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PixiieGirl
02-13-2017, 04:46 PM
so a little question, I've been going off the idea of "try lots of categories to see whats good" but I'm kinda doubting myself now, I've been a store for abouttt 2 months, so I'm a new store and I found one category did really well for me for a bit but seemed to well, stop getting me sales after a bit. No other category gets me consistant sales, should I try doing more in the same category or keep trying new ones? I dont want my content to get too ~samey~

Sinna (2pee4you)
02-13-2017, 04:57 PM
Ah, got it. Yes, they show when sorted by date, but I doubt many customers will change the default sorting if the clip they expect to see doesn't show. I looked at my store as if I was a customer and just entering the store, via a category, the clips don't show. Emailed support but still not fixed. Now my front page exposure time is gone for the third time in a row :( I am freezing updates until it's fixed.

I did change the sorting to date - new. Then changed it back to default - ascending. My clip is showing now. Probably not for customers who don't do this though.

I got another email about it just now that it's still because of server issues that are being fixed. So I guess we can't do much about it :(



Sorry if this is the wrong place for posting, I got bored of uploading gifs made out of different pictures so instead I am trying to make a gif out of different sections of my clip. The problem is, the size is coming out too big for 50 MB c4s allows. How can I can compress a gif made out of a video. I have tried making it super short abd so on, which does reduce the size but I have seen studios with beautiful gifs made out from the video (not a sequence of pictures) and they are long so I dnt think making it super short is the answer I am looking for. Thanks

The gif size increases with frames / second and with the resolution used. I typically use 400 * 225 (as 400 used to be / is(?) the max width on c4s previews) as resolution and 5 frames / second. Then I make 5 second gifs which are 1-2mb in size. It depends a little on the picture quality as well.

There are several freeware products available to make a gif animation from an mp4 video by selecting parts of the video or frames.

You can also use a software like ShareX (free) to "gif capture" your screen while you play the scene of the video you want to show (or in this case, your gif that is too big). ShareX will film that section and output a gif automatically. LICEcap is another software that can "gif film" a part of your screen. It's freeware as well.

justsometwat
02-13-2017, 04:58 PM
I'll do really, really well in one category, so I keep uploading until it does off, give it a month or more of a break, then return and I usually get those sales back for a while.

I think most people tend to get tired of the same one person and rotate through then return. Just my experience though :)

PixiieGirl
02-13-2017, 05:00 PM
I'll do really, really well in one category, so I keep uploading until it does off, give it a month or more of a break, then return and I usually get those sales back for a while.

I think most people tend to get tired of the same one person and rotate through then return. Just my experience though :)
okay that makes sense :)
do you think trying too many categories in the beginning is a negative?

Tea4Me
02-13-2017, 06:54 PM
Received my 1099 from Clips4sale today. It's postmarked Feb 10th from Miami, FL.

Tea4Me
02-13-2017, 07:00 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong place for posting, I got bored of uploading gifs made out of different pictures so instead I am trying to make a gif out of different sections of my clip. The problem is, the size is coming out too big for 50 MB c4s allows. How can I can compress a gif made out of a video. I have tried making it super short abd so on, which does reduce the size but I have seen studios with beautiful gifs made out from the video (not a sequence of pictures) and they are long so I dnt think making it super short is the answer I am looking for. Thanks

Hi. I've actually mentioned this before, but it probably got lost in the thread..... If you see a gif you like and you are curious how it is made, there are programs that will extract all of the frames of that gif and then you can kind of see how it was created. Like, how many frames they used and what the file size of the gif was. Just Google gif frame extractor or something like that. (I use gifframe.exe from Evanolds.com but I did a quick search and that site isn't up anymore....I've had it for a while). Perhaps that might help....

KittyLovelicks
02-13-2017, 08:56 PM
I'm wondering if I'm wasting my time on clips4sale...I just can't upload several clips a day, I don't have the time or the internet speed to be able to do it along side of camming. My videos are suffering because of my lack of decent audio and lighting. Unfortunately, I'm stuck in a catch 22 I can't get better equipment if I'm not making any money. This is the second month and my sales and traffic has decreased dramatically. I only made $78 of sales in the first month, nothing so far this month. I try and update my store at least 2-3 times a week. With such a low volume of uploads is it worth me continuing. Is uploading multiple times a day the only way to get income on this site?
The only category that actually sells for me is lactation, I'm no longer doing this so the only clips that are selling are my lactation ones! I've tried many different categories but nothing sells! What am I doing wrong (other than not making clips as often as suggested, and the lack of equipment)?? My store is here http://clips4sale.com/112458

justsometwat
02-13-2017, 09:11 PM
Part of it I think is that you're pricing some videos kind of high. I would make sure there's a $1/minute. It's hard to sell videos that are priced higher. Not a lot of people can sell for more than that.

I would also try to change the colors. Pink might be a bit too much and hard on the eyes :)

Tea4Me
02-13-2017, 09:18 PM
Is uploading multiple times a day the only way to get income on this site? http://clips4sale.com/112458

No. And if you check out many of the studios listed in the Top 50 on the main page, you'll notice they don't do multiple updates a day either.

KittyLovelicks
02-13-2017, 09:28 PM
Thanks, some clips are priced higher because they are fetish, I price my videos at $2pm...wow $1 a minute is so little especially since some of my videos are under 10 minutes, once c4s takes a cut it doesn't leave much profit. I'd be having to sell a high volume of videos to make it worth it. To be honest the mood I'm in today I'm close to just pulling the whole store down. I guess I'll drop the prices again and see if that makes a difference over the next week or so, if no sales from lowering prices then I guess we can rule that out as the issue. Should I just leave my store as the default colours? it tried to use pink to match my twitter and tumblr profiles. What looks good on my screen obviously doesn't look good to others.

Classy_Katy
02-13-2017, 11:06 PM
Studios charge the standard $1 a minute whether it's fetish or vanilla, I do add an extra $1 without it affecting sales. Are you making your own gifs? Make sure you use your best snapshot at the beginning of the gif as this shows as your clip image in the categories, I wouldn't use a an image giving your store info at the start, that isn't going to entice guys to click to see more. I prefer black on white because I find anything else harder to read, and if I find it harder to read, so do the guys who are my age. The site is being glitchy now so it's not a good time to judge.

lucymariexxxx
02-14-2017, 01:36 AM
Hya Guys, just reading a few of the last posts these would be my answers : )
First of all I do a dollar per min plus an extra dollar, I think if a customer really wants the video they will buy it regardless ( providing the quality is not too poor )
So here is the thing with equipment.. I have been doing this for 4 years and my equipment is sooooo cheap.
I use a panasonic full HD Hc-v110 and make sure the white balance is set correctly so there is not an orange glow
I use a £30 work light from a UK shop called Wicks. Now this light has a very high Watt and gets hot, but folds down and works for me. I find if this is combined with sunlight from a window..perfect! I cant do that because of neighbours, but have tried it and its even better, You can make a home made light reflector if you want to manipulate the light even further. The ideal is to make a 3 point light system by using two work lights and stick a high watt bulb in the ceiling light. I do not have the space for that, so use a worklight with two lights attached to the one frame.
I then just use windows movie maker and save the file in one HD and one standard size ( I choose the facebook option ) then I make a short 30 sec preview of the clip and save it. I then upload it into a free downloaded GIF maker GIF maker http://download.cnet.com/Free-Video-to-GIF-Converter/3000-2186_4-75628588.html and then save it in size 320 x 240, extract 5 frames per second and save in highest quality. There GIF comes out perfect!
Of course I would much prefer to be using an expensive HD camera, a great editing programme and have lots of soft lights that are not so harsh, but I get buy and it works for me : )
I think its very important to upload once a day at least, and when I do not follow this formula I can see the difference. I think there are a ton of girls who don't have to do this, but they either are in the top 50 or have a huge following from outside of clips4sale.

PixiieGirl
02-14-2017, 04:09 AM
I tend to price my videos $1/minute plus .99, should I reduce them by a dollar? my sales are really not great this month ahah and thats with uploading daily D:

BigRose
02-14-2017, 05:46 AM
About the pricing, I have very mixed experience. I tend to price my videos to 1$ per min, but when I have clips longer than 12 min I tend to lower my price, for example for 15 min clip I give a price of 13,99. Because my experience is that my longer clips do not sell as much if I price them 1$ per min, and for me it is better to sell a few clips at lower price than none at high, but that is my view on this, if I could sell at higher price I obviously would stick to that.

PixiieGirl
02-14-2017, 06:47 AM
Studios charge the standard $1 a minute whether it's fetish or vanilla, I do add an extra $1 without it affecting sales. Are you making your own gifs? Make sure you use your best snapshot at the beginning of the gif as this shows as your clip image in the categories, I wouldn't use a an image giving your store info at the start, that isn't going to entice guys to click to see more. I prefer black on white because I find anything else harder to read, and if I find it harder to read, so do the guys who are my age. The site is being glitchy now so it's not a good time to judge.
I didn't think about that with the gifs I've just been letting it autogenerate and so all of my first stills have been the name of the clip ahh! thanks for the tip x

Classy_Katy
02-14-2017, 07:09 AM
I didn't think about that with the gifs I've just been letting it autogenerate and so all of my first stills have been the name of the clip ahh! thanks for the tip x

You're welcome, I think it's really important which image shows in the categories. It's best to make your own gifs too.

Classy_Katy
02-14-2017, 07:10 AM
I tend to price my videos $1/minute plus .99, should I reduce them by a dollar? my sales are really not great this month ahah and thats with uploading daily D:

No don't reduce them, you're not charging too highly.

PixiieGirl
02-14-2017, 07:15 AM
No don't reduce them, you're not charging too highly.
ok thanks I'm just doing a bit of a panic atm tbh hahaha, but I'm gonna redo my store, redo my gifs and research new categories :)

PrettyPuppet
02-15-2017, 12:10 AM
I read through every page of this thread and it's been so helpful. I'm in the process of filming my first clips so that I can open a store. I still have a few questions that I didn't find the answer to, it'd be great if anyone could help me out.

Do my first 10 clips need to be related to my main category? I'm still trying to figure out what I'll focus on because I have so many fetishes I love in real life and ones I'd love to try filming. I'm considering making my main category taboo or age regression because I am into ddlg, but I'm confused about what the rules are for this. I've browsed the clip previews to get an idea, but it's difficult to see what is allowed and what has just not been caught yet.

Is saying words like daddy/little girl/etc allowed? Should I just refrain from saying a number? Are stuffed animals allowed in clips?

Also, are there any rules for kitten play/dressing up like an animal?

I have several obvious self harm scars. I was planning on doing some scar fetish videos for these. It seems like there's a lot of interpretations for what this entails which is cool, but also a bit confusing. I've filmed one foot fetish clip of me painting my toes. I was considering making a subcategory or a second format of it under scar fetish because all you can see in the frame is my feet, hands and arms which are very scarred. The clip is completely silent. Do you think having the main view of the video showing scarred parts of my body would be enough to put it in that category, or should I wait until I have a video actually talking about/showing off the scars?

Sinna (2pee4you)
02-15-2017, 12:54 AM
I read through every page of this thread and it's been so helpful. I'm in the process of filming my first clips so that I can open a store. I still have a few questions that I didn't find the answer to, it'd be great if anyone could help me out.

Do my first 10 clips need to be related to my main category? I'm still trying to figure out what I'll focus on because I have so many fetishes I love in real life and ones I'd love to try filming. I'm considering making my main category taboo or age regression because I am into ddlg, but I'm confused about what the rules are for this. I've browsed the clip previews to get an idea, but it's difficult to see what is allowed and what has just not been caught yet.

Is saying words like daddy/little girl/etc allowed? Should I just refrain from saying a number? Are stuffed animals allowed in clips?

Also, are there any rules for kitten play/dressing up like an animal?

I have several obvious self harm scars. I was planning on doing some scar fetish videos for these. It seems like there's a lot of interpretations for what this entails which is cool, but also a bit confusing. I've filmed one foot fetish clip of me painting my toes. I was considering making a subcategory or a second format of it under scar fetish because all you can see in the frame is my feet, hands and arms which are very scarred. The clip is completely silent. Do you think having the main view of the video showing scarred parts of my body would be enough to put it in that category, or should I wait until I have a video actually talking about/showing off the scars?

Hello :) Nice to meet you!

Of your first 10 clips, 5 need to have your store's category as their main category. You can add the other 5 to whichever category you like.

About the age thing, it's tricky. You can't appear to be underaged, but you can dress up as an adult baby. I would copy these questions and send them to the c4s support. They will help you.

About the scars or any video in general: Rule of thumb is, if it contains at least 1/3 of the related content (in this case, scars) it's okay to post in that category. You could also just talk about scars and that would already qualify. If your obvious scars are prominently in the picture while doing your nails, I would say that qualifies.

LazyCat
02-15-2017, 06:18 AM
Hey everyone!

I'm looking for a few beta test customers for a new product we are launching. We provide you with a web site (and will buy you a domain if you don't currently have one).

Why would this interest you?


You get a free web site for you clips studio that requires very little effort to maintain (we pull data from clips4sale so 90% of your web site is built automatically).
Automatic nightly backups of your clips4sale studio
Easily add photos/previews/gifs to your existing clips4sale videos
Schedule tweets that are targeted to your videos (and we optimize when they are sent)
Actor support (if you have multiple actors)


What makes a good candidate for our beta program?


You are an active studio (publish at least twice a week ideally)
Do not currently have a web site, but want one
Interested in adding additional photos to each clip for promotion
Use social media to promote your studio (Twitter)
Would be willing to give me constructive feedback in return for free product (for one year)


If you are interested in this, PM me to discuss further. I'm planning on 4 or 5 beta customers, and hopefully at least one larger studio with multiple actors. The LazyCat studio is powered by videoweb right now: http://www.lazycat.net/. Check out our product page at https://www.videoweb.me/.

thanks!

Garrett

EllieGold
02-15-2017, 01:56 PM
I go to start selling my soul because I'm making $3 a day all week. I don't know what else to do but sell it. lol

Mistress Anika
02-15-2017, 07:37 PM
OK I wrote out a long ass post and just deleted it all because I didn't like how it sounded. I'm aware that I'm going to get backlash for this and I am prepared. But it's something I feel extremely strongly about so I will post anyway.

It is my strong belief that you don't need to buy a book from a clip maker about how to be a better clip maker. It is similar to buying into get-rich-quick schemes and pyramid schemes. It profits off people who are struggling to make money and it's just unnecessary.

There is far too much free information on this forum and other forums. You can also learn by simply looking at other clip stores (particularly the successful top 50 ones) and seeing what they do (but not copying directly). You should experiment to see what makes you money and what doesn't. Try different fetishes, different types of GIFs/previews, different styles of descriptions, different posting schedules (as long as you update your store frequently and consistently, which is the main thing that will increase your income). Accept customs and suggestions, they will provide guaranteed income, allow you to try out new fetishes you might not have thought of, and give you a more interactive relationship with your customers. Plus everyone's experience is different so how can you know that what works for the person who wrote the book will work for you?

I'm sorry for the negative post. But I strongly believe there's no need to line another clip maker's pockets to learn things you can learn for free. Experiment, learn what works for you and what doesn't and keep doing what works.

Your right. You dont need a book telling you how to do something but it dosn't hurt. People buy all kinds of e-courses, books, ect... hell people still buy cookbooks when almost any receipe can be found for-free on the internet.
At some point throwing things at the wall and seeing what work takes more time than its worth. Hell even just reading this 300+ page thread, could take you days. Days i'd rather spend doing something else (though when I started on c4s, I did read most of it)

Also as for liening her pocket? its a $1.99 ebook, shes not selling $100 lessons or something. Just for the shear orginizational value, its worth the 2 dollars... most people could find that much change in their couch.

Mistress Anika
02-15-2017, 08:10 PM
so a little question, I've been going off the idea of "try lots of categories to see whats good" but I'm kinda doubting myself now, I've been a store for about 2 months, so I'm a new store and I found one category did really well for me for a bit but seemed to well, stop getting me sales after a bit. No other category gets me consistent sales, should I try doing more in the same category or keep trying new ones? I dont want my content to get too ~samey~

Variety may be the spice of life but at a point, it's too much.

My technique for trying new categories is a little more structured. If I plan on doing X clips per month 50-75% of those are clips should be categories that sold well last month or my favorite categories to film. I review my on-going list of categories I want to try, and pick 2-5 of those "new" categories and film a few of each to fill in my schedule.

So say I want to post 1 clip a day or 30clips per month. 15-20 will be my top sales categories and the remaining 10-15 clips will be new categories. With 3-5 clips made for each new category, spaced out over the month. Someone else on the forum mentioned a similar method. The goal is that not only are you trying "new" categories but you're giving the category's audience a chance to find you. A bunch of one-off clips won't help your sales much in the big picture.

Also if your having issues with your sales falling off in a particular category 1)google to see if your clips are being shared 2)check out the supporting/similar categories and try your hand at them.

BigRose
02-16-2017, 12:41 AM
just doing a bit of a panic atm tbh hahaha, but I'm gonna redo my store, redo my gifs and research new categories :)

Also maybe add a short preview, max 10 seconds, a sort of cliffhanger, when it gets really intense boom it ends, sorry boys you'll have to buy clip to find out…it works for me, of course you will get a lot of justhereforthepreview type of customers, that’s why you keep it short but interesting.

EllieGold
02-16-2017, 12:58 AM
Sinna, I bought your book and I reviewed you under my Amazon alias. :)

PixiieGirl
02-16-2017, 02:58 AM
Variety may be the spice of life but at a point, it's too much.

My technique for trying new categories is a little more structured. If I plan on doing X clips per month 50-75% of those are clips should be categories that sold well last month or my favorite categories to film. I review my on-going list of categories I want to try, and pick 2-5 of those "new" categories and film a few of each to fill in my schedule.

So say I want to post 1 clip a day or 30clips per month. 15-20 will be my top sales categories and the remaining 10-15 clips will be new categories. With 3-5 clips made for each new category, spaced out over the month. Someone else on the forum mentioned a similar method. The goal is that not only are you trying "new" categories but you're giving the category's audience a chance to find you. A bunch of one-off clips won't help your sales much in the big picture.

Also if your having issues with your sales falling off in a particular category 1)google to see if your clips are being shared 2)check out the supporting/similar categories and try your hand at them.
thank you this is really useful advice! I'm gonna implement this strategy from March :) <3

boyru
02-16-2017, 12:52 PM
I go to start selling my soul because I'm making $3 a day all week. I don't know what else to do but sell it. lol

i'm making $11 a day all week, and i dont know why.

thank You

KittyLovelicks
02-16-2017, 06:59 PM
I've lowered all my videos to $1pm plus .99 cents still no sales, and very little traffic. I did try a new category this week Glove Fetish, that video got lots of hits, more than any of my other videos but no sales. What am I doing wrong? I'm not using previews, but I am including a good screen shot image in my description, i use keywords, I have decent 1 paragraph descriptions (I make myself horny writing then so I know they are good!), i'm making my own gifs of the best action in the clip. I've also been following Sinna's store guide (thank you!).

I feel like there's something I'm missing here...I know my audio isn't the best, I'm saving up for lighting and audio equipment. I haven't made a sale this entire month, not even since I dropped my prices. I now have a lot of $5 and under clips, still no sales. I'm trying different categories but most of my videos are in the BBW category. I have a design degree, so I'm pretty good with all this video and technical stuff, but it's not helping me much with working out where I'm going wrong.

I'd love to make $1000 a month from my clips site, but I know I'll never reach that level, I'm not attractive or popular enough. Updating daily for a week didn't increase my sales, I did get more traffic that week at least. Honestly I would be happy if I could make $100-$400 a month.

Tea4Me
02-16-2017, 07:17 PM
I've lowered all my videos to $1pm plus .99 cents still no sales, and very little traffic. I did try a new category this week Glove Fetish, that video got lots of hits, more than any of my other videos but no sales. What am I doing wrong? I'm not using previews, but I am including a good screen shot image in my description, i use keywords, I have decent 1 paragraph descriptions (I make myself horny writing then so I know they are good!), i'm making my own gifs of the best action in the clip. I've also been following Sinna's store guide (thank you!).

I feel like there's something I'm missing here...I know my audio isn't the best, I'm saving up for lighting and audio equipment. I haven't made a sale this entire month, not even since I dropped my prices. I now have a lot of $5 and under clips, still no sales. I'm trying different categories but most of my videos are in the BBW category. I have a design degree, so I'm pretty good with all this video and technical stuff, but it's not helping me much with working out where I'm going wrong.

I'd love to make $1000 a month from my clips site, but I know I'll never reach that level, I'm not attractive or popular enough. Updating daily for a week didn't increase my sales, I did get more traffic that week at least. Honestly I would be happy if I could make $100-$400 a month.

I had a look at your store and a couple of things came to mind....First is...your content seems pretty vanilla and Clips4Sale is more geared towards fetish stuff. It just seems to me that guys can find similar content for free all over tube sites. The second thing is it seems like you show a lot in the preview image/gif and I would think of making them in a way where it's more teasing and not showing the whole enchilada. If guys can see everything, pretty much, in the preview image, why buy the clip?

It is TOTALLY possible to make 1K a month and MORE. But perhaps you might have to change your focus....? Maybe tie in more fetishes?

KittyLovelicks
02-16-2017, 07:41 PM
I tried smoking and glove fetish this week, neither has sold. Glove fetish vid gots lots of views though. I do want to do more fetishes, but I'm finding it hard to know what to do in the videos. Is there a place where I can watch others fetish videos for free to get some ideas? I've read lots about fetishes but because I haven't done them, or even seen them done in a video, I don't feel confident enough. I really like squirting and have several videos on this category but that must be too vanilla as well.
Should I just enable previews and only use the first 10 seconds of my video (5 seconds is an opening title page), instead of using a gif? I feel like I'm just so crap at this, and I really want to get better. :( I can't work a normal job so making videos and camming is the only way for me to make money. I'm drowing in so much debt, if I could be a prostitute I would right now. Sorry, really stressed today, none of that is anyone's problem but mine. Thanks for your feedback.

BigRose
02-16-2017, 09:17 PM
I tried smoking and glove fetish this week, neither has sold. Glove fetish vid gots lots of views though. I do want to do more fetishes, but I'm finding it hard to know what to do in the videos. Is there a place where I can watch others fetish videos for free to get some ideas? I've read lots about fetishes but because I haven't done them, or even seen them done in a video, I don't feel confident enough. I really like squirting and have several videos on this category but that must be too vanilla as well.
Should I just enable previews and only use the first 10 seconds of my video (5 seconds is an opening title page), instead of using a gif? I feel like I'm just so crap at this, and I really want to get better. :( I can't work a normal job so making videos and camming is the only way for me to make money. I'm drowing in so much debt, if I could be a prostitute I would right now. Sorry, really stressed today, none of that is anyone's problem but mine. Thanks for your feedback.

Don't give up, it can happen for you. We all have been there, sometimes some of us are still there when you know you have a great clip but still low sales.
Second, don't try to force it, I understand that you are in a stressed situation but it will show in your clips and that is not sexy. Maybe take a day off from filming and just relax, brainstorm the ideas, and then start filming.
When I was newer studio and hit a wall with no sales, but had a decent amount of clips already in the store, I took a couple of clips that were really good in my opinion (from one category) and made a combo, one clip, made a nice description, gif, and a teaser short preview, and I made I think special 3 day price or something (be careful not to sound too SELL like if you mention price), because I knew that these clips represent who I am and if they will see them they will find out how fabulous I am and buy other clips. And it did work, plus the clip that was part of this combo, but was alone sitting in my store for 2 months with zero sale became my number one selling clip that month. Maybe you should try something like that. And also I would suggest that you add a little extra, your thing if you like, what is about you that stands out, or add/stick to gloves and maybe change type of gloves or something like that, definitely try different things, go to the next level. I think it is good that you lowered your price, but don’t expect people rushing to buy the clips just for that, you still have to deliver and it is ongoing process. About the preview, if you make a preview make sure that it is interesting, if you tend to show a title and an empty room for instance, than it is better to not have a preview. It can turn around, just think positive.

BigRose
02-16-2017, 09:58 PM
Oh I forgot about fetishes, whatever you do don’t pick the busiest on the site, at least not yet, find some fetish on site that you would be comfortable doing or you see yourself enjoying, that is a major advantage, because people spot fake. Than research it, google it, and try it, that is the only way you will know if it works for you.

boyru
02-16-2017, 11:32 PM
No traffic, no sales - no new clips. That is my strategy for this time.
There were days (1-4 Feb) with no new clips and $35 daily sales.

Classy_Katy
02-17-2017, 12:47 AM
I tried smoking and glove fetish this week, neither has sold. Glove fetish vid gots lots of views though. I do want to do more fetishes, but I'm finding it hard to know what to do in the videos. Is there a place where I can watch others fetish videos for free to get some ideas? I've read lots about fetishes but because I haven't done them, or even seen them done in a video, I don't feel confident enough. I really like squirting and have several videos on this category but that must be too vanilla as well.
Should I just enable previews and only use the first 10 seconds of my video (5 seconds is an opening title page), instead of using a gif? I feel like I'm just so crap at this, and I really want to get better. :( I can't work a normal job so making videos and camming is the only way for me to make money. I'm drowing in so much debt, if I could be a prostitute I would right now. Sorry, really stressed today, none of that is anyone's problem but mine. Thanks for your feedback.

Back to a point I made earlier, you really need to stop making your first image an image of your store name...this is the only image potential customers will see when they visit a category and want to choose a clip. See the effect it has in glove fetish, click through the images in the carousel and see yours with the others - http://clips4sale.com/list/en/category/82/GLOVE-FETISH. Customers may click out of curiosity but nothing about that image is saying "buy me".

Glove fetish was my first best selling category. These guys like a girl who shares their fetish or they want a femdom twist on it. I didn't even film in HD in those days but I did really well in that category. I started (as I have done with other fetishes that have turned out well) by simply talking to them through the camera and showing them the gloves that I have. I put them on in front of the camera and I take them off again at the end. You get guys liking household gloves (they have collections of every type and colour), surgical, leather and satin. You have a partner, would he go for a household/rubber glove handjob? Just don't forget the lube! You could talk to the camera about giving him a handjob. Also in masturbation clips, they really want to see your face.

Another thing has occurred to me, are you talking in your clips? I use the 10 second preview so guys can hear my voice when that's relevant. I usually say in my description that I am talking/explaining to them so they know that I am speaking in the clip.

I think if anything, the extra image above the description is a distraction from what you have written...you already have a gif that shows what they need to see.

Louise Love
02-17-2017, 10:20 AM
I tried smoking and glove fetish this week, neither has sold.

For your smoking clips, use a dark background with some light hitting from the side. Guys like to see the smoke and so by tweaking your set uo you should be able to get a better response. If you enjoy making smoking clips, study up some because it can be quite successful. Even looking at how smoking scenes are done in old film noir movies can give you some tips.

Also, it can take time to enter into new fetishes; customers like to make sure you are not a one-hit wonder because they usually like to know they can get more than a couple of clips from a model they like over time. It's hard to get into a new TV show when there are only one or two episodes out, especially if you're in the mood to binge watch. Try to add to each category regularly over time so they can keep seeing your name. Good luck! And I love your logo!

justsometwat
02-17-2017, 02:53 PM
Make sure you watermark you videos, especially the smoking ones. People pirate the smoking ones like crazy! I used to make quite a bit of money from them, but gave up when they ended up all over the internet.

plussizeangel
02-18-2017, 03:23 PM
New to this site. Thanks for all the helpful info. I've signed up on another modeling site, so i am aware of the forms required to post media online, copies of vaild identification and what not.
My question is about how pay works when you have someone other than yourself star in a video with you?
Even if you are just starting out, you will build up a plethora of videos, a lot of which are only yourself, and only some that have guest stars. How do you pay the guest for that video? Do you pay them every time a royalty is made on that video?
When you, the main model is paid, does your pay stub show which videos are being payed out for and how much, so that if you do have a partner, and are in an agreement with them, that u can split the money accordingly?

Lilypussy
02-18-2017, 04:26 PM
This month is dreadful for sales. I'm full on panicking. Sales have been shit for me for months now. I'm feeling like I'm bashing my head against a wall. I've been on clips for sales nearly 3 years now? Never made anywhere near the amount I should be at by now :( but what little I do earn I need to much to stop completely. I can't go out to work a vanilla job right now due to lack of child care. I don't get to film often but try to upload once a day. My clips don't look as nice as others as I film with a potatoe but been trying to Improve lighting, not made any difference sales wise. I feel I don't look as good as I use to either since having a kid I've put on weight.
My name on here isn't my c4s store name. I found a store called pussy lily on c4s after I registered here lol but I'm not linked to her. She probably actually makes money
End of pity part :(

Tea4Me
02-18-2017, 05:28 PM
New to this site. Thanks for all the helpful info. I've signed up on another modeling site, so i am aware of the forms required to post media online, copies of vaild identification and what not.
My question is about how pay works when you have someone other than yourself star in a video with you?
Even if you are just starting out, you will build up a plethora of videos, a lot of which are only yourself, and only some that have guest stars. How do you pay the guest for that video? Do you pay them every time a royalty is made on that video?
When you, the main model is paid, does your pay stub show which videos are being payed out for and how much, so that if you do have a partner, and are in an agreement with them, that u can split the money accordingly?

That would have to be decided between you and the other person--how much you are going to pay them. The pay stub does not have a break down of the videos sold, BUT, you can look that up yourself in the sales reports in the admin. You'd just put in the dates for that pay period and you can see how many of each clip you've sold during that month. You also want to make sure, if you split the money, that it is the amount after Clips4Sale takes their cut. So if you list a clip for $9.99, you're only getting $5.99. AND.....for paying taxes, *you* are going to have to pay taxes on the FULL amount of money you've received from Clips4Sale. I don't know how you could prove that you paid someone else. Perhaps someone else here can chime in or I'd say you'd have to talk to an accountant or something.

Tea4Me
02-18-2017, 05:49 PM
Question: Do you trust clip orders from Russia? (I know some of you are FROM Russia....) It's just that when I had my paysite, the majority of the hacking attempts came from there and so I'm always leery of clip sales from there. Paranoid it's just ending up on tube sites or pirate forums. (And yes, I know Americans also pirate content....lol)

MissJu
02-18-2017, 08:30 PM
Question: Do you trust clip orders from Russia? (I know some of you are FROM Russia....) It's just that when I had my paysite, the majority of the hacking attempts came from there and so I'm always leery of clip sales from there. Paranoid it's just ending up on tube sites or pirate forums. (And yes, I know Americans also pirate content....lol)
My vids got stolen but not by customers who bought from russia and I have good buyers who spend 200$ more every month and for Russia that is not small money because exchange 57 rub = 1$. That is my experience. I have people who buys from Pakistan and china,and even Saudi arabia.
I dont know how many actual russian dudes pirate content some of them are ukranians, polish, Lithuanians. Just because they were part of Ussr doesnt make them russian. And they would get offended that someone calls them Russian:)))

dave101
02-19-2017, 03:56 PM
Which service has the best payout? And is it worth it to have a better Payout % even if it means less overall traffic?
C4S, Curvage Clips, ManyVids ETC...

Cam_Model_Jess
02-19-2017, 07:42 PM
My question is about how pay works when you have someone other than yourself star in a video with you?
Even if you are just starting out, you will build up a plethora of videos, a lot of which are only yourself, and only some that have guest stars. How do you pay the guest for that video? Do you pay them every time a royalty is made on that video?
When you, the main model is paid, does your pay stub show which videos are being payed out for and how much, so that if you do have a partner, and are in an agreement with them, that u can split the money accordingly?

I've been doing this for 4+ years & I'd say: NO!! Don't pay out royalty. That sounds miserable. A complex mess which would likely cost you more time & effort than you'd ever earn in sales off the content. Pay a flat rate per video or per hour or just trade content. Yikes! Unless you're married & file joint taxes, I wouldn't try to share profit.

Sinna (2pee4you)
02-20-2017, 11:16 AM
Sinna, I bought your book and I reviewed you under my Amazon alias. :)

Ah, I didn't find it at first, but now I did :) Thanks!


This month is dreadful for sales. I'm full on panicking. Sales have been shit for me for months now. I'm feeling like I'm bashing my head against a wall. I've been on clips for sales nearly 3 years now? Never made anywhere near the amount I should be at by now :( but what little I do earn I need to much to stop completely. I can't go out to work a vanilla job right now due to lack of child care. I don't get to film often but try to upload once a day. My clips don't look as nice as others as I film with a potatoe but been trying to Improve lighting, not made any difference sales wise. I feel I don't look as good as I use to either since having a kid I've put on weight.
My name on here isn't my c4s store name. I found a store called pussy lily on c4s after I registered here lol but I'm not linked to her. She probably actually makes money
End of pity part :(

Overweight is everywhere in the toplist. I know that not everyone is comfortable filming it, but it could be an option for you. I can't say much to help because I don't know anything else about you or your store.


Which service has the best payout? And is it worth it to have a better Payout % even if it means less overall traffic?
C4S, Curvage Clips, ManyVids ETC...

The service with the best payout was around 85% but I think they never got traffic to get it off the ground. It was a top domain, something with amateur but I can't find it right now.

Anyway, your question is very broad. Yes it can be worth it, but it's also likely that more traffic helps you better. Depends on what you do. As a rule of thumb I would prefer more traffic over higher payout in most cases, but I would always try / calculate it. 10% from $100 are more than 90% from $10.

Classy_Katy
02-20-2017, 11:27 AM
I feel I don't look as good as I use to either since having a kid I've put on weight.
My name on here isn't my c4s store name. (

Gaining weight and belly fetish!

MistressX
02-20-2017, 03:34 PM
cant log in to my admin... again. Main page loads fine. This is really frustrating me. It's happened a few days this week. Are they banning my IP for a certain amount of time because I am doing a lot of updates and changes to the clips I already have up? Ugh!

Cam_Model_Jess
02-20-2017, 10:13 PM
cant log in to my admin... again. Main page loads fine. This is really frustrating me. It's happened a few days this week. Are they banning my IP for a certain amount of time because I am doing a lot of updates and changes to the clips I already have up? Ugh!

I don't think they'd do that. There has been a lot of funky stuff going on with the html so I have to constantly fix clips. There are days where I update 20 listings.

justsometwat
02-21-2017, 08:16 AM
I've made $575 so far this month between my two stores. I'm gonna try to pump out a few more updates before the month is over. I really need to get as close to $1,000 as possible.

CatBBW
02-21-2017, 10:10 AM
So I am wondering if I'm too expensive for some of the stuff I offer in clips.... is the "going rate" around $1 a minute plus an extra dollar? I'm talking about your bog standard "vanilla fetish", such as BBW, nudity. So 5 mins of me shaking my fat ass would be $5.99 (working out to less than £2.50 for me) ? I know that I shouldn't worry about what other people are doing and to charge what I feel I am worth, however, this isn't bringing in sales. I do keep slacking with the uploading daily, but even when I do a run of uploading every day for a week, that still doesn't bring in sales.

So...lower prices for the more vanilla ones?