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Classy_Katy
03-22-2017, 11:18 PM
I did really well in glove fetish when I first started...I just had a look at my best clips sales and it's the gloved handjobs that sold best. I made those in leather and rubber gloves, with licking the cum off them (for some reason they liked my pink rubber gloves best for that, you can get green bathroom Marigolds too) - they can go into the handjob category too, which is very popular. I made those as POV with the camera above my partner's head and looking down his body, and also from the side. You can make those with a domination theme or any other scenario you can think of. I mentioned belly fetish being related to BBW, there is also bellybutton fetish...you could involve your partner in those clips too. A lot of my best selling clips involve my partner but he's no stud.

Classy_Katy
03-23-2017, 12:09 AM
Their support can be so bad at times! They said I should clear my cache because the images are fine on their end. No...they were just seeing the clips I re added! Luckily they did get treated like new clips.



That's good. Just a thought...when you add your own gif when uploading a clip for the first time, do you click on the "start upload" button after clicking on the "+add files button"? And does the the drop down field change from "generate an animated gif banner" to the file name of your custom made gif? It's basic but thought I better ask as this is so strange.

KittyLovelicks
03-23-2017, 12:16 AM
That's good. Just a thought...when you add your own gif when uploading a clip for the first time, do you click on the "start upload" button after clicking on the "+add files button"? And does the the drop down field change from "generate an animated gif banner" to the file name of your custom made gif? It's basic but thought I better ask as this is so strange.
I ususlly do it that way yes. These clips I most likely didnt have my own gif ready when I uploaded them. I came back at a later date and added my own. But it takes the image from the first thing you upload or generate regardless if what changes you make after. And the rollover thing did not work.

Classy_Katy
03-23-2017, 12:51 AM
I ususlly do it that way yes. These clips I most likely didnt have my own gif ready when I uploaded them. I came back at a later date and added my own. But it takes the image from the first thing you upload or generate regardless if what changes you make after. And the rollover thing did not work.

Yes, you need to upload your own gif when you upload the clip the first time. I use still images made into a gif, and sometimes I will want a different image to show in the different categories I am putting the versions of that clip into. So I will make my gif but upload the chosen still image for that category on it's own with the clip, then once I see the clip appear in the category, I upload the gif.

I hope my other post above was helpful about clip ideas...I can't make clips as often with my partner now but having a guy on hand is really useful!

PixiieGirl
03-23-2017, 03:35 AM
Totally agree, I am on wwga and about to get my own forum section. My glove vids are selling, so that's something! I do a lot of reading and a lot of talking to guys. I am slowly experimenting with new fetishes and gaining confidence. I just ordered some leather gloves and have been gifted some rubber gloves to make more clips. Once they arrive I will spend a month focusing on glove fetish. For now, I'm looking at more specific BBW categories as suggested. I am intrigued by feeder fetish, but I'm not willing to put on weight.
I did just do a growth clip trying on my clothes that dont fit and talking about my big belly. Worth a shot right?!
Thanks girls! i did sell 2 clips yesterday.
it sounds like your going about it the right way so keep going! :) you've totally got this :D my income personally have doubled this month and I think thats cause I found a fetish that I enjoyed and was good at, and focused on it - best of luck xx

JohnnyLottaBrain
03-23-2017, 05:33 AM
Congrats on your N2 placement.

Why Thank You!(#3 now)

JohnnyLottaBrain
03-23-2017, 05:41 AM
That's good. Just a thought...when you add your own gif when uploading a clip for the first time, do you click on the "start upload" button after clicking on the "+add files button"? And does the the drop down field change from "generate an animated gif banner" to the file name of your custom made gif? It's basic but thought I better ask as this is so strange.

Yes, you are correct. Please note that if you ever accidentally forget to upload your custom made gif, and use the automated one...when you go back to fix it, the image of the automated gif will remain(the first frame), but will display your custom made gif. I've fucked up plenty of clips like this and had to go back and reupload :(

Classy_Katy
03-23-2017, 08:23 AM
Yes, you are correct. Please note that if you ever accidentally forget to upload your custom made gif, and use the automated one...when you go back to fix it, the image of the automated gif will remain(the first frame), but will display your custom made gif. I've fucked up plenty of clips like this and had to go back and reupload :(

That's when you need to use the roll over pic maker from the clip list but it's not very accurate.

SophiaSylvan
03-23-2017, 09:21 AM
Totally agree, I am on wwga and about to get my own forum section. My glove vids are selling, so that's something! I do a lot of reading and a lot of talking to guys. I am slowly experimenting with new fetishes and gaining confidence. I just ordered some leather gloves and have been gifted some rubber gloves to make more clips. Once they arrive I will spend a month focusing on glove fetish. For now, I'm looking at more specific BBW categories as suggested. I am intrigued by feeder fetish, but I'm not willing to put on weight.
I did just do a growth clip trying on my clothes that dont fit and talking about my big belly. Worth a shot right?!
Thanks girls! i did sell 2 clips yesterday.

You can do the feeder fetish without gaining weight. I mean if you're planning an indulgence and not trying to lose weight just film it. Or roleplay it. You can also do feeder fetish as the domme, POV or with a partner if they're willing. Also you can double that category with facestuffing or overeating which is popular. Just eating an ordinary large meal is often enough to please those guys. They like to watch a BBW eat.

SophiaSylvan
03-23-2017, 09:37 AM
Is c4s down for anyone else? My stores and the main page, down for like 20 min +. I can get in admin though.

MistressX
03-23-2017, 01:00 PM
I was uploading a bunch of clips last night using the new uploader and I'm not sure how far they got. The tab accidentally got closed and now a bunch of the clips all say 140mb. I am sure those ones didnt get fully uploaded. But I dont know how to delete them off the server?

SophiaSylvan
03-23-2017, 05:11 PM
You should just overwrite them, upload them again.

MistressX
03-23-2017, 09:10 PM
I tried and the same thing happened. Errors.. And now theres 2 versions of every clip... it didnt over write at all. How do I delete them off the server?

boyru
03-24-2017, 01:21 PM
admin.c4s.... doesnt work ... sad

MistressX
03-24-2017, 01:44 PM
Yup its not working for me now either. Maybe thats why I was having trouble uploading my files.

AlyssaJ
03-24-2017, 01:52 PM
Yeah, been trying to log in for hours now. Looks like no update today :(

Natalie0523
03-24-2017, 02:07 PM
I contacted support. They stated the server is down. The programmers are working on it and should be fixed shortly. I hope =/

Classy_Katy
03-24-2017, 02:27 PM
Wow...Friday night and the site is down!

SuperPookie
03-24-2017, 02:27 PM
I can't log in either

Natalie0523
03-24-2017, 02:42 PM
Wow...Friday night and the site is down!

Yeah I know right! I hope they fix it soon.

Is anyone getting sales? My last sale was at 12:20 pm EST today, Friday. And late last night I uploaded two brand new clips. One sold a couple times over night and I was expecting it to sell some more. But I haven't gotten sales since noon so I'm assuming it's because of the server issue.

Tea4Me
03-24-2017, 02:52 PM
Yeah I know right! I hope they fix it soon.

Is anyone getting sales? My last sale was at 12:20 pm EST today, Friday. And late last night I uploaded two brand new clips. One sold a couple times over night and I was expecting it to sell some more. But I haven't gotten sales since noon so I'm assuming it's because of the server issue.

That's what I just came here to say! lol Sales have been non-existent today, which is strange. I'm going to chalk it up to the server problems and hope to see more clip orders once it's resolved.

SophiaSylvan
03-24-2017, 03:39 PM
WTF and I am going out of town and wanted to advance update. FML.

SFHS
03-24-2017, 04:15 PM
It's back up.

MistressX
03-24-2017, 04:31 PM
The person I talked to said they are moving servers and suggested I dont upload any content for the next few weeks while they get everything settled. Odd advice to give a studio..

AlyssaJ
03-24-2017, 04:38 PM
The person I talked to said they are moving servers and suggested I dont upload any content for the next few weeks while they get everything settled. Odd advice to give a studio..

WTF? If so, they should make that info public. Of course we keep uploading. I missed a few updates recently and I dropped in the top lists in my categories very fast. But seems to be working now.

AlyssaJ
03-24-2017, 04:40 PM
That's what I just came here to say! lol Sales have been non-existent today, which is strange. I'm going to chalk it up to the server problems and hope to see more clip orders once it's resolved.

Same here. I updated yesterday and the day before yesterday with very good looking clips in my best categories and also started suspecting something was wrong when I didn't have any sales. Now that I am able to log in I can see I topped my traffic record too for yesterday.

MissJu
03-24-2017, 04:57 PM
C4s sometimes get me like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdEQmpVIE4A

Natalie0523
03-24-2017, 05:00 PM
Okay I had a few sales come in and I'm able to log in to my admin. But what's that advice about not uploading for a few weeks!? I'm going to keep uploading though and hopefully all goes well.

MistressX
03-24-2017, 05:35 PM
I really dont know. Thats just what the person said who I was talking to. I think she was confused honestly. I asked because I had uploaded my videos like 3 times and every time it fucked up and didnt fully upload. So I was asking her how I could delete the files because I was worried they would be messed up from trying to upload so many times. So I asked how I could delete because I just wanted to start fresh and she said just dont upload anything for a few weeks until they get the new servers and stuff settled and that deleting files off the servers would be disabled until then. I have no idea.. she just said dont upload anything for a few weeks. I dont know if that means everyone (because that would be really dumb) or just me because of my situation with the partial files. Her first language was clearly not english so there was a little bit of difficulty in that respect..

NervousBeaver
03-24-2017, 05:52 PM
A customer bought the exact same clip 3 times this afternoon. There was probably a problem on the customers side as well. I also never got emails for these sales.

Sinna (2pee4you)
03-24-2017, 06:29 PM
Keep calm or die trying. I was caught in this as well since I wanted to schedule a few clips. It's no use being sad about lost sales. Yes it sucks. I went out and just got back. Business continues, we have got to make the best of it. I think it's a sign of imminent huge changes to the admin

Cam_Model_Jess
03-24-2017, 07:19 PM
I really dont know. Thats just what the person said who I was talking to. I think she was confused honestly. I asked because I had uploaded my videos like 3 times and every time it fucked up and didnt fully upload. So I was asking her how I could delete the files because I was worried they would be messed up from trying to upload so many times. So I asked how I could delete because I just wanted to start fresh and she said just dont upload anything for a few weeks until they get the new servers and stuff settled and that deleting files off the servers would be disabled until then. I have no idea.. she just said dont upload anything for a few weeks. I dont know if that means everyone (because that would be really dumb) or just me because of my situation with the partial files. Her first language was clearly not english so there was a little bit of difficulty in that respect..

They've been moving servers for like a year now. You can't delete clips right now. You have to re-render the video & upload via FTP to re-list. That's the "cleanest" way to do it & on the plus side, it's a new update.

Cam_Model_Jess
03-24-2017, 07:21 PM
A customer bought the exact same clip 3 times this afternoon. There was probably a problem on the customers side as well. I also never got emails for these sales.

I had a huge order go through 7 times. I didn't get a single order email all day. Once the admin went back up all the emails from the whole day came through but I never got the email from the duplicate order (not even once). Gonna be a huge refund.

justsometwat
03-24-2017, 07:28 PM
I had one sale at 1030 this morning for $6.59 my cut and that's all I've gotten. :(

Tea4Me
03-24-2017, 08:12 PM
I had one sale at 1030 this morning for $6.59 my cut and that's all I've gotten. :(

More than me, it was a zero sales day for me and my traffic was wayyyyy down. The last zero sales day I had was Oct 23rd last year.

The thing that peeves me though is that fact they never tell us anything. They are making all of these changes, but do they have a estimated date of when they will be complete? I mean, it sure would be nice if they could post a little message in the admin acknowledging and possibly apologizing for the inconvenience AND maybe give us a heads up of what they are working towards (and how it will benefit US as clip producers). But nothing.... :P

justsometwat
03-24-2017, 08:27 PM
So far this month I have had 3 days with no sales and 5 days with only 1 sale that day.
So far this year I have had 7 days with no sales and 12 days with a single sale that day.
It gets really depressing because I keep a detail spreadsheet of each of my site with all of the customer's important info, what video(s) they bought on what day, and how much each video cost and what my cut was. Some days I have nothing there at all and it looks like I make absolutely nothing.

This happens a lot on Kinkbomb...I've had 11 days this month with 0 sales.

I was talking with my husband and it's looking like I am going to need to buy a car and start looking for a job :(

SFHS
03-24-2017, 09:31 PM
Check to see if the clips you uploaded in the past 24 hours are showing up in your store. I put up two clips (one about 4 hours ago and one within the last half hour) and neither are listed in my store. It's ridiculous how awful it's been the last day on the site. If they're having problems they should let us know NOT to upload content until everything is working correctly.

Classy_Katy
03-25-2017, 12:09 AM
On the monthly traffic/sales graph 24 March doesn't exist! Hits were down for me yesterday and just one sale, in the afternoon. 24 March has appeared now after running a report for that day.

justsometwat
03-25-2017, 07:28 AM
My videos are showing in my store, but no one is buying them. Even my regular seems to have disappeared. He buys all of my videos as they come out. I haven't been on social media the last few days to see what's happening.

I owe a LOT in taxes and was hoping to get the money for it quickly, but I guess not. Good thing I opted for a payment plan this year :/

AlyssaJ
03-25-2017, 08:45 AM
On the monthly traffic/sales graph 24 March doesn't exist! Hits were down for me yesterday and just one sale, in the afternoon. 24 March has appeared now after running a report for that day.

That happened to me earlier this month. Of course one gets a little worried about the sales that day. I contacted support and it showed about a half day later like nothing happened. Weird how many things can fuck up isn't it lol...

AlyssaJ
03-25-2017, 09:03 AM
My videos are showing in my store, but no one is buying them. Even my regular seems to have disappeared. He buys all of my videos as they come out. I haven't been on social media the last few days to see what's happening.

I owe a LOT in taxes and was hoping to get the money for it quickly, but I guess not. Good thing I opted for a payment plan this year :/

I am new at C4S, but not new to marketing and creative type of work. It just baffles me how hard C4S can be to "get". As soon as I think I have a bestseller it's almost jinxed to not sell at all. Some quite mundane videos can be on the lists for ages and pretty much get duplicated by others and still sell. Then suddenly that thing is dead. A category flooded with updates was my go-to in the start, and now I can't seem to sell there at all. Another category had few updates but I discovered there are a lot of customers - then suddenly the customers seemed gone. I thought I had regulars already but now they're gone. I still try though to believe I learn just a little something new every day.

I find it so hard and unpredictable myself. But every small business takes time and effort to take off - years actually for most. I guess you have been on for years, but trends change in every field and it can be hard to see it coming. Keep trying, make uploads every day. It's the only way. I missed just a few updates bc of my other job, and I dropped the lists so much faster than I climbed them. My goal for now is to let C4S finance working a little less at my other job so I can actually have, like Sundays off, maybe in the fall :) Break down the goals in smaller steps :)

justsometwat
03-25-2017, 09:26 AM
I have been on c4s since 2011 and have changed categories from vanilla to female domination. Part of the problem with that category is the influx of girls that think that it's easy money. They think they can just shout at the camera and demand money and men hand it over like candy. All of those shows and documentaries keep coming out that make it seem like it's really that easy. Suddenly thousand of girls are signing up for cam and clip sites and flood these categories and bury you.

This is why I am keeping track of daily and monthly sales so I can go back and reference last years sales and find any correlation. This industry will constantly change, there's never really any pattern, but I think it's good to know what you can sort of expect during certain months. Sales change with seasons and what holidays are coming up. I know that this won't be sustainable for me, I can't keep doing this for the next 20 years and expect to bring home the same amount of money.

I USED to do daily uploads, but it's only really working on other sites, not c4s. It's whatever they are doing to the site that is affecting me the most. If I can make money on other sites but not c4s then something is wrong on that end, I just don't see what everyone else sees, like updates not showing because I don't look at the site. I don't even check my store unless I think something is wrong. It's a waste of my time to have daily updates if my sales do not get better when I have 1 update every day or 1 update every 2 days. I've made over 2,000 videos in since 2011 (probably even more) and at this point I am hitting a wall. I have no idea what I can film anymore. I remake videos from 2015 or older and they sell, but I can only do that so many time.

It's even harder because I absolutely will not do taboo videos, even just roleplay. I don't do any type of bathroom videos. I don't deal with poppers or doing drugs, forced intox is the only thing I work with. I don't do real blackmail, just generic stuff and I won't use teamviewer or "out" anyone. I will NEVER do anything to humiliate or embarrass myself, those seem to be the most requested. I think those things are what affect my earnings the most. There's no real connection to me or any real reason to stay loyal to only me other than I tend to put out more videos per month than top dommes on IWC do.

Classy_Katy
03-25-2017, 10:01 AM
I started in 2012 and C4S was very consistent until 2 or 3 years ago. Although popularity in a category would wane after a while, there would be another you could find to take it's place. There have been so many changes to the site since then and I haven't found any to be an improvement. More studios opening all the time as people shift from camming as that becomes less reliable. All these programmes on the sex industry being easy money certainly don't help, and one in particular made a big negative impact on Adultwork a few years ago. I'm not very active in clips at the moment and seeing what's happening isn't a great incentive to get back into updating every day again. It doesn't help that so many breach the rules, leaving those of us who follow the rules out of pocket...categories I used to do very well in, I just don't bother with now.

Tea4Me
03-25-2017, 01:30 PM
I don't worry about people who think this is easy money, because people who look for easy money in life aren't looking to put the work in. Girls who think you just throw up the middle finger and say "fuck you, pay me, loser" will soon become disillusioned. (Findom) And people who think making clips is easy money will soon find that it takes more effort than they thought.

And I don't worry about other competition because I don't think it takes away from me or my money. It's pretty rare to see new people come in that really have a unique style/angle/take on fetish. Most of what I see is just people mimicking other clip studios. No originally. And guys see that too. But once in a while I do see studios (new or old) do really well and I can understand they are popular.

There's always going to be competition and I feel it just keeps me on my toes. I know I need to try and keep things fresh and try new ideas/categories once in a while.

PixiieGirl
03-25-2017, 01:54 PM
its a shame it's not as good as it was, wish I'd joined sooner! but I am preferring this to camming tbh so even if I never make big bucks from it, as it is a side income for me it's worth it I think (just my own experiences of course)

MistressX
03-25-2017, 02:13 PM
It seems like every platform in the sex industry is going down the tubes. Now c4s? Jeez. Yeah i dont know what we were doing wrong because we updated every day and still got shit for sales. C4S better get their shit together because I heard through the grapevine that there are a couple new competitor sites in the works. iWantClips never sells for me, so I stick with c4s... for now.

MissJu
03-25-2017, 02:27 PM
I don't worry about people who think this is easy money, because people who look for easy money in life aren't looking to put the work in. Girls who think you just throw up the middle finger and say "fuck you, pay me, loser" will soon become disillusioned. (Findom) And people who think making clips is easy money will soon find that it takes more effort than they thought.

And I don't worry about other competition because I don't think it takes away from me or my money. It's pretty rare to see new people come in that really have a unique style/angle/take on fetish. Most of what I see is just people mimicking other clip studios. No originally. And guys see that too. But once in a while I do see studios (new or old) do really well and I can understand they are popular.

There's always going to be competition and I feel it just keeps me on my toes. I know I need to try and keep things fresh and try new ideas/categories once in a while.
I would agree on everything. All I wish for....clips4sale should work like a clock! For the past half year they delayed payments 2 times, site keep having issues such as search, does not display well cat-s and etc. I also understand that to handle such a big amount of studios and even bigger amount of vids, you couldn't predict how well updates will "digest".

MissJu
03-25-2017, 02:46 PM
It seems like every platform in the sex industry is going down the tubes. Now c4s? Jeez. Yeah i dont know what we were doing wrong because we updated every day and still got shit for sales. C4S better get their shit together because I heard through the grapevine that there are a couple new competitor sites in the works. iWantClips never sells for me, so I stick with c4s... for now.
Those new "competitors" better come up with strategy how to attract traffic and even producers. They can offer "mountains"and 85% payout, but if my stuff will get stolen from their website.I would not post my vids there.

justsometwat
03-25-2017, 03:13 PM
I don't worry about the newbies when they are just so wrong, but it does flood the new video section with junk videos that re generally rip off of popular selling videos because these girls don't care if you get mad that they ripped you off. If they want to make themselves look bad then that is on them, but sometimes it leaves a sour taste in customer's mouths and they go straight to the model instead of browsing the new videos.

New sites popping up? There's something that most of these sites don't have that c4s definitely does and that's the traffic, on top of that they have the reputation. When naughtyfactory popped up I thought it had potential. I just went to look at it and they took it offline to try to revamp it. They failed their first round and now they are trying to rebrand it to revitalize it. It's not going to happen, unless they find a way to drive a MASSIVE amount of traffic to the model's there's just no way.

Clipvia popped up and right out of the gate they not only did not have the traffic, but they were trying to pay out too much and ended up not being able to pay models when they first opened and ultimately shut down for the same reason. They shuttered their site in 12/2016, I was unpaid since 06/2015. It wasn't sustainable.

IWC works because they have these models that bring in their own traffic, which is why so many models complain that they could not make any money. IWC doesn't drive their own traffic, it's all on the models.

c4s can stay on top of all of this as long as they get their shit together and customers can buy videos without incident. I doubt anything could ever top c4s unless c4s fucks everything up and can't fix it.

KittyLovelicks
03-25-2017, 06:36 PM
Clearly I just suck at this.... all you girls are complaining about one day with no sales. I have weeks a a time with 0 sales! I have had 4 sales this week so that is a good week for me.

Is is my video categories and the actual video itse'f where I'm failing? I try not to look at other models work as I don't want to be accused of ripping someone's idea off. But, at the same time I have needed to watch some clips to get an idea of what certain fetishes are all about. One thing I've noticed with the top selling producers is that ALL of their clips have some sort of a storyline....is this where I'm going wrong, mine really don't have a storyline it's just me talking about the fetish and giving encouragement, or making myself cum. So tell me honestly, to improve my clips am I going to need to start writing stories and scripts? If that's all it is I'll try harder, but if I'm still missing the mark as to why my clips don't sell, then I really don't know what more to do other than admit defeat.

There is something going on witht the site...I haven't been able to upload via ftp for the last 12 hours, they just continually fail. Uploading in the web browser much slower than normal too. So this is all because of server upgrades? Love the advice "don't upload for a few weeks" I guess I'll leave C4S alone for a while then. I need to rethink my approach anyway, I'm still going wrong somewhere.