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AlyssaJ
05-26-2021, 03:20 AM
Anyone else getting with chargebacks and refunds suddenly? More than half of my refunds from 2018 - present are from the last month and a half.
Same, never had that many refunds before. They were all because of duplicate purchases from the same customer (not their fault, it was an error)

AlyssaJ
05-26-2021, 03:26 AM
Heads up that many of my older clips and who knows what else are disappearing for no reason, the content is compliant. I'm going back over old content and releasing in the updated formats as before I used to do one format only. I noticed out of the clips I am posting the originals are totally missing from my store at a rate of about 10%. No idea why

Wow, that's wildly frustrating. Are you sure they are really gone - the search function in my store and admin won't show the right clip even if I type in the full title exactly as it is named. I checked my content and I _think_ everything is still there, as I post clips in two formats so both would have to be gone. If so I probably wouldn't notice :/

AlyssaJ
05-26-2021, 03:31 AM
Hmm....not get sales emails. Anyone else?

I haven't gotten them for years now. Occasionally I get them for a day or two, then it stops again. I tried switching e-mails and made several tickets about it and got the usual "forwarded to programmers" reply. Now I just accepted it and check that info in admin instead.

ericachronic
05-28-2021, 07:50 AM
Any one else notice the custom top html on there store no longer is being displayed....I had a great menu system with pictures....and now its gone and my clipstore looks boring as shit.

ericachronic
05-28-2021, 08:18 AM
Ok found out what is going on....the recent update switched the store to grid view....which happens to remove the html....don't ever recall them mentioning this in the update....

ericachronic
06-04-2021, 09:26 AM
Well looks like they pushed another update.....make sure you pay attention to the clip "preview" options when uploading a clip. Seems it will auto generate a video preview for you now.

Tea4Me
06-04-2021, 07:04 PM
Well looks like they pushed another update.....make sure you pay attention to the clip "preview" options when uploading a clip. Seems it will auto generate a video preview for you now.

Where do you see that? I just checked the admin>Clip store link and scrolled down. The default setting for "Auto Generated" is "Disable preview for this clip". I'll check again when I upload a clip to see if that changes.

Newwavegirl
06-05-2021, 04:12 AM
Neil sold this company to mindgeek 100% do not be mislead he really has nothing to do with it anymore but being a fake face with really no control over the sites issues.This why the support had gone downhill they are mostly from other countries. Half the time I contact support they do not reply and send me a server issue reply. Many of the staff that worked for them were fired without warning after many years of being there very sad. Me and many other store owners discuss often how the support went from the best to one of the worst.

Mindgeek has really messed up the site I had loved having a store many years on c4s but now always issues. I hope they fix the site but the excuses they feed us are just that excuses.

Tea4Me
06-05-2021, 08:59 AM
Neil sold this company to mindgeek 100% do not be mislead he really has nothing to do with it anymore but being a fake face with really no control over the sites issues.

Unless you have a (reliable) source, I'm just going to take that as speculation.

justsometwat
06-05-2021, 09:06 AM
Yeah from everything I read they are more a partnership. If mind geek owned c4s fully I think they would have actually made changes now, especially ones they had promised when this was all announced.

I haven't had any issues with support, they have been really quick to answer and have always answered my questions. I think in the past people had issues with their specific questions being ignored or not answered properly but I think that's customer support everywhere.

justsometwat
06-19-2021, 09:43 AM
Thank god, I didn't know there was a way to change your store layout go back to the original one. I was about to complain, I really don't like the look of a page with nothing but gifs and minimal info on it. Shame it takes 24 hours to change though.

MissAdriana
07-02-2021, 11:07 AM
I like the new page the problem was my sales went down the nothing while I used it. Changed it back to old layout and sales came back in

justsometwat
07-02-2021, 11:25 AM
That's exactly what happened to me.

naughtybustyteen
07-02-2021, 11:46 AM
I want to talk abut c4s and how I find sales there to be a little disappointing.
I currently only sell audio there, but im in the process of opening a video store and that got me wondering.

When I compare it to iwantclips, I make twice the amount of money on iwc than on c4s. My disappointment comes from
all the built up expectations I had from looking the site up here and hearing what you all had to say about it. I thought it would be my main money source,
but iwc beats it by miles, and then niteflirt.

I wonder if its a audio vs video thing. I'll find out when I launch my video store I guess, but its been on my mind for a couple of years and I wanted to talk about it.

TheBrownFox
07-03-2021, 01:14 AM
I want to talk abut c4s and how I find sales there to be a little disappointing.
I currently only sell audio there, but im in the process of opening a video store and that got me wondering.

When I compare it to iwantclips, I make twice the amount of money on iwc than on c4s. My disappointment comes from
all the built up expectations I had from looking the site up here and hearing what you all had to say about it. I thought it would be my main money source,
but iwc beats it by miles, and then niteflirt.

I wonder if its a audio vs video thing. I'll find out when I launch my video store I guess, but its been on my mind for a couple of years and I wanted to talk about it.


Yes, and I find it a pain in the ass uploading videos to C4S anyway. Often times I'll upload videos to other clip sites, and I'll avoid uploading to C4S because I don't feel like dealing with uploading on there. Seems like I'll upload videos to IWantClips, and get a video sale the same night...or even a custom video order that night. So I'm guessing that whenever you post a new for sale item on IWC, it either brings your profile closer to the front of your page, or your new addition just puts more eyeballs on your profile at that moment? Cool.

Now I've got a "popping bubble wrap" video I haven't even posted on C4S yet (Just didn't feel like dealing with C4S), and will probably do a crying video within the next few days. I feel like those kind of videos should do better on a site like Clips4Sale, so we'll see.

bigbum
07-03-2021, 01:59 AM
I want to talk abut c4s and how I find sales there to be a little disappointing.
I currently only sell audio there, but im in the process of opening a video store and that got me wondering.

When I compare it to iwantclips, I make twice the amount of money on iwc than on c4s. My disappointment comes from
all the built up expectations I had from looking the site up here and hearing what you all had to say about it. I thought it would be my main money source,
but iwc beats it by miles, and then niteflirt.

I wonder if its a audio vs video thing. I'll find out when I launch my video store I guess, but its been on my mind for a couple of years and I wanted to talk about it.

i have over 60 clips spread on 2 accounts on c4s.
i have boy girl/ girl girl/ girl solo vids in many different categories .

i also just started audio only and never sold a single one yet.

id be luck to earn $50 total in 5 months or so. haha.
i just stopped making content and uploading crap .

Emanuelle
07-03-2021, 02:59 AM
i have over 60 clips spread on 2 accounts on c4s.
i have boy girl/ girl girl/ girl solo vids in many different categories .

i also just started audio only and never sold a single one yet.

id be luck to earn $50 total in 5 months or so. haha.
i just stopped making content and uploading crap .

I've never made a single sale with my ASMR videos. I think girls who do well with audio just have something special and it's not for everyone.

CatBBW
07-04-2021, 01:14 PM
Thank god, I didn't know there was a way to change your store layout go back to the original one. I was about to complain, I really don't like the look of a page with nothing but gifs and minimal info on it. Shame it takes 24 hours to change though.

Had zero sales (but had a refund deducted!) in June, so this will be why. I do like the new page visually, but that's not how I have found my customers choose to purchase (and i wouldn't like it if I was trying to choose what to buy - all those extra clicks/taps etc). I'm also on IWC and MV and have clips on AVNStars, and C4S outsells them all together consistently, which I feel is the result of customers being able to see a nice big pic, which can be toggled for gif/preview (if seller has chosen) and a description that draws the customer into your fantasy world. The 3 other sites mentioned all have a layout similar to the new C4S layout option, and a pretty pic just won't do for a lot of customers to make their choice.

I switched back to List Layout and it took less than 30 mins to change (at least on my screen anyway).

justsometwat
07-05-2021, 06:28 PM
I've already made 50% of my sales from last month for July. I don't understand how that made such a difference but I'm glad it came back to "normal"

laurielegs
07-05-2021, 10:17 PM
Since Streamate has said that disabling clip previews has increased sales it's got me thinking maybe I should disable my previews. I've got mine on across all my sites. My thinking was if it were me personally I would not want to buy a clip without seeing what the voice and vid quality was like, but then again sometimes guys just get off on a preview and then don't buy. My gifs look pretty good usually.

I'm wondering who else has experimented with having them off and what the results have been? I think I'm going to turn them off for this month and see how it goes. My sales have tanked lately so it can't really hurt too much I guess.

So, checking back in, I left my clips previews disabled for nearly 2 months now and my sales decreased a lot. Almost no money coming in.

Not sure if that's the total reason but I'm enabling them again to see if sales improve for me.

MissAdriana
07-07-2021, 08:52 AM
So, checking back in, I left my clips previews disabled for nearly 2 months now and my sales decreased a lot. Almost no money coming in.


That's interesting do you edit your own previews? Do you include audio in them?

C4S is the only site I have that is doing worse in 2021 than in 2020, not a good sign. Time to review my uploads and completely rethink my strategy on here

justsometwat
07-07-2021, 09:07 AM
I've thought about abandoning c4s with how awful the sales have been. All of my other sites are booming but this year has been abysmal on c4s. I wish they'd make all of the changes that they said they were going to. Maybe that would have helped rather than changing the clip layout.

caramelcraze
07-16-2021, 03:52 AM
Not exactly a c4s question, but clip creation related: Does anyone here use a teleprompter app on their android device for scripted clips? I'm in the market for a decent one to use on my tablet. many of my clips this month are script heavy and it would make life so much easier if I could find a decent one that's easy to figure out.

Tea4Me
07-16-2021, 07:47 AM
Is anyone else able to upload on C4S at the moment??

Felicia[FightServ]
07-19-2021, 10:24 PM
Frontpage stuck since 8:45PM (EST) last night and no updates processing in any store. :(

laurielegs
07-20-2021, 10:06 PM
That's interesting do you edit your own previews? Do you include audio in them?

C4S is the only site I have that is doing worse in 2021 than in 2020, not a good sign. Time to review my uploads and completely rethink my strategy on here

Yes mine have audio. I always edit and upload a good preview that I'm happy with. My sales picked up a bit since re-enabling my previews so I guess at least for me they are necessary.

boyru
07-24-2021, 01:36 AM
From C4S:
Due to new Credit Card processing requirements that go into full force October 2021 for adult content (clips and images), as of Tuesday, August 10th 2021, all open and active studio owners will be required to complete a studio specific Compliance Details information form in your studio admin. Additionally, content uploaded to our platform will require proper compliance documents which include the Photo ID(s) and the Consent Form(s) of any and all performers appearing in your content.

Are this measures only for content with nudity?

bellababy444
07-24-2021, 05:50 AM
Hi! So i just started my C4S account and filling out banking info. I decided on chosing Paxum as my payment method seeing that international transfers cost 45 bucks which is outrageous. At the bottom of the page it asks for intermediary bank info and i have no idea what that is...can someone help plis!!!

Tea4Me
07-24-2021, 08:33 AM
From C4S:
Due to new Credit Card processing requirements that go into full force October 2021 for adult content (clips and images), as of Tuesday, August 10th 2021, all open and active studio owners will be required to complete a studio specific Compliance Details information form in your studio admin. Additionally, content uploaded to our platform will require proper compliance documents which include the Photo ID(s) and the Consent Form(s) of any and all performers appearing in your content.

Are this measures only for content with nudity?


I took it to mean *ALL* performers, regardless of what they are wearing/doing.

boyru
07-24-2021, 09:57 PM
I took it to mean *ALL* performers, regardless of what they are wearing/doing.

Do they know how much time takes editing of 4000 clips?
If they want this applies only for future clips - okay. If they want this applies for all clips - better to remove 95% of clips, don't spend time and don't "kill eyes".

Sam38g
07-25-2021, 08:21 AM
From C4S:
Due to new Credit Card processing requirements that go into full force October 2021 for adult content (clips and images), as of Tuesday, August 10th 2021, all open and active studio owners will be required to complete a studio specific Compliance Details information form in your studio admin. Additionally, content uploaded to our platform will require proper compliance documents which include the Photo ID(s) and the Consent Form(s) of any and all performers appearing in your content.

Are this measures only for content with nudity?

It will mean all clips. Now, we all have to figure out whether or not if it will be worth taking the time to find & upload all that paper work. If we trust them not to get hacked & our information compromised. I really don't make money off of my older clips with others in them.

It is easier for me to delete all that content cause it will not be a financial lost to me, while taking all those hours to do the work & away from projects that make me money now.

I do see on a positive side of how some much of my stolen content will disappear off of the internet. Lots of free porn will disappear from the web. Porn will once again go behind a pay wall.

But I fail to see why you would have to re-edit your content, did you not get IDs, model releases & such when making said clips?

boyru
07-25-2021, 09:47 AM
i need personally written and signed agreement from each model to send their ID's digital images outside the country.
If i send without permission i can be prisoned for 2-3 years immediatly (criminal article 137).

My content filmed since 2002 and over 90% of Girls are inaccessible now. Someone dead, a lot of Girls leave russia and live in U.S, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Greece.
There is no possibility to visit them and write+fill+sign agreement.

Sam38g
07-25-2021, 10:05 AM
i need personally written and signed agreement from each model to send their ID's digital images outside the country.
If i send without permission i can be prisoned for 2-3 years immediatly (criminal article 137).

My content filmed since 2002 and over 90% of Girls are inaccessible now. Someone dead, a lot of Girls leave russia and live in U.S, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Greece.
There is no possibility to visit them and write+fill+sign agreement.

Hmmm, well, not worth that risk. Although, I think of it from the model's perspective. If someone is dead, then feel their porn should be removed in general out of respect. Lots of gals are in this for a short period of time & due to double standards regret doing porn. Porn should not be something that haunts them for the rest of their lives, especially if they change careers.

After doing porn for 17 years, being told it was great pay. When in reality, those companies made fortunes & comparatively paid me so little. YET can profit off of it for a lifetime.. screw them Your ability to profit off of them for a lifetime for a little bit of money, like $1200 or less is just unfair & a rigged game.

This industry is always evolving & changing, we have to evolve & change with it.

boyru
07-25-2021, 11:11 AM
I don't earn $1200 ... my monthly income is very very litlle :(

space_cowgirl
07-25-2021, 02:03 PM
I am completely blanking - where on C4S admin is the blank consent form that we need to have each co-performer fill out?

Thanks!

Tea4Me
07-25-2021, 04:49 PM
I am completely blanking - where on C4S admin is the blank consent form that we need to have each co-performer fill out?

Thanks!

I believe they are putting up the area of the admin, where we submit this info, on August 10th.

SuperPookie
07-25-2021, 10:58 PM
So from what I understand I don't need to do any additional paperwork for past videos as they are all solo clips?

boyru
07-26-2021, 01:18 AM
Which signed papers (english version) i need to make for 3000 clips where were fimed me and various girls?
I am a man model which appears in >80% of clips and i am an owner of stuff.

space_cowgirl
07-26-2021, 12:06 PM
Which signed papers (english version) i need to make for 3000 clips where were fimed me and various girls?
I am a man model which appears in >80% of clips and i am an owner of stuff.
C4S is going to put them on the site in August. Yes, you will need consent forms and ID for each model or else you'll have to remove the videos.

boyru
07-26-2021, 12:30 PM
And i think they might separate stores: nude (adult) and non-nude (fetishes).
I don't think VORE fetish is an adult, if Girl clothed!

space_cowgirl
07-26-2021, 01:59 PM
There's a video in the admin today explaining it more.

justsometwat
07-26-2021, 03:28 PM
Anything listed on a porn site will still require the same paperwork if they are naked or not.

Tea4Me
07-26-2021, 05:32 PM
And i think they might separate stores: nude (adult) and non-nude (fetishes).
I don't think VORE fetish is an adult, if Girl clothed!

Uh.....who is your audience? Guys who are going to jerk off to it? Then yeah, clothed or naked, it's considered Adult Content, which you are selling on an ADULT site.

Tea4Me
07-26-2021, 05:34 PM
There's a video in the admin today explaining it more.


I saw that. I noticed we have to give an address of where our compliance paperwork will be held at and the address WILL BE MADE PUBLIC ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR STORE PAGES. �� Obviously not using a home address, but still...

boyru
07-27-2021, 12:22 AM
russian gov is going to switch off country from global internet
how can i work with c4s if the will do this?

SuperPookie
07-27-2021, 01:40 AM
I saw that. I noticed we have to give an address of where our compliance paperwork will be held at and the address WILL BE MADE PUBLIC ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR STORE PAGES. �� Obviously not using a home address, but still...
Do you mean OUR address ? I thought that was just c4s address.

lilly90xxx
07-27-2021, 05:39 AM
I saw that. I noticed we have to give an address of where our compliance paperwork will be held at and the address WILL BE MADE PUBLIC ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR STORE PAGES. �� Obviously not using a home address, but still...

At first, I was in shock when I saw that we need to add our address- of course I would put there a fake one, but I was worried if it will work. But I watched the video they provided again, and no worries girls, it seems that we have 3 options to choose from we can add a physical address OR email address OR a website. To be fair that new rules are good for one thing- I had a friend who was working for another store on c4s, she was paid once and the person running the store had basically a lifetime revenue from her clips ( now I understand how stupid it was, selling her clips to someone else for not that much money, so they can profit off them forever. But then I wasn't thinking much about her decision). The thing is she died some time ago. And that person knows it. And that person was even called out by the community about it (the guys that are into this fetish). But still, that person refused to take down those clips of hers. So the clips still making money. Maybe I am naive, but this is not right- but maybe not everyone has some basic human decency.

laurielegs
07-27-2021, 01:15 PM
At first, I was in shock when I saw that we need to add our address- of course I would put there a fake one, but I was worried if it will work. But I watched the video they provided again, and no worries girls, it seems that we have 3 options to choose from we can add a physical address OR email address OR a website.

Yes it looks like putting an email address is sufficient.

Tea4Me
07-27-2021, 03:27 PM
At first, I was in shock when I saw that we need to add our address- of course I would put there a fake one, but I was worried if it will work. But I watched the video they provided again, and no worries girls, it seems that we have 3 options to choose from we can add a physical address OR email address OR a website.

Ah.....I would have realized that if I continued watching instead of going "WHAT??!!" and posting here. :P Thanks for pointing that out.

SuperPookie
07-27-2021, 11:22 PM
Thank goodness. I think I'll use my website.