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boyru
03-04-2017, 06:52 AM
i have asked 5 persons.
they work in writeng/describing industry.
they will charge $5 every unique description (max. 400 characters in text).
no discounts, no 100% of unique in one niche (trampling, as example).
should i sell my car to pay for nothing?
i dont think anyone read long descriptions - it is so terrible.
best preview - animated GIF and nothing else!
PixiieGirl
03-04-2017, 07:02 AM
i have asked 5 persons.
they work in writeng/describing industry.
they will charge $5 every unique description (max. 400 characters in text).
no discounts, no 100% of unique in one niche (trampling, as example).
should i sell my car to pay for nothing?
i dont think anyone read long descriptions - it is so terrible.
best preview - animated GIF and nothing else!
can you not just write a template then change little things - like the actresses names or hair colour?
lucymariexxxx
03-04-2017, 07:03 AM
I did try emailing every customer once but no one actually replied :/ I've decided to focus on one main fetish and two sub fetishes so I might change my store up to fit that more
I must say that was the only time I got any replies when I asked them questions and I couldn't believe it!
boyru
03-04-2017, 07:06 AM
can you not just write a template then change little things - like the actresses names or hair colour?
and i will be banned)))
they ask me to make 1200 absolutely unique descriptions or remove clips without unique (long, full and true) descriptions
i have asked all from support team - and they said "you have to have unique good description for each unique clip"
no role-play fantasy, no lie in descriptions - only truth and advanced explanation of action
i assume, that they are going to get more google traffic, but why we must pay for their SEO?
PixiieGirl
03-04-2017, 07:10 AM
and i will be banned)))
they ask me to make 1200 absolutely unique descriptions or remove clips without unique (long, full and true) descriptions
i have asked all from support team - and they said "you have to have unique good description for each unique clip"
no role-play fantasy, no lie in descriptions - only truth and advanced explanation of action
i assume, that they are going to get more google traffic, but why we must pay for their SEO?
thats really odd for the clips that I upload in SD and HD I have the same description (to make it obvious it's the same clip) and it's not been flagged up?
boyru
03-04-2017, 07:19 AM
thats really odd for the clips that I upload in SD and HD I have the same description (to make it obvious it's the same clip) and it's not been flagged up?
i have been suspened for week, because i post SD and HD.
i have removed all secondary compilations and they re-opened me.
i am not going to sit 1000+ hours near LCD and write descriptions.
lucymariexxxx
03-04-2017, 07:22 AM
thats really odd for the clips that I upload in SD and HD I have the same description (to make it obvious it's the same clip) and it's not been flagged up?
I think there is some confusion here.
There is a different description needed for each unique clip that is correct. However 1 unique clip can be uploaded in 2 different file sizes.
I honestly do not know what Boyru is going on about, but there again I never do???
boyru
03-04-2017, 07:28 AM
I think there is some confusion here.
There is a different description needed for each unique clip that is correct. However 1 unique clip can be uploaded in 2 different file sizes.
I honestly do not know what Boyru is going on about, but there again I never do???
i upload only 1 compilation - SD or HD
they ask me to describe 150 "sneakers trampling clips" featuring 19 different Girls wearing 12 different shoes.
is it possible? who can write 150 unique descriptions for the similar trampling clips?
PixiieGirl
03-04-2017, 07:30 AM
i upload only 1 compilation - SD or HD
they ask me to describe 150 "sneakers trampling clips" featuring 19 different Girls wearing 12 different shoes.
is it possible? who can write 150 unique descriptions for the similar trampling clips?
your allowed to upload in SD and HD - 2 versions of the same clip
write yourself out a template that fits the trampling clips - if they're similar enough then they'll be accurate, and change the description of the girl and the shoes for each clip
lucymariexxxx
03-04-2017, 07:36 AM
your allowed to upload in SD and HD - 2 versions of the same clip
write yourself out a template that fits the trampling clips - if they're similar enough then they'll be accurate, and change the description of the girl and the shoes for each clip
There you go Boyru! that is a perfect explanation. The customer needs an explanation to understand what he is buying, even if it is only giving a short description and the girls name
boyru
03-04-2017, 07:50 AM
There you go Boyru! that is a perfect explanation. The customer needs an explanation to understand what he is buying, even if it is only giving a short description and the girls name
they (c4s) want i write extended descriptions, 4-5 sentenses.
customer doesn need text, because He can view animated GIF (concatenation of 8 fragments cropped from clip)
animated GIF shows full clip contents.
no descriptions -> no google indexing => low price and good sales
good description -> full google indexing => higher price (minutes + 30% + 0.99) without sales
10 minutes clip: today 10.99-12.99, tomorrow 13.99-16.99
customers will overpay 30% for good descriptions - not a good idea.
PixiieGirl
03-04-2017, 07:52 AM
they (c4s) want i write extended descriptions, 4-5 sentenses.
customer doesn need text, because He can view animated GIF (concatenation of 8 fragments cropped from clip)
animated GIF shows full clip contents.
no descriptions -> no google indexing => low price and good sales
good description -> full google indexing => higher price (minutes + 30% + 0.99) without sales
10 minutes clip: today 10.99-12.99, tomorrow 13.99-16.99
customers will overpay 30% for good descriptions - not a good idea.
4-5 sentences is totally doable from a template - write out a generic template then edit it slightly for each clip, ultimately if C4S want descriptions they want descriptions - we factor in the time spent doing that when we decide to work on clip sites
Classy_Katy
03-04-2017, 08:06 AM
It's 2 different formats you can upload in - they prefer WMV and MP4 but you can also upload in different sizes in those two formats and that isn't restricted, although they don't want spamming.
boyru
03-04-2017, 08:10 AM
It's 2 different formats you can upload in - they prefer WMV and MP4 but you can also upload in different sizes in those two formats and that isn't restricted, although they don't want spamming.
my store was closed during 14 days in Feb and during 27 days in Jan
reasons: no descriptions, HD+SD compilations, not unique clip titles
they are giving me last warning and ban with next customer complaint (no description, for example)
boyru
03-04-2017, 08:42 AM
my store was closed again, because i post banner (withou link - only jpg pic) from 3rd party URL :)
only JPG banner - i dont have outgoing links and mails and other shit
LOL
justsometwat
03-04-2017, 09:09 AM
Any one else hate that they changed the auto upload for videos after you select it in the file browser? I keep forgetting because I upload several videos simultaneously. I go to the C4S tab and it's not uploading until I push the start upload button.
Also you know there's issues with C4S and the sales since I made a bunch of sales on IWC and KB last night that usually buy on C4S. :( I've made more on KB so far this month than on C4S again.
PixiieGirl
03-04-2017, 09:55 AM
Any one else hate that they changed the auto upload for videos after you select it in the file browser? I keep forgetting because I upload several videos simultaneously. I go to the C4S tab and it's not uploading until I push the start upload button.
Also you know there's issues with C4S and the sales since I made a bunch of sales on IWC and KB last night that usually buy on C4S. :( I've made more on KB so far this month than on C4S again.
I might look into KB tbh, I'm not giving up or out it's just so unmotivating getting no sales for 8 days in a row :/
justsometwat
03-04-2017, 10:03 AM
KB is apparently really dead. I've seen a lot of people saying they get almost no sales there. Last month I think I made $140 or less. I can't remember. I think I sold 11 videos.
lilly90xxx
03-04-2017, 10:07 AM
my store was closed during 14 days in Feb and during 27 days in Jan
reasons: no descriptions, HD+SD compilations, not unique clip titles
they are giving me last warning and ban with next customer complaint (no description, for example)
Ok boyru...i don't get what you don't understand...but i will try explain to you what c4s support wants from you and what are the rules when uploading clips.
1. You can upload even 4 different formats of one clip ( for example i am doing mp4,avi,wmv,mov). For this 4 different formats the description can be the same (and even should be since it's the same clip), only the title should be changed for example if you have one clip in 4 formats, an the original title is " Blonde girl trample" for the next format it should be "Blonde girl trample avi" (this is an example you can also call it "Blonde girl 2" or something like that)
2. The clients need descriptions- stop making this a huge problem. You don't need excellent engish for that. And no even for 1000 of clips in the same category that is no problem to make a new description. If u have a lot of clips with the same script, and only the models are changing u can make a lot with that. You can write about what this new girl is wearing, you can write about her features, her body, her hair, you can always add something new. And some clients like to read descriptions even that they can see all on gif. And also why you write somewhere that if you give the description customer should pay more ? And still don't get it, why making descriptions it so hard for you ? It takes really a moment.
3. I think the reason why your store was closed is because you are a pain in the ass. You are wining, over and over again, the girls are trying to help you and nothing is coming to your head. I think the support was trying to help you also, but you just not taking advices.
Classy_Katy
03-04-2017, 10:33 AM
These are the original 2 notices. It is two formats but you can upload different sizes for both those formats.
In an effort to help our producers when uploading content, please note the most popular and preferred file formats by customers are: MP4 and WMV
The maximum allowed is TWO (2) FORMATS per Unique Clip.
WARNING: Do not spam updates by adding miscellaneous clip formats. Studios that abuse clip updates to be re-listed in the “Recently Updated” lists will have their clips deleted from the servers without notice.
CLARIFICATION
To clarify yesterday's broadcast message regarding clip formats, please note that the message was seen by ALL producers, it was not directed at any individual studios. Broadcast messages are sent to ALL open studios on the Clips4Sale network of sites.
Our intension was not to force any studio owner to use only MP4 or WMV. Our recommendation is to try to only use two (2) formats per unique clip. However, you can do HD and SD versions of each format which would equal four (4) clips, if you feel the need to offer more options. Or if you shoot in MOV, you could do MOV and MP4, in both HD and SD as described above.
What we are trying to avoid are duplicate clips added in obsolete formats for the sole purpose of spamming the main and category list pages.
We are trying to explain the importance of correctly uploading formats which are not only relevant to current technology, but also directed toward the changes we are making behind the scenes at Clips4Sale which will enable customers to get clear and correct results from their searches. Our ultimate goal is to increase your visibility as a studio when a customer searches for the content you produce and allow the customer to get the best results when they visit Clips4Sale.
PLEASE NOTE: You do not need to delete anything currently in your studio. It is not retro-active this is just a recommendation as we move forward.
We know that some studios have been using multiple versions to increase their time on the recently updated lists, we have noticed others do it because they are trying to stretch out their content, and some studios also do multiple formats of the same clip believing that our search tools only use the main CLIP CATEGORY and disregard the RELATED CATEGORIES - which is incorrect.
CURRENT SEARCH ENGINE
When customers use our KEYWORD search the following attributes are what is searched the CLIP TITLE, DESCRIPTION, CLIP CATEGORY, RELATED CATEGORIES and KEYWORDS. We have already introduced the expanded search features which now enables the customers to find ANY keyword or related categories currently selected by a producer when initially adding a clip.
Nina Reid
03-04-2017, 12:33 PM
Justsometwat, Classy_Katy, Tea4Me thank you for replaying. I am gonna take a break for two, maybe three more days. I think by then I should get things up again or will never do it. BTW it is a 3 month mark for me. How time flies...
boyru
03-04-2017, 12:47 PM
Ok boyru...i don't get what you don't understand...but i will try explain to you what c4s support wants from you and what are the rules when uploading clips.
1. You can upload even 4 different formats of one clip ( for example i am doing mp4,avi,wmv,mov). For this 4 different formats the description can be the same (and even should be since it's the same clip), only the title should be changed for example if you have one clip in 4 formats, an the original title is " Blonde girl trample" for the next format it should be "Blonde girl trample avi" (this is an example you can also call it "Blonde girl 2" or something like that)
2. The clients need descriptions- stop making this a huge problem. You don't need excellent engish for that. And no even for 1000 of clips in the same category that is no problem to make a new description. If u have a lot of clips with the same script, and only the models are changing u can make a lot with that. You can write about what this new girl is wearing, you can write about her features, her body, her hair, you can always add something new. And some clients like to read descriptions even that they can see all on gif. And also why you write somewhere that if you give the description customer should pay more ? And still don't get it, why making descriptions it so hard for you ? It takes really a moment.
3. I think the reason why your store was closed is because you are a pain in the ass. You are wining, over and over again, the girls are trying to help you and nothing is coming to your head. I think the support was trying to help you also, but you just not taking advices.
i am under personal control of super-administration after hundreds complaints from 1 user - 2 compilations for 1 clip, same description for all femdom clips, posting compilations with 5..6 hrs delay.
i cannot post our mails here (my and owner_c4s), but i am restricted in 1 clip per 1 day, only brand new, only 1 HD version, only with fine description.
Tea4Me
03-04-2017, 08:58 PM
Anyone else's traffic really low today? Maybe it's just me....
MissJu
03-04-2017, 09:11 PM
Not that I'm not motivated....but where are the buyers?I had 3 sales today for really the cheapest clips. Maybe because frb is a short month?Very interesting.
justsometwat
03-04-2017, 09:31 PM
Strangely I had about 200 more hits than usual and made $35 today, which doubled my monthly earnings so far. That's not anything ton write home about though so I'm not impressed at all. :/
PixiieGirl
03-05-2017, 10:43 AM
I've managed to get myself 2 weeks ahead in terms of uploading, I'm hoping by this time next week I'll have all of March uploaded and my plan for April started
I love lists, schedules and organisation lmao
lucymariexxxx
03-05-2017, 12:03 PM
I've managed to get myself 2 weeks ahead in terms of uploading, I'm hoping by this time next week I'll have all of March uploaded and my plan for April started
I love lists, schedules and organisation lmao
Me too! : ) that is great work! I wish I was ahead too....got tons to do. Sales have picked up a bit in the last day which is something to be positive about however!
PixiieGirl
03-05-2017, 02:18 PM
Me too! : ) that is great work! I wish I was ahead too....got tons to do. Sales have picked up a bit in the last day which is something to be positive about however!
thanks :) and well done for the sales!! mine havent yet lol cry
Anyone else's traffic really low today? Maybe it's just me....
My traffic has been fine, 3rd - 567 / 4th - 754 / 5th - 522
Although I am having issues with new videos, when clicking on my studio from top studios & recently updated in the relevant category it's not showing my newest update. If you go onto my studio the new update is showing but when you select a category within my studio, it's not showing again. I've spoken to Mary just and apparently a few studios are having the same issues and the programmers are looking into it. Just a heads up :)
My traffic has been fine, 3rd - 567 / 4th - 754 / 5th - 522
Although I am having issues with new videos, when clicking on my studio from top studios & recently updated in the relevant category it's not showing my newest update. If you go onto my studio the new update is showing but when you select a category within my studio, it's not showing again. I've spoken to Mary just and apparently a few studios are having the same issues and the programmers are looking into it. Just a heads up :)
Yeah all studios are having this problem.
boyru
03-06-2017, 11:30 AM
My studio was broke since 01st - searching doesnt work, customers enter and leave my store. They can not filter content.
EllieGold
03-06-2017, 11:41 AM
oh this month is pitiful... back to camming it is to fill the void. $0-5 days.
PixiieGirl
03-06-2017, 12:42 PM
oh this month is pitiful... back to camming it is to fill the void. $0-5 days.
I finally had my first sales of the month today lmao
also had to jump onto cam today v.v
boyru
03-06-2017, 03:17 PM
not working store - no sales
this my opinion
i need to forward customers manually to clips, directly, before programmers repair my store (( i am sad
lucymariexxxx
03-07-2017, 01:52 AM
I finally had my first sales of the month today lmao
also had to jump onto cam today v.v
Congrats!! it always feels good when things start moving! : )
lucymariexxxx
03-07-2017, 01:53 AM
not working store - no sales
this my opinion
i need to forward customers manually to clips, directly, before programmers repair my store (( i am sad
Perhaps this is a blessing is disguise...maybe this job is not for you
PixiieGirl
03-07-2017, 04:17 AM
Congrats!! it always feels good when things start moving! : )
definitely, time to get filming some more today ~ haha
boyru
03-07-2017, 08:43 AM
Perhaps this is a blessing is disguise...maybe this job is not for you
they broke my store - switch off indexing service
i can not repair and they can not too...
JamaicanAliesha
03-07-2017, 07:54 PM
So I am a new store and I think C4S is telling me I cannot have custom watermarks on my videos for 30 days?? Why?? I understand the no linking to outside sources (sadly even social media) so I took it down.
But I am a bit irritated cause now I have to reup all my vids w/o a watermark.
Cam_Model_Jess
03-07-2017, 08:20 PM
Can you post the email from them that says that? It doesn't make sense.
JamaicanAliesha
03-07-2017, 08:31 PM
"For the first 30 days (once credit card processing has been approved) new stores can not link out in any way from their studios (banners, text links, e-mail addresses, links/account names for social media, graphics or images with a URL on them including the clip watermark and background graphic).
CLIP WATERMARKS - We understand your desire to watermark your clips to protect your copyright, however during the first 30 days the only watermark allowed would be your Clips4Sale Store URL or Custom URL (which can be provided to you by support if you can not locate it). After 30 days you can add your own custom watermark to your clips - as long as - you have a reciprocal link back from whatever URL you are listing in the watermark. You can also simply watermark your clips with your store title as well.
Please remove any and all banners, outgoing links and email links from your clip store and then let us know and we will review your store again for credit card approval.
After 30 days you may re-add this information to your studio as long as you have a link back from your website to your clip store.
Thank you for your understanding and compliance with the rules.
C4S Support
We hope this response has sufficiently answered your questions. If not, please do not send another email. Instead, reply to this email."
JamaicanAliesha
03-07-2017, 08:48 PM
I'm editing and reuploading the clips. *pouts*
justsometwat
03-07-2017, 08:50 PM
That's a stupid rule. It makes sense not to have website links for watermarks but if it's just your model name then I don't see why that matters as long as it matches the store name.
JamaicanAliesha
03-07-2017, 09:44 PM
That's a stupid rule. It makes sense not to have website links for watermarks but if it's just your model name then I don't see why that matters as long as it matches the store name.
Yeah but I guess I will just wait the 30 days to put my custom watermark. :( it was such a nice logo too.
kevinvvip6969
03-08-2017, 06:33 AM
Hey guys, i have a question.. i just signed up for a member site on c4s but i cant watch any of the videos on members area.. i always get this error 201 Unable to load stream.. fyi im using VPN cause my gov blocked this site.. is there any solution, or are there similar cases like mine, if there are can u guys please help me.. cause i just joined c4s for the first time.. thanks in advance. .
JamaicanAliesha
03-08-2017, 08:38 AM
I fell asleep before I could upload the videos and they approved my account, yay!
Cam_Model_Jess
03-08-2017, 08:54 AM
CLIP WATERMARKS - We understand your desire to watermark your clips to protect your copyright, however during the first 30 days the only watermark allowed would be your Clips4Sale Store URL or Custom URL (which can be provided to you by support if you can not locate it). After 30 days you can add your own custom watermark to your clips - as long as - you have a reciprocal link back from whatever URL you are listing in the watermark. You can also simply watermark your clips with your store title as well.
Please remove any and all banners, outgoing links and email links from your clip store and then let us know and we will review your store again for credit card approval.
After 30 days you may re-add this information to your studio as long as you have a link back from your website to your clip store.
Ok, that's easy. They're just saying you can't have your website URL or Twitter handle. My watermark is just my name, so they would be fine with that. What watermark did you use that you feel you need to re-up every vid? You probably shouldn't be using a URL in your watermark anyway because you might lose it one day. Your twitter could be closed or your website shut down or bought by someone if you forget to pay.
Cam_Model_Jess
03-08-2017, 08:55 AM
Hey guys, i have a question.. i just signed up for a member site on c4s but i cant watch any of the videos on members area.. i always get this error 201 Unable to load stream.. fyi im using VPN cause my gov blocked this site.. is there any solution, or are there similar cases like mine, if there are can u guys please help me.. cause i just joined c4s for the first time.. thanks in advance. .
Contact support.
Cam_Model_Jess
03-08-2017, 08:55 AM
Yeah but I guess I will just wait the 30 days to put my custom watermark. :( it was such a nice logo too. You might not need to. If it's really a logo, it won't have a url in it.
boyru
03-08-2017, 12:42 PM
FTP uploading is incredible, fastest never-seen-before.
Up to 2.4Mbytes/s per 1 file (6 files in queue). Fantastic!