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CatBBW
11-15-2018, 10:28 AM
What's happened to my C4S?! It suddenly shows I can't accept payments, and I'm unable to get into my C4S store admin????
Now getting server error: Server error: `GET http://internal-c4s-prod-scrotisha-int-1710542589.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com/studio/83151/lastpayoutdate` resulted in a `503 Backend fetch failed` response: Error 503 Backend (truncated...)
I guess it's them, not me. I was right in the middle of something, thought I'd been banned.
CatBBW
11-15-2018, 10:39 AM
Pretty much the whole site's gone now. No store admin, no clips in anyone's store.
Vlodina
11-15-2018, 02:50 PM
Oh, I finally heard back from c4s. They failed (human? technical fault?) to imput my email address hence I never got a Paxum email. It's now been dealt with and hopefully ok for next month.
MsConstrued
11-15-2018, 03:26 PM
Pretty much the whole site's gone now. No store admin, no clips in anyone's store.
I believe that the site went down at some point today, but it's back up now.
yumei
11-15-2018, 05:41 PM
Girls Have You got problems with upload files to your store now?
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-17-2018, 03:39 PM
I've got a few questions for other clips4sale store owners-
1. Have your sales this month (November) been extremely low compared to normal??
In regards to numbers, for my primary clip store (https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/126577/jdoe-strip-wrestling-federation) I release 1 new video per month.
Releasing anymore than that would simply canabalise my sales of each of them, thus I am limited to releasing just 1 new video per month, to keep them 'unique', rather than customers getting bored and losing interest.
But for the last 4-5 months since I launched my store I had been averaging 100 - 120 downloads per month (90% of them being the newly released video, although some new customers made multi-clip orders containing the previous clips too),
but with an average sales pace of 3-4 downloads per day, every day of the month.
However this month my sales have been extremely low!
I had standard amount of sales for the 1st few days after this latest clip was released (mainly sales to my core regular customers), but since then I've barely had any sales at all over these past 10days (literally been averaging just 1 sale per every 2-3days)!! :(
This ofcourse is extremely worrying, concerning, and frightening for me, as whilst it may just be the case that my customers don't like the look of the 2 girls in this month's video,
I am very worried incase fans have now just lose interest in the concept entirely! :/
But so I just wondered if many other people are also having a very bad sales rate this month compared to your normal?
2. How many views does your clip store typically get per day vs how many sales do you typically get per day
My clip store averages around 180 views per day, and was getting around 3-4 sales per day, so a views-to-sales conversion rate of approx 1 sale per every 50 views (so 2%).
It currently still has been getting that same average of 180 views per day, but over these past 2 weeks I've barely gotten any sales at all sadly. :(
But so I just wondered how many views does your clip store typically get per day & how many sales do you typically get per day?
3. Do you actually get any customer traffic directly from guys simply 'browsing the clips4sale site/catergory'?
My view is that no guy wants to pay for their porn, and so never starts their porn search on clips4sale,
instead they start it on google/pornhub, and endup on clips4sale when they find content which they want but have to pay to access.
Therefore I have a Pornhub brand-account, on which I release a promo trailer video each month for my newly released clip, along with a direct link to my clips4sale store; and I would estimate 90% of my clip-store hits are generated from customers discovering me via pornhub.
However given that so few other clip store owners seem to do this same method though, well I just shocks me why they don't, and how they manage to get any hits.
But so what percentage of your clipstore's traffic comes from guys simply browsing on the site itself?
4. And final question, do you also have clip stores on IWantClips and/or Manyvids too?
I personally do have an IWantClips store, however I find the website extremely slow & clunky, not to mention how messy it looks,
and so all of my sales have been coming from my clips4sale store (as that is the store for which I have a link to on my pornhub account).
(My IWC store does have 5 videos uploaded, but i've not marketted that store at all, so have only ever had 4 sales from there over the past 5months!)
I have also now this week launched my 2nd clip store brand (https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/134723/nappy-brats) too though.
This brand is POV verbal-humiliation clips, which seems to be the only type of clips which IWC hosts (wheras clips4sale has hundreds of different catergories),
but so as IWC seems to be so popular for verbal-humiliation clips I have been considering launching a clip store for this brand on there too, however am not sure if it'd be worth all the time and hassle, unless you do actually get traffic from people simply browsing that site,
without any external marketting directing them to there?
But so do you also use IWantClips and/or ManyVids? And if so how have you found your sales on there vs your sales on clips4sale?
AlyssaJ
11-18-2018, 10:29 AM
So I've been reading these comments about how categories dry up for some of you? (And when you say categories, I'm assuming we can say fetishes/categories, same thing).
I have had a totally different experience. And I wanted to add that to the conversation, because some lurkers/newbies can be reading this and think that's what to expect. Some fetishes I've been doing for *years* and I still have customers who buy those clips when I post new ones. Many of them customers who have been with me for years.
So when people come here and say this is happening to them, it makes me wonder what they are doing? Were the clip sales before from regular customers? Or not? And if they were from regular customers, are they still buying your other clips? Do you have fetishes that you still do consistently well with? Do you have a following? Can you look at your clips and do you have....a trademark style/niche? Or are your clips all over the place, as far as categories go? Did you start out with a kind of vision of what you wanted you and your clips store to be? Or were you just throwing spaghetti at the wall? Over the years have you tried to upgrade your clips, your equipment, your wardrobe, props, place where you shoot, etc?
I just don't see how......guys who know your personal style, LIKE it and regularly buy certain types of clips from you, just suddenly stop. Now I could maybe see it if it was a popular category that wasn't reflective of what you normally shoot and you were getting sales from customers who weren't your regulars, who maybe were just into that fetish. But your main fetishes...? I mean, I would think if you were doing them for years that you'd have a loyal following of guys that 'know' you for that particular fetish....?
I am happy to read it works out for you, that makes me want to continue trying. I have updated less and less often for half a year now, and of course that affects sales. Some regulars might get bored checking in on my store and finding nothing new. It's partly because of other work and some trouble with noise where I live, but also because the clips weren't selling as well anymore.
I'm still baffled though that my last clip didn't even increase hits for my store and it still hasn't sold even once, despite me e-mailing a bunch of guys that I know has that fetish. Some e-mails are probably invalid of course, but I got replies from two that they would buy it in the end of the month. But I feel really discouraged. It's like the clip is invisible. As I said, this type of clip usually goes straight to the top list. There used to be a bunch of that theme in the top list of the category (it's a sub theme of the category), but not flooded because they take some skill to make. But now that theme is totally gone, which makes me think there is a new forum or site with free content. This is of course only one example and I am very worried. I love making clips and I don't rely on it as an income, but if they continue to go by totally unnoticed I don't see the point making them. Some categories work for a while and then I switch. But this particular one I feel sad about because it's my main category, my main hobby and I've been in the top for two years - until now.
I do several categories that are somewhat related, and I've had a vision and a look from start. Since I've started I've gotten a bunch of e-mails saying they like my style and that I stand out. Some have been back for customs since my start two years ago. I haven't changed from my style, but have been trying new categories as well. I have most of the fetishes myself that I am shooting, so I don't randomly try out stuff - but there are lots of categories that fits. I make new versions of my previously popular clips, as well as coming up with unique scenarios.
I'm definitely not giving up, just venting. I thought I had it all figured out. But you just never know.
Iris Keenkade
11-18-2018, 10:34 AM
I noticed a dip this month as well. One thing I do is google myself and my niche every few days, and I've luckily not seen my content get pirated. Until this week. Several of my clips were on some pirate sites that I worked with C4S to get taken down, but I believe this is what caused my sales to dip.
I know piracy is always a constant battle, but it's my first time having to deal with it. I normally do 3-5 sales a day, and have been doing 0-2 these last couple of weeks, even with hits staying about the same (150-250 hits/day).
lilly90xxx
11-18-2018, 02:36 PM
I've got a few questions for other clips4sale store owners-
1. Have your sales this month (November) been extremely low compared to normal??
In regards to numbers, for my primary clip store (https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/126577/jdoe-strip-wrestling-federation) I release 1 new video per month.
Releasing anymore than that would simply canabalise my sales of each of them, thus I am limited to releasing just 1 new video per month, to keep them 'unique', rather than customers getting bored and losing interest.
But for the last 4-5 months since I launched my store I had been averaging 100 - 120 downloads per month (90% of them being the newly released video, although some new customers made multi-clip orders containing the previous clips too),
but with an average sales pace of 3-4 downloads per day, every day of the month.
However this month my sales have been extremely low!
I had standard amount of sales for the 1st few days after this latest clip was released (mainly sales to my core regular customers), but since then I've barely had any sales at all over these past 10days (literally been averaging just 1 sale per every 2-3days)!! :(
This ofcourse is extremely worrying, concerning, and frightening for me, as whilst it may just be the case that my customers don't like the look of the 2 girls in this month's video,
I am very worried incase fans have now just lose interest in the concept entirely! :/
But so I just wondered if many other people are also having a very bad sales rate this month compared to your normal?
2. How many views does your clip store typically get per day vs how many sales do you typically get per day
My clip store averages around 180 views per day, and was getting around 3-4 sales per day, so a views-to-sales conversion rate of approx 1 sale per every 50 views (so 2%).
It currently still has been getting that same average of 180 views per day, but over these past 2 weeks I've barely gotten any sales at all sadly. :(
But so I just wondered how many views does your clip store typically get per day & how many sales do you typically get per day?
3. Do you actually get any customer traffic directly from guys simply 'browsing the clips4sale site/catergory'?
My view is that no guy wants to pay for their porn, and so never starts their porn search on clips4sale,
instead they start it on google/pornhub, and endup on clips4sale when they find content which they want but have to pay to access.
Therefore I have a Pornhub brand-account, on which I release a promo trailer video each month for my newly released clip, along with a direct link to my clips4sale store; and I would estimate 90% of my clip-store hits are generated from customers discovering me via pornhub.
However given that so few other clip store owners seem to do this same method though, well I just shocks me why they don't, and how they manage to get any hits.
But so what percentage of your clipstore's traffic comes from guys simply browsing on the site itself?
4. And final question, do you also have clip stores on IWantClips and/or Manyvids too?
I personally do have an IWantClips store, however I find the website extremely slow & clunky, not to mention how messy it looks,
and so all of my sales have been coming from my clips4sale store (as that is the store for which I have a link to on my pornhub account).
(My IWC store does have 5 videos uploaded, but i've not marketted that store at all, so have only ever had 4 sales from there over the past 5months!)
I have also now this week launched my 2nd clip store brand (https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/134723/nappy-brats) too though.
This brand is POV verbal-humiliation clips, which seems to be the only type of clips which IWC hosts (wheras clips4sale has hundreds of different catergories),
but so as IWC seems to be so popular for verbal-humiliation clips I have been considering launching a clip store for this brand on there too, however am not sure if it'd be worth all the time and hassle, unless you do actually get traffic from people simply browsing that site,
without any external marketting directing them to there?
But so do you also use IWantClips and/or ManyVids? And if so how have you found your sales on there vs your sales on clips4sale?
Girl! I wish I can upload once a month and still get quite nice money...but if it's not working for you anymore...
Depending of a month I am uploading from 15 to 30 clips to my store, my average hits are between 400-700, but it definitely is not relating to my sales...sometimes I have 700 hits and one sale, my average was always about 3 sales a day ( and at least once a week, especially on weekends it happens to be 5-7 sales in one day),but at least once a month I always have some big spender, which helps me reach my monthly goal ( mostly :P) And I also make customs, so it all adds up.
If it matters I am not showing nudity, I play more innocent and sweet role. Also, I am nowhere near that categories that are trendy right now ( findom, femdom, bbw etc). Every month I am in top 50 (mostly I am in top 10) in my most categories, but since they are not some big money makers ( like lips fetish) I guess I will never be making more than 900$ a month.
If I look into my stats I can see I have a lot of traffic from guys browsing categories, then guys typing what they look for on the main site. Sometimes but very rarely I see some traffic from fetish forums.
I was complaining here a couple days ago about low sales but it starts to pick up...slowly but constantly.
I also have IWC store, but it's really slow for me. I earn there about 150$ every two months. But since I upload the clips that I already have I don't mind.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-18-2018, 04:07 PM
I noticed a dip this month as well. One thing I do is google myself and my niche every few days, and I've luckily not seen my content get pirated. Until this week. Several of my clips were on some pirate sites that I worked with C4S to get taken down, but I believe this is what caused my sales to dip.
I know piracy is always a constant battle, but it's my first time having to deal with it. I normally do 3-5 sales a day, and have been doing 0-2 these last couple of weeks, even with hits staying about the same (150-250 hits/day).
Yes I do check online every 1-2 weeks but none of my full length videos are pirated & released online.
Thankfully my tier-1 core customer base is quite loyal.
I'm sorry to hear you got pirated though! :(
But ah ok, well I guess it just must of been that most of my customers didn't find the 2 girls in my lastest-month's video attractive, and so didn't want to buy the video.. :/
Glad to findout some info about the hits / sales numbers that other people get though,
as I never knew how good or bad was my previous averages of 150-200 hits per day / 3 sales per day.
Just out of curiousity how much do you promote your clip store online to drive traffic to your store?
Or do you actually really get any organic traffic off the site itself?
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-18-2018, 04:23 PM
Girl! I wish I can upload once a month and still get quite nice money...but if it's not working for you anymore...
Depending of a month I am uploading from 15 to 30 clips to my store, my average hits are between 400-700, but it definitely is not relating to my sales...sometimes I have 700 hits and one sale, my average was always about 3 sales a day ( and at least once a week, especially on weekends it happens to be 5-7 sales in one day),but at least once a month I always have some big spender, which helps me reach my monthly goal ( mostly :P) And I also make customs, so it all adds up.
If it matters I am not showing nudity, I play more innocent and sweet role. Also, I am nowhere near that categories that are trendy right now ( findom, femdom, bbw etc). Every month I am in top 50 (mostly I am in top 10) in my most categories, but since they are not some big money makers ( like lips fetish) I guess I will never be making more than 900$ a month.
If I look into my stats I can see I have a lot of traffic from guys browsing categories, then guys typing what they look for on the main site. Sometimes but very rarely I see some traffic from fetish forums.
I was complaining here a couple days ago about low sales but it starts to pick up...slowly but constantly.
I also have IWC store, but it's really slow for me. I earn there about 150$ every two months. But since I upload the clips that I already have I don't mind.
Wow how on earth can you upload 15-30 clips per month, and yet still actually get downloads for each one, not have them just over-load & flood your store?
My clips are all basically the exact same 'setup & storyline' though, of that 2 (or 4) girls have a wrestling match where to win one of them has to strip her opponent naked, strap her in a nappy, then pin her for a 10second count.
I ofcourse have different clothing for each girl for each clip, a large mix of different girls, and add in various fetish extras such as spankings/wedgies/'tits milking'/facesitting/tying-up with bras + gagging with panties/humiliation verbal... ect To try keeping each clip new and fresh;
But ultimately all of them are basically the exact same premise and outcome ''That the 2 girls will strip eachother naked, then one will manage to tieup/diaper/and pin her opponent to win the match''.
But so I do worry incase customers get bored of that after 9-10 matches... :(
(I know with football matches they are all the same, yet guys seem to never get bored of watching 1000s of them, same with boxing matches, so I do try to style my brand as a 'sports brand', not a porn store; but I am very concerned).
Sadly if I do start uploading 2 or more clips per month though they would just canalise eachother (and my sales quantity of each), even though my end total of sales would potentially be higher.
But as all of my clips are studio produced, and featuring professional models, each clip (10mins length) costs me $200 - $300 to produce,
and so I need to earn that much money in net profit per each video just to break-even!
I have my POV femdom clips which I will upload to IWC, however wasn't sure if these clip stores do actually get any traffic (that wouldn't also be searched by them on pornhub too)?
As for me Pornhub is what generates 90% of my traffic, as I post 1minute preview clips on there, with a link to my c4s if the guy wants to purchase the full length version.
Without pornhub I would only get like 10 hits per day! :/
Wow how on earth can you upload 15-30 clips per month, and yet still actually get downloads for each one, not have them just over-load & flood your store?
I put up 15 unique clips a month. I also get anywhere between 1000 to 2000 hits daily on my store. I also make clips in many different categories so putting up a new clip every other day doesn't over load and flood my store, it just gives people options. Also by having so much content on my store (about 800 unique clips and counting) I can get big orders with some customers buying 5 to 20 clips in an order. You're making 12 clips a year so that's really killing your earnings potential because you don't have many clips on your store. I don't believe that putting up more clips cannibalizes the sales of other clips on your store, I think it would actually create more traffic from within Clips4sale and increase your sales. I can tell you that every month about 50% of my sales are clips that are a years old or over. I think that by making so few clips yearly that you're hurting yourself more than helping yourself.
MissAdriana
11-18-2018, 04:58 PM
1. Have your sales this month (November) been extremely low compared to normal??
But so I just wondered if many other people are also having a very bad sales rate this month compared to your normal?
2. How many views does your clip store typically get per day vs how many sales do you typically get per day
3. Do you actually get any customer traffic directly from guys simply 'browsing the clips4sale site/catergory'?
Yes and yes! For me the more I upload the more I make but this month it is not the case. It is usually the more I upload the better regardless of what category. My hits are completely different every day and every month. But upload days are usually 100-300 hits and 1 sale. Every other day (without an upload) is less than 100 hits. I need at least 100 hits to get a sale usually HOWEVER if I get "1 sale" they usually buy multiple clips at once.
3. YES! A lot of people do have me favorited/bookmarked so I get hits from that also specific searches but a lot of sales come from people browsing categories.
Right now I'm just trying to be consistent and upload as much as possible in my best selling categories while trying out a couple random new ones for fun. I also went through and removed clips that have never sold and trying to sell them on other sites instead to see if they do better.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-18-2018, 04:59 PM
I put up 15 unique clips a month. I also get anywhere between 1000 to 2000 hits daily on my store. I also make clips in many different categories so putting up a new clip every other day doesn't over load and flood my store, it just gives people options. Also by having so much content on my store (about 800 unique clips and counting) I can get big orders with some customers buying 5 to 20 clips in an order. You're making 12 clips a year so that's really killing your earnings potential because you don't have many clips on your store. I don't believe that putting up a more clips cannibalizes the sales of other clips on your store, I think it would actually create more traffic from within Clips4sale and increase your sales. I can tell you that every month about 50% of my sales are clips that are a years old or over. I think that by making so few clips yearly that you're hurting yourself more than helping yourself.
Ok well I will follow your advice and try releasing 2 clips per month for the next 2-3 months, and see how it goes. :)
All of my clips are basically the exact same storyline & style though (due to what they are), and so sadly I can't differentiate into different catergories, as they are all 'female wrestling' clips.
You get 1,000 - 2,000 hits per day though?!?
How much off-site promotion and advertising of your store do you do?
Also please can I ask what the name of your store is? :)
(Just out of curiosity to see how you are making your clips get so many hits)
Thankyou
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-18-2018, 05:05 PM
Yes and yes! For me the more I upload the more I make but this month it is not the case. It is usually the more I upload the better regardless of what category. My hits are completely different every day and every month. But upload days are usually 100-300 hits and 1 sale. Every other day (without an upload) is less than 100 hits. I need at least 100 hits to get a sale usually HOWEVER if I get "1 sale" they usually buy multiple clips at once.
3. YES! A lot of people do have me favorited/bookmarked so I get hits from that also specific searches but a lot of sales come from people browsing categories.
Right now I'm just trying to be consistent and upload as much as possible in my best selling categories while trying out a couple random new ones for fun. I also went through and removed clips that have never sold and trying to sell them on other sites instead to see if they do better.
Aw ok, well atleast I'm not alone in having an extremely low sales November!
I am still shocked at how people are able to upload so many clips,
although I guess if you self-perform + self-shoot, so have no actual production costs, you can literally produce as much as you want, whenever you want, without any loss of money if you make not many/no sales of a certain video.
Wheras I personally need approx 19-20 sales per video just to break-even and cover the cost of production!
(I price all my clips at $17.99 - $21.99 though (for 9- 10minute clips), but am now making sure the durations when being performed are stretched out to 12/13mins).
What is the name of your clip store if you don't mind me asing, just out of curiosity? :)
My 2 are-
(https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/126577/jdoe-strip-wrestling-federation & https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/134723/nappy-brats)
Ok well I will follow your advice and try releasing 2 clips per month for the next 2-3 months, and see how it goes. :)
All of my clips are basically the exact same storyline & style though (due to what they are), and so sadly I can't differentiate into different catergories, as they are all 'female wrestling' clips.
You get 1,000 - 2,000 hits per day though?!?
How much off-site promotion and advertising of your store do you do?
Also please can I ask what the name of your store is? :)
(Just out of curiosity to see how you are making your clips get so many hits)
Thankyou
I do put up edited clips on Tube sites and that's the bulk of my advertising and promotion. Before I did that I was getting 400 to 800 hits a day on my store.
Tea4Me
11-18-2018, 05:58 PM
I am still shocked at how people are able to upload so many clips,
although I guess if you self-perform + self-shoot, so have no actual production costs, you can literally produce as much as you want, whenever you want, without any loss of money if you make not many/no sales of a certain video.
BINGO.
Have a look at the Top 50 studios on main page at C4S. You'll see that most of them update 15+ times a month and many of those studios are consistently on that list.
Iris Keenkade
11-18-2018, 11:06 PM
Yes I do check online every 1-2 weeks but none of my full length videos are pirated & released online.
Thankfully my tier-1 core customer base is quite loyal.
I'm sorry to hear you got pirated though! :(
But ah ok, well I guess it just must of been that most of my customers didn't find the 2 girls in my lastest-month's video attractive, and so didn't want to buy the video.. :/
Glad to findout some info about the hits / sales numbers that other people get though,
as I never knew how good or bad was my previous averages of 150-200 hits per day / 3 sales per day.
Just out of curiousity how much do you promote your clip store online to drive traffic to your store?
Or do you actually really get any organic traffic off the site itself?
I mainly promote on reddit and instagram. I have about 3,000 followers on reddit, posting 1-3x a week there. I have about ~850 instagram followers as well, I try to announce my releases there and push to my link page in my bio.
A lot of my traffic is organic, 50%+. I also have great set of regulars that will usually purchase my content within 24 hours of it being posted. I have ManyVids and IWC as well, though they tend to do rather poorly in comparison to C4S, at least in my niche. I do about 1 free video a month on the tubes, and have been toying around with releasing some teasers/trailers there as well.
Classy_Katy
11-19-2018, 01:49 AM
When I had more time for filming clips, I was uploading daily and at weekends sometimes twice a day. My income was growing nicely each month. I would upload to my best selling categories once my last clip had left the carousel at the top of the category (it held fewer back then), so I always had a clip visible. In the meantime I uploaded to other categories I sold in and new ones too.
MxtressValleycat
11-19-2018, 08:02 AM
Echoing most other people I tend to find the more I upload, the more I sell. I did really well in October because I managed to upload every day (also my Halloween clips tend to be good little earners all year because it turns out everybody loves a goth ;p), I don't have the spoons to upload every day all the time (and I did get pretty burnt out towards the end of October), but usually I'm uploading three times a week at least.
Edited to add: I met someone earlier this year who is often in a lot of the top sellers for fetish categories on c4s who told me similar, upload as much as possible and sales will come easier.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-19-2018, 11:34 AM
Thanks for all the replies girls. :)
Sadly for me / my clip store's theme uploading more than 2 clips per month simply wouldn't be beneficial though,
as because all my clips are the same style & storyline, any more than 2 clips per month and they would start to canablise eachother's sales + cause viewers to get abit bored with them, rather than the concept of my clips remaining fresh and unique. :/
But I am going to increase from releasing 1 clip per month upto 2 clips per month, and see how that goes profit-wise for me. :)
One thing which is really worrying me alot, plus also confusing me though, is that why i've made literally zero sales in the past 5days, even though all my previously uploaded clips are still there and available for purchase, and I'm still getting the same 180 average hits per day like I have been for all the previous months...?? :-\
As I get it that if guys don't like the 2 girls in my November uploaded clip, well that clip wouldn't sell much;
But I do still have 5 other clips available too (3 of those clips made it into the top 20 most popular list on the entire site within their 1st week of upload / and each of them got over 100 downloads within their 1st month),
and so I would of thought that whilst customers may not like the look of the girls in my latest released clip much, well they would still be buying my previously uploaded clips though....
But as none of my clips are selling, despite me getting the same number of hits as normal, is that either its literally just the exact same 150-180 guys checking my store every single day in the hope of seeing a newly released clip (and they've all already bought all the previous ones which they wanted),
or I've just been extremely unlucky this month is that all of the 1,000+ new customers who've viewed my store this week, directed there from having watched my preview videos on Pornhub, simply have not been interested in actually buying any of my videos! :-\
I am uploading a new clip tomorrow (it takes approx 1-2hours for me to edit each clip / then 6-8hours to process it from .WMV back into .MP4 format via a professional editing program which maintains the bitrate quality even when converting / then 2-3hours duration for it to upload onto my Clip Store)! :-X
But hopefully that will jump-start my sales back to their normal levels again.
MsConstrued
11-19-2018, 11:36 AM
I'm going to echo the same. Quantity over quality. It's much easier as I'm the producer and model for all my content. I can have an idea, film it, edit it, upload it all on my own and on the same day. The more, the merrier. Gets more hits, more visuals, and thus more sales overall. I don't keep with 1 category either. Always change it up. And I'd forgotten and was recently reminded thanks to Amberly's recent video about "slow moving" categories. C4s is great because it shows the date a clip was added. So take some time to go thru all the relevant categories on the site and see when the oldest clip is on there. You'll find some categories are days while others are YEARS. I always make sure to have 1 in the old categories so they'll always be seen without me having to update it for months.
SophiaSylvan
11-19-2018, 03:17 PM
Jessica sometimes it is site or server issues, I suspect, that cause irregularities in sales when views are normal and you seem to know what you're doing regarding your content. If you could think of another sub category for your niche, and film more of that, it couldn't hurt to include it to your store and add some more variety. Ideally quality AND quantity is helpful to success in c4s, then some top stores are able to release less as they become more visible. If you're going to add another upload, Jessica, I would try another related niche. Another kind of contest or game, another nappy thing, another wrestling thing, I'm sure are you can come with alternate concepts that will keep customers coming back.
Classy_Katy
11-20-2018, 08:40 AM
When I was uploading daily, I wasn't doing that to my best selling categories, only when my last clip in that category was no longer visible in the carousel. You don't want to upload too frequently in that one category but it is worthwhile uploading in others.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-20-2018, 03:12 PM
Jessica sometimes it is site or server issues, I suspect, that cause irregularities in sales when views are normal and you seem to know what you're doing regarding your content. If you could think of another sub category for your niche, and film more of that, it couldn't hurt to include it to your store and add some more variety. Ideally quality AND quantity is helpful to success in c4s, then some top stores are able to release less as they become more visible. If you're going to add another upload, Jessica, I would try another related niche. Another kind of contest or game, another nappy thing, another wrestling thing, I'm sure are you can come with alternate concepts that will keep customers coming back.
Hello and thanks for your reply. :)
My store's actual theme is ''Entertaining Humiliation'', not nappy-fetish at all, as none of my clips are remotely adult-babyish as that's just cringey;
so I instead script them all as being 'entertaining humiliation' of 2 girls catfighting eachother in a bitchy bratty reality-TV style way, and stripping eachother in the process to try humiliating eachother (as all guys are into 2 girls having a strip catfight!) lol
The nappy element is simply to add to the humiliation, and to make my clips unique and different vs the hundreds of thousands of reguar 'strip catfight' videos out there.
(And it clearly did work, as 4 of my clips made it into the top 50 list of the entire c4s, with 2 of them making it into the top 20 list)
But so yeah I have been wondering if there has been some kind of site processor glitch which has prevented guys from buying my clips these last 2 weeks?
(I did get 1 sale of my new video yesterday, plus had 2-3 sales during these past 2weeks, but it is a 90% crash vs the past 4months average of daily/weely sales, but yet I am still getting the same number of hits per day as I was previously just no sales, so it does seem extremely odd!) /:O
Not sure what could be causing a glitch exactly though, if that is what it is??
In regards to new ideas I would love to expand to doing catfight storyline scenes, such as a girl catches another in bed with her bf so she strips/panty-gags/ties/diapers/then kicks her out the house... ect (but in a frantic entertaining themed way)
Plus am also planning on recreating various catfights from movies such as the one from the Carry on Girls film, but with this twist.
However I'm extremely scared of committing any fresh money if theres a technical issue/or just no interest anymore with sales of these... :/
And I am genuinley concerned that this could likely be a technical error, as it just doesn't make sense that ive been getting the same 180-200 hits per day, everyday, like I had for all the past 4months, but yet had a 95% crash in sales, despite hits remaining normal. :(
I did upload a new clip this morning, but it's not sold any yet. :/
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One question I've got in regards to listing in different catergories though,
I have tried to look myself but cant seem to find a clear answer, but how exactly does listing certain clips in different catergories impact my store's visbility overall?
And also if I listed all my clips in the same main catergory 'female wrestling', but for example as secondary catergories listed it in 'spanking, fantasy wrestling, and catfighting',
will my studio actually then have a chance of showing up in the top 50 studios list for those catergories, or is it only for the primary catergory?
I did list the clip today in a different catergory to normal, and saw my studio's name in that catergory's top 50 list after that, but wasn't sure if that was only because I listed that as the primary catergory?
Classy_Katy
11-20-2018, 11:57 PM
It improves visibility to upload to different categories. When you upload a clip to one category and select the related categories, it doesn't show in those related categories too, it just shows in your store when customers look for those categories. You need to upload different versions of the same clip into different categories to increase your exposure, you can use WMV and MP4, and two file sizes for each of those formats.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-21-2018, 02:07 AM
It improves visibility to upload to different categories. When you upload a clip to one category and select the related categories, it doesn't show in those related categories too, it just shows in your store when customers look for those categories. You need to upload different versions of the same clip into different categories to increase your exposure, you can use WMV and MP4, and two file sizes for each of those formats.
Thankyou for clarifying that for me. :)
And I have followed your advice by now changing a few of my clip's primary category to being different categories (such as fantasy wrestling / catfighting / embarrassed nude female), to give my store exposure in those categories too. :)
Moreover I have decided that to try re-boot my sales pace I am going to list all my clips from both my c4s clip stores onto iwantclips too, to increase my exposure slightly (but also to offer customers two purchase platforms.
Am going to list all my previews onto xvideos.com too (in addition to pornhub) to hopefully double my exposure and therefore double my clip store hits. :)
As my full length freebie clip that I put on pornhub last month got over 20thousand views within its 1st 6days of being on there, and my clip store sales were excellent last month too, and each preview clip that I post onto pornhub gets 2,000 hits in week 1, then 100+ per day on going afterwards, so hopefully xvideos listing will boost my store's exposure.
I'm also going to promote my store on various fetish forum websites too, to help make my target customers aware of my brand. :)
I have looked at my main category 'female wrestling', but for this month the top 20 clips & studios have all been the very 'rough physical competitive brutal' matches...
But so if that has been what most people's taste has been this month, well I guess that's why my sales have been low.
Classy_Katy
11-21-2018, 03:45 AM
I would be careful when joining fetish forums - from what I've seen, they do not like being sold to on there. It's their forum for their fetish and I've seen girls attacked for just treating them as a potential source of income and it really pisses people off having for sale threads pop up rather than threads about their fetish. The best thing is to join as a fellow fetistist, as your clip making self, with links to your store if they allow them but do not actually target and sell directly to them.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-22-2018, 03:41 AM
One major question that I've got for all you ladies who upload more than 1-2 new clips every week/month-
If your store is anything like mine, I have a core base of 15-20 guys who love the specific niche fetish-style which I produce for, and so they buy every single video which I release, every month.
(Then I have various new guys who make 1-time/1-off purchases, but who aren't monthly regulars).
My question to you though is that an extremely low percentage if guys are even willing to pay for porn,
and the few who are, well they will only have a certain amount of spare money each month which they are willing/able to afford to spend on porn videos.
If your videos cost $20 each for example,
well most average guy's maximum budget for porn would be around $40 per month.
But so if you release 10 videos per month, how on earth do you not simply endup in a situation where your core circle of customers (who would of bought every of those videos) now only selects their favourite 1-2 of them,
but so the other 8-9 videos EACH miss out on 20 downloads (so 160-180 sales total) which other wise would've been guaranteed??
SophiaSylvan
11-22-2018, 06:31 AM
Hey Jessica, it's because we cast a wide net. It is simply a different approach. I have about 10-15 different categories I cater to, and two stores. I update in total an average 15-30 new clips a month. I'm a switch and I have guys who like me as a sub, as a domme, for my fetish clothing, for certain niches. I have a diverse following from many years spent as a cam performer as well. I felt out the demand for certain fetishes and yes, most will only purchase 1-2 in their favourite category per month. I don't post more than 1-2x per month in my categories. I simply have a fairly broad customer base, and I assume this is the same for many performer-studio owners. It can be helpful for many to niche out and that is a great business model since it is easier to market and brand. I've trimmed down the kinks I do greatly over the years and some things come and go. Personally I would get bored only making one kind of content, and I prefer it this way. But at times I wish I had an extremely focused, niche approach, which I think would also benefit from the ol' paysite model allowing great focus and fans to find all the content they want (if piracy wasn't such an issue).
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-22-2018, 03:17 PM
Hey Jessica, it's because we cast a wide net. It is simply a different approach. I have about 10-15 different categories I cater to, and two stores. I update in total an average 15-30 new clips a month. I'm a switch and I have guys who like me as a sub, as a domme, for my fetish clothing, for certain niches. I have a diverse following from many years spent as a cam performer as well. I felt out the demand for certain fetishes and yes, most will only purchase 1-2 in their favourite category per month. I don't post more than 1-2x per month in my categories. I simply have a fairly broad customer base, and I assume this is the same for many performer-studio owners. It can be helpful for many to niche out and that is a great business model since it is easier to market and brand. I've trimmed down the kinks I do greatly over the years and some things come and go. Personally I would get bored only making one kind of content, and I prefer it this way. But at times I wish I had an extremely focused, niche approach, which I think would also benefit from the ol' paysite model allowing great focus and fans to find all the content they want (if piracy wasn't such an issue).
Ahhh thanks for your such clear explanation! :)
It now makes sense how some of your girls are releasing 10-20 clips per month without them canabalising eachother's sales!
I had previously thought that when everyone says they upload most days they meant the exact same style & theme of clip everyday,
didn't think that lots of ladies do cover multiple different fetishes all within the same 1 store. :)
My own sales have also picked-up again quite abit for these past 2 days too btw. :)
(Made 11 sales yesterday, from 230 hits)
My new clip has been slow, however I expected that from this clip as the girls did a feeble job, and so I highlighted that in my description + reduced the sale price by 25%.
But my 2 previosuly released top selling clips (the 2 that made it into the top 20 list on the entire site when they were released) are back to bringing in daily sales, and so my weekly total of sales is reasonable, even though it's skewed massively towards those 2 old clips.
Thankyou so so much for all the advice and tips that you girls provided though, some of it was very useful! :)
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-23-2018, 10:26 PM
One little question, not related to clips4sale as such, instead about iwantclips-
On both sites they list the ''top 50'' clips, and on c4s that is a genuine true list showing the clips which have actually recieved the highest number of downloads over the past 1-2days.
However on iwantclips their 'top 100' list just looks like it's totally and utterly fake, lies, (and so actually fraudlent), by iwantclips themselves...!! >:(
As whenever you look at that list, almost all of the top 20 clips listed are clips which cost $400 - £600!!
I get that IWC themselves 'wish' that those clips were genuinely the ones which had the highest number of downloads (as they would make IWC highest commission),
but the reality is that most of those clips have never ever actually recieved a single download due to their absurd prices!
(As lets face it, most guys wont even pay $10 for a porn clip, they can have actual real-life wild kinky sex with a domme for $200, and so no-one would ever pay over $200 just for a 5min femdom clip!)
But so is there actually a genuine list anywhere which shows what the true, genuine, actual most downloaded clips that day/week were on IWC though please?
laurielegs
11-23-2018, 11:08 PM
I don't think there's a list like that, but it's better to focus on what works for you and doing as many quality clips as you can.
I know it's hard to believe but guys will pay a lot, way more than $10, but it has to be something unique that caters to their particular fetish. Keep innovating and changing and try out different categories. It will pay off in time.
Iwantclips has a lot of dommes and there are wealthy submissive guys who can and do spend a LOT.
When I first started there I saw some putting markup codes where guys would pay double instead of a discount code and I thought it was some kind of joke. I put a markup code on one of my best selling most unique clips and sure enough about half the guys who bought it actually used the code and I collected double money on those sales.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-23-2018, 11:33 PM
I don't think there's a list like that, but it's better to focus on what works for you and doing as many quality clips as you can.
I know it's hard to believe but guys will pay a lot, way more than $10, but it has to be something unique that caters to their particular fetish. Keep innovating and changing and try out different categories. It will pay off in time.
Iwantclips has a lot of dommes and there are wealthy submissive guys who can and do spend a LOT.
When I first started there I saw some putting markup codes where guys would pay double instead of a discount code and I thought it was some kind of joke. I put a markup code on one of my best selling most unique clips and sure enough about half the guys who bought it actually used the code and I collected double money on those sales.
Oh wow that is extremely shocking!! :O
I personally think the IWC site layout is shit compared to C4S, as in descriptions you cannot paragraph anything on IWC, plus it looks messy, cluttered, and clunky!!
But so whilst I direct all my customers to my c4s store (https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/134723/nappy-brats), I have now also setup an IWC one too, just to see if it gets any traffic directly from the site.
Am extremely shocked that guys do actually have that much spare money which they are willing to spend on very bland basic videos (just showing the girl getting her tits & ass out / or videos of just a plain black screen with the word 'you are a loser' written on it);
when they could get an actual domme do that in real life to them for cheaper than the clip itself! LOL
But as my IWC store is a domme/humiliation store, which also caters to a specific very popular niche, but in a style which no other studios do (https://iwantclips.com/store/602513/Nappy-Brats) hopefully I will also get some sales via IWC too. :)
MxtressValleycat
11-24-2018, 03:29 AM
I think the thing to keep in mind (and one of the reasons that it's worth being on multiple sites) is that different clipsites attract different customers. C4S has quite a wide net of general fetishists, IWC does have an increasing number of them (though there was that wobble a couple of month back), but has quite a big following of people who are into findom, I did a findom clip to see how it would perform expecting nothing and it sold a copy pretty much instantly on IWC, I don't think their top 50 is fake, I just think that the algorithm is different to C4S.
C4S's Top fifty is based on most sales in a set period, IWC's I'm pretty sure is based on most spent rather than most sales, hence if a hugely famous findom sells two or three clips at a massive price then they are rocketed to the top of the charts.
I also feel you probably aren't helping yourself by constantly having the "men don't want to pay for porn" attitude, you're in a forum full of people who basically prove otherwise. Yes we all wish more people would pay for their porn, but I actually feel like we're starting to see an upturn again, and also while most of my sales are to men, I'm seeing an increasing number of women and people outside of the gender binary buying my clips, which is great in my opinion. I got a bit side tracked there, but what I was trying to say is, while it might sound a little bit like "woo" a positive attitude can really help (there is a huge thread on the Law of Attraction on here which could be beneficial), as if you project confidence you do sell more, I've noticed a huge upsurge in sales since I started to be more positive about my clips, and more publicly thankful about the sales. I make a fuss of the subs that buy my clips on Twitter, other subs see them getting attention and they want it too, so they go buy my clips. I realise we're not in the same niche, but perhaps you could come up with a similar marketing strategy?
justsometwat
11-24-2018, 05:40 AM
One customer on iwc spent $30,000 on me in 4ish visits. He's the reason why I bought a house. I've been in their top 100, had many top selling videos, and most of my most loyal fans use mark up codes.
I'd suggest you focus on your sales and what you do, not everyone else or you'll be miserable.
Tea4Me
11-24-2018, 08:46 AM
(As lets face it, most guys wont even pay $10 for a porn clip, they can have actual real-life wild kinky sex with a domme for $200, and so no-one would ever pay over $200 just for a 5min femdom clip!)
"Most" guys won't, but there most certainly are guys that will and do and HAVE paid larges amounts for short clips. ;-) (Yes, speaking from experience).
Tea4Me
11-24-2018, 08:51 AM
Am extremely shocked that guys do actually have that much spare money which they are willing to spend on very bland basic videos (just showing the girl getting her tits & ass out / or videos of just a plain black screen with the word 'you are a loser' written on it);
when they could get an actual domme do that in real life to them for cheaper than the clip itself! LOL
Your opinion and you are entitled to it, but it sounds rather judgy and critcial of other clip producers and their content.
Some guys like to be ripped off. Some guys feel they don't deserve anything. Some guys like to buy all of the clips a Domme makes. And some guys just like to spend and like the thrill of that.
justsometwat
11-24-2018, 02:37 PM
I think people forget that not everyone wants to actually act out their fantasies in real life. I am very dominant in my videos and real life, but I like to fantasize about being dominated. I've tried it with my partner but it was definitely not for me. This can be said for people into incest. Not all people that watch incest porn want to fuck their families, it's a fantasy. Sure, for the cost of some of these videos the customer could see a domme in person but they might enjoy the fantasy and roleplay alone but not like it with a domme in person. Maybe they have spouses or girlfriends/boyfriends and cannot do real time or maybe they don't even know where to go to do a real time session.
C4S has tons of content of all categories so it brings in all kinds of people. When you hit up a lot categories then you will get a lot more eyes on you and your store than just sticking to a couple categories.
IWC has a ton of dommes so the best selling categories are usually female domination centered videos. More "vanilla" centered videos sell there as well, but not really on their own.
ManyVids has a lot of cosplay, taboo, vanilla & fetish videos, so femdom/findom doesn't always do well there, though they are bringing more attention to the fetish side of the site.
(I realized after typing this that I said the same thing Mxstress said! Sorry, should have kept reading!)
It's just how it goes on some of these sites. It's not an odd concept, it's just about what kind of customers visit those sites and when.
I film, star in, edit, and upload all of my own videos. I price them between $10 - $500. I sell custom videos and do no offer any phone or cam sessions, but it's how I make my living. I can reasonably live on my own income though I have my spouses income as well. If people didn't pay for porn then I wouldn't still be doing this. It's been 7 years and I am still going strong. I am glad people are willing to pay for my videos and some buy almost every video I put out. One customer pays for a custom then when the video goes live to everyone else he buys it again. No idea why he always does this, but he does. It can be a crapshoot for those findom videos but they can sell and do sell for a lot of those top models on some sites.
MsConstrued
11-24-2018, 03:57 PM
I just want to add that most of our customers also genuinely want to support us. Many customers/fans understand that in order for us to make more of what they love then this has to be a viable income source. Most of us are independent producers with no studio or backing. It's just us in our bedrooms or spare rooms with camera equipment bought off Amazon with giftcards. But I love the fact that sites like C4S are arund and I'm able to do such a thing for myself. C4S in particular is very good about supporting ALL stores, too. Not just the top selling or huge studios. They supported me going to Exxxotica with them this year and I had an amazing time. Darius and Becky also did a few seminars that were insightful and inspiring. They are extremely open and willing to help everyone.
Oh and I noticed earlier a comment on iWC not being able to "paragraph". Actually you can.. you have to use <br> codes. I use <br><br> to make a new paragraph,
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-24-2018, 04:35 PM
I think the thing to keep in mind (and one of the reasons that it's worth being on multiple sites) is that different clipsites attract different customers. C4S has quite a wide net of general fetishists, IWC does have an increasing number of them (though there was that wobble a couple of month back), but has quite a big following of people who are into findom, I did a findom clip to see how it would perform expecting nothing and it sold a copy pretty much instantly on IWC, I don't think their top 50 is fake, I just think that the algorithm is different to C4S.
C4S's Top fifty is based on most sales in a set period,
IWC's I'm pretty sure is based on most spent rather than most sales, hence if a hugely famous findom sells two or three clips at a massive price then they are rocketed to the top of the charts.
Ahhh that explains it now, if their algorithm for 'top clips' is based on total amount of £ spent on a video, rather than number of individual sales of a video. :)
Seems like a pretty stupid & foolish method to use though tbh, as it doesn't actually provide anyone with any useful info about what the top selling clips are that week/month, simply shows you a list of the most expensive.
But tbh IWC's algo setup isn't really a big concern of mine! :D lol
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-24-2018, 04:40 PM
I think people forget that not everyone wants to actually act out their fantasies in real life. I am very dominant in my videos and real life, but I like to fantasize about being dominated. I've tried it with my partner but it was definitely not for me. This can be said for people into incest. Not all people that watch incest porn want to fuck their families, it's a fantasy. Sure, for the cost of some of these videos the customer could see a domme in person but they might enjoy the fantasy and roleplay alone but not like it with a domme in person. Maybe they have spouses or girlfriends/boyfriends and cannot do real time or maybe they don't even know where to go to do a real time session.
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It's just how it goes on some of these sites. It's not an odd concept, it's just about what kind of customers visit those sites and when.
I film, star in, edit, and upload all of my own videos. I price them between $10 - $500. I sell custom videos and do no offer any phone or cam sessions, but it's how I make my living. I can reasonably live on my own income though I have my spouses income as well. If people didn't pay for porn then I wouldn't still be doing this. It's been 7 years and I am still going strong. I am glad people are willing to pay for my videos and some buy almost every video I put out. One customer pays for a custom then when the video goes live to everyone else he buys it again. No idea why he always does this, but he does. It can be a crapshoot for those findom videos but they can sell and do sell for a lot of those top models on some sites.
Thankyou, I never thought about it like that.
I guess for me, well I never even did regular standard (boring) sex even when I was 15!! LOL
For me it was always kinky fetish sex, end of story / someone I start dating isn't ok with a fetish based relationship they could just fuck-off after date 3 as I'd move onto the next instead... ect
So for me the concept of people having fetishes, but not living them out as their daily life, just seems alien and strange tbh.
But I guess I'm younger than most of my customers, and so when they were growing-up the internet didn't exist / fetish = taboo = freak, and so they probably endedup having a normal bland vanilla life (but so these clips are their only true oulet into the fetish life they wish they had). :)
Great info, and taken onboard by me.
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And in regards to 'Findoms', I'm a very outspoken person so am not gonna lie, I do have an extremely low dim view on almost all findoms, but the reason for that quite simply is that there are so soo sooo many countless millions of findoms out there on twitter, all who merely do the exact same few acts of ''bratty princess / cruel domme / arrogant bitch'', that I just find it extremely hard to view them with any value as a performer since less than 1% of them actually bring any originality to their act.
Don't mean to sound like a bitch here, as I do get that it is hard work and does take alot of effort to be successful at it,
but sadly the sheer massive number of girls who now are all findoms has just totally drowned the entire sector, which once upon a time may of been a unique niche fetish which did require alot of creativity to be able to pull off properly.
And so for you girls who are making money as findoms from those huge £ per clip orders, I genuinely am glad for you. :)
I do guess it's a trade-off ultimately-
As if you do the findom route you are simply gonna be 1 out of a million other girls, all doing very very similar style to you, and so extremely hard to standout for the crowd / But on the upside you have the potential of massive £ per clip.
Wheras for me, well I've selected a very popular fetish, but one that has no actual real competitors to me in the marketplace currently! :)
(There are 4-5 other studios which do diaper-domme content, however all do adult-baby style content, which is totally different to what I do of modern-day reality style scenarions featuring diaper-domme).
So whilst I wont be able to charge inflated prices for my clips, on the upside atleast I have no actual competition to content with. :)
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-24-2018, 04:53 PM
Oh and I noticed earlier a comment on iWC not being able to "paragraph". Actually you can.. you have to use <br> codes. I use <br><br> to make a new paragraph,
Awww thankyou sooo much, gonna try implementing that code now.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-24-2018, 06:05 PM
Ok another new question i've got is how long exactly is it meant to take on IWC before your clips are actually searchable by customers??
As I uploaded all of mine last night, so 24hours ago now, but yet when i search for ''Nappy'' only 1 of my clips shows up in the video results (and is the last result on page 5, as IWC for some bizzare abusrd reason don't have a sort by date option!!)
justsometwat
11-24-2018, 07:55 PM
Ok another new question i've got is how long exactly is it meant to take on IWC before your clips are actually searchable by customers??
As I uploaded all of mine last night, so 24hours ago now, but yet when i search for ''Nappy'' only 1 of my clips shows up in the video results (and is the last result on page 5, as IWC for some bizzare abusrd reason don't have a sort by date option!!)
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?211365-The-Official-iWantClips-Thread
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-25-2018, 08:17 PM
Heya me again, I do 1stly just want to say thankyou for all the helpful adice + moral support which I got from you girls on here last week. :)
The biggest change which I made initially was trialling changing the catergory of a few of my clips, and that did actually show some surprising results, tha even though my store's actual catergory was 'Female Wrestling', I was own to like 37th ranked studio in that catergory,
but yet was ranked number 9th top studio in 'Fantasy Wrestling' (even though/or just because my newest clip ad been listed in that catergory).. :)
But so whilst I had thought 'fantasy wrestling' sounded like just ''fake roleplay fluffy play pretend wrestling'', which is not what any guys want based on all the feedback i've gotten, I had been scared of being associated with that catergory,
however after checking-out some of the other stores and clips in that catergory I saw that they are actually mainly all normal 'real contact' wrestling too, just focus on the more entertaining aspects such as spankings/wedgies/strippings/facesittings.. ect (which is exacly what my brand is all about),
rather than the fem wrestling catergory which is for more butch competetive athletic wrestling clips instead.
So I have now changed my entire store's catergory over to 'Fantasy Wrestling'. :)
Sales had thankfully returned back to normal level anyways before that though, as whilst I had that dry patch for 2weeks, I then got the 11 sales in 1 day a few days ago, and so I'm happy again now that things are back to normal. :)
Thankyou for all your help and tips though.
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-25-2018, 08:34 PM
Oh 1 different question I do have now though, albiet related to my other brand (the POV verbal humiliation clips) is how much do all of you find is the correct amount of content to give away in the preview clip,
which provides the perfect balance between being sufficient to show customers why your clips are different to the thousands of other verbal-humiliation domme's clips and so is a clip that they would enjoy and so is worth them spending money on VS being too much content disclosed in the free preview and so is sufficient enough for the guy to wank-off to without needing to bother paying for the full clip??
The reason I ask is that for my verbal-domme brand I do provide decent previews (59seconds length, all with sound), so customers will know for certain that they will enjoy my clips and so are worth them buying.
The previews are very popular (each preview which i've put onto pornhub has gotten over 1,000 views within the last few days), however sales-wise I'm only getting 1 sale per day on average (with approx 60 hits per day).
However on my Twitter i've had lots of guys want to interact with me, and they all say that they've watched my clips and love them... ect
But when I then ask them which clips they've bought it comes out that they haven't actualy bought any yet, instead were just referring to my preview clips as what they really enjoyed watching... :pessimist
I've looked on both clips4sale and IWC (although that site is incredibly shitly designed by a incompetent developer so a nightmare to even navigate!!),
but what i've seen is that 95% of other dommes don't even have any sound on their preview videos, and a large portion don't even have previews for their clips, simply have GIFs.
Or in other words less than 5% of other domme's studios actually offer video-previews with sound for their clips, with me being in that 5% minority... /:O
Obviously 95% of them can't all just be stupid fools who didn't create previews videos due to 'too lazy',
so instead there must be a logical reason why most girls choose to not post preview vids, let alone 59second length ones like I do (with the assumption being that they get more sales with shorter preview clips)...??
In my clips I try to keep the preview mainly just to showing the storyline intro, with not much actual main-content shown, but ultimately I dont know how much/or little it takes for the guy to jerk off to...
(Here's what I mean- https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/134723/nappy-brats)
But so my question is what is he maximum length of view preview you girls post for your verbal-domme clips, without it being too much freeview content and so costing you the sale??
justsometwat
11-26-2018, 06:08 AM
You're incredibly insulting when referring to other models. You're asking for advice on how to do things differently but insulting those that do do things differently. I do not, have not, and will not offer 1 minute long previews and all of my videos come with only gifs.
Again, you're focusing way too much on what other people do.
You offer 60 second previews with sound? Experiment. Try 45 seconds, see what changes. Nothing? Try 30 seconds. Look for correlation.
Hits and views mean nothing if they aren't converting to sales. There's no formula to this. What applies to other absolutely does not apply to me. We can give all the advice on the world but there's so many variables that you can never replicate the results.
MsConstrued
11-26-2018, 07:29 AM
You'll want to do some research on timewasters. The reason those posting clips in the Domme and humiliation categories don't post previews. Most guys want free wank material. The guys messaging you is proof that they're looking for even more free wank material. Even if a guy buys a clip and messages you, unless it's asking for a custom and accompanied with payment, they again want free stuff. Our time is better spent just putting out more material and our time is best compensated when they buy our clips. Free previews don't often help in this category and more hurt. There's no real "money shot" here and any one word or second is all the guy needs to get off.
lucymarie1988
11-26-2018, 10:16 AM
This one has always been a bit of a mystery to me! I have been doing clips4sale for over 4 years now as my main source of income and always used to give a preview every time. I thought if Tara Tainton gives previews and she is always number 1 then that's what I will do. Then I decided to only give previews to longer clips or ones where it helps for them to know what my accent is like, a it seemed not many models were doing it. ( for example hypno )
I cant help but think a really short preview gives the customer a taste of the video quality and also your accent which is really important to some guys. Personally I have felt there has been far more wank material in the GIFs I have created than the actual previews. A lot of my customers have said they prefer a preview at first, but once they buy from you on a regular basis it doesn't make a difference. Although I used to make more money putting previews every time, I think it was more becuase I used to do taboo and blowjob clips which made me a lot more revenue anyway. I think there is definitely a case for including a very short one of maybe 5-10 seconds but I cant see the point of including a long one? that's just giving far too much away for free!