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LustyLark
07-12-2017, 10:42 AM
Oh I am! I am furious. Doesn't help that I need cigarettes either. They aren't exactly seeing the best side of me right now haha

LustyLark
07-12-2017, 11:40 PM
I showed them an email where they previously paid me via first choice and they didn't respond to me at all but within 15 minutes I had my money. So at least that is dealt with.

takiaya
07-13-2017, 01:12 PM
So I got a reply back from Neil the other day about an suggestion I sent in. They are working on a custom video ordering option, and they are planning to revamp the members site area if anyone else was wondering about these things besides me xD.

Classy_Katy
07-13-2017, 09:53 PM
So I got a reply back from Neil the other day about an suggestion I sent in. They are working on a custom video ordering option, and they are planning to revamp the members site area if anyone else was wondering about these things besides me xD.

Neil was talking about the custom option quite a while ago...maybe 2 years, I can't remember. The question then was whether we were going to pay their cut or the customer but nothing more was said. It would be helpful, especially since they have stopped our store and contact information showing when landing on the page.

Sam38g
07-13-2017, 10:16 PM
Neil was talking about the custom option quite a while ago...maybe 2 years, I can't remember. The question then was whether we were going to pay their cut or the customer but nothing more was said. It would be helpful, especially since they have stopped our store and contact information showing when landing on the page.

That company makes very few changes over time. They have a formula that works for them. And if it ain't broken, don't mess with it. They don't need to be manyvids or iwantclips. they are OG & still thriving.

I'm sure all of you watermark your vids. If a guy wants a custom he will seek you out & make it happen one way or another.

While Neil has always been willing to listen & put some advice to use. I do trust that he knows what is best overall for his site. With customs there can be lots more chargebacks & scams to occur. While most of you are honest there are plenty in the world that are not. There is a huge world of scam artist who would love to find a way into that site & exploit it before they catch onto it. Companies that it happens to don't talk about but it is real & happens a lot more than ya'll think it does.

With all the other ways to do customs without C4S being apart of the equation.

C4s is a juggernaut that for decades the mainstream part of porn made fun of. Now they are all wondering how to make money on it at this point. There are lots of people including some of you who make good money on that site. Don't mess with a winning formula. C4S is perfect exactly how it is now.

Sinna (2pee4you)
07-16-2017, 07:54 AM
That company makes very few changes over time. They have a formula that works for them. And if it ain't broken, don't mess with it. They don't need to be manyvids or iwantclips. they are OG & still thriving.

I'm sure all of you watermark your vids. If a guy wants a custom he will seek you out & make it happen one way or another.

While Neil has always been willing to listen & put some advice to use. I do trust that he knows what is best overall for his site. With customs there can be lots more chargebacks & scams to occur. While most of you are honest there are plenty in the world that are not. There is a huge world of scam artist who would love to find a way into that site & exploit it before they catch onto it. Companies that it happens to don't talk about but it is real & happens a lot more than ya'll think it does.

With all the other ways to do customs without C4S being apart of the equation.

C4s is a juggernaut that for decades the mainstream part of porn made fun of. Now they are all wondering how to make money on it at this point. There are lots of people including some of you who make good money on that site. Don't mess with a winning formula. C4S is perfect exactly how it is now.


I agree and disagree. You can't deny that a wishlist / favorites system for customers would increase sales and be a great feature. I hear customers all the time about it. If they could park interesting clips in a list so they don't forget about them, that would help.

Use abandoned cart reminder emails with that.

I also suggested a pre-filled shopping cart feature, where store owners could bundle a bunch of clips for a fixed amount and the customer could add all of them to his cart with just one click. You could make a starter pack, a bundle for a specific category, a Christmas surprise pack etc.

Some cool features that they said they would add are already taking years and no one knows if they ever come

Sam38g
07-16-2017, 04:22 PM
I agree and disagree. You can't deny that a wishlist / favorites system for customers would increase sales and be a great feature. I hear customers all the time about it. If they could park interesting clips in a list so they don't forget about them, that would help.

Use abandoned cart reminder emails with that.

I also suggested a pre-filled shopping cart feature, where store owners could bundle a bunch of clips for a fixed amount and the customer could add all of them to his cart with just one click. You could make a starter pack, a bundle for a specific category, a Christmas surprise pack etc.

Some cool features that they said they would add are already taking years and no one knows if they ever come

Neil from what I understand from others who have been on that site selling for a long time is willing to listen to ideas & suggestions. In the end, whether or not they get implemented is up to him. He has survived when lots of the traditional porn companies sold out to Minkgeek & all use the tubesites for marketing. He didn't. I give him props for it too.

Classy_Katy
07-16-2017, 09:46 PM
That company makes very few changes over time. They have a formula that works for them. And if it ain't broken, don't mess with it. They don't need to be manyvids or iwantclips. they are OG & still thriving.



My post was in reply to another about Neil saying that they are actually working on a custom ordering option...I was pointing out that it was talked about some while ago. I was not saying we should have it when we're not getting it, apparently they do think this is a needed change.

Sinna (2pee4you)
07-16-2017, 09:59 PM
Neil from what I understand from others who have been on that site selling for a long time is willing to listen to ideas & suggestions. In the end, whether or not they get implemented is up to him. He has survived when lots of the traditional porn companies sold out to Minkgeek & all use the tubesites for marketing. He didn't. I give him props for it too.

I have been on c4s since 2011, which I guess counts as a long time, although others have certainly been on there longer. There have been changes in those years, functionality, interface, design, speed, stats etc. but I have not seen a new feature or any promised feature. It is correct that Neil listens and often says he puts it on a list with the programmers, but I have not seen or heard updates about most of the things he wanted to implement (like camming). It seems to me that they are either working on a big c4s revamp while keeping the old site as functional as possible (but I don't think so) or they are working on the change of the studio admin as #1 priority since several months and are not rolling out anything else. Like a custom ordering option (which I don't think is a priority tbh).

Sam38g
07-16-2017, 11:44 PM
I have been on c4s since 2011, which I guess counts as a long time, although others have certainly been on there longer. There have been changes in those years, functionality, interface, design, speed, stats etc. but I have not seen a new feature or any promised feature. It is correct that Neil listens and often says he puts it on a list with the programmers, but I have not seen or heard updates about most of the things he wanted to implement (like camming). It seems to me that they are either working on a big c4s revamp while keeping the old site as functional as possible (but I don't think so) or they are working on the change of the studio admin as #1 priority since several months and are not rolling out anything else. Like a custom ordering option (which I don't think is a priority tbh).

I remember when he tried the camming thing on there & it didn't take off.

Classy_Katy
07-17-2017, 04:51 AM
I didn't know camming ever went live on the site.

Tea4Me
07-17-2017, 09:00 AM
Quoting Neil from this interview: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-interview-neil-clips4sale-com/

"C4S will grow over the next few years to include cams, in room viewing, memberships, customs, user accounts, mobile and streaming. Also better searching capabilities for users. I feel that searching to find what you want is at the top of the list and we are already working on several of these things and when people see we have a one stop shop for everything they need then there will be no reason to waste time with others."

SFHS
07-17-2017, 09:09 AM
Quoting Neil from this interview: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-interview-neil-clips4sale-com/

"C4S will grow over the next few years to include cams, in room viewing, memberships, customs, user accounts, mobile and streaming. Also better searching capabilities for users. I feel that searching to find what you want is at the top of the list and we are already working on several of these things and when people see we have a one stop shop for everything they need then there will be no reason to waste time with others."

I actually wish they would get to work on an app for streaming. If they had an app for Roku with fully functioning search of the entire website where people could buy our clips and instead of downloading them they could instead stream them whenever they wanted, I feel that impulse buying would heavily increase and we'd all be making more money.

Sam38g
07-17-2017, 10:10 AM
Quoting Neil from this interview: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-interview-neil-clips4sale-com/

"C4S will grow over the next few years to include cams, in room viewing, memberships, customs, user accounts, mobile and streaming. Also better searching capabilities for users. I feel that searching to find what you want is at the top of the list and we are already working on several of these things and when people see we have a one stop shop for everything they need then there will be no reason to waste time with others."

What is the date this blog was published? Couldn't find it.

Natalie0523
07-17-2017, 12:31 PM
I'm sure all of you watermark your vids. If a guy wants a custom he will seek you out & make it happen one way or another.

Yes, definitely. This has happened to me many times.

Tea4Me
07-17-2017, 03:38 PM
What is the date this blog was published? Couldn't find it.

No idea, I don't think there are dates on any of the blog posts on the C4S blog.

Sam38g
07-17-2017, 04:40 PM
If my memory is correct about 10 years or more ago they tried to add camming to C4S, I didn't use it. I was with Imlive at the time. It really didn't take off & in about a year or so the option was taken down.

I maybe wrong, but don't think it will convert well for c4s. Kink had kinklive & they switched over to being a white label to a big box company. Same thing for Vividlive, Playboylive, PlumperPass, AEBN & a few I can't remember. They all switched over to being white labels for big box cam sites. History isn't on their sides in that venue.

More likely to have more success with the customs than the camming side of the industry.

Tea4Me
07-17-2017, 05:26 PM
If my memory is correct about 10 years or more ago they tried to add camming to C4S, I didn't use it. I was with Imlive at the time. It really didn't take off & in about a year or so the option was taken down.

I maybe wrong, but don't think it will convert well for c4s. Kink had kinklive & they switched over to being a white label to a big box company. Same thing for Vividlive, Playboylive, PlumperPass, AEBN & a few I can't remember. They all switched over to being white labels for big box cam sites. History isn't on their sides in that venue.

More likely to have more success with the customs than the camming side of the industry.

I agree with your original assessment of C4S. They are the best at what they do---selling clips! They have the traffic, the history and the buyers. Other sites might have more bells and whistles but time and time again I've heard 'but you have to bring your own customers'.

laurielegs
07-17-2017, 06:03 PM
I actually wish they would get to work on an app for streaming. If they had an app for Roku with fully functioning search of the entire website where people could buy our clips and instead of downloading them they could instead stream them whenever they wanted, I feel that impulse buying would heavily increase and we'd all be making more money.

They do have streaming. For those who have c4slive membership sites enabled any clip a studio owner adds can be streamed. I have them enabled on almost all my stores. Rarely ever do I have a sale even though they pay 10x the price to buy instead of stream. My customers want downloads.

laurielegs
07-17-2017, 06:08 PM
If my memory is correct about 10 years or more ago they tried to add camming to C4S, I didn't use it. I was with Imlive at the time. It really didn't take off & in about a year or so the option was taken down.

I maybe wrong, but don't think it will convert well for c4s. Kink had kinklive & they switched over to being a white label to a big box company. Same thing for Vividlive, Playboylive, PlumperPass, AEBN & a few I can't remember. They all switched over to being white labels for big box cam sites. History isn't on their sides in that venue.

More likely to have more success with the customs than the camming side of the industry.

You remember correctly!

I was so excited about it and spent a lot of hours trying to get it going but it was very very dead and stayed dead. Seems my video customers mainly prefer vids with little to no interaction and my live session customers want to see me live and interact. Was an interesting experiment though.

I do get customs though, would enjoy it if they offered an easy way for customers to order - now I have to send them offsite and it is inconvenient for both customers and for me.

SFHS
07-17-2017, 07:07 PM
They do have streaming. For those who have c4slive membership sites enabled any clip a studio owner adds can be streamed. I have them enabled on almost all my stores. Rarely ever do I have a sale even though they pay 10x the price to buy instead of stream. My customers want downloads.

You don't understand what I'm saying they should do because what you just described is far from what I said they should do. I don't want a membership site. I want an C4S app on something like Roku. Then customers can browse the site and buy clips right from the app and can stream them from the app. Kinda of like how people buy movies and watch them from Itunes using Apple TV. This is the future and C4S needs to be one step ahead of the game because if they don't do it then another clip site will and benefit greatly from it. C4S doesn't want to be Blockbuster Video while another clip site ends up being Netflix.

Tea4Me
07-17-2017, 07:21 PM
You don't understand what I'm saying they should do because what you just described is far from what I said they should do. I don't want a membership site. I want an C4S app on something like Roku. Then customers can browse the site and buy clips right from the app and can stream them from the app. Kinda of like how people buy movies and watch them from Itunes using Apple TV. This is the future and C4S needs to be one step ahead of the game because if they don't do it then another clip site will and benefit greatly from it. C4S doesn't want to be Blockbuster Video while another clip site ends up being Netflix.

I know I asked this once before on this thread and no one had an answer.... Customers can't download (save) clips to their smartphones, can they? I've never tried to buy/download a clip myself on my phone, as an experiment, so I really don't know. I know some people offer mobile versions of their clips but I thought that still meant a customer had to download them on a computer, and then upload them to their phone.

So with the streaming, are you thinking the customer would have one time access to the clip and could view it for a limited amount of time? Or something else?

SFHS
07-17-2017, 07:24 PM
I know I asked this once before on this thread and no one had an answer.... Customers can't download (save) clips to their smartphones, can they? I've never tried to buy/download a clip myself on my phone, as an experiment, so I really don't know. I know some people offer mobile versions of their clips but I thought that still meant a customer had to download them on a computer, and then upload them to their phone.

So with the streaming, are you thinking the customer would have one time access to the clip and could view it for a limited amount of time? Or something else?

They would own the clip and be able to stream it anytime they wanted through the C4S app.

Classy_Katy
07-17-2017, 09:52 PM
I know I asked this once before on this thread and no one had an answer.... Customers can't download (save) clips to their smartphones, can they? I've never tried to buy/download a clip myself on my phone, as an experiment, so I really don't know. I know some people offer mobile versions of their clips but I thought that still meant a customer had to download them on a computer, and then upload them to their phone.



Yes they can download to their phone.

Tea4Me
07-17-2017, 09:59 PM
Yes they can download to their phone.

Okay, sorry, but a dumb question.....where/how are they stored?? I've got an iPhone and I've never tried to download a file using it before and I wouldn't even know where it would be stored. Apps, songs, emails and ebooks, yes. But how do they download on their phones....? (Off to Google this because I seriously didn't think this was possible....)

UPDATE: Okay, from what I've gathered....this might just be an iPhone users problem and not Android users. Wow, I had always wondered about this....

laurielegs
07-17-2017, 10:29 PM
You don't understand what I'm saying they should do because what you just described is far from what I said they should do. I don't want a membership site. I want an C4S app on something like Roku. Then customers can browse the site and buy clips right from the app and can stream them from the app. Kinda of like how people buy movies and watch them from Itunes using Apple TV. This is the future and C4S needs to be one step ahead of the game because if they don't do it then another clip site will and benefit greatly from it. C4S doesn't want to be Blockbuster Video while another clip site ends up being Netflix.

Yes you can buy the whole membership or you can buy per clip. The streaming is a part of my membership site but you don't have to pay the whole fee - just buy and steam one clip if they like and they get to stream that one single clip forever.

Go here http://www.c4slive.com and click HD Streams on a store that has it enabled and you can see how it works. Not a lot of stores have it enabled. I've sold memberships (rarely) but only one clip on HD streaming has sold in several years.

No app but my streams work on my phone from the website fine.

SFHS
07-18-2017, 06:27 AM
Yes you can buy the whole membership or you can buy per clip. The streaming is a part of my membership site but you don't have to pay the whole fee - just buy and steam one clip if they like and they get to stream that one single clip forever.

Go here http://www.c4slive.com and click HD Streams on a store that has it enabled and you can see how it works. Not a lot of stores have it enabled. I've sold memberships (rarely) but only one clip on HD streaming has sold in several years.

No app but my streams work on my phone from the website fine.

Again you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. You're so hung up on the membership that everything I'm saying seems to be going right over your head. Most people don't use the membership aspect of their stores because one guy can buy a membership for a month, download everything, and then post it to torrent sites. Plus the membership still isn't what I'm explaining. I'm talking about individual clip sales but instead of downloading them you can stream them on your TV using an app on a streaming box like Roku and they can browse C4S and buy clips right from the app. People can still choose to buy them from the website and download them but it gives the customer choice of how they want our content.

starburst
07-18-2017, 06:52 AM
In laurielegs defense,
A customer has the ability to stream said individual clip whether or not they have a membership. It's 2017 and any decently literate person that knows how to stream can easily set it up to their sweet 4k tv.

I can understand your idea of maybe adding a C4S app to a streaming service like roku - a way for a customer to access clips directly from a tv. From a business perspective - it would be a risky move for C4S to initiate that kind of deal with Roku. It would cost the company a lot for something that isn't garaunteed to increase exposure or sales. Not to mention, I feel like people wouldnt necessarily turn to Roku first for porn. The same can be said for kodi and hulu. The server can be quite funky at times, lag up, etc.

Again - if a person really wanted to stream a clip, all it takes is a simple cable or Chromecast.

SFHS
07-18-2017, 07:04 AM
In laurielegs defense,
A customer has the ability to stream said individual clip whether or not they have a membership. It's 2017 and any decently literate person that knows how to stream can easily set it up to their sweet 4k tv.

I can understand your idea of maybe adding a C4S app to a streaming service like roku - a way for a customer to access clips directly from a tv. From a business perspective - it would be a risky move for C4S to initiate that kind of deal with Roku. It would cost the company a lot for something that isn't garaunteed to increase exposure or sales. Not to mention, I feel like people wouldnt necessarily turn to Roku first for porn. The same can be said for kodi and hulu. The server can be quite funky at times, lag up, etc.

Again - if a person really wanted to stream a clip, all it takes is a simple cable or Chromecast.

You'd be surprised how many people don't know how to stream from their computer to their TV. This just makes it simple for them. You also don't have to make a deal with Roku. Anyone can have their own Roku channel. Will Roku advertise it? No, they won't. But C4S can advertise their Roku app on their website and that's all they need.

starburst
07-18-2017, 08:44 AM
Do you have any idea how many servers C4S would need to get all of that data on there?

starburst
07-18-2017, 08:46 AM
I can see it being a plausible idea - but it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle on C4S's end.

SFHS
07-18-2017, 11:56 AM
Do you have any idea how many servers C4S would need to get all of that data on there?

Our data is already on their servers. There is little difference between someone downloading our content as opposed to streaming it. You have to remember technology moves fast. Every year less people buy actual computers. A lot of people are fine with tablets or smart phones. We makes most of our money from people with computers (desktops and laptops) buying our content and then downloading it. The number of people owning these computers is decreasing. It might not be affecting our sales now but it could in another 5 to 10 years. That's why you have to think ahead.

starburst
07-19-2017, 02:46 AM
You are 100% in the uprise of additional technology being used to satisfy porn usage. And yes - you are also right in saying people are buying less computers. Computers have evolved and have become much more powerful then they used to be - But that isn't to say a 2002 tower computer still isn't running and going.

Computer sales are declining because people don't have the need to upgrade them much anymore. It's 2017. Since we have more experience and information about PC's, it's only fair that eventually they would become powerful enough to withstand years of use. People go crazy over new phone releases and new tablet releases because that technology is still on a *much slowed down* rise. Plus - I feel it's much easier to break a phone over breaking a computer. Does that mean that people are really using less of their PC? Idk.

Regardless - I think you're looking more for C4S to increase their exposure to stay relevant in the industry. Yes - Offering streaming services would be a nifty feature for customers, but is it truly necessary?

"It might not be affecting our sales now but it could in another 5 to 10 years. That's why you have to think ahead."

Are you sure that our future relies on streaming services like Roku and not technology like chromecast?

starburst
07-19-2017, 02:46 AM
Anyone can download and watch a video on their phone or tablet already.

SFHS
07-19-2017, 06:57 AM
You are 100% in the uprise of additional technology being used to satisfy porn usage. And yes - you are also right in saying people are buying less computers. Computers have evolved and have become much more powerful then they used to be - But that isn't to say a 2002 tower computer still isn't running and going.

Computer sales are declining because people don't have the need to upgrade them much anymore. It's 2017. Since we have more experience and information about PC's, it's only fair that eventually they would become powerful enough to withstand years of use. People go crazy over new phone releases and new tablet releases because that technology is still on a *much slowed down* rise. Plus - I feel it's much easier to break a phone over breaking a computer. Does that mean that people are really using less of their PC? Idk.

Regardless - I think you're looking more for C4S to increase their exposure to stay relevant in the industry. Yes - Offering streaming services would be a nifty feature for customers, but is it truly necessary?

"It might not be affecting our sales now but it could in another 5 to 10 years. That's why you have to think ahead."

Are you sure that our future relies on streaming services like Roku and not technology like chromecast?

Yes, computers are more powerful than they were 10 years ago but people are still abandoning them. I know a lot of people who had computers but in the age of tablets have since stopped buying them.

Yes I do think streaming is necessary. Look at what your saying, that C4S should do nothing. I think that is the worst thing they can do. You act like everyone knows how to set up streaming from computer or tablets to their TVs. Believe me, they don't. I have friends who have these streaming boxes and have no idea how to do that type of streaming. I've tried to explain it to them and they look at me like I'm speaking Mandarin. What they do instead is just download channels from the app store and stream whatever content they have. Most people need the simplicity of an app that they can download. I honestly don't get how how want to argue against the simplicity and user friendliness of C4S having their own app.

SFHS
07-19-2017, 09:50 AM
How's July been for everybody? My sales on C4S have been sluggish. The problem is 90% of my sales are single clip orders. Just not getting the multiple clip sales this month. Last July was also sluggish for me. The only thing saving me is that I'm having better than normal sales on Iwantclips and Kinbkbomb so everything will average out at the end of the month.

PixiieGirl
07-19-2017, 10:28 AM
How's July been for everybody? My sales on C4S have been sluggish. The problem is 90% of my sales are single clip orders. Just not getting the multiple clip sales this month. Last July was also sluggish for me. The only thing saving me is that I'm having better than normal sales on Iwantclips and Kinbkbomb so everything will average out at the end of the month.
mines not been too bad tbh! I mean my sales have been low consistently since I started lol, but I had a good start with sales everyday then a sale of like 5 clips last night - I'm on $60 this month and my highest earning month ever was $75 so for me its been a good month - but I've not earnt as high or worked the site as long as you gals :)

starburst
07-20-2017, 09:52 AM
How's July been for everybody? My sales on C4S have been sluggish. The problem is 90% of my sales are single clip orders. Just not getting the multiple clip sales this month. Last July was also sluggish for me. The only thing saving me is that I'm having better than normal sales on Iwantclips and Kinbkbomb so everything will average out at the end of the month.

July started off strong for me and then it just...died? Not a single sale in a few days. My traffic dropped like crazy, too.

Sara - Clips4Sale.com
07-20-2017, 11:15 AM
What is the date this blog was published? Couldn't find it.

The interview with Neil was first published April, 2017 on MonthlyFetish.com :)

http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-interview-neil-clips4sale-com/

Neil spoke about all the new stuff we're working on for Clips4sale.com

SFHS
07-20-2017, 11:45 AM
July started off strong for me and then it just...died? Not a single sale in a few days. My traffic dropped like crazy, too.

My traffic is down from last month too. What's scaring me is that my last August was worse than my last July. Hopefully that won't be the case this year.

Felicia[FightServ]
07-21-2017, 06:57 PM
Is anyone getting large, out of the ordinary orders? New buyer buying $400-$500 worth of clips, then buying $300-$400 or MORE. I see several models mentioning massive chargebacks in the past few days.
https://twitter.com/search?q=clips4sale%20chargebacks&src=typd

If these orders end up charged back, we're going to be $2K in the hole :(

justsometwat
07-21-2017, 07:03 PM
Contact support with their info right now and ask them if it's fraudulent and if it is to refund it now. I did that before the end of the pay period so the next month I'm not fucked.

Tea4Me
07-21-2017, 07:56 PM
Is anyone getting large, out of the ordinary orders? New buyer buying $400-$500 worth of clips, then buying $300-$400 or MORE. I see several models mentioning massive chargebacks in the past few days.
https://twitter.com/search?q=clips4sale%20chargebacks&src=typd

If these orders end up charged back, we're going to be $2K in the hole :(

Wait, a brand new (to you) customer, or brand new to C4S (as in no previous purchase history)? Because I thought they put automatic blocks on new customers who do a large (over $100) clip orders and the customer has to contact C4S to verify their identity before they can download the clips...?

Felicia[FightServ]
07-21-2017, 08:20 PM
Both new to us, to C4S I'm not sure. I'll have to ask them.

Sam38g
07-21-2017, 09:05 PM
Is anyone getting large, out of the ordinary orders? New buyer buying $400-$500 worth of clips, then buying $300-$400 or MORE. I see several models mentioning massive chargebacks in the past few days.
https://twitter.com/search?q=clips4sale%20chargebacks&src=typd

If these orders end up charged back, we're going to be $2K in the hole :(

That is unusual & something to worry about. The same buyer both times?
Write support & ask if it is normal for that buyer in general. If he is a long time good customer.

Going to assume all videos are watermarked. In general, people in porn try to be polite about their watermarks & make them small, off to the side. You made it super easy for a content thief to cut it off the video. Make them bigger & a bit more obnoxious. Only one complaint which was from my webmaster. NONE of my customers, so not changing it.

Of course they can completely remove any watermark in editing programs, but they are lazy & like vids they can easily just cut it off.

Ask & see if it is possible to put a spending cap on each customer of $100 a day or for a week. At almost what $1000 is a lot of video & they can start whole new site, flood tubesites with it & direct the traffic to their endeavors.

Keep an eye out on all the tubes.

Sam38g
07-21-2017, 09:12 PM
Read the 3 post on that Twitter thread. Just a theory, Russians do run tons of credit card scams & they steal lots of content to run on Russian pay sites & flood tubesites in general to make money & get traffic.

If your content is stolen by Russians there is NOTHING you can do. NO DMCA, no laws no nothing. Please do notify C4S see if they can limit purchases to a few hundred per person a month or something.

The weekend starts there earlier too in Russia by what 13 hours? Perfect time to hit & do lots of charges before Monday morning & people get into the office.

If your niche is femdom, they can flip on you.

Jupiter77
07-21-2017, 11:20 PM
So if you search clips4sale and chargebacks on twitter there are a ton within the last few days

justsometwat
07-22-2017, 06:28 AM
If you add up just the amounts people are tweeting it's $10,000+ for the last 30-40 days. Imagine how much more that aren't tweeting?!

Everyone is saying the same thing I was... I've never gotten charge backs before, no other site gets charge backs but c4s, I'm not getting notified about them, it's the same person/people every month, etc.

Clearly something is happening and only on c4s. Not broken? Definitely is.

I'd delete my store if I knew people would follow me me over to other sites. C4S is a slowly sinking ship and I don't wanna be on it anymore, but I need that extra $700-1000 a month or I'm SOL

Sam38g
07-22-2017, 07:05 PM
I've looked it up only see 5 for this year & not for all those amounts. Maybe I am doing the search wrong.

Tea4Me
07-22-2017, 08:41 PM
I've looked it up only see 5 for this year & not for all those amounts. Maybe I am doing the search wrong.

Try: C4S chargebacks