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AlyssaJ
12-10-2017, 08:27 PM
I gave up and made new super ugly thumbnails with the rollover pic maker. Not only are the first 5 mins not representative at all in this clip (it's a long one), pic maker makes it in super shitty quality. And one of the two clips still not working! So I tried deactivating and reactivating the clips, only to find that takes them down from their categories completely! I spent all night on this and now have 3 hours to sleep before my vanilla job. Can anyone tell my mood right now?
xStitchesx
12-10-2017, 10:14 PM
What about smoking in gloves, smoking outside, smoking in leather, pov smoking. I like making smoking videos. I don't smoke regular cigarettes anymore, now I make my own with herbs. It's a lot easier on my throat than smoking was and I don't crave cigarettes like I used to.
Missxx
12-10-2017, 10:43 PM
Yes! Honeyrose works! You can buy them on amazon. Its not NEARLY as harsh and made with herbs as well. I actually don't think I have gloves. The others i've certainly done. Time to go glove shopping. Thank you! <3
Classy_Katy
12-11-2017, 01:00 AM
Also! Does anyone know any fetishes that sell well with smoking? Guys have been eating up the regular but it's basically just a new outfit. Nothing... new. lol. it's really boring to film! While looking around I usually see lip/lipstick and coughing. I don't see anyone doing much else with smoking. Perhaps this category is just a bland thing to film.
You can tease the ones who have given up smoking. You can hypnotise them to start smoking.
Goldenx.Chiquis
12-11-2017, 04:49 AM
Does anyone have any advice or know a thread about sound balance when making clips? I want to make like a regular video and talk (not like an ASMR one), but also have background music. I want to make sure that my voice and the music have a perfect balance and not overbear one or another. Should I look into buying a microphone? I don't use the one on my Logitech c920, but I use the internal one on my MacBook since I speak quite loudly and film close to it. I really want a Blue Yeti but the new ones cost a Nice penny. I might buy one later down the line though.
P.S. I prefer using Adobe premiere, I used to use Filmora but didn't like that it reduced the quality of the video from my Logitech c920.
lilly90xxx
12-11-2017, 04:59 AM
Having the rollover bug again, with an empty square and question mark showing instead of my thumbnail pic :( I lost the valuable front page exposure before I even got the chat support employer to get what I meant. Some of them just aren't the brightest. He kept telling me the rollover maker works, jeez... It's been "forwarded to programmers." If they even fix it it will be lost way down in the category by then.
Anyone knows a way to fix this without using the rollover maker? It only gives you the first 5 mins to choose from and I had the perfect pic from later in the clip. So annoying with this one especially because I happened to look like a well known celebrity in that particular frame and was dying to see if it would bring some extra traffic...
I a lot of times i have this problem too ( sometimes i can choose my thumbnail, and sometimes i have just this question mark). I don't know why it happen, so i learned that when i make my gif ( i make it in a movie maker from small sequences of my clip and then turn it into a gif) i always remember to start my gif with some good scene, because the start of your gif is the thumbnail you get. Because of that i even don't use the rollover pic maker anymore, since i know exactly how my gif would look like.
fetishqueen
12-11-2017, 05:41 AM
Does anyone have any advice or know a thread about sound balance when making clips? I want to make like a regular video and talk (not like an ASMR one), but also have background music. I want to make sure that my voice and the music have a perfect balance and not overbear one or another. Should I look into buying a microphone? I don't use the one on my Logitech c920, but I use the internal one on my MacBook since I speak quite loudly and film close to it. I really want a Blue Yeti but the new ones cost a Nice penny. I might buy one later down the line though.
P.S. I prefer using Adobe premiere, I used to use Filmora but didn't like that it reduced the quality of the video from my Logitech c920.
I use Movavi Video Suite and you can add a second audio track to the video one quite easily, then you can adjust the volume of each separately. I have no idea how Adobe premiere works I'm afraid but I would have thought you could do this?
Classy_Katy
12-11-2017, 07:43 AM
Anyone knows a way to fix this without using the rollover maker? It only gives you the first 5 mins to choose from and I had the perfect pic from later in the clip. So annoying with this one especially because I happened to look like a well known celebrity in that particular frame and was dying to see if it would bring some extra traffic...
The rollover maker is really hopeless...and when it does work, the quality is shocking. I take still images from anywhere in the clip and then make them into a gif using photoscape. The moving video type of gif may be better but I've never found one that works properly for me and hasn't taken all day to attempt. Start the gif with the best image for displaying in the category.
fetishqueen
12-11-2017, 09:06 AM
The rollover maker is really hopeless...and when it does work, the quality is shocking. I take still images from anywhere in the clip and then make them into a gif using photoscape. The moving video type of gif may be better but I've never found one that works properly for me and hasn't taken all day to attempt. Start the gif with the best image for displaying in the category.
Katy I make my moving gifs with Movavi Video Converter, I use the Editor to edit the clips then open them in the Converter to chop & save into gifs. It doesn't take long at all and there is also a function to take a snapshot, useful if you are uploading on other sites ;) Making the moving gifs honestly takes a few minutes and you can easily move it still by still to make sure the opening shot is a good one. HTH x
I would add that it used to take me a lot longer to trawl through the clip pulling stills for a gif and putting that together. The way I do it now is so much faster and the gifs are a lot better IMO. :)
AlyssaJ
12-11-2017, 11:18 AM
I make my gif:s in my video editor (final cut), then "shoot" it with giphy capture directly on the timeline, it's fast and saves it as a gif. Finally I edit it frame by frame if needed and compress it precisely as much as needed in ezgif, a free online gif maker/editor. It's the best way I've found to make moving gif:s. I put a lot of effort into the gif:s, especially the first frame, so that's why I'm so pissed the only way to fix a broken thumbnail pic it seems, is with the shitty rollover pic maker. I never use it otherwise.
PixiieGirl
12-11-2017, 12:25 PM
The rollover maker is really hopeless...and when it does work, the quality is shocking. I take still images from anywhere in the clip and then make them into a gif using photoscape. The moving video type of gif may be better but I've never found one that works properly for me and hasn't taken all day to attempt. Start the gif with the best image for displaying in the category.
This is exactly what I do and my reasoning to hahaha
Goldenx.Chiquis
12-12-2017, 04:28 AM
I use Movavi Video Suite and you can add a second audio track to the video one quite easily, then you can adjust the volume of each separately. I have no idea how Adobe premiere works I'm afraid but I would have thought you could do this?
Ok. Thank you so much! I haven't been making clips lately and just wanted to know without editing one. I've been so busy with my civvie job lately I can't keep up lol.
Tea4Me
12-12-2017, 10:23 PM
I don't know how many people here check the rankings of their clips/studios, but has anyone noticed anything unusual tonight when they refreshed? I had several clips in the top 5 of several categories and they just dropped down the lists (substantially) out of the blue after the lists refreshed tonight. I'm aware that it goes for the past 7 days sales and all of that. But all of the clips in the top 5 (now, and not my clips) are dated from 2011, they aren't even recent. It's really weird. Anyway, I'm gonna go put a ticket in....just wondered if anyone else here notice this.
Cam_Model_Jess
12-12-2017, 10:30 PM
Yes, I had a clip drop from #16 to #35 & it should’ve been in the upper 20s at least.
Tea4Me
12-12-2017, 10:37 PM
Yes, I had a clip drop from #16 to #35 & it should’ve been in the uppers 20s at least.
I sent a ticket to support, something weird is going on.....
Cam_Model_Jess
12-13-2017, 08:10 AM
It looks like it went back to normal, but it was all over the place yesterday.
My sales are so low this month and I just got a big ass chargeback. Fuck that. Anyone else noticed an increase in chargebacks this year?
Tea4Me
12-13-2017, 10:20 AM
It looks like it went back to normal, but it was all over the place yesterday.
Not for me, they are still way off. I got a reply from support saying it's been fixed and to look at the categories again and it has not been fixed. Google had a cached version of one of the categories from just a couple of days ago and I sent them a screenshot of that and a screenshot of the current rankings so they could see for themselves.
I monitor the categories I'm in daily (it takes all of a minute) and these rankings are way off. It just sucks to have that visibility gone when I made the sales to achieve those rankings.
UPDATE: The rankings are back to normal for me too now. :-)
justsometwat
12-13-2017, 12:59 PM
I've had $650 with of refunds/cbs this year. Last year I had $113. It all happened around when everyone else was experiencing it and haven't really gotten any since. I used to never get chargebacks, then C4S just hucked them at my face until I was ready to delete my account. It really sucked.
Tea4Me
12-13-2017, 10:55 PM
Has anyone had problems uploading large clip files before? This one is over 1.5 gig and it uploaded to 100% but then it just froze there (whereas usually it shows the file name and size once the file transfer is complete). Well it showed 100% for a few minutes and then just automatically started uploading the clip again! #$#@!! Going to see if it works this second time or I'll just try in the morning...
SylvySinclair
12-14-2017, 08:30 AM
Yes, thats why i am now compressing all videos. Pain in the ass!
Tea4Me
12-14-2017, 10:08 AM
Finally got it to upload the second time around....40 minutes later. I save my clips as .mp4's and I usually lower the bitrate the longer the clip, but it's trying to find that balance so the quality isn't crappy.
Tea4Me
12-16-2017, 08:25 PM
Anyone able to get the "Search" sales report to work/load? For the past few days, when I put a date in and click 'Search', it just shows "Loading" and does nothing. Not a big deal, just wondering if others have encountered this same problem.
Classy_Katy
12-17-2017, 12:31 AM
Anyone able to get the "Search" sales report to work/load? For the past few days, when I put a date in and click 'Search', it just shows "Loading" and does nothing. Not a big deal, just wondering if others have encountered this same problem.
Mine says "loading" for a second but then does load. I wonder if it's a browser thing, I just used Firefox.
Classy_Katy
12-17-2017, 10:06 AM
500 internal server error! Now that's not my usual C4S page...
fetishqueen
12-17-2017, 10:52 AM
500 internal server error! Now that's not my usual C4S page...
I've got the same thing Katy :(
caramelcraze
12-17-2017, 10:57 AM
I've got the same thing Katy :(
so do I. :/
Kayden
12-19-2017, 03:43 PM
Would you guys consider a video file "safe" if it plays fine in VLC Player but really wonky in Windows Media Player?
WMP never gave me smooth playback for full HD vids (bit jerky) but my last render looks like a mess with those rectangles appearing, slo-mo then sped up.
That new player "TV & Movies" that was introduced with Windows 10 also works. Wikipedia even says that WMP was removed with Fall Creators Update for Win 10 (circa Oct 2017) I still have it tho, maybe I didn't get that update.
Should I even worry if it plays in VLC?
I even uploaded it to Youtube (as a private video) to see how it processes, not only YT offered 1080p60 (native quality) it also played w/o issues, so I hope those sites that offer streaming of purchased videos (aka all of them *except* C4S) will be fine?
Robert De Niro
12-19-2017, 08:33 PM
Why not split the videos instead of decreasing the quality? you could also upload to youube then download their compressed video & upload it to c4s.
Sam38g
12-19-2017, 08:43 PM
Why not split the videos instead of decreasing the quality? you could also upload to youube then download their compressed video & upload it to c4s.
How does that work exactly with youtube?
Have you had much success doing it that way?
Now, once you upload it to youtube then don't they own the copyrights to it?
Even though you are new here, you speak like you have years of experience. Wonderful, how long have you been using C4S?
I shoot in 4k and if the video is only 12 min long, I should cut it in half??
Djoser
12-19-2017, 09:07 PM
Why not split the videos instead of decreasing the quality? you could also upload to youube then download their compressed video & upload it to c4s.
Not sure about the youtube thing, but I am quite sure a lot of customers would prefer higher quality video, so splitting a longer video into 'Part 1', 'Part 2', etc. would be the best way to go in their case, yes.
We have many multi part video series in our studio.
Kayden
12-20-2017, 11:28 PM
Why not split the videos instead of decreasing the quality? you could also upload to youube then download their compressed video & upload it to c4s.
It wasn't necessarily filesize issue (for which splitting in multiple files could apply) but rather hi res/hi bitrate suddenly starting to look like shit in a player where it was semi decent before.
BUT I think I found the culprit - overfilled HDD
recently I installed a new HDD for new video files but I never bothered to free up more space on my main one where system and program files are located (like 10 GB had left, basically 98%) then I deleted some stuff to get to almost 40 GB free and suddenly WMP had the smoothest playback in ages.
Btw, I also had your idea of downloading from Youtube to see if they have some super cool lossless compression but the downloader I tried (this Chrome extension called "fastesttube" I think? I disabled it lol) only offered me 720 as the highest.
I guess that is something one could experiment with (like using YT for some fancy compression) but I wouldn't really get too invested in it because I'm a firm believer that all the big sites use AI to detect nudity. I mean if AI can recognize which picture contains a dog I'm pretty sure it can recognize which picture contains ass/anus/boobs/dick head etc. (at least that's my impression after almost being banned from tumblr and google photos and the sheer speed that they detected it, no way humans were behind it)
anyways, it seems overfilled hdd can affect players' ability to play hd files
Tea4Me
01-01-2018, 10:43 AM
Happy New Year ladies! :-) Did any of you happen to read the new message in the admin? I don't know if I should be happy or scared.... lol I'm not going to post the whole message here because I don't know that Neil intended for them to be seen by those who aren't C4S producers (and everything we post here can be found by Google). Basically C4S is going to get totally revamped and they are asking our input.
fetishqueen
01-01-2018, 10:48 AM
Happy New Year ladies! :-) Did any of you happen to read the new message in the admin? I don't know if I should be happy or scared.... lol I'm not going to post the whole message here because I don't know that Neil intended for them to be seen by those who aren't C4S producers (and everything we post here can be found by Google). Basically C4S is going to get totally revamped and they are asking our input.
I just saw it yes! Hmm not sure either, although the site has a few issues and is a little dated in appearance I really like the setup and the fact that your product is your advert, meaning the more you upload the more visibility you should get. I hope they don't change it too much. :( The way it is now everybody has a chance to do well based on the effort they put in and it doesn't come down to some stupid popularity contest. Don't change it please Neil!!!
Happy New Year ladies! :-) Did any of you happen to read the new message in the admin? I don't know if I should be happy or scared.... lol I'm not going to post the whole message here because I don't know that Neil intended for them to be seen by those who aren't C4S producers (and everything we post here can be found by Google). Basically C4S is going to get totally revamped and they are asking our input.
I hope they end up merging all the redundant categories. That should have been done years ago.
justsometwat
01-01-2018, 12:17 PM
I do think it needs to look nicer but it they change too much on the front end they might scare away long time customers. People hate change especially older people!
Tea4Me
01-01-2018, 04:11 PM
Honestly I feel like....if it ain't broke don't fix it. Clips4Sale is the ORIGINAL clip site from which all the others copied from (some right down to the categories). It HAS the traffic and guys who are there to BUY clips, it has a history because they were the FIRST. They don't need to look flashy and pretty, they get the job done. Perhaps a few added features would be nice, but my concern is that if they overhaul the site, there are going to be glitches and inconveniences to US, the clip producers and perhaps the customers. And all for what? So it's more aesthetically pleasing?
Classy_Katy
01-01-2018, 04:13 PM
OMG...so long as we don't have to re-upload all of our clips on this new site!
Sam38g
01-02-2018, 12:07 AM
I don't see where they have a choice. The median age of porn buyers are NOT your old guys but 18 to 35 who will go to fresher newer sites to buy vids. While you have to keep your regular customers, you always have to be getting new buyers too.
There are several newer VOD sites that cater to the camgirl/content creators more so than C4s at this point in history & they are growing by leaps & bounds. While they maybe OG, lots of OG porn companies have gone under. They catered to the fetish crowd but AEBN, Hot Movies and several others existed for a long time too. Only they went after the big porn companies biz & paid a lesser percentage.
AEBN was registered in 2001.
HOtmovies was registered in 1996.
Clips4sale.com was registered in 2003
PixiieGirl
01-02-2018, 02:38 AM
I just hope the new site is gonna fit with new uk rules tbh
SophiaSylvan
01-02-2018, 12:57 PM
It sounds very new and uncertain. This is going to take years. I've heard how old and buggy the site is, so likely this is a necessity, but plenty of things were suggested to happen and nothing did so I'm not worried yet. I'm a bit concerned since whenever there is a slight change on the member or admin side we get tons of issues so if they're doing it while the site is still up we could be in for years of glitches...ugh.
MissJu
01-03-2018, 03:11 PM
It sounds very new and uncertain. This is going to take years. I've heard how old and buggy the site is, so likely this is a necessity, but plenty of things were suggested to happen and nothing did so I'm not worried yet. I'm a bit concerned since whenever there is a slight change on the member or admin side we get tons of issues so if they're doing it while the site is still up we could be in for years of glitches...ugh.
This is my concern too.
AlyssaJ
01-09-2018, 08:16 AM
I've been ill and busy with urgent family matters, so tomorrow it's 30 days since my last store update. I know I read somewhere you have to post a minimum of 1 clip/month but can't find that info now. What happens if you don't, do they close your store? I don't have time for clip making right now :/
SuperPookie
01-09-2018, 08:25 AM
I've been ill and busy with urgent family matters, so tomorrow it's 30 days since my last store update. I know I read somewhere you have to post a minimum of 1 clip/month but can't find that info now. What happens if you don't, do they close your store? I don't have time for clip making right now :/
From my understanding your store isn't closed but it won't show on the site until you upload a new clip so you won't be able to make any sales.
I could be wrong though
Classy_Katy
01-09-2018, 09:06 AM
I've been ill and busy with urgent family matters, so tomorrow it's 30 days since my last store update. I know I read somewhere you have to post a minimum of 1 clip/month but can't find that info now. What happens if you don't, do they close your store? I don't have time for clip making right now :/
I haven't been updating very often for a while now. All that happens is they don't show your store info, so customers won't see your email address if you include it there for customs. So when they land on your store page and scroll up to see your info, they will only see your store name. You can still make sales.
AlyssaJ
01-09-2018, 10:10 AM
Just in case, I posted a full HD version of an old clip, used to do those in 720x. Hopefully I'm back on track next month :)
Cam_Model_Jess
01-09-2018, 11:38 AM
I had a store I didn’t update for 2 years & still made sales.
AlyssaJ
01-10-2018, 02:43 PM
I had a store I didn’t update for 2 years & still made sales.
Cool! My sales are down to about half after a month without updates, compared to an average this past 6 months. Better than I had expected, but I'm sure I would not last 2 years or even close :D
SuperPookie
01-10-2018, 05:57 PM
It's so nice to be wrong in a good way :).
Tea4Me
01-10-2018, 09:12 PM
Um....is it just me or does C4S look a little messed up at the moment. The Newly Updated stores on the main page and categories only show one studio "S" or "3" or something strange like that.