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laurielegs
08-29-2021, 11:13 AM
I could have swore they said something about having a form for legacy content (assuming they mean content posted before Sept 1st, 2021)...?

(Went into the admin to find it...it was in FAQ 1)

"2 - What about Legacy Content? Do I have to go back and update all my clips?
As of September 1st, ALL STUDIOS will have the ability to digitally sign the following declaration, which will be in the COMPLIANCE section of the studio admin, to certify ALL of your Legacy Content:
I declare under the penalty of perjury that I am in possession of and can produce age verification documentation and performers releases for all persons depicted in any content that I have uploaded to the Clips4Sale platform.
The above statement is a blanket certification for all legacy content (legacy content is all content added to C4S prior to September 1st 2021) - BUT - all studios will also have the ability to bulk update their legacy content to add Performer's and classify their content after October 1st as well."

Bulk update would be awesome.

Classy_Katy
09-02-2021, 01:18 AM
Did we ever get FAQ 3? The end of FAQ said it was coming soon but now we're into doing it before we can enter the site.

Tea4Me
09-02-2021, 09:17 AM
No, no FAQ 3 yet.

Laurie, you mentioned you have been going through and adding the Performer Compliance form to all of your clips. Have you noticed any change in the Compliance Dashboard since you've done this?

Yesterday I "digitally signed" the Legacy form for content pre-August 31st, 2021, but I noticed no change. (Yet). Under "Total # of Clips without Performer Compliance Profiles", the number hasn't changed from before. It was my understanding that signing the legacy form would change that. That's why I wondered if you noticed a change since you were doing each one manually....?

Ashley_3
09-02-2021, 09:13 PM
Hi everyone! I've just decided to retire earlier this year, but I still want to upload a video here and there. I'm a little bit confused with the new compliance thing, I'm a solo performer in all clips. Now when I want to upload a video I see that they want me to put Stage name, date of birth, ID and consent. My question is, am I safe to put all my real details in those? Can a customer see it and in what case?

laurielegs
09-03-2021, 12:44 AM
No, no FAQ 3 yet.

Laurie, you mentioned you have been going through and adding the Performer Compliance form to all of your clips. Have you noticed any change in the Compliance Dashboard since you've done this?

Yesterday I "digitally signed" the Legacy form for content pre-August 31st, 2021, but I noticed no change. (Yet). Under "Total # of Clips without Performer Compliance Profiles", the number hasn't changed from before. It was my understanding that signing the legacy form would change that. That's why I wondered if you noticed a change since you were doing each one manually....?

Doing it manually it did update that number.

I just went in now and signed the legacy form and it did not change the number. Hopefully that won't matter and they will fix that later.

Classy_Katy
09-03-2021, 02:51 AM
Hi everyone! I've just decided to retire earlier this year, but I still want to upload a video here and there. I'm a little bit confused with the new compliance thing, I'm a solo performer in all clips. Now when I want to upload a video I see that they want me to put Stage name, date of birth, ID and consent. My question is, am I safe to put all my real details in those? Can a customer see it and in what case?

They've created a warning now about the information that does get shared...they put email address as the last option so it looked like you had to give your home address as that was at the top!


Compliance Record Keeper - Choose One (1) Option Below
Please provide ONE (1) of the following: the physical address where your Compliance Documents are stored, OR the URL for your Compliance Record Keeper Service, OR the Monitored email address for your Designated Compliance Record Keeper.

IMPORTANT: THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BELOW (PHYSICAL ADDRESS or URL or EMAIL) WILL BE POSTED ON YOUR LIVE STORE PAGES IN THE FOOTER.
DO NOT USE YOUR HOME ADDRESS - IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID BUSINESS ADDRESS WHERE THE COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTS ARE STORED - PLEASE ENTER A BUSINESS EMAIL ADDRESS IN THIS SECTION!

Ashley_3
09-03-2021, 08:23 PM
Thank you, Katy! I saw that about the address and I put my email from the beginning. I was wondering more about the details in the consent form that they want me to fill and my ID. Will somebody be able to see those?

Tea4Me
09-04-2021, 03:22 PM
Thank you, Katy! I saw that about the address and I put my email from the beginning. I was wondering more about the details in the consent form that they want me to fill and my ID. Will somebody be able to see those?

We all have to submit that info. As far as I know, that is only for C4S to have on record so they are in compliance with Mastercard's new requirements. So C4S employees are the only ones that I think will be able to view our personal info. I do not believe they are going to give our info to customers, if that is what you are wondering. The only thing that is visible to customers is whatever option we choose for our record keeping info....email address/URL/or street address. That is displayed at the bottom of each store page.

~Carmen~
09-05-2021, 01:21 AM
Hi everyone! I've just decided to retire earlier this year, but I still want to upload a video here and there. I'm a little bit confused with the new compliance thing, I'm a solo performer in all clips. Now when I want to upload a video I see that they want me to put Stage name, date of birth, ID and consent. My question is, am I safe to put all my real details in those? Can a customer see it and in what case?

I'm very confused about this too. How do we fill out the form and sign it? You can't type anything on it. I'm not very savvy in these matters.

Edit: I figured out how to fill in the text but I still can't figure out how to sign it.

Classy_Katy
09-05-2021, 04:41 AM
I'm very confused about this too. How do we fill out the form and sign it? You can't type anything on it. I'm not very savvy in these matters.

Edit: I figured out how to fill in the text but I still can't figure out how to sign it.

I haven't got a clue either but Laurielegs referred to Adobe sign on the previous page.

~Carmen~
09-05-2021, 01:05 PM
I haven't got a clue either but Laurielegs referred to Adobe sign on the previous page.

Thanks Katy and thank you Laurie. I didn't go back far enough on the posts.

As a few others have said, I don't think this is worth the hassle for me. I don't post anymore and I only make around $50 a month. I have never found the site to be user friendly. It's so much easier to upload videos on SM.

laurielegs
09-05-2021, 01:50 PM
I used to do office work so filling out these forms took me about 15 mins. I know it's nerve wracking but it's actually a useful skill to learn how to add a signature. I have used it over and over both for vanilla things and adult work things.

Here is a pretty good instruction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y5ZK0UZH5c

~Carmen~
09-05-2021, 02:19 PM
^I just finished it. I could not have done it without your help. I was about to give up. Thank you so much!!

naomi_doll
09-08-2021, 01:56 PM
Has anyone gotten paid yet? I usually get paid much earlier.

ETA: Nevermind, in the chaos of getting my Boleyn Model studio fixed for compliance, they changed the one that WASN'T in Boleyn. Hopefully I can get it all sorted soon. This credit card compliance stuff is crap. :(

Victoria_Gray
09-09-2021, 12:49 AM
How is everyone going with whatever verification BS is going on?
I went to upload my September audios a while ago and it wanted me to re-verify then I couldn't get the page to load and thought... it's probably not worth the hassle of contacting support and re-visiting the site 10,000 times when I make so little on there. Maybe I should stick to OF/AVN/NF/IWC... but not sure... is it super complicated and annoying re-verification stuff?

boyru
09-11-2021, 12:32 AM
18 U.S. Code § 2256 - Definitions for chapter

(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(ii) bestiality;
(iii) masturbation;
(iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(v) lascivious exhibition of the anus, genitals, or pubic area of any person;

Okay!
What about niches ->
Foot/Shoes crushing of non-alive objects? Vore with gummy bears? Foot smelling? POV Foot domination?

SuperPookie
09-11-2021, 12:48 AM
18 U.S. Code § 2256 - Definitions for chapter

(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(ii) bestiality;
(iii) masturbation;
(iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(v) lascivious exhibition of the anus, genitals, or pubic area of any person;

Okay!
What about niches ->
Foot/Shoes crushing of non-alive objects? Vore with gummy bears? Foot smelling? POV Foot domination?

In my opinion anything created with the intent to arouse is going to be considered pornographic regardless of whether or not it has nudity. I have a lot of non nude giantess and foot fetish content and added my consent form to the new uploaded clips even though it was solo content.
It's up to you but I wouldn't risk losing your entire studio over this.

boyru
09-11-2021, 01:23 AM
In my opinion anything created with the intent to arouse is going to be considered pornographic regardless of whether or not it has nudity. I have a lot of non nude giantess and foot fetish content and added my consent form to the new uploaded clips even though it was solo content.
It's up to you but I wouldn't risk losing your entire studio over this.


I am not figuring on C4S only. Just post text from U.S. Law.
I need up to 20 days to travel and re-sign English version Consent Forms for c4s... It wil cost over $500 for gas.

chloemay
09-11-2021, 06:52 AM
How is everyone going with whatever verification BS is going on?
I went to upload my September audios a while ago and it wanted me to re-verify then I couldn't get the page to load and thought... it's probably not worth the hassle of contacting support and re-visiting the site 10,000 times when I make so little on there. Maybe I should stick to OF/AVN/NF/IWC... but not sure... is it super complicated and annoying re-verification stuff?


The hardest part for me was figuring out how to sign and fill out pdf forms online, in fact I never verified with OF because it was such a hassle with the pictures, so that may be a personal thing. Myfreecams has a more complicated (to me) verification going on now, it may be worth it to suck it up and go through the process as it could happen with all the sites anyway.

Emanuelle
09-11-2021, 02:55 PM
The hardest part for me was figuring out how to sign and fill out pdf forms online, in fact I never verified with OF because it was such a hassle with the pictures, so that may be a personal thing. Myfreecams has a more complicated (to me) verification going on now, it may be worth it to suck it up and go through the process as it could happen with all the sites anyway.

Streamate too. They're making everyone reverify their documents with live photos, which isn't working out well for a lot of models. I think these new verifications will happen on all sites. I would rather just get it done now and decide later whether it was worth it. I actually just got a decent sized check from C4S that I wasn't expecting so I think it's worth it to have a functional studio even if you completely ignore it. You never know when someone will fall in love and buy all your clips.

Emanuelle
09-11-2021, 04:12 PM
That pornhub form has the date and clip description though which we don't need. That's not required according to the FAQ posted on clips4sale. There is no way I'm going through all my clips and adding a different date and description for each video if we don't have to.

Apparently you can just do a generic form for them all then select that form each time from the drop down list when you add a clip if you are a solo performer with no other people in your clips, so that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to type one out myself including the things they are asking for.

Here is what it says in the faq:

"I'm a SOLO Performer and have no one else in any of my clips. Do I have to do a Compliance Profile for myself in my solo store?

Yes, make a Performer Compliance Profile for yourself () with your Photo ID and a general consent and content release for all content (videos and images) on your store posted currently and in the future."

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edited to add -- I finished my form, chose Print on my document and printed as PDF, saved it into a file. Then I used Adobe to sign the form, saved it again with my signature and uploaded it to the compliance link, uploaded a copy of my driver's license on that same page.

After that I was able to choose that form for my old clips, didn't have to make a new one.

It's pretty quick to just pick it from the drop-down list then re-save the clip. I should have them all done by the end of next week, doing a few a day.

Of course will be more complicated if you have others appearing with you.

Thank you. This was really helpful and now I feel like a grown-up. lol

Tea4Me
09-21-2021, 07:03 AM
Anyone getting sales emails today? I haven't got a single one and yet I logged into the admin and I've had sales today.

SFHS
09-21-2021, 02:39 PM
Anyone getting sales emails today? I haven't got a single one and yet I logged into the admin and I've had sales today.

I'm missing some.

Felicia[FightServ]
09-21-2021, 11:29 PM
Not sure how many here used Images4sale, but just saw the admin message that it's being closed next month.
We knew C4SLive was outdated and as good as dead when Flash died, and Videos4sale also outdated.
But Images4sale? While small it was a consistent few hundred a month for multiple clients.
At least wait until there's some sort of integration with C4S before killing another revenue stream.

boyru
09-21-2021, 11:52 PM
i use I4S, because i have > 300.000 images for sale (since 1999).

AlyssaJ
09-23-2021, 07:39 AM
I got an email saying C4S deleted a clip of mine for "intentionally using a banned word". I don't care about the clip in particular as I have hundreds and it was 5 years old. But I have never had complaints and it annoys me I wasn't given the chance to view this or correct it. I have the clip on other sites and can't see anything wrong, though I might have edited that caption since. If it was "intentional" it was some rule I was unaware of at the time, or a change of rules since. It just really bugs me I will never know. The e-mail it also says using banned words can lead to permanent closing of the studio. Great, so one day my studio might just be gone and I will not even be given the details on why?

laurielegs
09-23-2021, 12:44 PM
I got an email saying C4S deleted a clip of mine for "intentionally using a banned word". I don't care about the clip in particular as I have hundreds and it was 5 years old. But I have never had complaints and it annoys me I wasn't given the chance to view this or correct it. I have the clip on other sites and can't see anything wrong, though I might have edited that caption since. If it was "intentional" it was some rule I was unaware of at the time, or a change of rules since. It just really bugs me I will never know. The e-mail it also says using banned words can lead to permanent closing of the studio. Great, so one day my studio might just be gone and I will not even be given the details on why?

Maybe email and ask them for specifics. If they don't give us specifics how are we ever going to know what not to do? So annoying.

nattyfetish
09-25-2021, 11:52 PM
what is happening with clips4sale ??? this month i had 100 $ worth of clips refunds ! WTF ! Are they buying the clips and than asking for refunds and they get away with owning the clips and also gettin their money back ? Cause I doubt this is just frauds.

boyru
09-26-2021, 12:06 AM
what is happening with clips4sale ??? this month i had 100 $ worth of clips refunds ! WTF ! Are they buying the clips and than asking for refunds and they get away with owning the clips and also gettin their money back ? Cause I doubt this is just frauds.

Yes! They have clips and money back :(

boyru
09-26-2021, 12:07 AM
The C4S does not work!
I can not choose files (uploaded via FTP) and make new clips.

55974

Classy_Katy
09-26-2021, 05:08 AM
I still haven't done my consent form for C4S yet but I've had this from Adultwork, which I thought sounded helpful as Mastercard's requirements are the same everywhere:

Content creators must obtain and keep on record written consent from all persons depicted in the content specific to the following areas:

Consent to be depicted in the content.
Consent to allow for the public distribution of the content and to upload the content to the AdultWork.com website.
If the content will be made available for downloading by other users, consent to have the content downloaded.
MasterCard requires the content creator to verify the identity and age of all persons, depicted in the content, are adults and to be able to provide supporting documents upon request.

AdultWork.com must only permit content uploads from verified content providers.

More information will be supplied, including a step-by-step guide to help you with the new regulations and advice on how this will affect your content which is already uploaded to your profile.

boyru
09-28-2021, 12:04 PM
Is it possible to de-activate 1300 clips by 7 clicks?
I can not fly to cities where Girls live since 2010xx years :(

laurielegs
09-28-2021, 12:40 PM
Is it possible to de-activate 1300 clips by 7 clicks?
I can not fly to cities where Girls live since 2010xx years :(

You should call or email support. None of us know these answers to your questions. We are just clip uploaders like you are.

https://www.clips4sale.com/clips/page/support

Click on Studio support and submit a ticket.

boyru
09-29-2021, 12:53 AM
bad news from russia
putin is going to swithch russians from global intenet
how can we work after this?

boyru
09-29-2021, 12:39 PM
is Neil still the director/owner of C4S Site or not?
i see someone named DARIUSZ instead of Neil

justsometwat
09-29-2021, 01:43 PM
You need to pay better attention to the admin messages as well as the things people post here.

boyru
09-29-2021, 11:28 PM
You need to pay better attention to the admin messages as well as the things people post here.

I see only 5 last amin messages
i love NEIL please let him back!!!

SuperPookie
10-03-2021, 03:48 AM
I try to fill out the legacy section but it keeps saying my name must match the uploaded i.d but it frigging does.

liquidsilk
10-04-2021, 07:27 AM
anyone having trouble logging in today?

justsometwat
10-04-2021, 07:31 AM
Yep, can't log in

TXCamgirl
10-06-2021, 01:48 PM
So regarding the newest admin update that was just released, all videos will have a mandatory content review before it is posted on the site.

I wonder how this is going to work with taboo content? Obviously the wording has already been changed to include "step" infront of any family word but are they going to reject content if "step" is NOT SAID infront of every family word in the clip?

I mean seriously, that is going to be major stupid.

naomi_doll
10-06-2021, 02:01 PM
I wonder how many clips are loaded every day? I wonder if they have the staff to review them all fast enough?

justsometwat
10-06-2021, 02:09 PM
Words cannot express how much I hate this change.

ANDDDDD the servers are fucky lately, so it is gonna be a massive pain in the ass waiting for all of these videos to go live.

ericachronic
10-06-2021, 03:17 PM
So now they have to check the clips manually for approval? Is that even possible? Now I wonder how many days in advanced you need to schedule stuff to make sure its released on time?

Luna66
10-06-2021, 03:42 PM
Interesting. I remember telling a friend that with all the Visa/Mastercard/legal bullshit, the only way to actually guarantee that porn sites would stay legal and profitable was for them to manually check every single video before it's released. But I never thought they'd do it because of the insane amount of money it would cost, I mean surely they'll need literally hundreds of staff to do this?

I'm in two minds. I'm not excited. The rules are super vague and it's incredibly easy to use the wrong word or just accidentally slip onto the wrong side of a careful line (e.g. mesmerize vs hypnotize). It's going to mean that even such tiny, accidental violations or language issues will be flagged every single time, and I'm concerned about how that might cause:

1. Videos you thought you'd be able to sell not being allowed, and therefore filming, editing, rendering, uploading them etc. was a waste of time.

2. Repeated small, accidental violations adding up to getting your entire store deleted and you being permanently banned (which they mention in the admin post is a possibility).

But on the other hand, this will mean that:

1. Clips4Sale isn't going to get shut down or have their Visa/Mastercard processing pulled. This has been a fear of mine for a while, seeing as it makes up the majority of my income!

2. At least the policing of the rules will be a bit more fair now. In the past it was just based on reports, so if you had a disgruntled customer or a "rival" clip maker, they could go through and report all the videos where you flirted with the lines and then you'd be in trouble. At least this will apply to everyone equally (in theory).

WonderWoman0642
10-06-2021, 04:11 PM
I just saw this in the admin. I wonder why they are the only ones doing this? I'm on Manyvids too and it's business as usual. Im wondering if the other sites will follow Clips4sale or if Clips4sale is being overly paranoid.

lilly90xxx
10-07-2021, 02:34 AM
Girls, did you receive this month's payout ( I am asking the ones that use international wire transfer)? Usually, I get mine on the 4th of the month, but this time still waiting. I contacted support an hour ago but for now, I have no answer from them.

yumei
10-07-2021, 04:55 AM
Girls, did you receive this month's payout ( I am asking the ones that use international wire transfer)? Usually, I get mine on the 4th of the month, but this time still waiting. I contacted support an hour ago but for now, I have no answer from them.


nope i got no payout from them too;/

Tea4Me
10-07-2021, 07:52 AM
I hesitated mentioning this because I wanted to see if anyone else had payout issues first.

I received my check (in the US) on the 5th, which was a day or two earlier than I normally get it. I deposited it into an ATM and it showed in my account as pending. Then next day I checked my bank account and there had been an ATM adjustment done and the check deposit was reversed/removed from my account. ??? I called my bank, wanting to know why this happened. They researched it and called me back a couple of hours later. The account the check was drawn on was CLOSED. Oh wow...... I know there have been a lot of changes going on at C4S but this looked REALLY bad.

I was pissed (duh! lol) and called C4S to find out what's going on. The guy I spoke with made a comment that he knew they had closed an account a month or two ago, but that I had to talk to Gia in billing to get this resolved. I've been in touch with her, she apologized about this, put in a request for a transfer and said I should have the money early next week.

I'm *hoping* this is just a weird hiccup with all of the recent changes at C4S, but I'm not going to feel better until I know the money is in my account.

PixiieGirl
10-07-2021, 08:30 AM
Interesting. I remember telling a friend that with all the Visa/Mastercard/legal bullshit, the only way to actually guarantee that porn sites would stay legal and profitable was for them to manually check every single video before it's released. But I never thought they'd do it because of the insane amount of money it would cost, I mean surely they'll need literally hundreds of staff to do this?

I'm in two minds. I'm not excited. The rules are super vague and it's incredibly easy to use the wrong word or just accidentally slip onto the wrong side of a careful line (e.g. mesmerize vs hypnotize). It's going to mean that even such tiny, accidental violations or language issues will be flagged every single time, and I'm concerned about how that might cause:

1. Videos you thought you'd be able to sell not being allowed, and therefore filming, editing, rendering, uploading them etc. was a waste of time.

2. Repeated small, accidental violations adding up to getting your entire store deleted and you being permanently banned (which they mention in the admin post is a possibility).

But on the other hand, this will mean that:

1. Clips4Sale isn't going to get shut down or have their Visa/Mastercard processing pulled. This has been a fear of mine for a while, seeing as it makes up the majority of my income!

2. At least the policing of the rules will be a bit more fair now. In the past it was just based on reports, so if you had a disgruntled customer or a "rival" clip maker, they could go through and report all the videos where you flirted with the lines and then you'd be in trouble. At least this will apply to everyone equally (in theory).
its literally part of mastercards new requirements - that all adult content be "pre-moderated" - its the thing thats been concerning me the most tbh cause idk how site can do it - especially sites like camsites or OF where "live" sexting is a thing - the only way I can think it'll be done without huge manpower being needed is through AI?

ETA: heres the policy link if anyone hasnt seen it: https://www.mastercard.com/news/perspectives/2021/protecting-our-network-protecting-you-preventing-illegal-adult-content-on-our-network/