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AlyssaJ
06-21-2022, 05:13 AM
Don't waste your time like I did filming Mesmerize or Executrix content anymore. Even solo. Compliance is riding those categories hard and even the use of the words in the video is causing denials. Why are the categories even still up if the subjects aren't allowed on the site??? I mean I guess I'm glad as I have some old content there still up, but I won't be filming any new content like this anymore. I wonder how long Taboo or Vampire will last.
Agree. This is why it's dangerous to be too niched. You might be on top for a while but anything can happen that will wipe a category out. New rules, stricter interpretations, competition off site or just removal of the category without warning. Executrix seems to have significantly lower traffic than just a year ago. Probably because creators are forced to do content so lame it's ridiculous. Like why watch someone pretending to "end" you with an invisible weapon when you can go to CBT or BDSM categories and see real people get real injuries (if that's your thing) Or just go to Youtube and watch crime doc.
Just recently I had a POV executrix/vore clip approved, only to be removed an hour later quoting the "no depiction of someone getting maimed or killed". I argued it doesn't show _anything_, it's OBVIOUS roleplay/fantasy with NOONE else there, and also, how on earth is it then possible to have those two categories at all? Clip got approved again lol. But yes, if things continue down this road we can say goodbye to any niche that uses "crime" or "violence" roleplay in a way that is not traditionally associated with sex/porn. And maybe those too. I've had several customers tell me they'd support my own site but I can't see how there are any reliable payment options anywhere that aren't relying on Visa/Mastercard. As far as we are told these are behind this skewed moralism - but probably there is a bigger picture too with more conservative politics and commercial interests (seeing how this is hitting small indie producers much more than the production companies)
SophiaSylvan
06-21-2022, 10:37 AM
Alyssa, the anti-porn groups have been coming HARD for us via political pressure, heavy rebranding of sex work as sex trafficking (really, groups like Exodus Cry paid a literal fortune for this, and it's been working), and coming for the money (the credit card companies) are what's been behind all these compliance changes. It doesn't help that many adult sites have been lax about documentation and following the law, hopefully now that most of them are rigorously doing so this is as far as things will go.
AlyssaJ
06-23-2022, 02:04 AM
Just noticed some of my clips with "step-" in the titles (step-mom, step-sister etc) now has an extra "step-" added in the store. Like "Your Step-Step-Sister's Dream". Don't know how long that's been as in my admin clip list they are all titled correctly. They are all named the same in their form (with just one "step") and I don't want to edit as that might get the clip disapproved/removed. If you add a new clip with a family relation in the title without adding "step-" to it, will the system add it automatically or does it say you have to go back and change the title? It's not a big deal but it looks stupid :P
Natalie0523
06-24-2022, 01:38 PM
Just noticed some of my clips with "step-" in the titles (step-mom, step-sister etc) now has an extra "step-" added in the store. Like "Your Step-Step-Sister's Dream". Don't know how long that's been as in my admin clip list they are all titled correctly. They are all named the same in their form (with just one "step") and I don't want to edit as that might get the clip disapproved/removed. If you add a new clip with a family relation in the title without adding "step-" to it, will the system add it automatically or does it say you have to go back and change the title? It's not a big deal but it looks stupid :P
I also just noticed this yesterday on all my older clips. I figured I just hadn't seen it before but maybe it's something new? Agreed, looks stupid.
MissAdriana
06-25-2022, 07:05 AM
AlyssaJ I agree with everything you say!
SophiaSylvan
06-25-2022, 07:27 AM
Just noticed some of my clips with "step-" in the titles (step-mom, step-sister etc) now has an extra "step-" added in the store. Like "Your Step-Step-Sister's Dream". Don't know how long that's been as in my admin clip list they are all titled correctly. They are all named the same in their form (with just one "step") and I don't want to edit as that might get the clip disapproved/removed. If you add a new clip with a family relation in the title without adding "step-" to it, will the system add it automatically or does it say you have to go back and change the title? It's not a big deal but it looks stupid :P
I was laughing at this too and joking that in future for clips we will have things like step-step-step second adopted cousin or step aunt-in-law to get past the system
lilly90xxx
06-30-2022, 05:37 AM
After clips4sale admin message about taking down some scam site, I started looking for this type of sites.
So I found another two sites with my clips, and let the support know about that.
One of the sites was actually a scam site, but the second one was the site that c4s use for bringing traffic to our stores.
So here is the thing for girls that blocked their countries on c4s (I've done that since I don't want people from my country viewing my store, I know that there are VPN services know, but I hope not all men are the sharpest knife in the drawer, at least in my country haha:D I just feel a little bit safer blocking it)
And here is bad news, this site that helps bring traffic to our stores, is visible for the country you blocked, which means they can see all your gifs and previews
I wrote back to support if there's a way to block the country there too, and if not I want to be removed from there, as I am fine with less traffic and money just to feel safer. Now I am waiting for their response.
If any of you girls are like me and wanna know about the site, write me a private message since I don't wanna post it here, not knowing who could read this forum besides us (but I also guess you could find it by googling your stage name while looking for pirated content)
Felicia[FightServ]
06-30-2022, 06:14 PM
Anyone else having longer than usual waits to get something approved? It's slowed down since about Memorial day but now got a clip sitting there for nearly 4 hours and still not approved.
SophiaSylvan
06-30-2022, 06:34 PM
Yeah definitely, I thought it was because it was an executrix clip, but then a sissy panty clip didn't get reviewed yet either. Seems like since early afternoon ET. The others I queued for the weekend earlier today have been approved at a reasonable pace.
ericachronic
07-05-2022, 09:40 AM
Just as a heads up some of the new landing pages on C4S will show a auto generated preview video for your clip even though you have your clip set to ONLY display your animated GIF or just a preview picture and you have disabled the preview video.
It will also show the auto generated preview video instead of the preview video you upload. This totally sucks because on some of them it will show the "money shots" for free.
Kinda upset with this because now people can watch portions of your video for free and if you post heavily in the clothing fetish type categories this ruins your sales.
I emailed them about this like 2 weeks ago and never heard back. Now pirate sites are linking to these pages allowing them to watch partial clips of your videos that you didn't approve of.
If any producers want to check your site on these new landing pages PM me and I can provide some example links. The more of us that complain to C4S the quicker they will fix this "exploit".
SophiaSylvan
07-06-2022, 07:09 AM
Anyone else noticing a rapid escalation of clips being put in Pending status for compliance, or denied? I'm starting to feel like I have to avoid Taboo, Executrix, "Make me bi"/Gay Humiliation, Mesmerize, etc. categories altogether, and play it safe. It sucks because I found the edgy stuff the most fun to film. Hope this doesn't mean they are under intense scrutiny right now from the cc companies but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever.
WonderWoman0642
07-06-2022, 09:52 AM
^Yes, I noticed. I also noticed the taboo category moves a lot slower too. My clips are still being approved but it's taking longer and longer. I try not to complain on here, but I'm really losing my patience with Clips4sale. It kills my motivation not knowing if clips will be approved on time. And I feel like I'm holding back more in taboo clips. I used to have so much fun with it. Also, I still can't see my stats. It used to be very helpful to see where my traffic was coming from. Sales were good for me on the 4th of July holiday but then died down. It will be interesting to see how this month goes.
laurielegs
07-06-2022, 11:06 AM
Don't waste your time like I did filming Mesmerize or Executrix content anymore. Even solo. Compliance is riding those categories hard and even the use of the words in the video is causing denials. Why are the categories even still up if the subjects aren't allowed on the site??? I mean I guess I'm glad as I have some old content there still up, but I won't be filming any new content like this anymore. I wonder how long Taboo or Vampire will last.
Did they give a reason yours didn't get approved? I have several stores and one of mine is mostly mesmerize and all my clips still get approved, usually within an hour. At least once a week I try to post a mesmerize clip.
I could pivot to something else but that's my favorite category to film and for me they sell more than my other content. I'm super careful in the descriptions though not to mention anything about hypno or trance.
Growlerpussy
07-07-2022, 09:22 AM
Yep, same here. Some categories take way longer, i had some mindfuck audios, and it took 2 hours for them to disapprove them. They could exactly tell e at what time I said some forbidden words I'm not allowed to use. And my mesmerize audios are with echo and backgroundmusic. So i guess they have a very advanced program to find words in files. I'm happy I have NF for popper files and other Hypnofiles ......
AlyssaJ
07-07-2022, 10:20 AM
Anyone else noticing a rapid escalation of clips being put in Pending status for compliance, or denied? I'm starting to feel like I have to avoid Taboo, Executrix, "Make me bi"/Gay Humiliation, Mesmerize, etc. categories altogether, and play it safe. It sucks because I found the edgy stuff the most fun to film. Hope this doesn't mean they are under intense scrutiny right now from the cc companies but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever.
I love the edgy stuff so much more too, being evil is pretty much all of my clips. I am definitely holding back as it's all a greyzone now. Sometimes it sparks creativity, for example using common house hold tools as murder weapons lol. But there are only so much you can do when more and more things gets banned. And I really don't see how this makes porn any safer for anyone.
laurielegs
07-07-2022, 10:43 AM
Yep, same here. Some categories take way longer, i had some mindfuck audios, and it took 2 hours for them to disapprove them. They could exactly tell e at what time I said some forbidden words I'm not allowed to use. And my mesmerize audios are with echo and backgroundmusic. So i guess they have a very advanced program to find words in files. I'm happy I have NF for popper files and other Hypnofiles ......
Interesting.
Mind sharing what words they flagged? I'm trying to be super careful what I say because mesmerize / mindfuck content is my favorite.
SophiaSylvan
07-07-2022, 06:09 PM
^Yes, I noticed. I also noticed the taboo category moves a lot slower too. My clips are still being approved but it's taking longer and longer. I try not to complain on here, but I'm really losing my patience with Clips4sale. It kills my motivation not knowing if clips will be approved on time. And I feel like I'm holding back more in taboo clips. I used to have so much fun with it. Also, I still can't see my stats. It used to be very helpful to see where my traffic was coming from. Sales were good for me on the 4th of July holiday but then died down. It will be interesting to see how this month goes.
Well, I don't blame c4s. I'm sure they don't want to lose money on categories that are very popular going down the drain. They want to keep the site alive. My impression is the cc companies seem to be in active review of the site or they received some warning and that's why they're being super strict. I'm all of for the site staying up as we ride through these difficult political times. I'm blaming the anti-porn lobby and the weak ass coward credit card companies, and the Christian right.
laurielegs
07-07-2022, 10:18 PM
I had a clip that featured hypnosis and I said it once in the video, and they told me that word had to be removed from the audio. It seems like a shift to them paying attention to what is done or said in the clip too. I had a couple of solo executrix clips removed completely this month for featuring video content or audio content that was too edgy (I used a mannequin and wrapped it in a garbage bag for one, no go there, and for the other it was denied-a custom I talked about executing someone's mom and married his father). Then one where I offed someone by crushing their windpipe with my foot was accepted today.
It seems to be a bit of a luck of the draw on who reviews the clips but also some categories are more heavily monitored and they're even closely reviewing the video and audio content: Mesmerize, Gay Humiliation, Taboo, MILF, (I had one that didn't mention age but younger/HS was implied that didn't get approved at first) and Executrix are all being closely monitored right now, FYI, unless it's just my store that's on the shitlist.
That must be why mine aren't flagged.
I've removed hypno and trance from all my scripts. It's a pain but I make so little on other types of clips that I'm willing to jump through Visa and MC's hoops for now.
justsometwat
07-08-2022, 07:57 AM
Are the keywords used on your ADD CLIPS page now things that appear in the c4s advanced search? It says" These keywords (along with the description above) are checked when someone uses the Keyword Search in your store.". so I wasn't sure if it is worth adding a bunch of keywords if they aren't included in the sitewide search?
I wish they would add a performer profile so I didn't have to click each of those boxes every time and add the performer since the performer is always just me :P
WonderWoman0642
07-08-2022, 09:00 AM
Well, I don't blame c4s. I'm sure they don't want to lose money on categories that are very popular going down the drain. They want to keep the site alive. My impression is the cc companies seem to be in active review of the site or they received some warning and that's why they're being super strict. I'm all of for the site staying up as we ride through these difficult political times. I'm blaming the anti-porn lobby and the weak ass coward credit card companies, and the Christian right.
Good point. Are you on ManyVids too? C4S is becoming more strict but my videos are still approved on ManyVids with zero issues. At first, I thought C4S was being overly paranoid. But you're right, there could be more going on behind the scenes.
SophiaSylvan
07-08-2022, 10:08 AM
That must be why mine aren't flagged.
I've removed hypno and trance from all my scripts. It's a pain but I make so little on other types of clips that I'm willing to jump through Visa and MC's hoops for now.
It seems that it isn't ok to use props for trance induction either. So I'm just going to talk mesmerizingly for now and walk them through it without defining it...absurd we can't even say the word therapist. Civvies really have no idea the kind of restrictions we are under, they're always amazed! LOL
I never did too well with mesmerize clips, though they do seem to have staying power, and sell ok over time. The only thing they seem to want me to force them to do with hypnosis is to take penis and be babies!
SophiaSylvan
07-08-2022, 10:10 AM
Good point. Are you on ManyVids too? C4S is becoming more strict but my videos are still approved on ManyVids with zero issues. At first, I thought C4S was being overly paranoid. But you're right, there could be more going on behind the scenes.
Yeah I use IWC and MV, for now, they're not being as strict, but there was a period IWC was giving me the same impression. The few clips that get denied on c4s so far are being accepted on MV. I wonder what different methods they're using. I suspect c4s is using a program but has humans reviewing certain categories now. I'm also noticing an uptick in inquiries for customs for taboo and executrix, probably because this content is becoming more scarce. I'm hesitant to accept anything too edgy without an exclusivity fee, since it's likely they won't be able to be posted.
laurielegs
07-08-2022, 11:59 AM
It seems that it isn't ok to use props for trance induction either. So I'm just going to talk mesmerizingly for now and walk them through it without defining it...absurd we can't even say the word therapist. Civvies really have no idea the kind of restrictions we are under, they're always amazed! LOL
I never did too well with mesmerize clips, though they do seem to have staying power, and sell ok over time. The only thing they seem to want me to force them to do with hypnosis is to take penis and be babies!
Oh wow, didn't realize therapist was banned.
About half my clips have a swinging crystal though and they are still being approved.
kinkygirls
07-10-2022, 03:32 PM
Hi, sorry about our English.
We have found a fake clipsite which has many clips from different C4S stores, we have reported it yesterday but we don't know if we did it well.
To anyone here who want to check if clips from your store(s) have been uploaded on that fake clipsite you can to send us a private message and we will show to you a link but only if we are sure you have a store on C4S, sorry for the request but all who really has stores on C4S will know for obvious reasons we have to be careful when giving links to this kind of sites.
Cheers.
Luna66
07-10-2022, 03:44 PM
Nah, they don't actually have our clips. They 'have' one of mine that's never sold on any clip store. I asked Clips4Sale what the deal was and they said they're just copying our descriptions, GIFs, previews etc. off Clips4Sale to advertise the videos, then when customers checkout, they're either just taking the money and not giving any clips in return, or doing that AND stealing the customers' credit card info. Clips4Sale are on it, but don't worry about the piracy aspect, they don't actually have our clips.
kinkygirls
07-10-2022, 04:29 PM
Nah, they don't actually have our clips. They 'have' one of mine that's never sold on any clip store. I asked Clips4Sale what the deal was and they said they're just copying our descriptions, GIFs, previews etc. off Clips4Sale to advertise the videos, then when customers checkout, they're either just taking the money and not giving any clips in return, or doing that AND stealing the customers' credit card info. Clips4Sale are on it, but don't worry about the piracy aspect, they don't actually have our clips.
OK, so is there just one site? We wonder if we are talking about the same... if no, we would like to know about the one you are aware of
Anyway it a "relief" to know they don't have our clips but anyway is kind of damage to our sales they can make with that kind of scams, some customers could be disappointed thinking we would be related in such scams.
And of course, thank you very much for the telling us what is all this fake clipsite(s) about.
Cheers.
Luna66
07-10-2022, 04:51 PM
Yep, the site you PM'd me is the one I'm talking about. They don't actually have our clips, they're just using the descriptions/GIFs/previews as bait to defraud customers. Would definitely recommend Tweeting/emailing or somehow letting your customers know it's got nothing to do with you if you're worried about reputational damage!
kinkygirls
07-10-2022, 05:00 PM
Yep, the site you PM'd me is the one I'm talking about. They don't actually have our clips, they're just using the descriptions/GIFs/previews as bait to defraud customers. Would definitely recommend Tweeting/emailing or somehow letting your customers know it's got nothing to do with you if you're worried about reputational damage!
Ok, thank you very much for your answer and of course for your advice, we are thinking in write something in our descriptions about telling our customers we have no other store(s) in any other clipsite(s), just work with C4S, in fact we know almost nothing about this and our sales could be better, we feel kind of lost on this... we don't know how people make all this things just to hurt other people :(
Big hug for you, thank you.
Growlerpussy
07-12-2022, 12:00 AM
It took around 3 hours to get 1 audio in the "Medical Clinic" category approved. So heads up , that category might be soon under review too .......
JDoE_Business_x
07-12-2022, 12:03 PM
Hello, is anyone else experiencing the issue that any changes you make to your clip's descriptions (after the initial approval) are simply not actually getting updated & reflecting in your store??
I have been having this issue for 2 days now (across all 4 of my studios)...
Escalated it to clips4sale, but their customer-service have just told me they will ''refresh my stores''.
However I wondered if anyone else is also having this same issue too, or not?
kinkygirls
07-16-2022, 04:59 PM
Hi, greetings to everyone.
Sorry for our English.
Maybe out of topic, but we would like to promote our C4S stores but taking in mind we want stricly to use the Geoblocking option in our promoting.
For instance Twitter; we have read it's good for promoting but it hasn't geoblock, same thing for Reddit (according to what we have read) and we don't want to be seen in our country so...
Does anyone knows about good sites for promoting but with Geoblock option?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Blesses.
Tea4Me
07-17-2022, 08:41 AM
Is it just me or do categories top lists seem to be refreshing less often? I also noticed (and contacted support about this), that the first thumbnail shown in the Recent Updates carousel is *not* the most recently updated studio. It always has been for years. Now it's "hidden" to the left one frame and it won't get shown (unless a customer scrolls) until another studio posts an update in that category. But then their thumbnail won't get shown. It sucks because that visibility is kind of lost. Support just said they are always making changes to the site and they will forward my feedback. But it just felt like such a brush-off reply, not really addressing it.
Natalie0523
07-18-2022, 02:53 PM
I know this isn't exactly related to the thread but I just deleted almost ALL of my C4S video files from my trash (with no backup). I moved a few things to trash and hit delete and realized I moved something VERY important.
I'm googling ways to recover them but does anyone know a reputable one? Seems like some can give a virus? I have a MacBook and just installed Monterey.
You can PM me as not to take up more of the thread with this topic. I just didn't know where else to put this.
I'd really appreciate it. Thank you!
WonderWoman0642
07-18-2022, 08:20 PM
Is it just me or do categories top lists seem to be refreshing less often? I also noticed (and contacted support about this), that the first thumbnail shown in the Recent Updates carousel is *not* the most recently updated studio. It always has been for years. Now it's "hidden" to the left one frame and it won't get shown (unless a customer scrolls) until another studio posts an update in that category. But then their thumbnail won't get shown. It sucks because that visibility is kind of lost. Support just said they are always making changes to the site and they will forward my feedback. But it just felt like such a brush-off reply, not really addressing it.
I noticed this the other day! I thought it was just me. My rankings (in the category list) have stayed the same. And I thought that was odd. And yes, the carousel was much better exposure before. I miss the old clips4sale. Hopefully they will look into it.
Tea4Me
07-18-2022, 10:41 PM
I noticed this the other day! I thought it was just me. My rankings (in the category list) have stayed the same. And I thought that was odd. And yes, the carousel was much better exposure before. I miss the old clips4sale. Hopefully they will look into it.
Yeah, they were 'frozen' for almost 2 days. I emailed support this morning and they were aware of the problem and were working on it and by late afternoon they were finally refreshing/updating again. Yay! Now if they could just fix the carousel issue.....
Felicia[FightServ]
07-18-2022, 11:19 PM
I know this isn't exactly related to the thread but I just deleted almost ALL of my C4S video files from my trash (with no backup). I moved a few things to trash and hit delete and realized I moved something VERY important.
I'm googling ways to recover them but does anyone know a reputable one? Seems like some can give a virus? I have a MacBook and just installed Monterey.
You can PM me as not to take up more of the thread with this topic. I just didn't know where else to put this.
I'd really appreciate it. Thank you!
If the file is on C4S, you can ask them for download access. It might be quicker than using recovery software which has to scan the drive, will be slow if the drive is large and the deleted file may already be damaged if the drive has been written to.
Recovery software
(free) https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
(not free but has trial) https://www.easeus.com/mac-data-recovery-software/
Growlerpussy
07-19-2022, 02:46 AM
I have a question. This new thing "xx Fan Follows You" , is that related to the Email List?
justsometwat
07-19-2022, 06:41 AM
I have a question. This new thing "xx Fan Follows You" , is that related to the Email List?
I think this will work? https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?163549-The-Clips4Sale-Thread&p=3287447&viewfull=1#post3287447
Growlerpussy
07-19-2022, 08:56 AM
I think this will work? https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?163549-The-Clips4Sale-Thread&p=3287447&viewfull=1#post3287447
Thank you!
Felicia[FightServ]
07-23-2022, 12:05 AM
Not sure if anyone was using the Buy Now Button HTML or direct checkout form links, but they are currently broken.
My sites used them extensively. :(
CatBBW
07-23-2022, 06:45 AM
ignore - not an issue lol
WonderWoman0642
07-23-2022, 09:16 AM
Has anyone noticed more immediate clip orders after they added the "follow" feature? I feel like I'm getting more immediate sales. I hope they come up with a way to see who is following us so we can see a correlation. I'm glad they added it either way.
WonderWoman0642
07-29-2022, 07:04 PM
Clips are 10% off this weekend (more info in the admin).
Has anyone noticed more immediate clip orders after they added the "follow" feature? I feel like I'm getting more immediate sales. I hope they come up with a way to see who is following us so we can see a correlation. I'm glad they added it either way.
I hadn't been, but today I had one within minutes. I already liked the follow feature, but now I'm an even bigger fan!
arkaim4
07-30-2022, 02:48 PM
Clips are 10% off this weekend (more info in the admin).
Does c4s eat the 10%, or is it taken out of the profit of the store owner?
Does c4s eat the 10%, or is it taken out of the profit of the store owner?
C4S covers it. From the admin notice:
Make sure your customers and fans know that they can SAVE 10% OFF
all clip orders purchased with a credit card until August 1st at 12AM PST!
All they have to do is LOGIN or CREATE a Free Account to Save!
Studios will receive their full 60% commission. The 10% discount
is covered by Clips4Sale. So, make sure you take advantage of the
promo... Share it on your social media & with your C4S mail list!
arkaim4
07-30-2022, 04:25 PM
C4S covers it. From the admin notice:
...
All they have to do is LOGIN or CREATE a Free Account to Save!
Thanks. I am an occasional customer, not a producer. Just thought I might buy a clip from a friend to help support, not that her saving the $1 would make a huge difference. I guess I'd have to make an account though, I've only ever purchased as a guest.
I guess I'd have to make an account though, I've only ever purchased as a guest.
One advantage of making an account is that, if you use the same email address you've used when purchasing in the past, it should load up all your past purchases. That way, you can re-download them if you need to, like if you're on a new computer or something.
WonderWoman0642
07-31-2022, 02:50 PM
I feel like the sale did nothing for me this weekend lol. But my sales were still better than last month so I can't complain.
laurielegs
07-31-2022, 03:56 PM
I have a question. This new thing "xx Fan Follows You" , is that related to the Email List?
I don't think so. I only have 2 followers and have 66 on my email list. I wish I could find an explanation of what it is.
They are really limiting our money by not allowing on-site interaction and having a way to order custom videos. I'm always puzzled about that and C4S never have given any answer as to why not that makes any sense. I'm sure some would try to take outside payment for clips but really think the profits for c4s would skyrocket and make up for it way more than anything that could be lost if we had a custom order form and took payment through c4s.