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Julie D
10-28-2019, 03:32 PM
I believe the policy is that they cover all chargebacks but not refunds. I have had a few refunds but not many. Refunds are given (taken) when there was either fraud on the customer's end or if, say, a clip was not viewable. I also believe (and anyone feel free to correct me on any of this) that if someone does a chargeback they are banned from ever using c4s again. I'd assume it's isp banned tho I don't know if they bar people who are using a VPN?
I HAVE had multiple instances of customers, either through an error on their part or some technical glitch, buy a clip twice. Interestingly, that has never been refunded (ie subtracted from my sales.) I can't remember if I had contacted support or what but I have a memory of being told that if that happens they are offered the choice to DL another clip or get a credit if they so choose? Like I said, I've had it happen multiple times and have yet to have the extra clip(s) subtracted from my total.
I HAVE had multiple instances of customers, either through an error on their part or some technical glitch, buy a clip twice. Interestingly, that has never been refunded (ie subtracted from my sales.) I can't remember if I had contacted support or what but I have a memory of being told that if that happens they are offered the choice to DL another clip or get a credit if they so choose? Like I said, I've had it happen multiple times and have yet to have the extra clip(s) subtracted from my total.
I've had that happen a bunch of times with me too. I'd say about 10% of them get refunded but 90% don't.
WendiStarr
10-28-2019, 03:51 PM
I was going to try this site again since I can fill a niche there with the pregnancy fetish. Chargebacks and everything else I'm reading is giving me second thoughts. Not cool, c4s.
Victoria_Gray
10-28-2019, 07:00 PM
I was going to try this site again since I can fill a niche there with the pregnancy fetish. Chargebacks and everything else I'm reading is giving me second thoughts. Not cool, c4s.
That's where I am with it, too.
But it sounds like something that doesn't happen often...
To be fair, I signed up with MV because they make a big deal about their chargeback protection, and they've been a nightmare, so can it matter too much? It seems like anything adult you're going to be treated like shit by whoever you work with. It's really sad, and pathetic on their part, but yeah... :(
Julie D
10-28-2019, 07:30 PM
C4S covers chargebacks. Meaning if someone buys clips and does a chargeback, you still keep your money. In fact bc they do this, I have no idea if I've ever had a chargeback.
I was curious so I ran the numbers and in the 22 months I've been doing this I've had a total of $85 in refunds. That's like .0026% of my income from c4s. I personally can deal with that.
Idk, every situation will have it's problems, but I personally haven't felt like I've been treated poorly by c4s but YYMV.
justsometwat
10-28-2019, 07:43 PM
I've only gotten a handful of refunds in like 8 years and while it's irritating it's not something that happens enough that I really notice it
About two years ago I was getting daily refunds or chargebacks for weeks. It was really pissing me off at the time at the time. A lot of stores were having the same problem. Eventually it stopped and now I rarely get them. I've had $52 in refunds this year and about a quarter of that was because some customers bought multiple of the same clip and got refunded for it.
Victoria_Gray
10-28-2019, 08:23 PM
C4S covers chargebacks. Meaning if someone buys clips and does a chargeback, you still keep your money. In fact bc they do this, I have no idea if I've ever had a chargeback.
I was curious so I ran the numbers and in the 22 months I've been doing this I've had a total of $85 in refunds. That's like .0026% of my income from c4s. I personally can deal with that.
Idk, every situation will have it's problems, but I personally haven't felt like I've been treated poorly by c4s but YYMV.
I was talking about many vids treating me poorly, not c4s, I have not signed up there yet. Was looking into this before I made the plunge.
After reading everyones feedback - and hearing about c4s a lot in the past - I am thinking of signing up. Might just make a cup of tea and chill after mv drama though. Don't want to take this frustrated energy into a new relationship w/ c4s.
fetishqueen
10-29-2019, 12:54 AM
Out of the big 3 sites (MV, C4S & IWC) I've always found C4S's customer service to be excellent. Fast and polite and when I say fast, if I email Support with a question I usually have a response in two or three minutes. I've not really had issue with either of the other sites but their CS response time is several hours to a day or two, a marked difference!
PixiieGirl
10-29-2019, 02:37 AM
I would say C4S is worth it, it was my highest income clip site for the longest time, sometimes MV is now but it took a lot to grow there for me whereas C4S didnt
Victoria_Gray
10-29-2019, 07:04 PM
Out of the big 3 sites (MV, C4S & IWC) I've always found C4S's customer service to be excellent. Fast and polite and when I say fast, if I email Support with a question I usually have a response in two or three minutes. I've not really had issue with either of the other sites but their CS response time is several hours to a day or two, a marked difference!
A couple mins!? That's awesome! I did notice he gives his direct number in the back end of the website. I thought that was a nice touch. Have heard good things about him and the way the site is run, so feeling way comfortable here!
I had a really positive customer service exp. w/ AVN Stars the other day too and was like, 'you know what, I think I should make being treated with respect a minimum for working with someone...' so many times I have accepted poor treatment from these websites when I should have just taken my business elsewhere.
Victoria_Gray
10-29-2019, 07:16 PM
I would say C4S is worth it, it was my highest income clip site for the longest time, sometimes MV is now but it took a lot to grow there for me whereas C4S didnt
Are you on IWC as well? I have found them to be quite good, although they were my first site so I can't compare the earnings to anywhere else yet.
PixiieGirl
10-30-2019, 03:37 AM
Are you on IWC as well? I have found them to be quite good, although they were my first site so I can't compare the earnings to anywhere else yet.
I am! I dont really make much there tbh but I still have about 100 clips to upload there that arent on MV and C4S, and most of whats on there isnt really femdom lol
Victoria_Gray
10-31-2019, 02:16 AM
I am! I dont really make much there tbh but I still have about 100 clips to upload there that arent on MV and C4S, and most of whats on there isnt really femdom lol
Fair enough. I like it over there, but C4S seems cool so far too. By the sounds of it most people make more money on C4S than IWC, so perhaps a good move...
Victoria_Gray
10-31-2019, 02:20 AM
My clipstore is now live and benefiting from extra traffic because it is in the 'new clip stores' part of the home page, which is great!
My conversion though doesn't seem to be very good. I am not sure if it is better or worse than normal because I don't get the stats anywhere else like I do on C4S, but I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on how to make my clip store pop a bit more and get more sales?
Right now I am thinking I need to work on branding for the audio covers - everything is audio only atm - so someone can just look at mine and know they're me. Kind of like what Emperess Mika does. I also am thinking of doing some short clips like painting toe nails and ignoring clip, just to get a feel for if I like shooting clips. They would be added to the store side-by-side with the audios, too.
Is there anything else I am not thinking about? Totally keen for any and all advice, thanks a heap in advance ladies!!!
Clip store link: https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/147631/victoria-gray-clip-store
justsometwat
10-31-2019, 12:39 PM
First you have to get rid of the white background, no one likes looking at porn on a site that is blinding them. Usually they are looking at it in the dark so a white background is way too bright.
You should also use different images for each item if possible. When you use the same one it just looks like the same products over and over.
A header for your store would be good too. Just so it looks a little less empty.
fetishqueen
10-31-2019, 12:49 PM
My clipstore is now live and benefiting from extra traffic because it is in the 'new clip stores' part of the home page, which is great!
My conversion though doesn't seem to be very good. I am not sure if it is better or worse than normal because I don't get the stats anywhere else like I do on C4S, but I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on how to make my clip store pop a bit more and get more sales?
Right now I am thinking I need to work on branding for the audio covers - everything is audio only atm - so someone can just look at mine and know they're me. Kind of like what Emperess Mika does. I also am thinking of doing some short clips like painting toe nails and ignoring clip, just to get a feel for if I like shooting clips. They would be added to the store side-by-side with the audios, too.
Is there anything else I am not thinking about? Totally keen for any and all advice, thanks a heap in advance ladies!!!
Clip store link: https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/147631/victoria-gray-clip-store
Three things spring to mind -
I would write Audio Only in big letters across each image, just to be sure they know what they are getting. When guys are jerking off, they don't always read properly!
Add some featured clips, that will put something across the top of the store to catch the eye.
The fact you are Australian could well be a selling feature, I'd make more of that, perhaps even in the name of your clip store.
:)
Victoria_Gray
10-31-2019, 04:54 PM
Thank you both for those tips!
Just two questions...
when you say add a header, you meant a HTML header with banner, etc, or something else?
Also, you don't think the guys will read the text on those images and realize they're different? I guess their in wanking mode, so maybe not...
justsometwat
10-31-2019, 05:11 PM
I honestly thought the items were all the same when I went to look.
For the header I put an image of myself and some info on it, I did a whole thing where you can click different parts of mine though. Depends on how you want to do it I guess. Something with a little info or link to your Twitter. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, but I think it makes the stores look a little better.
justsometwat
10-31-2019, 05:11 PM
Check out some of the top stores and see what kinds of stuff they add to their stores. Obviously not everything will work for you and don't copy their stuff but it will give you an idea.
Victoria_Gray
10-31-2019, 07:55 PM
I can't work out how to go to the top stores. When I click on featured artists, it just links me to their work.
Luna66
11-01-2019, 01:18 PM
Email I just got from Customs4U:
Thank you for being a Customs4U Creator!
We’re excited to share some news with you about the future of Custom Videos and the solutions you need to advertise, accept payments, and deliver your custom videos securely to your fans!
The big news is that Customs4U is being merged into Clips4Sale.com. Through this merger Clips4Sale will soon be incorporating Custom Video sales into their downloadable clip platform to offer their stellar services to custom content producers. To accomplish this transition the Customs4U website will be taken offline on November 1st, 2019 and redirected to Clips4Sale.com.
If you are not currently a Clips4Sale Studio Owner, they invite you to open a studio by signing up now. Clips4Sale offers 24 hour Studio Support to assist you in opening your new studio should you need assistance.
If you are a current Clips4Sale Studio Owner please watch for future announcements in the admin about adding Custom Videos to your store.
Need assistance or have a question? Please contact Clips4Sale Studio Support, they will be happy to assist you.
The Customs4U Team
laurielegs
11-01-2019, 01:21 PM
Finally an option for taking custom orders on our stores, yes!!!
caramelcraze
11-01-2019, 01:23 PM
I’m so excited about this option!
takiaya
11-01-2019, 01:48 PM
Email I just got from Customs4U:
Thank you for being a Customs4U Creator!
We’re excited to share some news with you about the future of Custom Videos and the solutions you need to advertise, accept payments, and deliver your custom videos securely to your fans!
The big news is that Customs4U is being merged into Clips4Sale.com. Through this merger Clips4Sale will soon be incorporating Custom Video sales into their downloadable clip platform to offer their stellar services to custom content producers. To accomplish this transition the Customs4U website will be taken offline on November 1st, 2019 and redirected to Clips4Sale.com.
If you are not currently a Clips4Sale Studio Owner, they invite you to open a studio by signing up now. Clips4Sale offers 24 hour Studio Support to assist you in opening your new studio should you need assistance.
If you are a current Clips4Sale Studio Owner please watch for future announcements in the admin about adding Custom Videos to your store.
Need assistance or have a question? Please contact Clips4Sale Studio Support, they will be happy to assist you.
The Customs4U Team
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Luna66
11-01-2019, 02:15 PM
Just my initial thoughts, literally from the first 90 seconds of thinking about it.
Positives:
1. I think there are quite a lot of customers who don't order customs because it is a kind of annoying process, and it involves going outside of C4S. They have to scroll to the top of our store, find our email address (if it's even there), email us and pay us outside of C4S. I think having it all completely integrated with C4S, easy-to-do and anonymous will increase orders, especially from certain demographics.
2. I believe the idea of paying upfront is a barrier to many customers. The idea that we could just take the money and not actually make/send the video is scary. So I think having an escrow system like Customs4U, where the money will be returned to the customer if the custom isn't delivered, and the whole process is backed by C4S, might make people more likely to order.
Negatives:
1. This is the big one for me. I imagine that C4S will now stop us from advertising outside methods of contact (our websites, email addresses, Twitters etc). The argument up until now has been "We need to be able to advertise our contact information so that people can order customs". As soon as people can order customs within C4S, that argument will no longer hold weight. This concerns me because I like being able to advertise my website. It doesn't just have information about customs, it has information about lots of other things, and I make a lot of money from it. Without being able to advertise it on C4S, I imagine the amount of views my website gets will massively decrease.
2. I currently get 85-90% for my customs, using payment methods outside of C4S. I imagine the % on C4S will be 75-80? Not a massive drop, but not insignificant.
Negatives:
1. This is the big one for me. I imagine that C4S will now stop us from advertising outside methods of contact (our websites, email addresses, Twitters etc).
I don't think they'll do that. Websites and Twitter have functions that our stores don't, the ability to announce stuff, take polls, post BTS content, etc... If they were to take away our ability to have contact with our customers the way we do now there would be a huge revolt from store owners and I'm sure C4S knows that and won't try it.
PixiieGirl
11-01-2019, 05:07 PM
Im concerned about the loss in %, guess it depends what C4S will put it as, but hopefully the uptake in ease will make up for it :)
caramelcraze
11-01-2019, 11:44 PM
Im concerned about the loss in %, guess it depends what C4S will put it as, but hopefully the uptake in ease will make up for it :)
I'm just hoping they grandfather in everyone with an existing account percentage wise if they do plan on dropping it at all.
PixiieGirl
11-02-2019, 04:08 AM
I'm just hoping they grandfather in everyone with an existing account percentage wise if they do plan on dropping it at all.
I meant for customs, currently I’d get 75-80%, if it’s lower for the C4S way that’ll be annoying
BustyLark
11-03-2019, 04:53 PM
This is exciting. I get lots of custom requests on other sites but have never had one from C4S.
SuperPookie
11-04-2019, 12:00 PM
I wonder if they will take away the option to advertise our Twitter and personal website now to avoid us getting customers to pay on other sites? If the payout is the same as C4S then unless there is a decent amount of new custom sales I'll take a hit as usually I have them pay on LiveCamModelShows to get 85%.
Victoria_Gray
11-05-2019, 08:45 PM
I do audio only at the moment. I have not yet seen anything that lets you do custom audios, it'd be nice if C4S bought that in though...
SophiaSylvan
11-06-2019, 10:47 AM
I agree with the possible benefits of using an integrated customs system and the worries too. I used to work with customs4u and the main issue was they upcharged the customer 40% so if you wanted to get 100% of the custom fee, once the customer checks out, they get an added 40% on top of that. It turned off a LOT of customers and it is probably why they failed. I hope c4s is smarter than that, and will only take 15-25%, but I think they will be taking more, personally. I have good reasons from the highest to think they intend to take 40% and believe that is normal/good for us, but I am too lazy to dig out my email from years ago and I hope minds have changed since then. I'm also concerned we will have to take the emails out of the header and other contact info such as our websites, twitter etc. and won't be allowed to contact customers directly like every other site. I've always truly appreciated the freedom, trust and respect c4s has given us for such a long time. It would be a shame to see them becoming like this, on top of Mindgeek too. I'm nervous.
ep2002
11-06-2019, 11:59 AM
Hi gals,
How much do you charge for custom videos?
Thanks
Midwest-Mistress
11-06-2019, 12:54 PM
I was searching through the C4S blog archives and the past two years around this time - well October there seemed to be an 75% Commission and matched revenue bonus... Is that not occurring this year?
caramelcraze
11-06-2019, 01:05 PM
Question: has anyone been able to access their C4U page? i want to edit my prices but it just redirects me to c4s every time i try to.
justsometwat
11-06-2019, 02:06 PM
Question: has anyone been able to access their C4U page? i want to edit my prices but it just redirects me to c4s every time i try to.
I think they said they were taking C4U offline to update it or something
PixiieGirl
11-06-2019, 04:05 PM
Hi gals,
How much do you charge for custom videos?
Thanks
$5/min if I can resell, $10/min if I cant. I know Im pretty cheap compared to most tho lol!
laurielegs
11-06-2019, 08:55 PM
I had closed my c4u account because I was getting no sales and it was sitting at just a few dollars above payout forever so that I could get my money. I hope I don't have to go and reapply now lol. Also I hope it integrates into our stores well so that customers can easily buy customs.
laurielegs
11-06-2019, 08:58 PM
Hi gals,
How much do you charge for custom videos?
Thanks
I charge $10 per minute unless it needs a lot of special audio/visual effects and I resell them all unless they pay a $300 exclusivity fee. Not going through all that for that and giving them exclusive rights for nothing. I used to think that was a little high but when I look around at stores where models do c4s full time they often charge way more than that. On mp3s I do $5 per minute.
Glamourmilf
11-07-2019, 08:37 AM
Will clips4sale fire clip makers in California on January 1st?
bootiebabe
11-07-2019, 01:54 PM
Has anyone not been paid yet that gets payment via bank transfer I usually get mine few days before the 7th still not got anything x
ep2002
11-08-2019, 09:09 AM
$5/min if I can resell, $10/min if I cant. I know Im pretty cheap compared to most tho lol!
I charge $10 per minute unless it needs a lot of special audio/visual effects and I resell them all unless they pay a $300 exclusivity fee. Not going through all that for that and giving them exclusive rights for nothing. I used to think that was a little high but when I look around at stores where models do c4s full time they often charge way more than that. On mp3s I do $5 per minute.
Thanks ladies
ep2002
11-08-2019, 09:10 AM
Still don't know why the signatures on our profiles is broken.
Anyone?
It's been like that for at least a week I think, although I haven't been on the site in a while.
caramelcraze
11-09-2019, 03:41 PM
Still don't know why the signatures on our profiles is broken.
Anyone?
It's been like that for at least a week I think, although I haven't been on the site in a while.
There's a thread about it in camming connection. they're working on it i believe :)
Jessicas_DoE_x
11-12-2019, 05:28 AM
Hello quick question-
Is there a difference between the type of chargebacks/claimed frauds which clips4sale cover chargeback for vs the type they don't??
As I've had scammers do chargebacks before, but always got ''chargeback forgiveness'' previously, so I didn't lose money.
But this month I got over $120 worth of fraud-chargebacks from some other scammer, however clips4sale have deducted that from my sales this month, not done the forgiveness!?!
fetishqueen
11-12-2019, 05:53 AM
Hello quick question-
Is there a difference between the type of chargebacks/claimed frauds which clips4sale cover chargeback for vs the type they don't??
As I've had scammers do chargebacks before, but always got ''chargeback forgiveness'' previously, so I didn't lose money.
But this month I got over $120 worth of fraud-chargebacks from some other scammer, however clips4sale have deducted that from my sales this month, not done the forgiveness!?!
It's a percentage I believe, they'll forgive amounts up to a certain percentage of your total sales. Have you contacted customer service, they are very fast. That is rubbish though.
justsometwat
11-13-2019, 11:03 AM
I posted this in Camming Connection in this - thread - (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?218855-Nexocams-Fetish-Camsite-By-Clips4Sale&p=3146972&viewfull=1#post3146972) I wanted to post here in case you're not following that thread:
So, I don't understand this. I was trying to send out a Studio email from C4S and to include a new promo price for my LoyalFans. When I went to copy the referral/promo link it gave me a tinyurl link that I used in my Studio email.
When I went to send the studio email it came back saying Tinyurl links were not allowed. Instead I got the direct referral link and included it in my email. I also used a LoyalFans image of the widget (since you cannot use the actual widget in the email - coding doesn't work). My email was approved and sent out.
I emailed support, letting them know that this seemed like an oversight. Doesn't make sense to make it a tinyurl link if C4S doesn't allow you to use them. I get an email back -
Thanks for the information and we are sorry for the trouble, sadly, this is in part due to the fact that OnlyFans (corrected in new email to say LOYALFANS - mistype from Support) is no longer connected to Clips4Sale as Nexocams used to be and technically OnlyFans (corrected in new email to say LOYALFANS - mistype from Support) shouldn't be promoted via Clips4Sale.
We are sorry for the trouble and we thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
Clips4Sale.com
LoyalFans is moving on a separate website from Clips4Sale, different than how the relationship used to be with Clips4Sale while it was Nexocams.
I don't understand why this is separate and cannot be promoted through C4S. Neil talks about Nexocams and it's move to LoyalFans - which Nexocams now redirects to in one of his livestreams.
Are they no longer affiliated with C4S? Now that Nexocams is no longer a live site and directs to LoyalFans - which WAS paying out via C4S according to my payouts - are they simply a standalone website?
What's the point in having this kind of fan club site if I cannot use C4S to promote if it still belongs to C4S? I tried looking for information via C4S's FAQ and cannot find ANYTHING on Nexocams or C4S. That's really odd. There's nothing in the help portion of LoyalFans' support.
SophiaSylvan
11-20-2019, 08:29 AM
! SOS Mac Users!
So I made an inquiry to support and c4s informed me I was doing something wrong re: codecs. I'm new to using a MAC and I'm looking for free conversion software for a MacBook Pro to turn mp4s into wmvs. I release 2 versions of mp4 and wmv and I would like to keep doing so for visibility. Apparently changing the extensions is wrong for codecs, despite me testing it on multiple computers, Windows, old outdated systems like XP etc. which works fine. I'm about to despair of finding a free one that works, I've spent all morning on Google and doing useless free downloads.