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EphemeronXOXO
08-28-2013, 10:19 AM
That's awesome! Did those two clips start as customs?
Also, if you sold the clips twice, that's not luck - that's having a good product that someone wants to buy - you should be very proud!
I firmly believe people will pay $20 and up a clip - if it's in the right category.
Thank you soo much:) Yeah it was custom made and I was so shocked lol:) That someone else bought it. It s in the drinking category:)
basicall the two together were meant to show how much wasted i can get. I couldnt risk the drink as much as u can in 10 mins coz i didnt wanna die lol:) But the guy was sooo nice :) Plus i think he liked my hustle if i can say that in the clip world because while i was making the clips i sent him pics of me to make him see the "transformation":) And he really appreciated it:)
But i should really change the way i work because i cant let myself only do clips when i am in the mood. I know thats why i can sell long clips becasue they can see that i never fake a thing nor act and I only do things i really really enjoy:)
and im no alcoholic lol im a light drinker thats wh i had hangover for 2 days after it:P
RandyBell
08-28-2013, 12:14 PM
But i should really change the way i work because i cant let myself only do clips when i am in the mood. I know thats why i can sell long clips becasue they can see that i never fake a thing nor act and I only do things i really really enjoy:)
Two thoughts on this:
1. Of course, if you can figure out how to "get yourself in the mood" to make more clips, you'll produce more content and make more money.
2. People who buy clips are buying into a fantasy. They want to be immersed into a story and will notice all the details. You've confirmed this because you sell long clips and you don't fake anything. It's much better to find a category that you can be real in, because you will develop long-term customers and could develop into a pay-site - which is what I'm looking to do and clips4sale is a great launching pad to a pay-site.
The devil is in the details - you might sell a clip with faked content once - but you will never develop a long-term relationship with that customer.
EphemeronXOXO
08-28-2013, 12:20 PM
10000% agreed:))) I really love the way you think! Thank you! <3
Plus my lifelong dream is to actually become a porn director for women. I mean even i learned how to give head from porn. Young guys learn tricks from porn and if they see that if they touch a woman and she instantly screams like she has orgasm how on earth would they know what does a women really want. Plus i think by doing fetish clips i can help to fullfill dreams so men wont go and get lovers and potentially risj their relationships. So for me it is like helping others and make a living by doing the thing I love the most! Helping others. :)
Two thoughts on this:
1. Of course, if you can figure out how to "get yourself in the mood" to make more clips, you'll produce more content and make more money.
2. People who buy clips are buying into a fantasy. They want to be immersed into a story and will notice all the details. You've confirmed this because you sell long clips and you don't fake anything. It's much better to find a category that you can be real in, because you will develop long-term customers and could develop into a pay-site - which is what I'm looking to do and clips4sale is a great launching pad to a pay-site.
The devil is in the details - you might sell a clip with faked content once - but you will never develop a long-term relationship with that customer.
Aurora14
08-28-2013, 12:55 PM
@Snowy0Star: Thanks hun. I don't think a person HAS to talk, but in some categories it helps. If I have a clip that's doing well in a certain category, I'll read the descriptions for the Top 5 clips in the category to see what makes them so popular. In 4 out of 5, they're talking.
I say do what you're comfortable with. It'll be more natural. Out of 41 videos, I posted my first one where I'm talking a few days ago, and it's selling great. So that's getting me to want to do some talking. I just hate 'talking' to people.
@AureliaC: Thank you. I do like having the longer videos, I just wish I had more of them. Sometimes what I'll do is take snippets, that would be category specific, from the longer videos and turn them into their own clip. Then in the description put that is is an excerpt from another video. For example: In a foot/shoe fetish clip, I start by talking about the shoes and showing them off. Moving on to my toes being worshiped, licked and sucked, etc. I'll have the main video released first, then release the 2 separate parts on their own later that week. For some of my really long videos, I can make 3 or 4 small videos. Sometimes the snippets sell better than the longer video, and when it comes down to it, I can make at least $1 more selling each individual part. I just like seeing the bigger numbers show up on my reports, but I'm not gonna say no to $1.49 either.
I do have a question though. I've been taking tributes for my customs, and read in this thread that I shouldn't be doing that. Should I just upload it to my site for X amount of time at the custom price and hope someone else buys it to offset only getting %60? I don't really want to get a Payoneer or GreenDot card if I don't have to.
AureliaC
08-28-2013, 01:36 PM
I always post videos on my site after the original sale. The extra 15% isnt worth your store getting closed. I take amazon gift cards since i buy so much from them anyways. However you habe to consider that what you get in extra money you lose in category placement if you make the sale offsite. Youll make a lot more being higher on the studio list long run
Aurora14
08-28-2013, 02:39 PM
Thanks Aurelia
I think I might start giving customers the option of Amazon cards or buying it off the site then. Christmas will be coming so it's not like the amazon cards would go to waste. I do have a wishlist too, so I guess I could link that too.
I guess I'll just post it onsite at the custom price for a week or 2 and hope for extra sales. Then tweet it when I drop the price. I'd really rather keep the store open since this is my only income now.
AureliaC
08-28-2013, 02:51 PM
I'd definitely go with cards instead of wishlist items, its all too common for guy to make an order and cancel it, and amazon won't tell you.
I keep clips at a custom price for a night or two, I worry about keeping them up much longer since I don't want a new guy to come to my store see the price and be like "woah, greedy chick here! I can't afford anything she's got" and go to a different store instead of actually looking through my stuff. But I'm probably just paranoid.
Snowy0Star
08-28-2013, 03:12 PM
how finicky are guys about thier fetish and being new and rebuying something from u it doesnt look perfect at the start? i just made two feeder videos one of them i realized u can see the hair ties and my makeup sponges at the edge of the screen my cat was meowing and she ran all over me and and was still meowing and u can hear her and the other one i did i had the camera below me and kept looking up to see if i was still getting a good shot because i couldn't see what i filming. I'm short on money very badly so when i eat i cant just eat things over and over making clips until their perfect but i dunno if i should upload them or not.
AureliaC
08-28-2013, 03:21 PM
My stuff isn't perfect and I get plenty of repeat business. But if there's a baby crying or a cat in the shot don't upload it, it's a legal issue.
Snowy0Star
08-28-2013, 03:26 PM
My stuff isn't perfect and I get plenty of repeat business. But if there's a baby crying or a cat in the shot don't upload it, it's a legal issue.
well fuck thax cat and that was the last of my rice and mayo too -_-
EphemeronXOXO
08-28-2013, 03:33 PM
I dunno I think you can save the vid if you upload at the bloopers category
and you choose a still pic instead of the gif or u carefullychoose urself the pics in the gif so only the one who download it can see the cat. But i dunno i know its in the rules like do not crush bugs for example but i dunno if a cat runs over the cam counts. anyway id still do what i suggested. Go for bloopers and when you will have rice and mayo again make another clip in the same outfit and makeup and put in the title yepp this is the original of the blooper i made.
But i have no idea beside what i suggested,
EphemeronXOXO
08-28-2013, 03:37 PM
MY BAD! FORGET IT!
"No Underage Material Real or Simulated (ex., sex with dolls) - All actors must be and appear 18 years of age or older
No Horror/Snuff - You can't act out someone being maimed or killed
No Nonconsensual Sex - You can't show someone having sexual intercourse against their will
No Asphyxiation - You can't suffocate or insinuate altering someone's breathing
No Animal Sex - There can't be any sex with animals. Please make sure there are not any animals at all in the clips or videos or images.
No Hardcore Bondage with sex - No full bondage with penetration of any kind. If someone has all 4 limbs bound, they cannot be penetrated
No Penetration with any form of bondage - You can't have someone fully bound( both arms and both legs) and penetrate them in any way
No Necro - You can't have sex with dead people
No Blood - There can't be any blood or simulated blood shown in any videos or clips
No Scat - There can't be any feces or simulated feces in your clips or videos
No Vomit - You can not show any vomit in your clips
No Fisting - There can be no fisting in clips. This includes anal fisting
No Chloroform - You cannot use or imply using any type of chemical to render someone unconscious
No Weapons - There can be no weapons shown on C4S. This includes prop weapons
No Drugs - There can't be any drugs shown on C4S
No Forced Sex - You can't imply someone is being forced to have sex against their will
No Pissing/Peeing - There can be no peeing on other people or show someone consuming urine
No Crushing - There is to be no crushing of any animals. Such as, but not limited to: Crabs, lobsters, spiders, fish, scorpions, lizards
No Intoxication - Someone cannot be intoxicated during sex. This includes but is not limited to: Alcohol and all other substances that causes intoxication or can be considered as being under the influence of
So Im really sorry:( cant u just cut it out? that part?
EphemeronXOXO
08-28-2013, 03:41 PM
But I would still wait for others opinion because in the rules u can see the no pee at all rule. But there is a pee cathegory so i dunno:(
AureliaC
08-28-2013, 04:05 PM
The pee rule is just for peeing on someone/making them drink it. If there was no pee at all allowed there's no way there would be a whole category for it.
Snowy0Star
08-28-2013, 04:20 PM
I dunno I think you can save the vid if you upload at the bloopers category
and you choose a still pic instead of the gif or u carefullychoose urself the pics in the gif so only the one who download it can see the cat. But i dunno i know its in the rules like do not crush bugs for example but i dunno if a cat runs over the cam counts. anyway id still do what i suggested. Go for bloopers and when you will have rice and mayo again make another clip in the same outfit and makeup and put in the title yepp this is the original of the blooper i made.
But i have no idea beside what i suggested,
yeah i know about the bloopers section i already made for that when i started to make one clip today the webcam fell off my monitor and landed on the ground lol i wonder if in bloopers you can have pets on cam how much trouble would i get into from the site mods if i did and its not allowed?
EphemeronXOXO
08-28-2013, 06:18 PM
Snowy honestly i dunno for me after i ve read what happened to u the first thing that came up to my mind was the bloopers section. I mean the only ones who will check your vid will be the ones who buy it and if its funny they wont mind. But u just never know can u just cut it out?
Or I dunno when it comes to that part completely cut that and put on a black and white censored sign thats funny too and its not against rules.
gosh its so difficult. :(
I made a burping vid LOLLL its funnyyyy the last thing i enjoyed this much was the 10 kleine jagermeister thing. :)
yeah i know about the bloopers section i already made for that when i started to make one clip today the webcam fell off my monitor and landed on the ground lol i wonder if in bloopers you can have pets on cam how much trouble would i get into from the site mods if i did and its not allowed?
maryjaynexo
08-29-2013, 09:37 AM
I try to censor my cats out or cut them out entirely if they accidentally appear on screen, but I have a few where you can hear the odd meow or two in the background. Too many times I've filmed a great clip and then had to blur out a little tabby butt sticking into the frame, lmao.
chloemay
08-31-2013, 04:19 AM
I hope their noises are allowed! When the cats or dog are in jail (put away) when I make clips one or the other always makes noise in the background.
Snowy0Star
08-31-2013, 04:20 AM
I hope their noises are allowed! When the cats or dog are in jail (put away) when I make clips one or the other always makes noise in the background.
i started putting tsuki in the bathroom when i film and shes taking pretty well.
CummingCouple
08-31-2013, 11:29 PM
We had our store disabled due to family members causing problems... and one of them buying clips, of course it would happen the highest earning month right?
Well the Mr. called and asked about region blocking, the man on the phone(named Glen) said " Why would you wanna do that?" Mr says: "Family was causing problems by seeing it" "okay sure I will email you the instructions on how to geo block" 45 minutes passes and I thought oh maybe they need my approval first since I'm the other one associated with the account. I call, it's Glen again and I say "I was wondering if you could send the instructions on how to geoblock to my email" Glen says: "we don't do that", I say " 45 minutes ago you said to my partner that you would send the instructions via email" Glen says "I misunderstood. I thought you might want to block sensitive countries like China for example" I say " so you can't block states, only countries?" glen says yes and I asked him if he could send the instructions anyway in case we needed to block Saudi arabia or something and he said he would but all he sent was a disclaimer... I thought they were helpful or at least upfront. Anyone had problems with them?
roast
09-01-2013, 06:46 AM
^Very few content sites have geo-restrictions, that's more of webcam site lingo and expectation which... c4s isnt one and I dont think even close to the majority of their stores are run by camgirls, so I genuinely think they misunderstood what you meant.
Also you only gave them 45mins before calling back. Why not just submit a site support ticket?
He either meant use a google analytics code in your store but that isnt a guarantee in general and wouldnt really do much as c4s's own site code woulnt support this - the page would still load and links to your store would remain live and customers would still be able to purchase from it.
IDK c4s cs's is super helpful but I see people are calling them or being urged to call them when phonecalls are usually reserved for emergencies. So I think forcing them to answer questions via phone when there are ticket systems in place, chat features, emails, etc. where they can research the answer and delegate it to ppl who are more informed is counter-productive. If you use the delegated methods to contact them for help, theyre in place for reason so theyre usually more helpful - dismissing those methods for a more instantaneous response usually means theyll be less helpful :shrug:
justanothercamgirl
09-01-2013, 06:52 AM
I had to ask such a newbie question but does anyone know if they do direct deposit to Canada?
Snowy0Star
09-02-2013, 02:18 AM
Is it recommended to try posting at different times of the day? I understand because so many girls post ur only up there in the recently updated thing for a few min. Does anyone know ruffly how many minutes? With the hits per day thing where is that on the admin page and can you back like one week one month a year how long does the hits per day and sales page keep record for? Sorry for question bomb #clipn00b
maryjaynexo
09-02-2013, 10:53 PM
@JAC, I get direct deposit. It took a little while to get it sorted, but I like it better than the cheque. I'm not sure what bank you're with but I get a $15 fee for the deposit each time instead of the $45 fee that is lists on the admin page.
@Snowy, sometimes I post at different times of the day but mostly at the same times, consistently. When your clip shows in the recently updated list on the main page, it depends on how many clips are being uploaded at that point. If I had to guess I would say between 10-30 minutes to get from the top of the list to being bumped off the first page. I can also look back through multiple years of hits on the stats page.
chloemay
09-03-2013, 09:53 AM
New Categories (per my request) Feminization and Chubby :-)
Aurora14
09-03-2013, 11:06 AM
Snowy, you can check hits by clicking on STATS. The second chart compares the current month hits, third tells you exactly how many per day for the current week, fourth breaks down where your hits for the day are coming from. In the Run Traffic Report box (First) you can pick which dates you would like shown, Select the date and click Traffic Report button. You can go all the way back to when you first opened your store.
Some people post different times through the day. If I'm posting 2 clips I start 12 hours apart, 3 is 8 hours, etc. I just divide the amount of clips evenly throughout the day. Like MaryJayne said, there are so many stores updating, that you aren't on the front page very long. If you are posting tags in as many categories as possible it will help people find your clip. If you are in a less saturated category, you will be on the front page of your main category longer. Hours, days, months, depending on the category. I do think that sticking to a schedule is a good idea though. People following you know when to expect videos to be released in your store.
Aurora14
09-04-2013, 02:06 PM
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced decreased traffic this week? I'm trying to figure out if it's the holiday or the videos I'm posting. But I'm barely getting 1/4 of the traffic I had last week.
EphemeronXOXO
09-04-2013, 02:08 PM
Well i noticed things get weird like i get ridicuolous amount of views like 300+++ but there are not so many sales. I really hope it gets better. Until then I experment with different fetishes.
ashley jane
09-04-2013, 02:11 PM
I used to get like 50 views now I'm getting over 100 a day but no sales at all.
EphemeronXOXO
09-04-2013, 02:12 PM
When I get less views I have the most in sales so weird.
Aurora14
09-04-2013, 02:27 PM
I've posted in the categories before, but had more views and buyers than this week. Maybe people on C4S go on buying sprees during the end of the month after all their bills have been paid for the month. It's the only thing I can think of right now.
EphemeronXOXO
09-04-2013, 02:31 PM
From what I experienced anytime my daily sales was above 100 it was around the middle of the month. Like last month the traffic increased like after the 10th.
But gosh it would be so great to learn the trick:) anyway this month i swore i will upload vids every single day!
I missed to record my ppink eye but I recorded my swollen gums!
gosh i thought sseptember would be awesome but iit seems like i have more issues than before:( And damn i hope they will buy the swollen gum vid. Like at least i need that if i suffer from it lol.
Snowy0Star
09-04-2013, 05:02 PM
Snowy, you can check hits by clicking on STATS. The second chart compares the current month hits, third tells you exactly how many per day for the current week, fourth breaks down where your hits for the day are coming from. In the Run Traffic Report box (First) you can pick which dates you would like shown, Select the date and click Traffic Report button. You can go all the way back to when you first opened your store.
Some people post different times through the day. If I'm posting 2 clips I start 12 hours apart, 3 is 8 hours, etc. I just divide the amount of clips evenly throughout the day. Like MaryJayne said, there are so many stores updating, that you aren't on the front page very long. If you are posting tags in as many categories as possible it will help people find your clip. If you are in a less saturated category, you will be on the front page of your main category longer. Hours, days, months, depending on the category. I do think that sticking to a schedule is a good idea though. People following you know when to expect videos to be released in your store.
thax for all that.the traffic report just shows what links are bringing my traffic in if i wanted to know what region most of my hits are comming from so i can post in the prime times for that region do i need google analytics?
so does the auto tweet thing not work or is my twitter just not synced up to my c4s and i didnt know it :/
Ashley_3
09-04-2013, 09:37 PM
Yes, you need google analytics to see the traffic by region.
And about the twitter I think it works, but it posts it on C4S's twitter, not your own.
Snowy0Star
09-04-2013, 09:39 PM
Yes, you need google analytics to see the traffic by region.
And about the twitter I think it works, but it posts it on C4S's twitter, not your own.
o haha maybe thats why. i thought it meant ur own twitter i looked in my twitter to see if they were posting on it haha
ty bb xoxo
Aurora14
09-04-2013, 10:23 PM
If you have your twitter linked up, there is a prompt if you want to retweet it on your page after you add the clip and have selected the tweet option. But the prompt only comes up if you are posting something to go up at that moment, not items scheduled for future activation. Also if you know you have something coming out at a later date, just find the tweet about you on C4S feed and retweet. I'm not sure how much traffic comes in from it, but there's no such thing as too much exposure.
To make sure you have it synched up, go to CLIP STORE > STORE ADD ONS. It will tell you if twitter, facebook and google are on or off.
DiamondCupcakes
09-05-2013, 08:29 AM
Anyone have any issue with c4s lately? Im posting videos and they will not show in my store or will only show up under the category if its serach but not on the main page. I've also had the site lag on me a lot lately. It will take longer than usual to load. I am using Mozilla and havent tried it on Chrome yet but I may do that today.
Another quick questions, whats the highest you can number your videos?
Thanks and happy Thursday =)
EphemeronXOXO
09-05-2013, 09:08 AM
Anyone have any issue with c4s lately? Im posting videos and they will not show in my store or will only show up under the category if its serach but not on the main page. I've also had the site lag on me a lot lately. It will take longer than usual to load. I am using Mozilla and havent tried it on Chrome yet but I may do that today.
Another quick questions, whats the highest you can number your videos?
Thanks and happy Thursday =)
OHHH yeah:( Like yesterday i uploaded a vid and it did not show up at all like it was in the cvlips list if i checked it in the store account but it was not showing up in the actual store. Then I realized when u upload a clip and there is the edit page at the end there is the date when its gonna show up.
Well that was somehow set for 2013 dec. 31st!!
so always check the date before u click add clip! :)
you mean the highest price u can set?
The highest I saw was around 499,99 dollars.
DiamondCupcakes
09-05-2013, 09:20 AM
I mean the highest bu display order. But yeah I checked the dates and they do show up if you look them up by the category in my store but not if you just go to my storefront. It wont show up as the most recent. Im not sure why =/
EphemeronXOXO
09-05-2013, 09:34 AM
I mean the highest bu display order. But yeah I checked the dates and they do show up if you look them up by the category in my store but not if you just go to my storefront. It wont show up as the most recent. Im not sure why =/
Im sorry but u only said number and the only number i could imagine connected with clips was the price itself. I never used that function.
And im sorry but rather than the date set i have no idea.:(
but the very same thing happened to me when i opened the stroe and i got verified and i uploaded my 11+ clip. no matter what i did it never showed up. So i set the clips cathegory to my main stores category then boom everything was there and when i set it back to the category where the clip supposed to be they stayed in my store and show up in the fetish it belonged too. I know its a lot of work to do with that but it worked for me:(
Beside this i really dont know what to do but i think u should write like now to support. Or they have a sort of live support too you tell your problem there and they will give you the email you need to write to.
CummingCouple
09-05-2013, 01:38 PM
The dude knew what geoblocking was. He emailed and said he can't do it even though he suggested to me on the phone that it is possible and the disclaimer said it is as well. So that's two "yes it is possible" and two "no it it not possible". Hmm, I wanted it if nothing else to see if I could block a certain country if our feedback gets spammed or something in the future oh well. Looks like my family will be buying our clips again! lol Can't even find out where to email a support ticket to have the store reopened.
Syrus
09-05-2013, 02:16 PM
I hope i could help with PornSync.com. All new and none of the other bull that your used to. In a nutshell we give you the tools to sell you product and make it as easy as possible. Once your clip is uploaded it is converted (plays on any device) then you will be able to take your unique embed code and place it any where you are able to embed a video. Example blogs, tumblr, and tubes and so on. You set the price and what you want the customer to see in your preview. Then everyone will be able to view the preview if they want it they one click purchase it. They will never leave where they are the preview will refresh and they now have you full clip and you made the sale.
If anyone has any questions about PornSync or how it works please feel free to contact me.
Syrus
Pornsync.com
305-842-3022 Ext. 607
Skype: Syrussync
[email protected]
ashley jane
09-06-2013, 07:03 PM
So would it be a legal problem if I read a chapter of a book out loud and sold it?
chloemay
09-06-2013, 07:17 PM
So would it be a legal problem if I read a chapter of a book out loud and sold it?
Probably an intellectual property issue depending on the age of the work.
maryjaynexo
09-06-2013, 08:38 PM
I hope i could help with PornSync.com. All new and none of the other bull that your used to. In a nutshell we give you the tools to sell you product and make it as easy as possible. Once your clip is uploaded it is converted (plays on any device) then you will be able to take your unique embed code and place it any where you are able to embed a video. Example blogs, tumblr, and tubes and so on. You set the price and what you want the customer to see in your preview. Then everyone will be able to view the preview if they want it they one click purchase it. They will never leave where they are the preview will refresh and they now have you full clip and you made the sale.
If anyone has any questions about PornSync or how it works please feel free to contact me.
Syrus
Pornsync.com
305-842-3022 Ext. 607
Skype: Syrussync
[email protected]
That's great and all, but this thread really isn't for other sites. /threadjack
CurvyWinona
09-07-2013, 05:16 PM
I was inactive on c4s for few months.. now, I am back on and the hits were flat dead for couple months. After resetting few clips to future date (by few minutes later), now I got traffic back and sold few clips. Have anyone done this resetting to keep traffic on dead days? I need to make new clips soon!!
btw the clips i reset were the most selling clips.. wonder if i should use reset for the other hours in the day on dead day. would that help me to get more sales?
Aurora14
09-07-2013, 06:58 PM
I'm not sure if it would count as spamming or not. I have seen in some descriptions, that the clip was "re-posted on X date". If it's your most popular clip, why not get frisky and raise the price by a dollar or 2? If it doesn't sell you can just change it back on one of those dead days.
chloemay
09-09-2013, 05:28 AM
I'm confused, when do the ach direct deposits from C4S usually come through? There was a problem with mine last month so I don't know what to expect or when to question them about it.
It says payouts were sent on the 6th, so did the direct deposit studios get theirs in the bank yet? (Sorry if I'm incoherent this morning)
Snowy0Star
09-09-2013, 05:41 AM
can u use ur payoneer card to get direct posit to ur card? i only have my payonner card i dont have a bank account and i hate checks.
chloemay
09-09-2013, 05:45 AM
can u use ur payoneer card to get direct posit to ur card? i only have my payonner card i dont have a bank account and i hate checks.
The first time I had it sent to my bank, the second month the direct deposit didn't work so they had to send me a check, this is my third month being paid. I'd rather it go to my bank then on the payoneer card as there are fewer fees and its just easier/ more direct.
I don't know how to make payoneer deposit to my bank, it didn't give that option when I signed up so I thought US people had to use the card.