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Kaley
10-18-2011, 09:43 AM
Ok so my intention was to delete the movie from the store as soon as the original guy bought it, however, as I've sold two copies to other guys, I'm thinking of leaving it there, but is that fair to the originator? It was custom made for him, but then again if other guys are buying it knowing it is a custom job, I'm happy to take their $$$. What do you think girls? leave it delete it?

I also have a custom job from a year or so ago for a guy on AW, so now I'm thinking I could stick that in my store too, so again what do you think girls?

I don't have a store yet, but while looking around at other girls stores to get a feel for things, i saw a couple that were marked *custom*. I say keep it up if you're getting that money

hidarlin
10-18-2011, 09:49 AM
It's quite common to see custom clips in girls' stores. I wish a custom guy would be pissed because I left a clip in my store *handwaves* He got what he payed for what you do with the clip after is your business. He has no right to complain. Custom and exclusive are not the same thing. He is entitled to a custom clip, doesn't mean others can't watch it. It's in a public store. I would not worry about it, at all.

Missymissdemeanour
10-18-2011, 10:04 AM
For the one from aw yes def, but the new one i'd maybe ask the guy if he minds, i know other girls will say fuck it lol. Yeah I see where you're coming from, but I think I will leave it and see if he contacts me ;).

Thanks for your input girls, much appreciated :)

limecoconut
10-18-2011, 10:55 AM
I just got my 10th clip up to open my store and posted the link on my twitter last night, when I woke up this morning I already have 2 clips sold! :) I like this hehe. Question, can we post a link back to our cam site and amazon wishlist at the top banner?

Tsani
10-18-2011, 12:12 PM
I think I remember seeing something on C4S that said we can post links and banners and stuff on our store but I could be wrong. My store isn't live yet as I don't have 10 clips yet.

MissKatie
10-18-2011, 12:39 PM
Yes you can post links but they won't be live for 30 days (sucks!)

Tsani
10-18-2011, 12:49 PM
Seriously?? Wow....

Sinistress
10-18-2011, 01:30 PM
Honestly my custom clips are the ones that sell the best. They don't generally care that your using other peoples names. Course alot of my clips are based on characters (my sissys) such as trixie monica tina
And they get caught up in the story line like...what's she gonna be told to do next so they buy it.

As for it being fair to the guy who requested it weather it gets resold or not I just follow this rule....A custom clip to me isn't priced any different than any other clip. They are well aware it will be resold multiple times.
If they do not want it to be sold I consider it an exclusive clip and charge them 100 dollars per video.

I also do not let the original person who requested it pay me on clips4sale.So that I get the full amount of money for making it. Generally they pay me directly using other methods,and once they have paid and recieved it then I upload it onto clips4sale for everyone else to buy it.

mistresscyn
10-19-2011, 05:27 PM
Most girls sell clips at $5-$10/min regardless of the content (nudity, sex, etc). For most of these guys, what you're doing is equivalent to sex. (Know faaaarrr too many fetishists to think otherwise.) C4S is known for not doing well with vanilla hardcore clips, so don't think that just because you're not talking it in the ass that it isn't worth a mark-up.

As far as reselling customs, you legally own the copyright to the material. Unless the guy wants to purchase the copyright off of you (re: 'Exclusive') then you can resell it without any issues. Most girls will post the clip in the their store at the price that the guy was quoted, and then they'll mark it down to something more reasonable after he's bought it.

And I'd take advantage of posting your links in your newsletter as it goes to all the people who've bought from you previously (unless they choose to opt out). Nothing like targeted marketing!

MissEgo
10-19-2011, 07:10 PM
When you sign up and it says "Contact Name"... is that your REAL name? omg such a newb question lol

EDIT: Nevermind. I'm still living with my parents, and getting my hands on a utility bill would be impossible. C4S will have to wait.

Tsani
10-19-2011, 08:11 PM
I used a school tuition bill. They'll take just about any sort of official mail that has your name on it.

MissKatie
10-19-2011, 08:41 PM
What is this newsletter? I can see the email button but it only says there are 6 addresses i can contact??

mistresscyn
10-19-2011, 08:46 PM
What is this newsletter? I can see the email button but it only says there are 6 addresses i can contact??

Yes, you can only message prior customers that have opted in to receive messages from you.

Tsani
10-19-2011, 09:08 PM
I'm confused about the minimum payout. Obviously I set mine at the lowest possible option, but the first two options on the drop down list have asterisks * next to them. What does that mean? I've got my payment option set to check, what's the minimum for those?

Missymissdemeanour
10-20-2011, 06:52 AM
What is this newsletter? I can see the email button but it only says there are 6 addresses i can contact??

Where's this email button? lol I can't see one :-\

Englishprincess
10-20-2011, 07:32 AM
The cheques are in US $ that we receive here in the UK.

So you have to factor in the charge from your bank (I think Nationwide charge between £5/£7) and the exchange rate.
At the moment,with the fees taken out,you'd get around £90 for the minimum payout of $150 :)

CamWhore
10-20-2011, 07:48 AM
it the guy wants an exclusive clip, make him pay extra...
I will start doing this soon.

I will charge $75 custom , $100 exclusive custom

MissKatie
10-20-2011, 03:15 PM
The cheques are in US $ that we receive here in the UK.

So you have to factor in the charge from your bank (I think Nationwide charge between £5/£7) and the exchange rate.
At the moment,with the fees taken out,you'd get around £90 for the minimum payout of $150 :)

With the cheque though you have to wait however long for it to arrive, then almost a week for bank to process it. I'm thinking of just letting my c4s money build up then paying the $45 for bank transfer.

Englishprincess
10-21-2011, 12:00 AM
With the cheque though you have to wait however long for it to arrive, then almost a week for bank to process it. I'm thinking of just letting my c4s money build up then paying the $45 for bank transfer.

Yep-the wonders of getting paid from the US 8)
However,I noticed that the cheques come super quick from them-I'm pretty sure just a few days after the money goes from your account. And Nationwide tends to process my cheques within 5 days.

To be honest-I'm used to it,as I worked for NF for so long,the only option to the UK was cheque,they paid once a month-it took around 3 weeks to get the cheque,then,quite often,my old bank took a month to process the payment::)

So I can deal with waiting. Obviously not good though if you're relying on a payment and wanting it asap!

BeautifulDisaster
10-21-2011, 01:07 AM
This might be a really dumb question, but if you're in the US and get paid via direct deposit do you get charged a fee for it?

MissKatie
10-21-2011, 02:28 AM
Yes i think your fee is $20

Bird of Paradise
10-21-2011, 03:00 AM
This might be a really dumb question, but if you're in the US and get paid via direct deposit do you get charged a fee for it?

Not a dumb question at all! They don't make it very clear, which really irritated me when I signed up.
In the U.S., they charge a $20 fee if you select wire transfer but not for ACH (bank draft/direct deposit type thingie). So if you don't want to pay the $20 for the federal reserve/within a day transfer to your account, just pick ACH option and enter your bank info, and it'll take a bit longer to deposit into your account from their bank than a wire transfer, but no charge.

Bird of Paradise
10-21-2011, 03:22 AM
Last night I recorded multiple separate clips for a custom request that I had to buy a few special supplies for, everything looked all good and I checked my focus/light/settings, then when finished I checked and the picture was great but the sound was crap. I'd somehow not noticed that the mic sound settings were changed to use my shitty laptop microphone instead of my C910 mic, so I was talking at my tripod with the cam on it while being sound-recorded by the POS laptop mic.

Then I play it back, thinking I'm all hot sh*t, and all you could hear was hissing from my laptop cooling fan and the ticks and pops of the mic feedback. lol!

Recorded lots of clips and never had that happen til now :dunce:

What a fail! Next time I'll check ALL my settings twice, instead of having to make another trip to the store in the middle of the night to get new supplies to redo the clip. Derp!

Tinsley
10-21-2011, 05:07 PM
I finally got off my ass and made enough clips to have 10, I have 11 now. Do I need to contact them and let them know or will my store automatically be activated? I regret not doing it sooner as I opened my store up about a month or so ago T_T

Bird of Paradise
10-21-2011, 05:40 PM
I finally got off my ass and made enough clips to have 10, I have 11 now. Do I need to contact them and let them know or will my store automatically be activated? I regret not doing it sooner as I opened my store up about a month or so ago T_T

Yes, you need to contact them. Just send an email to support that says 'hey, my store has 10+ clips and I'm ready to accept orders" and they'll give you a support ticket number and should activate you within about 8 hours

Tinsley
10-21-2011, 06:58 PM
Yes, you need to contact them. Just send an email to support that says 'hey, my store has 10+ clips and I'm ready to accept orders" and they'll give you a support ticket number and should activate you within about 8 hours

Thank you! I've contacted them so hopefully it won't take too long.
Another question, do you girls use the auto animated image or do you use a still photo? Right now I have it to make the animated preview but some of them look kind of crappy/stupid.

HaydenBlue
10-21-2011, 08:22 PM
Thank you! I've contacted them so hopefully it won't take too long.
Another question, do you girls use the auto animated image or do you use a still photo? Right now I have it to make the animated preview but some of them look kind of crappy/stupid.

Take screens of your video then download PhotoScape and use the animated GIF part of the program to piece your new stills together.

MissEgo
10-22-2011, 10:11 AM
Goddamnit. My bank processes international payments stupidly. First it goes to a bank in the states, then it goes to a bank in Ontario, and THEN it comes to my bank. SO I have to fill out payment info for THREE banks, but c4s only has space for two.
I know I have the info written down somewhere but I can`t find it now, which means I`ll have to go back into my bank and ask again... and the last time I did that it was like I was being interrogated! "where is the money coming from" "who's paying you" "what amounts are you expecting" piss off just give me my banking info... :( :(

Fallenangel2904
10-23-2011, 02:24 AM
I have one more question....do they issue checks through a US bank or is it international? I'm in the US and have a checking account through my college bank but just found out they do not accept international checks.

HaydenBlue
10-23-2011, 03:35 AM
I have one more question....do they issue checks through a US bank or is it international? I'm in the US and have a checking account through my college bank but just found out they do not accept international checks.

I can't remember but if it is you can always cash it at Walmart. I've never had a problem cashing any of my camming checks there and fee's are only $3-$6 max.

MissKatie
10-23-2011, 09:29 AM
C4S is a strange beast...

CamWhore
10-23-2011, 11:17 AM
^^^ its not cam money. Its residual income.

laurielegs
10-23-2011, 11:18 AM
I have one more question....do they issue checks through a US bank or is it international? I'm in the US and have a checking account through my college bank but just found out they do not accept international checks.

Why not use direct deposit? It's free through them.

Just choose ACH

HaydenBlue
10-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Everyone says that updates are key to C4S. But I am not seeing this. My best day so far for sales (13 clips) was a day i added nothing new at all. I usually put 2 - 3 up per day, and no less than 1, but on those days i put up more i'm actually getting less sales. C4S is a strange beast...


It's sales. Remember those women who would go door to door and sell Avon? Or those guys who would go around and sell vacuums. Not everyone wants your stuff.

Keep updating. Keep consistent. Open another store. Try different fetishes. It's long-term income. You can make a good chunk of your income from it but it takes time to build up to that point.

I've only just started becoming consistent with my stores and uploading regularly. I'm hitting $10 - $20/days. I've had a store open since June 2011. It's a learning curve.

Like CamWhore and roast have mentioned before, it's passive income, not camming. You aren't going to make $100/day on your first, second, third day or even your first couple of months. But you can get to that point.

You really can't keep doing it and complaining about it. You have take it and realize it for what it is.


But maybe if you aren't getting sales quit uploading for a few days. Let your guys miss seeing your name in the recently updated studios. Use your downtime to get ahead and make a bunch of clips. Try different fetishes.

One of my favorite quotes is, "Insanity is the act of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Einstein.

Change it up and see if that makes a difference. ;)

MissKatie
10-23-2011, 05:02 PM
Re other stores, i've seen girls do that. Is it just for your different categories? Does it make a difference to have more stores i.e. more possible sales?

Tsani
10-23-2011, 11:19 PM
If I want to use my bf's dick in a video (won't be showing his face, I would just be filming me giving him a foot job, etc.) do I need to fill out paperwork for him?

HaydenBlue
10-24-2011, 12:17 AM
If I want to use my bf's dick in a video (won't be showing his face, I would just be filming me giving him a foot job, etc.) do I need to fill out paperwork for him?

He needs to print out and fill out a model release form. Yes it's just a dick but better to be safe than sorry. What if he left you and flipped his shit and decided to sue you for the "bad videos" you have for sale on the internet. ::) It's happened.

To be totally safe if you are making clips with bf/gf/hubby, etc you should fill out the paperwork EACH time a clip is made. Save it. File it away somewhere.

Tinsley
10-24-2011, 11:27 PM
Yay, I opened my store officially about two or three days and I finally sold three clips and got a request for a custom video :) I'm afraid of charging too much for a custom though and then he not want it. What's a good price?

CamWhore
10-25-2011, 06:07 AM
^^^ id say nothing less than 100$ its easier going down than up.

xXSophiaXx
10-26-2011, 12:18 AM
When you have a C4S store, do you just pick one category for your store? Like all your clips have to be bondage for example and open other stores for diff categories or can you upload different categories to your store?

CamWhore
10-26-2011, 04:59 AM
^^^ thats up to you. A few girls I know have multiple stores but after awhile they just make it one store.

Only you will know if it is really necessary or not.

I just opened up another store becuase in one store it will have nudity in it, the other i want it straight focused on something else, ( even though they are all under the femdom umbrella)

innes
10-28-2011, 05:56 PM
Looks like this question has been answered BUT I want to make sure it is okay and allowed to open two stores.

I want to have my normal store with things that I really enjoy (masturbation, balloon fetish, foot fetish) and then another for "gross" things. I made a hiccupping video and it's my top seller! So I'm think of doing burping videos, etc. ... but I don't want that in the same store as my "main" masturbation, balloon fetish, foot fetish.

Is this allowed?

Also, can I move my hiccupping video from my main store to this new "gross" store (I need to make up a name for it lol).

thanks :)

MissKatie
10-28-2011, 06:59 PM
Yes you can have more than one store, but i don't know about moving your clips around, maybe someone who has done this could shed some light?

My own c4s is now doing ok, and I'm getting a few custom requests. The issue is that the two i have done so far took me sooo long to edit and then upload i am wondering if i should be charging more. I'm charging $4 per min and one clip was 7 mins, the other 10.. but i ended up filming WAY more than i needed to because i just didn't know how to get it spot on first time around. It took around 3 hours to edit the first one, and then windows live movie maker crashed and i had to start over *cries*. So in total it took around 5 hours to edit. I wasn't camming that day, but it if i had of been that's 5 hours lost where i could be making £70 - £100 per hour!!! Out of that one vid i got maybe £10?? LOL. Need a rethink....

HaydenBlue
10-28-2011, 09:19 PM
Looks like this question has been answered BUT I want to make sure it is okay and allowed to open two stores.

I want to have my normal store with things that I really enjoy (masturbation, balloon fetish, foot fetish) and then another for "gross" things. I made a hiccupping video and it's my top seller! So I'm think of doing burping videos, etc. ... but I don't want that in the same store as my "main" masturbation, balloon fetish, foot fetish.

Is this allowed?

Also, can I move my hiccupping video from my main store to this new "gross" store (I need to make up a name for it lol).

thanks :)

I have a "gross" store and a "normal" store too, lol.

YES, you can have as many stores are you want. Just know it could be more difficult, the more stores you open...keeping each site updated regularly, etc. but you could be awesome at it - everyone's different.

YES, you can move clips around. example: you have a burping clip in your "normal" store and want to move it to the "gross" store. you must completely delete the burping clip in from your "normal" store then you can upload that same clip, same price, same description, same title, etc. to wherever else you want.

she sells sanctuary
10-28-2011, 10:10 PM
^ would that mean you could have the same clip in multiple stores?

HaydenBlue
10-28-2011, 10:34 PM
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CamWhore
10-29-2011, 05:22 AM
thats why customs should be sort of expensive, they take alot of time.

I know a handful of girls that charge $150 no matter how long the video is, because the editing and props, and makeup is added in too.

time is money.... so where the supplies you bought to make the video exceptional.

Im never afraid to ask for what I really want. I always used to resent not asking for the price that I wanted in the past. If they dont want MY custom video for $100 then goodbye, your not my customer. I dont jump through hoops for my business. And a real man wouldnt allow me too. More money elsewhere attitude.....lol

Customs are trial and error though.

CamWhore
10-29-2011, 05:23 AM
I think $4 is going to burn you out. Thats the price of medium priced camshow.
Now imagine if you had to edit all your camshows. $4 isnt worth it.


especially when they get to keep it forever.

CandaceMoon
10-30-2011, 08:11 AM
I have said that always. I do not negotiate on my prices. For customs, for cam shows, for panties or whatever it is that I am selling. If you want to buy MY custom clip, MY panties, MY whatever...then you are gonna pay MY price for it. If it's too expensive...well...either save your pennies and come back, or go find someone else. Yes, I know so and so girl sells them for cheaper. Do I care? No. If you want cheaper go buy hers. LOL

The ONLY time that I cut deals or am willing to negotiate is for extremely dedicated customers. Those who have spent alot of money with me.

HaydenBlue
10-30-2011, 07:09 PM
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