahead if something unexpected happens (injury, sickness or else). I also have way too much free time and I know I can do more with the potential that I have. Also clip making can be very fun and creative and I am lacking this in my life. I spend most of my time procrastinating and I feel ridiculous.

Clip making IS fun and creative! That's why I enjoy it so much and you did too at one time. I have a folder of various clip ideas that I want to do and some get done sooner than others. I enjoy coming up with an idea, shooting it and seeing that it came out exactly how I wanted it and then posting it to my store and see how it sells. If it sells well, it's kind of validating/satisfying to know that I created something that others enjoyed. And that makes me want to do more.


I meant burned myself out. (English is not my first language so I might make some other mistakes in the future.)

Yes, my mindset is not in the right place to shoot clips. I don't want to go into details but have the tendency to sabotage myself. I know I have potential but I am afraid of success or feel I don't deserve success. Been fighting against this for many year. Improved a lot but still a lot of work to do. Sometimes I feel like doing work for me is not motivating enough. I have to "do it" for someone else or have someone else pushing me in the back. This is why I thought having accountability buddies would be a good idea.

Ah, see....THIS is the problem. The things you are telling yourself about you are negative and when you keep telling yourself those things, you end up thinking "why bother".

No money isn't everything but in this world, it does mean FREEDOM. I think more about paying off debt, my mortgage, making home improvements, etc. But what motivates me, is success and money is how we measure that. I want my clips to sell well and I guess that drives me to do better and better and try new things.

What was your mindset when you *did* enjoy making clips? Are you afraid you'll work too much and that will cause problems in your new relationship? (And has your new boyfriend ever made comments about your clip shooting that could be adding to your feelings of self-sabotage?)

Motivation is something I have struggled with myself at times and I've had to find ways to make it fun and set goals for myself to break out of a rut. I'm sure it's happened to quite a few other people at one time or another as well.

If you find making clips rewarding, it could help boost your confidence. :-)

boyru
01-31-2017, 04:05 AM
...
I started on clips4sale back in may of last year, uploaded about 50 videos and stopped updating, not for lack of clips, but just a lack of motivation I guess. I had a format that made it easy for me to upload my clips and get my descriptions and keywords right. I am looking on making a comeback starting Feb 1st, and I will have a full month of 2x daily clips ready to go with descriptions and keywords already written.
...

It is very important to have to in a stock clips for the next 50-60 days.
i have filmed ~600 clips (over 7000 minutes long) since 2016/June and will activate them daily starting in Febrary/2017.

JaceyLynn
01-31-2017, 11:51 AM
It is very important to have to in a stock clips for the next 50-60 days.
i have filmed ~600 clips (over 7000 minutes long) since 2016/June and will activate them daily starting in Febrary/2017.

I have clips coming out of my ears. 1000+ but I cant upload em all at once, that wont work out so good. So as long as I have a month of updates in queue im good to go.

PixiieGirl
01-31-2017, 11:56 AM
god I wish I had loads of clips, I only tend to film for the upcoming week haha

boyru
01-31-2017, 01:42 PM
I have clips coming out of my ears. 1000+ but I cant upload em all at once, that wont work out so good. So as long as I have a month of updates in queue im good to go.

i've uploaded 136 clips for feb updates, 3..5 various clips every day.
dont want to plan for alog time, for 100-200 days of updates

JaceyLynn
01-31-2017, 02:42 PM
god I wish I had loads of clips, I only tend to film for the upcoming week haha


Well I was camming years ago, and have lots of clips from that, and some are other clips I have purchased, as filler clips, fetish type stuff, so I cant take all the credit for that.

justsometwat
01-31-2017, 03:34 PM
I strongly suggest one video update daily as you get your rhythm and can find patterns in sales then adjust. If you consistently do not have any or many sales on Thursdays then cut those out.

Unless you're struggling to make sales or seem it necessary to keep up momentum you're just oversaturating your store by uploading 3-5 clips every day, especially if you have multiple formats as well.

Save the filler clips for when you do not have a good update or need to film, that way you're staying relevant, but don't have to stress.

You seem like you have a handle on it, but I think it's important info!

Sinna (2pee4you)
01-31-2017, 05:35 PM
Just went to make my usual round of end-of-the-month screenshots when I found the new statistics upgrade. We can now skip back through old months in traffic and sales and the overview. I think there is even more to come, as the payout tab had been upgraded a week ago as well.

Very exciting. So glad that c4s focuses on important stuff rather than contests.

Edit: forgot the whole reason I wrote this: If you search for your stats, because the graphic is empty, you have to click on previous month :P

Tea4Me
01-31-2017, 07:17 PM
It would be nice to have some features that other clips sites are offering. I *think* another clip site offers paymails (like Niteflirt) and that same site also offers discount codes and markup codes. (Guys use the code to pay a percentage MORE for your clips). Both great options for those into Findom.....

MissJu
01-31-2017, 07:45 PM
god I wish I had loads of clips, I only tend to film for the upcoming week haha
LOL, I tend to film for the upcoming DAY:))) but I wish a d dream to have at least month in advance.

Tea4Me
01-31-2017, 11:13 PM
I don't know how the rest of you did, but Jan 2017 was a fantastic month for me! The only weird part was the second week....I was updating as usual and just couldn't make my daily minimum goal, BUT the rest of the month more than made up for it. I had like $224 in refunds but I knew what they were for (big orders, new customers who didn't want to verify) so it was no big deal. I hit my update goals and new category goals, so I'm rather pleased.

boyru
02-01-2017, 02:19 AM
i have earned $101 in January/2017

LolaLu
02-01-2017, 04:36 AM
Well I was camming years ago, and have lots of clips from that, and some are other clips I have purchased, as filler clips, fetish type stuff, so I cant take all the credit for that.

Can I ask what you mean by filler clips? Also what do you mean clips you have purchased? To resell? Or clips to watch? X

Sinna (2pee4you)
02-01-2017, 04:42 AM
I don't know how the rest of you did, but Jan 2017 was a fantastic month for me! The only weird part was the second week....I was updating as usual and just couldn't make my daily minimum goal, BUT the rest of the month more than made up for it. I had like $224 in refunds but I knew what they were for (big orders, new customers who didn't want to verify) so it was no big deal. I hit my update goals and new category goals, so I'm rather pleased.

I guess the second week was because I took all the sales and went to #34 in the main list :P Seriously, the second week was the best for me. I had a sort of trump effect though. After he won the election - days of really low sales. After he became president - ugly days.

I hope next month will be as good but without the "trump" effect (which I think is more of a media effect - people get so much input from the media that they are either too busy or too bored (or grossed out) to buy sexy clips)

Edit: I just checked past years and February actually is not really a good month. Of course it has less days than other months, so that is a factor to consider.

justsometwat
02-01-2017, 08:32 AM
I don't know how the rest of you did, but Jan 2017 was a fantastic month for me! The only weird part was the second week....I was updating as usual and just couldn't make my daily minimum goal, BUT the rest of the month more than made up for it. I had like $224 in refunds but I knew what they were for (big orders, new customers who didn't want to verify) so it was no big deal. I hit my update goals and new category goals, so I'm rather pleased.

I think between my two store I made JUST under $1,200 which was my goal. I had fantastic sales in my 2nd store (made $250 for the month), but around mid month it came to a halt and I didn't make a penny after. I was REALLY hoping for $400 to come from it, but considering that I was making around $50 a month there I am pleased with the uptick in sales. I did make less than I would have liked with my main store, but it took off really well in the beginning.

I haven't been doing daily updates as I should, but seeing how the last few months had been going i sort of gave up on the daily ones because I feel like it's such a waste. My favorite videos aren't selling and I think that might be down to over saturation - both from me and others as well. Upwards and onwards!

JaceyLynn
02-01-2017, 12:30 PM
Can I ask what you mean by filler clips? Also what do you mean clips you have purchased? To resell? Or clips to watch? X


I have purchased content from amateur content providers to use as filler content. I have been sitting on them for a few years, years ago I planned on launching a paysite but I have yet to do it so I am using the clips in other ways, such as Clips4Sale. Not sure if it's frowned upon or not but I can only shoot so much of myself so thats where the filler content comes into play.

Tea4Me
02-01-2017, 12:31 PM
Okay, so you know how they changed the format recently and the URL for an individual clip now has it's own page? And on the right side of that page is a column of similiar clips? Well, I just noticed that some of my newest clips have "Clips not found!" in that side column instead of showing the other clips I do have in that category. Has anyone else noticed this?? Yeah, I probably have to contact support.... :P But I was just curious if others are noticing it.

JaceyLynn
02-01-2017, 12:49 PM
Hears to a great month. This will be my first full month with 150% effort on my part. Promoting and the whole 9.


Good luck ladies and gentlemen :)

Nina Reid
02-01-2017, 02:35 PM
Is the c4s site really slow today or is it just my internet connection?

Sinna (2pee4you)
02-01-2017, 03:13 PM
Hears to a great month. This will be my first full month with 150% effort on my part. Promoting and the whole 9.


Good luck ladies and gentlemen :)

Hey JaceyLynn,

can I get you over to my Motivator Circle? I could use some of that positive power to get the scores up into the green and drag me along for my other stores and projects :)

I just launched it: http://adult-income.com/motivator-circle/

JaceyLynn
02-01-2017, 03:44 PM
Hey JaceyLynn,

can I get you over to my Motivator Circle? I could use some of that positive power to get the scores up into the green and drag me along for my other stores and projects :)

I just launched it: http://adult-income.com/motivator-circle/

Absolutely, I will be heading over there a little later, I been meaning to check out your website anyways :)

SFHS
02-01-2017, 04:03 PM
Is the c4s site really slow today or is it just my internet connection?

It's slow.

Tea4Me
02-01-2017, 04:51 PM
UPDATE: I just went through and clicked on a bunch of random clips (not mine, other stuidos) and they ALL show "Clips not found!" in the sidebar. So I'm putting in a support ticket...

2nd update: Just got a reply. The programmers are aware of the issue as they have disabled related clips while working on some improvements.

Classy_Katy
02-01-2017, 10:57 PM
I really dislike that related clips feature...it does not work well on my studio, it would be much better to show clips from the same category and not go by keyword or whatever it is. With any luck they'll ditch it.

TBK
02-02-2017, 03:05 AM
I really dislike that related clips feature...it does not work well on my studio, it would be much better to show clips from the same category and not go by keyword or whatever it is. With any luck they'll ditch it.

I have the same problem. It works great in one of my stores but in the other it displays clips that really are not that relevant.

Bootsie
02-02-2017, 03:25 PM
I kind of feel like C4S is throwing a lot of stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. I think it's great that they are trying to improve the site, but I don't like that they don't even give us a list of "hey this is the shit coming in the future" or anything. Then again, all sites treat us like interchangeable cogs that don't matter, so it's to be expected. Honestly, I wish the payout on Manyvids was higher, because even though I hate their contests and they are less fetish-y, at least their site makes sense, looks good, and has an on-site way to take payment for customs. I have such a love/hate with C4S right now because my hits are wonky and it seems like every day I put in a ticket for something and get the response "yeah the engineers know it's broken".

Natalie0523
02-03-2017, 04:06 PM
So I received an email yesterday from someone saying they like my Clips4Sale store. Then asked if I do Skype shows. I replied saying no I do not.

This person replied back saying they can never order my clips because it never lets them put in the cc info. It's happened three times. Is there any other way they can order my clips.

I messaged back asking if they had contacted support on C4S yet, which I would assume would be the next step for them to take. They haven't replied back yet but it's only been an hour.

This is really concerning =/ I can imagine this would be frustrating to a customer. In the midst of horniness they probably don't want to stop and contact support lol They will leave and get off some place else.

I'm going to just send a little heads up to support asking if there's been issues like this.

**So ANOTHER customer emailed me couple minutes ago saying they are also having issues with inputting information into the site. They can't input their email or credit card info. I just contacted support.**

Classy_Katy
02-04-2017, 01:17 AM
Wow that's worrying, are credit companies pulling out? Fetlife had to remove content to keep their payment processors happy.

TBK
02-04-2017, 02:29 AM
Actually now that you mention it, I'd thought nothing of if before but this last week I've had a fair number of emails from customers asking if I can offer them an alternative payment method also for clips from my C4S stores. Perhaps just a coincidence?

gril
02-04-2017, 03:01 AM
Same thing happened to me. Guys keep asking me for alternative payment methods. Also my sales dropped by half...

boyru
02-04-2017, 04:42 AM
i have alternative payment for all clips, but customers dont want to save 20% of money and dont buy direct from me. why?

MissJu
02-04-2017, 08:39 AM
Hahaha, yeah yeah they cant put their cc..sure. They probably got banned!!!

Tea4Me
02-04-2017, 10:06 AM
Hahaha, yeah yeah they cant put their cc..sure. They probably got banned!!!

LOL I had that *same* thought (at first)! But, since others have mentioned it as well, I don't think that's the case. I'm guessing it's more site problems.... :P

boyru
02-04-2017, 10:10 AM
i've just tested and made 3 sales with my cards (russian cards!!!)
c4s cc processor is working, each transaction was made in 6 seconds!!!