View Full Version : The Clips4Sale Thread
Cam_Model_Jess
02-21-2017, 10:26 AM
I haven't found that lowering prices brings more sales for me, but you could try making a 7 min clip for $6.99 & see what happens. Yes, the standard rate for short clips is $1/min plus $0.99. I've seen a lot of producers discount their longer clips. Some have a maximum they'll charge regardless of length (ex: 12-18 min is still $12.99), but I only discount clips once they exceed 20 min. I charge $19.99 max regardless of length... until the clip gets into the 30 min range, then I charge more again.
You have to find the right numbers for you.
MistressX
02-21-2017, 10:13 PM
So do I have to keep the 10 original clips in my store's category? I chose FemDom as the category and none of the clips that are in that category are selling. Can I change them or do I have to keep those 10 in the femdom category forever?
Classy_Katy
02-21-2017, 10:54 PM
So do I have to keep the 10 original clips in my store's category? I chose FemDom as the category and none of the clips that are in that category are selling. Can I change them or do I have to keep those 10 in the femdom category forever?
You can change their category...they will go in at the same date and not as a new clip but may show on the recent update list in the new category, depending on the dates of the other clips in there.
Sinna (2pee4you)
02-22-2017, 06:52 AM
If you look at the top right now, there is only 1 studio charging the "standard". The rest is either charging way more or less. Since I am on c4s, it has been like that. Although Tara has increased from minutes + 4$ to minutes +$10 over time.
I have become about $2 cheaper and I'd say I am making less.
I tested this on another store, where I charged the absolute minimum and then minutes * 3 ($60 for 20 minutes). The result was roughly the same at the end of the month, but way more people had my clips when I was cheaper.
Tea4Me
02-22-2017, 10:43 AM
Back when I ran my paysite, every time I increased the price, I got a boost in sales. Every. time. I think it has to do with the psychology of pricing and people thinking if it's more expensive, it must be better.
On C4S, I price my clips $1 above standard. So $9.99 for a 8 min clip, $11.99 for a 10 min clip, etc. With the exception of Findom clips and a few others.
I guess I also think about the type of customer I want buying my clips. If a guy is too cheap, he can go buy someone else's clips. But the key is getting them hooked on *you* and so they *have* to pay. ;-)
SuperPookie
02-22-2017, 12:04 PM
Which service has the best payout? And is it worth it to have a better Payout % even if it means less overall traffic?
C4S, Curvage Clips, ManyVids ETC...
It is AmateurPorn.com and it's either 80 or 85%. I'd have to check. There's no traffic though. Seriously none. I've been on like a year and a half maybe more and made the 100 payout once. To be honest I'd planned to close my account there and you just reminded me lol
SuperPookie
02-22-2017, 12:06 PM
However as with all things your mileage may vary. From what I've seen young alternative looking girls doing the high end of amateur with vanilla more traditional porn content as well as cosplay does the best there.
boyru
02-22-2017, 12:24 PM
Prices dont matter now, people dont have money to buy all they want to have.
Imagine one customer who wanna get 40 fresh clips from 10 studios every month. Where can he find ~500 every month?
I have only 4 customers on paysite who stay continuously rebilled since 2004.
justsometwat
02-22-2017, 12:31 PM
You are wrong about that in a whole bunch of different ways.
boyru
02-22-2017, 12:39 PM
i dont know who can buy all HOT clips every month
i upload ~60 clips monthly and noone can pay ~$600 for them
it is absolutely impossible
justsometwat
02-22-2017, 12:43 PM
Because no one wants your videos.
I upload anywhere between 20-50 a month and I have a person that literally buys them as they go live. He spends a LOT of money and has, consistently for two years. He's just one of the few that buy all or almost all of my videos... Because people want femdom videos.
You're wasting server space by uploading all of these videos that never sell.
Tea4Me
02-22-2017, 01:18 PM
i dont know who can buy all HOT clips every month
i upload ~60 clips monthly and noone can pay ~$600 for them
it is absolutely impossible
And your point being? Clip buying is a LUXURY. Are we suppose to feel pity for the perverts who can't afford everything *they* want? Because I certainly don't.
boyru
02-22-2017, 01:42 PM
They will never overpay $500 for 60 clips if they can get them being rebilled on paysite for $90 of charge for 3 months.
3 months paysite access - updated with 90 clips and 6000 pics, and access for 40gbytes of old stuff.
They will never pay $900 for clips and $200 for pics on C4S and I4S.
Tea4Me
02-22-2017, 01:56 PM
They will never overpay $500 for 60 clips if they can get them being rebilled on paysite for $90 of charge for 3 months.
3 months paysite access - updated with 90 clips and 6000 pics, and access for 40gbytes of old stuff.
They will never pay $900 for clips and $200 for pics on C4S and I4S.
Well not if you are going to give them the option to get them all on a paysite--of course not! Duh! I don't even understand why people DO paysites anymore. Why give away all of your hard work for mere pennies? Not to mention it's so easy for guys to do site rips of all of your content and 'share' it all over the internet.
justsometwat
02-22-2017, 02:00 PM
I was typing all of this in a lot more of a mean way, then switched apps and can't find where I typed it, but yeah I agree with Tea4Me. Not to mention boyru uploads WAY too much to his pay site for such a cheap membership.
I offer a membership with many vids and people still buy my individual videos on c4s where they are more expensive.
boyru
02-22-2017, 02:04 PM
Well not if you are going to give them the option to get them all on a paysite--of course not! Duh! I don't even understand why people DO paysites anymore. Why give away all of your hard work for mere pennies? Not to mention it's so easy for guys to do site rips of all of your content and 'share' it all over the internet.
i have ~400 customers (leachers/hackers/pirates) blacklisted on my billing
they will never can signup
i have very hard restrictions on paysite
c4s is good (BEST), but we can not store all eggs in one bag.
justsometwat
02-22-2017, 02:13 PM
Well, no shit. All of us have other sites we upload to. I doubt there's many of us that ONLY depend on C4S. What does it say for you that you've had to deal with 400 people that have stolen your content? Why even bother with that when every site helps you with pirates. I have gotten numerous people banned from multiple sites and now I don't have to worry about it on my end. You can't stop all pirates from joining your site, you probably get your whole site ripped before you even notice that it's happening.
Whatever, I don't care if you get your videos pirated because you're too hard headed to listen to anything anyone says.
DonaDiabla
02-22-2017, 05:00 PM
Well, I am just going to be honest with you. Frankly, you are uploading way too much for little profit and you are making content just for yourself. Yet, you do not make any content for customers. You see, the adult industry is a business and you should be making some type of money off clips. We all told you to get some fetishes, a marketing plan, and another stream of income. Because your personal fetishes are not making you any type of money and you need to explore somewhat. However, you are constantly complaining or bellyaching about some bullshit. Yet, I have not heard you say that you are willing to change your business to make money.:)
i dont know who can buy all HOT clips every month
i upload ~60 clips monthly and noone can pay ~$600 for them
it is absolutely impossible
Tea4Me
02-22-2017, 08:31 PM
Question about taxes....do you or have any of you tried to claim part of your home as a business deduction? My boyfriend thinks I should be able to and I told him my tax guy states the law says the area of my home has to be used *exclusively* for my business. But then his ex-wife did day care for a while and she got to claim all sorts of home-related expenses. (A quick Google search and I quote: "Family child care is a unique business in which you can deduct hundreds and hundreds of items for your business. No other home-based business can deduct what you can deduct."). In a way you think that we *should* be able to claim a partial deduction as where we shoot our clips is an essential part *of* our business.
Sinna (2pee4you)
02-23-2017, 12:59 AM
Yes, I do claim some things as business deduction. However, not nearly as much as I could (and should). Like, which normal person needs 6 showers a day? 4 loads of laundry? etc. It's just that I am not too keen on explaining why (pee fetish and pee / wetting videos) so I pay too much taxes. The room I work in and the room I edit my clips in are partially being deducted as a business expense (part of the rent). The bathroom is not, although I am far more in there for work than for other things.
boyru
02-23-2017, 03:28 AM
Well, I am just going to be honest with you. Frankly, you are uploading way too much for little profit and you are making content just for yourself. Yet, you do not make any content for customers. You see, the adult industry is a business and you should be making some type of money off clips. We all told you to get some fetishes, a marketing plan, and another stream of income. Because your personal fetishes are not making you any type of money and you need to explore somewhat. However, you are constantly complaining or bellyaching about some bullshit. Yet, I have not heard you say that you are willing to change your business to make money.:)
Quote: Yet, you do not make any content for customers.
They ask me to film nude Girls, pussy licking, golden shower, dildo, strapon, shemale on female domination, male-on-male-on-female.
This stuff is not legal in our country.
CatBBW
02-23-2017, 03:31 AM
Quote: Yet, you do not make any content for customers.
They ask me to film nude Girls, pussy licking, golden shower, dildo, strapon, shemale on female domination, male-on-male-on-female.
This stuff is not legal in our country.
I wasn't aware that C4S only have eight categories. I must have missed that when signing up.
PixiieGirl
02-23-2017, 05:06 AM
lord theres so many non-nude fetishes on C4S like your point makes no sense
on a positive note, I have all my clip ideas for March together, updating every day, in one main category and two smaller ones, I've not done well in Feb so I'm ready to turn it around! thanks for all the advice everyone :) (specially you 2pee :))
DonaDiabla
02-23-2017, 07:05 AM
Frankly, your statements makes no sense from a business viewpoint and I will tell you why. I know that Russian porngraphy laws are bit unclear but you can make non-nude content. In addition, there are several Russian clip producers on C4S who do artistic nudes and they sell. Plus, where is this golden shower category on C4S? Most content sites do not have an golden shower category. MMF and Trans content can be made using non-nude tactics. :)
Quote: Yet, you do not make any content for customers.
They ask me to film nude Girls, pussy licking, golden shower, dildo, strapon, shemale on female domination, male-on-male-on-female.
This stuff is not legal in our country.
Glamourmilf
02-23-2017, 07:15 AM
Regarding fart clips, ( did a search here, but nothing came up,).
I can fart on command in my cam shows, and am looking to add this to my clip store.
But, if anyone does these types of clips, how long are they? And do you just keep filming between farts, or push pause until another one comes out?
Thank in advance.:)
Cam_Model_Jess
02-23-2017, 08:44 AM
Question about taxes....do you or have any of you tried to claim part of your home as a business deduction? My boyfriend thinks I should be able to and I told him my tax guy states the law says the area of my home has to be used *exclusively* for my business. But then his ex-wife did day care for a while and she got to claim all sorts of home-related expenses. (A quick Google search and I quote: "Family child care is a unique business in which you can deduct hundreds and hundreds of items for your business. No other home-based business can deduct what you can deduct."). In a way you think that we *should* be able to claim a partial deduction as where we shoot our clips is an essential part *of* our business.
Yes, there is worksheet. Daycare does have very unique rules. For the rest of us, the rule is that you can claim a room (or rooms) in your home only if it's used regularly & exclusively for business. So if you cam in your bedroom & you also sleep there, you can't deduct it. If you have two bedrooms & use one for camming but also keep personal items in there, you're technically not supposed to claim it. However, I'd say that if you get audited you should just clean out the room. The deduction is a percentage (based on square footage) of your entire space + the same percentage of your utilities (electric, gas).
My husband uses the extra bedroom as an office, so we claim that. But I have my computer in the living room, and you can't claim a percentage of a room.
Tea4Me
02-23-2017, 10:12 AM
Thanks for the replies about my question. It just seems a bit like a double standard though with the day care comparison. Why is it the rest of us have to have areas of our home that are *exclusive* for our work and yet a day care provider can both live/work in the areas they get to claim? (rhetorical)
Tea4Me
02-23-2017, 10:39 AM
Question: Does your studio show up when you do a search for it under the Studios link/page on C4S? I just did a search for my studio name and it didn't come up. I also clicked on the first letter of my studio name and it wasn't listed that way either. I've been on there for 4 years now, I'd think that would be long enough to be listed...? Hmmm....time for a support ticket
justsometwat
02-23-2017, 10:41 AM
I think katy? Had this problem before as well. I know someone mentioned not being seen like that. Definitely need to let them know this is happening!
I'll check mine too, I hope that's why I'm not making any money this month, but I know that's not the reason :p
boyru
02-23-2017, 01:03 PM
adding different resolutions/formats for 1 unique clip = category spamming, if it was made with delay
new rules will coming soon, i think
boyru
02-24-2017, 08:35 AM
Frankly, your statements makes no sense from a business viewpoint and I will tell you why. I know that Russian porngraphy laws are bit unclear but you can make non-nude content. In addition, there are several Russian clip producers on C4S who do artistic nudes and they sell. Plus, where is this golden shower category on C4S? Most content sites do not have an golden shower category. MMF and Trans content can be made using non-nude tactics. :)
They want:
1) nude facesitting farting, forced pussy licking, peeing in my (i am slave) mouth
2) t-girl fucks me in mouth when domina girl facesits on t-girl
3) foot-job and penis crush
4) child looking toy crushed by feet or ass
5) chicken/rabbit/fish/.../ crushed under wheels of car with girl inside
6) outdoor public dirty shoes cleaning
7) cock-ball-torture (CBT) with absolutely nude male-slave
8/ young gay or lady-boy or crossdresser (18-20 y.o.) dominated by male and by domina girl
9) nude lezdom with forced pussy licking
10) one domina girl and 2 nude slaves, cock trampling, forced male-male oral sex
11) "incest looking" domination: mature female (50-60) on very young boy (looking younger than 20), very young girl (looking like teenager, preferably japan schoolgirl style) on mature male (55+).
12) videos like from closed candy-doll*tv site (girls 7-12, barefoot posing, feet/shoe play, gym action in tight panties)
13) crushing, trampling, peeing on our russian national flag (SHOCKED)
That all are absolutely prohibited in Russia.
They choose kink*com scenarios and ask me to film them.
They have fantastic ideas, but not for russian producers.
i post here their custom ideas for paysite (1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) and c4s (3,4,5,9,13).
They like t-girls from kink: Miche11e Firest0ne, K0rra Del Ri0, Au6rey Kate, Chane1 $antini, Che1sea Ma-rie, Ca$ey Ki$$es, Jen-na Rachel$. They ask me to find similar t-girls and film clips. They will pay $10/minute. But russian t-girls dont shoot in adult. Some nice t-girl will shoot in softcore for $2500/day.
What do U think?
P.S.
i have a lot of traffic from bookmarks
i was in top-5 on sites in 2004-2007: femd0mst0ry.org, f0rcedfemd0m.com, sadogir1.com
so i had a lot of kink*com related visitors during 3 years
lilly90xxx
02-24-2017, 12:20 PM
Ok boyru, your person is irritating me for a long time ( even that i am signed to this forum a couple of days, i was reading it when i wasn't a member), and i don't know if writing this will change something, but i still hope you will stop whining here. The thing is- your customers want this stuff because you are still holding to this one particular kind of fetish. And since your fetish is kinky they want some nude action, they want some torture etc.
As the girls said earlier c4s have TONS OF CATEGORIES. And a lot of categories where you don't need to record sex/nudity and all that stuff banned in Russia ( btw i don't understand why it's such a problem-a lot of girls from Russia sell this banned things here). There is for example foot fetish- i am sure u would find a nice girl willing to show her feet on your clip-and you don't need nudity for that. There is a smoke fetish, latex gloves fetish...and a lot more. Why don't you explore this fetishes ? Did you even once look thru this categories ? That's about c4s. And if you are talking about some of your private sites-not c4s stop it, as you can see this is a CLIPS4SALE THREAD.
boyru
02-24-2017, 12:27 PM
Ok boyru, your person is irritating me for a long time ( even that i am signed to this forum a couple of days, i was reading it when i wasn't a member), and i don't know if writing this will change something, but i still hope you will stop whining here. The thing is- your customers want this stuff because you are still holding to this one particular kind of fetish. And since your fetish is kinky they want some nude action, they want some torture etc.
As the girls said earlier c4s have TONS OF CATEGORIES. And a lot of categories where you don't need to record sex/nudity and all that stuff banned in Russia ( btw i don't understand why it's such a problem-a lot of girls from Russia sell this banned things here). There is for example foot fetish- i am sure u would find a nice girl willing to show her feet on your clip-and you don't need nudity for that. There is a smoke fetish, latex gloves fetish...and a lot more. Why don't you explore this fetishes ? Did you even once look thru this categories ? That's about c4s. And if you are talking about some of your private sites-not c4s stop it, as you can see this is a CLIPS4SALE THREAD.
Thanks for advices, but i work in 20+ niches for this time. Why did You assume that i follow only 1-2 categories?
SuperPookie
02-24-2017, 04:04 PM
The search feature isn't working in my store. Typing the exact name of my clip will only bring up one video even if I have multiple formats of the same clip but it does show every single clip with any single word contained in the title. And I mean every single word, and, I, you etc. In other words almost my entire clip store shows up.
Ok bitching out of the way lol.
For audio only clips: do you just put them all in the audio only section regardless of content and then use the other categories feature to sort them? How do you add a picture for that? I tried uploading one but it said .jpg wasn't a accepted file.
One more question (sorry I know I'm a pain ) when recording clips what do you recommend for frames per second? The default option on my editing software is 29.
something or other but I have options that go past 50. I'm filming the clips with a Logitech 920 if that matters.
OT but hang in there Boyru. It will get better.
boyru
02-24-2017, 04:22 PM
OT but hang in there Boyru. It will get better.
что это значит?
what does it mean?
Tea4Me
02-24-2017, 04:46 PM
The search feature isn't working in my store. Typing the exact name of my clip will only bring up one video even if I have multiple formats of the same clip but it does show every single clip with any single word contained in the title. And I mean every single word, and, I, you etc. In other words almost my entire clip store shows up.
Ok bitching out of the way lol.
For audio only clips: do you just put them all in the audio only section regardless of content and then use the other categories feature to sort them? How do you add a picture for that? I tried uploading one but it said .jpg wasn't a accepted file.
One more question (sorry I know I'm a pain ) when recording clips what do you recommend for frames per second? The default option on my editing software is 29.
something or other but I have options that go past 50. I'm filming the clips with a Logitech 920 if that matters.
OT but hang in there Boyru. It will get better.
The search function leaves much to be desired. :-(
Are you sure you were adding the image to the Clip Images and not Videos/Clips on accident? I just uploaded a .jpeg last night with no problems.
I don't know how many fps the Logitech 920 records in, but you'll want to stick with that. Find the file on your computer and (I'm assuming you are a Windows user....), right mouse click on it and select Properties. When that window comes up, click on the Details tab and next to Frame rate is how many frames per second your webcam file records your video as. You'll want to make sure that setting is the same in your editing software.
SuperPookie
02-24-2017, 04:54 PM
что это значит?
what does it mean?
It just means don't be depressed as I'm sure things will get better:).
OT means off topic because what I said to you was entirely unrelated to the rest of my post.
Thank you Tea4Me. I was hoping that by increasing the fbs I could make a clearer,higher quality clip but I guess that's not the case.
dave101
02-24-2017, 09:31 PM
Gaining weight and belly fetish!
Yes this!! I love this.
Classy_Katy
02-25-2017, 12:33 AM
For audio only clips: do you just put them all in the audio only section regardless of content and then use the other categories feature to sort them? How do you add a picture for that? I tried uploading one but it said .jpg wasn't a accepted file.
I only put them in the audio only category but I have seen people put them in the fetish category but I'm concerned they will think it's a video despite have an image saying it's audio only etc. Plus it would have to be a different format or size, I do MP3 but I suppose it could be made as a WAV to put it somewhere else.
lucymariexxxx
02-25-2017, 05:21 AM
@SuperPookie
For me personally I found audio clips to sell the best when put into the relative categories.
I have done audio clips for TABOO, MILF and MESMERIZE. I just used to make a snap shot in movie maker from an old clip and upload that to show my face or something relative to the story. I would also make sure audio was in the clip title so there was no confusion. I recorded on my iphone and changed it into an MP3 on a free file changing app to upload to clips4sale.
boyru
02-25-2017, 08:26 AM
Who can help me in situation with activating new clips?
justsometwat
02-25-2017, 08:31 AM
Clips4sale support.
boyru
02-25-2017, 08:45 AM
no they can not
how much clips can U activate every day?
if U have 5 new clips (1 format compilation for 1 file) - are U able to activate them with 2-3hrs delay?
justsometwat
02-25-2017, 08:52 AM
If support can't help you with their own site why do you think we would?
boyru
02-25-2017, 09:01 AM
because U (or Tea4Me, or another Lady) said that U have posted more than 3 clips per day
DonaDiabla
02-25-2017, 09:24 AM
What does this have to do with your clips getting activate?/:O
because U (or Tea4Me, or another Lady) said that U have posted more than 3 clips per day
Tea4Me
02-25-2017, 10:12 AM
because U (or Tea4Me, or another Lady) said that U have posted more than 3 clips per day
Wasn't me. And when are you going to catch a hint....no one wants you here. you contribute nothing. If we could vote you off the island, we would!
Classy_Katy
02-25-2017, 10:22 AM
@SuperPookie
For me personally I found audio clips to sell the best when put into the relative categories.
I have done audio clips for TABOO, MILF and MESMERIZE. I just used to make a snap shot in movie maker from an old clip and upload that to show my face or something relative to the story. I would also make sure audio was in the clip title so there was no confusion. I recorded on my iphone and changed it into an MP3 on a free file changing app to upload to clips4sale.
I use audacity to record and hadn't thought of using my iphone. Some of my audios are also in clip form. I'm tempted to convert them all to WAV now and reupload them into the fetish categories.
boyru
02-25-2017, 10:26 AM
Wasn't me. And when are you going to catch a hint....no one wants you here. you contribute nothing. If we could vote you off the island, we would!
u dont have such privilegies
dont be aggressive
SuperPookie
02-25-2017, 12:02 PM
Wasn't me. And when are you going to catch a hint....no one wants you here. you contribute nothing. If we could vote you off the island, we would!
Find a happy place ladies :) lol hugs for everyone!