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Jaana
05-06-2013, 08:23 AM
400 views yesterday and only $7 in sales. I really feel like I'm never going to truly have a handle on this website.
Brilynne
05-06-2013, 08:36 AM
Ah, okay. Tyvm, ladies!
bigbootyjudy1
05-06-2013, 04:34 PM
Finally opened a store after a year of saying im getting one.wish me luck you guys
Ashley_3
05-09-2013, 11:42 AM
I had something strange happen. I got an email like a couple of days ago and some guy had a clip suggestion for me, which he described in great details. Now I hate when I see those 2 words "clip suggestion" so I just told him I might try it in the future, unless he wants a custom now. Then today I get almost the same email from another guy. The email was not copy/paste, but it really said the same. So I wondered what is that thing? Has it happened to you?
I suppose there are two opportunities. First is he has more than one email and he wants to make me think there are a lot of people interested in that category, just so he can buy what he wants at a low price. And the second is that maybe it is a different person indeed, but they may know each other. I thought that is possible, because in the first email he mentioned there is a forum with guys who like that particular fetish. But now when I'm thinking about it maybe the first one is much more possible.
bigbootyjudy1
05-11-2013, 12:28 AM
When i get a suggestion i do it ,just because that might means there is not a market for it yet .But if the clip suggestion comes with a script .Hell no!I've actually got a few suggestions that are some of my best sellers.Keep this in mind, im new ,so im not sure if my words of wisdom count.But for a newbie i'm also doing very well :)
Ashley_3
05-11-2013, 06:31 AM
I'm not sure what you consider a script, but it had much details and that is why I didn't like it. I might do something for the category they pointed, but it will be a bit different.
Even if it sells good I don't like the idea that they don't want to order a custom and try to make me do it other way.
bigbootyjudy1
05-11-2013, 09:34 AM
A script for me is where they write out in details what they want me to do and say.
Ashley_3
05-11-2013, 11:49 AM
I'm still not sure, maybe it's not exactly a script. But I checked the emails and they have different names, but they are both web.de. So now I'm pretty sure he's the same guy and I just hate when someone tries to lie to me :(
I actually liked one of his ideas and I considered doing it, but now I'm not sure.
AureliaC
05-11-2013, 03:14 PM
I've had someone email me from five different email addresses and I know it was the same guy, so it isn't unheard of.
Sometimes I break down and do the clip bcause I know it will sell, but I hate it.
bigbootyjudy1
05-13-2013, 01:10 PM
I just bought new Nike sneakers .Look what some idiot ask for me to do to them.
"If its not asking too much and you still have them pink nikes or some other sneakers can you do a video getting food all inside of them then cutting them up so your
beautiful toes show and possibly burn them afterwards?"
The only way i would do this is he sent me 500 dollars.I'm going to ask him for $500 and see what he says.LOL
Classy_Katy
05-13-2013, 01:58 PM
I had someone wanting me to give my partner a handjob in the bath wearing my leather gloves...ummm, want to buy me a new pair?!
ClaudiaReina
05-14-2013, 12:16 PM
I'm still not sure, maybe it's not exactly a script. But I checked the emails and they have different names, but they are both web.de. So now I'm pretty sure he's the same guy and I just hate when someone tries to lie to me :(
I actually liked one of his ideas and I considered doing it, but now I'm not sure.
I've had a guy like him with an email address like that! I did the video for him, he bought it and it sold well. He still keeps buying the same kind of clips when I upload one. Sure, it's annoying when someone lies, but losing out on money is even more annoying if you ask me:)
Aurora_Sunset
05-14-2013, 10:06 PM
When you guys say you upload different versions of clips (like .avi and then a .wmv and then a .mp4) but then put them under different categories - do you have to do that to upload them in various form? Like you can only upload the same clip/different format if you list the clip under a different label/category? I'm a little confused on that.
AureliaC
05-15-2013, 12:01 AM
Crossposting like that is a trick to get more traffic, it isn't necessary and if you post different video sizes as well as formats in different categories it can actually hurt your sales. I always cross post when I can (hits don't mean sales, so if you think it will only sell in a particular category then don't spam other ones) but I add in the description that I have other formats and sizes in my store.
Aurora_Sunset
05-15-2013, 12:27 AM
Ah, ok. Thank you. For some reason, reading over a post gave me the impression that if you wanted to post an identical clip in a different format, you had to label it in a different category... and that seemed odd, which obviously it is lol Just making sure I was misreading that, because I went over this entire thread in about 5 days and realize that over time the rules on c4s have changed and I wondered if that was some strange new development.
jennydemilo
05-16-2013, 09:05 AM
400 views yesterday and only $7 in sales. I really feel like I'm never going to truly have a handle on this website.
I looked at your store and here are some of my impressions:
1. make your own animated gifs and use those. Dont use stills and dont let c4s generate the animation for you.
2. write longer more detailed descriptions of what youre selling.
Those are the two easiest things you can do to increase sales that in my experience works. Those are what your customers have to go on when making a decision. A good animation and a well written description can sell even the most terrible of clips, i know because ive made some real clunkers that have sold based on those two things.
I would also take a look at the kinds clips you've sold the most of and make more of those. (to the point of boredom and wanting to blow you brains out from it) If coughing and blowing your nose is your top seller id make 10 more of those with slightly different themes (coughing and blowing my nose in the shower, coughing and blowing my nose dressed up all fancy, coughing and blowing my nose topless.. you get the idea) run a sales report and see what your top selling clips are. The idea behind this is to develop a following in your niche and sometimes finding what the "wallets" want to see from you takes a little time and some trial and error. what they want to see from you will be different from what they want to see from me or anyone else. It looks like you have a lot of variety in your clips so zero in on what your best niches are and move forward with those throwing in a new one in the mix once in a while just to see where it goes and what you can make out of it.
I would also exploit all the features c4s gave me, send out a weekly email to customer who have purchased, use the featured clip option and upload upload upload.. you will see an uptick in sales if you keep at it!
Hope some of this helps
Jenny
Classy_Katy
05-17-2013, 12:48 AM
I'd love to make animated gifs showing a moving image rather than a sequence of stills but I've tried a free gif maker and although I know others have used it, I just can't get my gifs to look a decent quality. I guess I'll have to wait until I can afford a better editor than window live movie maker.
One of my stores will rarely show my own images...I have to use the c4s gifs.
MasterZeus
05-17-2013, 02:21 AM
I'd love to make animated gifs showing a moving image rather than a sequence of stills but I've tried a free gif maker and although I know others have used it, I just can't get my gifs to look a decent quality. I guess I'll have to wait until I can afford a better editor than window live movie maker.
One of my stores will rarely show my own images...I have to use the c4s gifs.
Theres a lot of people on here htat may be able to help you with the animated gifs. I personally use photoshop and imageready..
Also, thanks for this thread!!!
maryjaynexo
05-17-2013, 07:51 AM
Katy, if you have a copy of Photoshop, I'd be happy to PM you an animated .gif tutorial :)
Classy_Katy
05-17-2013, 01:03 PM
Thanks...I don't have Photoshop and looking at it, it's a bit pricey (of course)...the cheapest option of £17 a month (single app, whatever that is) may be ok but £46 a month for complete is really too much, especially as you commit to a year. That's the creative cloud thingy. There is a 30 day free trial though. It has limited space though and I can't see how to get straight forward photoshop without it being a cloud thing. http://www.photoshop.com/products is where I'm looking. Maybe it's the premier elements as that mentions video.
Ashley_3
05-18-2013, 10:56 AM
Has it ever happened to you someone to order a custom and then don't buy it from your store. I have a feeling this is happening to me. I'm still not sure, I'll wait a couple more days, but I definitely think it's possible. Can I do something about it? Or something to prevent?
I was thinking that maybe I can ask for half of the money as a tribute before I do it for new customers. Do you think it's a good idea?
MasterZeus
05-18-2013, 10:58 AM
Has it ever happened to you someone to order a custom and then don't buy it from your store. I have a feeling this is happening to me. I'm still not sure, I'll wait a couple more days, but I definitely think it's possible. Can I do something about it? Or something to prevent?
I was thinking that maybe I can ask for half of the money as a tribute before I do it for new customers. Do you think it's a good idea?
get the FULL amount upfront in my opinion......
Ashley_3
05-18-2013, 11:02 AM
Are you doing it and is it working? I mean do all the customers agree?
Oh, now I saw you're a male, so maybe you're not selling.
MasterZeus
05-18-2013, 11:44 AM
Are you doing it and is it working? I mean do all the customers agree?
Oh, now I saw you're a male, so maybe you're not selling.
my wife cams, i do all the tech stuff for her ( profile, website, videos ) etc
and yeah it does work, she works on mfc though and requires tokens to be paid upfront....
we havent used clips4sale yet... i was just lettin ya know what we do before they get the vids.. even though we host the vids locally on our server, she gets payment upfront for custom videos.. too many guys will waste her time and not follow through.... it sucks...
Ashley_3
05-19-2013, 07:03 AM
I see, thank you. If someone can tell me how you're handling this on C4S I'll appreciate it :)
I'm really frustrated right now, this guy was really annoying in the first place and changed his mind like a hundred times, but I never thought he might not buy it :(
Classy_Katy
05-19-2013, 12:07 PM
Those are the ones that don't buy! The ones that really screw around and want the clip, now, now, now!
I'm seeing more guys asking for clips that they have no intention of buying...tell them your upfront custom price and watch them disappear.
I take Amazon gift vouchers bought from the UK site so I can use them. They don't transfer between international sites.
Pottymouth101
05-19-2013, 12:41 PM
Hello guys, I have a few questions. 1. cross-posting: I thought uploading the same clip to different categories even if its a diff. format was against the rules? 2. I see quite a few clipstores with banners linking to their websites. Even when the site has a competitor on it. Like Niteflirt. Is this allowed or have these people not been caught yet? I'm not the type to turn people in or point fingers. So please that is not my angle. Just wanna check here before I do something that could get me in trouble. And I really dont want to submit a ticket bringing "awareness" to this. You know in case its not allowed. It seems that things keep changing on C4S. Recently I read here on stripperweb that you can now accept tributes for camshows? Four months ago I wrote to them about a contradiction written on the site and my email response said that NO tributes for camshows are not allowed? So I guess I have three questions. Thanks
AureliaC
05-19-2013, 02:42 PM
Pottymouth: crossposting is allowed, but they said they started reviewing them because people were abusing the system to get hits. If it's putting them in categories where they belong and will get sales that's fine, but when someone wants to look for tongue fetish and they just get a bunch of ass shaking videos...
c4s is just a content hosting site, they don't care if you promote your own website/whatever.
As far as I know using tributes as payment for any services rendered is a no no. If you do use it for a cam show make sure its from a customer you know and trust not to get ahold of c4s and rat you out to try and get their money back.
Pottymouth101
05-19-2013, 03:16 PM
Thank you!
Nocturnelle
05-19-2013, 04:32 PM
Uuuugh, so I've combed this thread and the site and bah. Trying to sign up for this god damn site and it's like they TRY to make it difficult. Did you ladies physically mail in the W9? Trying to fill it out through adobe is hell because I'm trying to click certain areas and it WONT LET ME FILL IT OUT >_<
Pottymouth101
05-19-2013, 04:37 PM
If you have a printer use that and then scan it or fax it. I cant remember which one I did. Its been sooo long now. But if you dont have a printer/fax machine, websites like docusign are good. It has a free trial.
RandyBell
05-19-2013, 06:08 PM
Uuuugh, so I've combed this thread and the site and bah. Trying to sign up for this god damn site and it's like they TRY to make it difficult. Did you ladies physically mail in the W9? Trying to fill it out through adobe is hell because I'm trying to click certain areas and it WONT LET ME FILL IT OUT >_<
Even if you can fill it out online, you need to actually sign the W-9. Clips4Sale WILL NOT except it your signature was done electronically. So the easiest thing is to print out a blank W-9, fill it out, scan it as a PDF and email it in. Or you can do it the old-fashioned way and fax it in. And if the US Post Office is still operating, I guess you could mail it in as well!
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 01:02 AM
Those are the ones that don't buy! The ones that really screw around and want the clip, now, now, now!
I'm seeing more guys asking for clips that they have no intention of buying...tell them your upfront custom price and watch them disappear.
I take Amazon gift vouchers bought from the UK site so I can use them. They don't transfer between international sites.
He didn't want it now, he was just annoying, because he wanted to chat about his fetish and I didn't do it.
And I told him the price from the very beginning, he was ok with it :(
I'm not taking gift vouchers.
As far as I know using tributes as payment for any services rendered is a no no. If you do use it for a cam show make sure its from a customer you know and trust not to get ahold of c4s and rat you out to try and get their money back.
Is it ok to get tribute for a clip? Because I said a guy who wanted a custom now that I want half of the money from a tribute or payoneer in advance. The other half he can pay with the clip.
Classy_Katy
05-20-2013, 01:47 AM
The info on the site says that it monetary gift only and that tributes/donations must not be made in exchange for a service.
But C4S then issued a notice saying you could use the tribute button on your own site etc and use for payment of cam shows...which is of course a service!
I've emailed them asking them to clarify.
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 01:56 AM
Ok, thank you, I hope it's ok.
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 02:36 AM
OMG, he finally bought it, I can't believe it, phew
Classy_Katy
05-20-2013, 03:39 AM
Using tributes/donations for clip payments:
Mary at C4S has confirmed that these cannot be used to pay for clips.
"Unfortunately, at the moment they cannot be used for custom clips as tributes/donations are just a gifts for the store owners and they cannot give customers anything in return."
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 05:45 AM
I see. But I might still try it, as my idea was different. I'm not going to give them the clip, I'm still making them buy it from C4S at not a regular price. I wish they had an escrow function, but as they don't I just don't know what to do to protect myself.
Classy_Katy
05-20-2013, 06:23 AM
Even taking half from the tribute and making them buy on the site would be a "no no" according to Mary...it has to be purely a gift and not in return for anything.
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 06:46 AM
Ok, I understand this, but I think they have not thought about us at all. And what should I do if I want to sell a clip for more than $99.99? My prices go up to $99.99 and I already have requests fore more expensive clips. I was thinking I can use the tributes... And I don't understand why it could be a problem, because my other option is payoneer and that way they won't get any money from it. I understand it could be a problem if I do it all the time for all clips, but that's not my case.
Pottymouth101
05-20-2013, 07:19 AM
Its because the download is not traceable. Therefore in the case of a chargeback, proving the purchase took place becomes more difficult. Just use an alternative payment provider. Or don't. If you use c4s tributes be very careful. And as always if you are gonna bend the rules make sure you understand the rules to begin with. And know the consequences before you get caught.
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 07:37 AM
So there is no legit way on C4S to charge more than $99.99 for a clip, right? Unless you decide to split the clip or whatever.
DoodlebugBites
05-20-2013, 11:19 AM
So there is no legit way on C4S to charge more than $99.99 for a clip, right? Unless you decide to split the clip or whatever.
What if you split the video into two parts and deliver the complete clip once the customer bought both? (Not saying this would work but just thinking out loud.)
Classy_Katy
05-20-2013, 11:32 AM
You really want payment upfront...some girls make a dummy clip with an image that says it's a custom payment, and they take it down once he pays it.
Ashley_3
05-20-2013, 11:46 AM
That's an interesting suggestion, I might try it, thank you :)
maryjaynexo
05-20-2013, 07:34 PM
I just raised my custom prices, and they now range from $10-$18 :) Glad to hear from everyone in this thread.
LilMissMuffett
05-20-2013, 08:33 PM
You really want payment upfront...some girls make a dummy clip with an image that says it's a custom payment, and they take it down once he pays it.
This. excellent idea! You could just keep a dummy clip in your shop and activate it when necessary! Thank you for this suggestion!!
EphemeronXOXO
05-21-2013, 11:26 AM
Dear Ladies! First of all thank you so much for this thread I`ve read every single post! I had my own questions and I saw questions that have never been answered.
I`d like to share with you my experiences of c4s.
I am out of US, so my verification process was a bit different. After I uploaded the documents I got verified in 40 minutes. After that I uploaded all ten clips to make sure That the final verification will come trough.
I had to wait around 24 hours to get fully accepted and after that I was able to see myself in my main niche! (BBW)
I noticed that there were only 4 vids of my ten that appeared in my store. I go paniced and came here to find an answer of what the hell should I do coz my favourite videos were the ones that did not show up.
I logged in to my studio account to my clip store and checked the description of my videos. One by one i selected their genres to all be BBW which is my studios main style. Then finally all of my vids appeared in my store but then I read a post here about a c4s rule that if a certain clip is not in its proper niche it will be removed of the store immediately. I went back to my store and edited the descriptions. I changed the genres which they belong to. And then they all appeared my store and they were all in the proper genres.
So if you notice that not all ur vids appear in ur studio first change all categories into your main store category they will appear in your store and when you are ready with it change back the certian vids certain categories where they r truly belong.
I really hope you ladies understan what i meant I just woke up and when i am tired my English is not the best! Hope I could help and thank you for this thread again and I wish the best of luck for you lovely ladies! <3
space_cowgirl
05-23-2013, 11:07 AM
Oh man...I was loving the tribute button for customs. :( I guess I'll do the dummy clip thing but hell, 60% sucks. Anyone doing another option besides Amazon gift cards?
Classy_Katy
05-23-2013, 01:11 PM
Payment to a Payoneer card is another option.