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Tinsley
11-17-2011, 12:44 PM
For some reason I don't seem to do very well on C4S. I don't update every single day, but the days I do update in succession I don't get any sales. The most I've had is from some guy who requested 3 videos and bought several of my other ones. I finally made enough for minimum payout though so I will probably be shutting my account down.

This might be funny but I was on Twitter and some weirdo was mentioned me and stuff so I sent him my C4S link and told him to get my clips, then he said to me, thanks those clips made me super hard, or something, but he didn't even buy anything! He must just be getting off on my previews >:(

Khamille
11-18-2011, 01:21 PM
This might be funny but I was on Twitter and some weirdo was mentioned me and stuff so I sent him my C4S link and told him to get my clips, then he said to me, thanks those clips made me super hard, or something, but he didn't even buy anything! He must just be getting off on my previews >:(

Yeah, ever since I opened myself up for doing fetish clips I've just gotten more freeloaders. Guys on Twitter are always like 'oh I want to be under your feet/lick your feet/smell your feet/etc' and I'm like, 'oh I made a video JUST FOR THAT! Go look!' and they ignore it. I think the fetish world is just kind of 50/50 :) I just ignore them if they don't buy, the same as I ignore the 'biggest fan' who never has a working computer to spend money but has it working enough to send me Tweets all day.

ecinom
11-18-2011, 08:16 PM
Thanks Miss D!!



You need an editing program, I use Windows movie maker, just drop all the movies into the prog and you can cut them together, simples ;).
I even put all my smoking photo's into a slide show, made it into a movie and bingo! it's a seller lol

CWTheGod
11-19-2011, 10:26 AM
For some reason I don't seem to do very well on C4S. I don't update every single day, but the days I do update in succession I don't get any sales. The most I've had is from some guy who requested 3 videos and bought several of my other ones. I finally made enough for minimum payout though so I will probably be shutting my account down.

This might be funny but I was on Twitter and some weirdo was mentioned me and stuff so I sent him my C4S link and told him to get my clips, then he said to me, thanks those clips made me super hard, or something, but he didn't even buy anything! He must just be getting off on my previews >:(


You need to update regularly, thats the only way its worth it. :ast month I did $400 in sales, but this month....ehhhh... Becuase i skipped soooo many days.

HaydenBlue
11-19-2011, 10:59 AM
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mistresscyn
11-19-2011, 03:36 PM
For some reason I don't seem to do very well on C4S. I don't update every single day, but the days I do update in succession I don't get any sales. The most I've had is from some guy who requested 3 videos and bought several of my other ones. I finally made enough for minimum payout though so I will probably be shutting my account down.

This might be funny but I was on Twitter and some weirdo was mentioned me and stuff so I sent him my C4S link and told him to get my clips, then he said to me, thanks those clips made me super hard, or something, but he didn't even buy anything! He must just be getting off on my previews >:(

Half your clips are masturbation clips. C4S only does well with fetish clips--in most cases, non-nude, non-sex clips. I think if you focused on making more fetish-oriented clips that you'd do better. Check out the different types of fetishes and clips offered by other stores on C4S and what the top clips are in those categories.

athenalovelace
11-19-2011, 08:30 PM
what are some of the "out there" fetishes you've tried for C4S?

I'm considering signing up on there. I made a video last night of just rubbing lotion on my feet that when posted elsewhere got great results (crazy, it was just me doing my normal post shower routine) and I figured I might as well get paid for it.

I was considering foot food smooshing and maybe, if I can get it right, sneezing.

HaydenBlue
11-19-2011, 08:52 PM
what are some of the "out there" fetishes you've tried for C4S?

I'm considering signing up on there. I made a video last night of just rubbing lotion on my feet that when posted elsewhere got great results (crazy, it was just me doing my normal post shower routine) and I figured I might as well get paid for it.

I was considering foot food smooshing and maybe, if I can get it right, sneezing.

I'm sure my definition of "out there" is very different from your definition. }:D;)

Just sign up and go for it, try it out for yourself and see what sells and what doesn't :)

laurielegs
11-20-2011, 12:05 AM
what are some of the "out there" fetishes you've tried for C4S?

I'm considering signing up on there. I made a video last night of just rubbing lotion on my feet that when posted elsewhere got great results (crazy, it was just me doing my normal post shower routine) and I figured I might as well get paid for it.

I was considering foot food smooshing and maybe, if I can get it right, sneezing.

Take a look at the front page of the site and read the titles of the clips there. Tons of ideas! amazing variety of fetishes.

southerndesires
11-20-2011, 10:53 AM
Just tried to open a studio, after I uploaded all the verification docs and click next the next page says error. contacted support now waiting for them to reply and let me know what else I have to do.
Always something. lol

sweetheather
11-20-2011, 11:53 AM
Ugh I quit smoking like 2 years ago but I just made a custom smoking humiliation. figure I'll make a stockpile of smoking vids so the pack doesn't go to waste. I just hate the smell now, thankfully thanks to occasional weed I don't get the newb coughs aha.

Vlodina
11-21-2011, 05:28 PM
Do any of you do cam shows through clips4sale? I can't imagine it been worth the effort. Anyone care to differ? x

laurielegs
11-21-2011, 06:37 PM
Do any of you do cam shows through clips4sale? I can't imagine it been worth the effort. Anyone care to differ? x

I tried it. No traffic.

Breannasparks
11-22-2011, 12:56 AM
I know this is a dumb question but they nly let me upload images as a zip file. Does anyone know why? Is it because most girls upload a large amount? And do you need winzip which only has a 30 day trial? Or is there a free zip program some where?

Vlodina
11-22-2011, 03:43 AM
I know this is a dumb question but they nly let me upload images as a zip file. Does anyone know why? Is it because most girls upload a large amount? And do you need winzip which only has a 30 day trial? Or is there a free zip program some where?


When I am on my desktop on my computer and right click I get the option to created a new folder, but also a new compressed/zip folder.

ecinom
11-22-2011, 10:08 AM
Is anyone having problems seeing stats for today? i made a sale and for some reason my stats are showing 0. I know thats not true because even on slow days, I can see some clicks.
Also, I got my first request from a customer, but I am not sure on how to handle it through C4S, do I just do it there, and just email him when the video is done? Happy but also need help.

Thanks in advance

Amanda317
11-22-2011, 10:10 AM
I signed up for my own domain name so I could have a personalized website to sell merchandise to my c4s (and other sites in the future) clients without dealing with anyone taking a cut of the money. I've been formatting it to be a little virtual sex shop and I'm going to link it in my c4s banner. The site will sell used panties and props from videos and have the option of sending me items from online wishlists that I can use/keep or use and send to the customer.
What do you girls think about doing deals for c4s clients as well? I was thinking of having a promo where if a guy buys a certain number of clips in a short time period (30-60 days), then I'll give him a discount on a custom or exclusive clip.

Someone had asked about pricing, mine is listed below and it's what I've used for time I've been on c4s, over a year now.

Nonnude/Fetish- $1.00/min public, $3.00/min custom, $100/15min exclusive (no public sales)

Hardcore/Nudity - $2.00/min public, $5.00/min custom, $100/10min exclusive (no public sales)

Public to me means that I film the video on my own and upload it without a particular buyer.
Custom is a client request that I upload for his purchase, but it stays listed in my store for other buyers.
Exclusive is a clip that I make by client request and do not sell through my store for other buyers.
I round up on all my prices, but I'm fair. If a clip is over 5 minutes, but under 6, I charge for 6 minutes. That being said, I don't intentionally record clips that are like 5:01 or 5:03 just to upcharge. It works the same for Exclusive, so it's $100 for 3 minutes or 10 minutes of nude/hardcore exclusive, it's $200 for 11 minutes. Most guys just go with the first 10 minutes, but I've had a few longer purchases.

If I have to purchase a prop for a custom or exclusive clip that I would not be able to reuse or that would be destroyed and it is more than a few bucks, I either add it to the price or add it to my amazon wishlist and let the guy purchase it and have it sent to me for use. I even had a guy who wanted me to film in a hotel room, so I called around and got pricing and added it to the clip price. It looked crazy on the listing for a 20 minute clip with a $160 price tag, but whatever. A lot of the guys do stuff like that, they seem to enjoy the knowledge that they helped with the video.

Amanda317
11-22-2011, 10:13 AM
Is anyone having problems seeing stats for today? i made a sale and for some reason my stats are showing 0. I know thats not true because even on slow days, I can see some clicks.
Also, I got my first request from a customer, but I am not sure on how to handle it through C4S, do I just do it there, and just email him when the video is done? Happy but also need help.

Thanks in advance

If it is a custom job (see my post after yours about my difference in custom/exclusive), I still handle it through c4s and just email him when I am preparing to upload it. I try to make sure he is aware I will be uploading it and give him a chance to be the first (or one of) to buy it since it was his request.

Vlodina
11-22-2011, 10:17 AM
I uploaded a clip of me putting on my make up and some fucker bought it for $16. PMSL. I like this site, I am going to upload a video for every damn weird fetish that they list. :-D

Amanda317
11-22-2011, 10:21 AM
^^I do make up videos also and they tend to be pretty profitable. I also have sold the lipgloss or lipsticks that I've used, which is why I'm working on making a site to sell merchandise, since in those cases I've had to work it out without a formal and secure payment route. ::)

CassandraCalogera
11-23-2011, 06:53 AM
I just recently created a clips4sale store to sell my content and its doing pretty well so far. I was just wondering if other fellow clips4sale store ladies had any info on if there is a "best" time to post new videos. Have you noticed more hits to your store if you post a certain time? Also how many times per day/week do you usually update? I've been doing muliple uploads per day and I'm wondering if it would be better to just do one per day. Any info would be great!

I love clips4sale, its a good way to expierment with fetishes and I've been able to find a few that I actually really enjoy :)

Amanda317
11-23-2011, 09:54 AM
I just recently created a clips4sale store to sell my content and its doing pretty well so far. I was just wondering if other fellow clips4sale store ladies had any info on if there is a "best" time to post new videos. Have you noticed more hits to your store if you post a certain time? Also how many times per day/week do you usually update? I've been doing muliple uploads per day and I'm wondering if it would be better to just do one per day. Any info would be great!

I love clips4sale, its a good way to expierment with fetishes and I've been able to find a few that I actually really enjoy :)

I have set upload days and I post it in my store description. I think it helps keep me on track and lets guys know when to check back. I know that if they just had to guess and remember to check randomly that I'd probably lose a few. It's cut and dry that I'll post on certain days of the week, that way I think of them looking at the calendar saying, "Ok, Wednesday is little Timmy's soccer practice, pizza night, and time to check in with ________ for new videos." :D

innes
11-25-2011, 07:17 PM
How long does it take them to mail you your check? I haven't gotten my pay from October yet and it's been pretty much three weeks. I live in Canada but usually things only take like two weeks to go from US to Canada. I don't know why it is taking sooo long :(.

HaydenBlue
11-26-2011, 04:54 AM
I think you have to be pretty tricky when it comes to scat clips. Like you can't actually SHOW anything, but you can have the cam in the bathroom while you pee or whatever, so they can hear the sounds...

You can pee on cam. Into a cup. Piss your pants. Whatev.

You cannot piss on someone or drink it or show someone else drinking it.

No scat whatsoever. And you cannot show simulated scat like, covering your face with melted chocolate and saying its poop.

You can make a edited clip, charge out the ass for it and make guys pay then have them email you for the real clip to download it offsite.

Charlotteslut
11-26-2011, 02:24 PM
What are you all using to make/edit your clips? I want to start doing this but I've never actually used my cam to make a movie file before. Quicktime?

HaydenBlue
11-26-2011, 02:27 PM
What are you all using to make/edit your clips? I want to start doing this but I've never actually used my cam to make a movie file before. Quicktime?

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TXCamgirl
11-26-2011, 02:29 PM
You can pee on cam. Into a cup. Piss your pants. Whatev.

You cannot piss on someone or drink it or show someone else drinking it.

No scat whatsoever. And you cannot show simulated scat like, covering your face with melted chocolate and saying its poop.

You can make a edited clip, charge out the ass for it and make guys pay then have them email you for the real clip to download it offsite.

I normally don't give a rat's ass about what any other girl does but ladies you have to be careful with scat clips. It is not worth getting in to serious trouble. That is one illegal fetish that is taking seriously by the authorities and that tiny bit of money you make from it is not worth the trouble and fines you will have from it.

HaydenBlue
11-26-2011, 02:32 PM
I normally don't give a rat's ass about what any other girl does but ladies you have to be careful with scat clips. It is not worth getting in to serious trouble. That is one illegal fetish that is taking seriously by the authorities and that tiny bit of money you make from it is not worth the trouble and fines you will have from it.

I know that's taboo but I didn't think it was illegal??

TXCamgirl
11-26-2011, 02:52 PM
I know that's taboo but I didn't think it was illegal??

Scat is definitely illegal... why else would clips4sale not allow it? They allow EVERYTHING except the illegal stuff. Crushing insects and rodents... scat, pissing on people, fucking animals = all illegal in the USA.

HaydenBlue
11-26-2011, 03:04 PM
Scat is definitely illegal... why else would clips4sale not allow it? They allow EVERYTHING except the illegal stuff. Crushing insects and rodents... scat, pissing on people, fucking animals = all illegal in the USA.

No, they don't allow it because the payment processor didn't want to handle it.

Crushing animals was allowed on clips4sale at one time. So was hypnosis. Then it was pulled because of the PP.

Full bondage with sex isn't illegal. Breath play isn't illegal. Piss isn't illegal. Yet those are all things c4s doesn't allow because of the PP.

Obviously age play and animal fucking is illegal. But as far as scat play I know it is taboo but I haven't ever heard of it being a crime.

Breannasparks
11-26-2011, 03:15 PM
I didnt know I could do that on photoscape. Cooliio

HaydenBlue
11-26-2011, 03:20 PM
That said, back on topic.

It's been SLOOOOW for me in sales. I've been uploading pretty consistently. My prices haven't changed. I was banking at the beginning of the month then it nosedived the last two weeks.

Anybody else notice this?

TXCamgirl
11-26-2011, 03:38 PM
No, they don't allow it because the payment processor didn't want to handle it.

Crushing animals was allowed on clips4sale at one time. So was hypnosis. Then it was pulled because of the PP.

Full bondage with sex isn't illegal. Breath play isn't illegal. Piss isn't illegal. Yet those are all things c4s doesn't allow because of the PP.

Obviously age play and animal fucking is illegal. But as far as scat play I know it is taboo but I haven't ever heard of it being a crime.

Basically they don't just come out and say that it is illegal but it is considered "obscene" and "obscene" porn is illegal. Scat is considered obscene... google this and you will see many articles of people being busted for selling this type of porn. If you want to produce it, you are taking the risk of being called out for it by the courts or whomever and you can pretty much guarantee that when it is you versus the government or state, the government or state is going to win.

Back to what I originally said, it's not worth it for the amount of money you make now.

This is really a grey area as far as America is concerned. One supreme court justice said that he cannot define obscenity but he "knows it when he sees it." What this means is that basically anything can be considered obscene and like I said when it comes down to the government or state versus you, they are going to win. Pissing on people will more than likely be considered obscene... crushing animals will be considered obscene... shit play will be obscene.... rape play or simulated rape, etc etc.

So really, why the hell would anybody want to risk it? I guess if you live in an area that doesn't give a fuck it would be ok but if you live in a conservative state like Texas or any state that has brought people to court for stuff like this before, it's not worth risking! And there is no way to stay annoymous on the internet... I guarantee you that clips4sale or megaupload or mediafire or mygirlfund or any place that you hosted these types of videos would turn your ass over to the authorities in a heartbeat if they asked. And don't think that not showing your face will protect you either... it's simple for the government to see what you uploaded via your computer and IP address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscenity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

That's all I will say about it though. It's up to everybody to choose their own path... I just wanted to give the girls who didn't know that they could get in trouble for this a heads up.

Kaylen
11-26-2011, 07:27 PM
^

I have seen an entire store based on an "illegal" topic (it looked like a store that's easily grossing four figure earnings a month) I'm not going to say what topic since this forum is swarming with site reps ...but yeah, more power to them. And they simple use euphemistic descriptions/keywords and that's it.

Kaylen
11-26-2011, 07:30 PM
That said, back on topic.

It's been SLOOOOW for me in sales. I've been uploading pretty consistently. My prices haven't changed. I was banking at the beginning of the month then it nosedived the last two weeks.

Anybody else notice this?

I want a c4s earnings thread in the verified group ...like really BAD! ;D

HaydenBlue
11-26-2011, 11:59 PM
I want a c4s earnings thread in the verified group ...like really BAD! ;D

Making one. ;)

Cam_Model_Jess
11-27-2011, 03:37 AM
First, let me just say that this thread is awesome. I read through the whole thing the other day.

I've been considering opening a Clips4sale store and have actually recorded a couple clips. I'm working on ideas for some new ones because I want to have enough of them ready to open a store.

I have some questions though. Do they send a 1099? I doubt I'll make enough by the end of the year for them to do that, but next year I might. I'm worried about my privacy there. I have no idea how they report and if they would show up on my credit history. I'm applying for some other jobs and some of them run a credit check. I asked c4s customer service some questions in an e-mail but they never got back to me.

I'm also wondering about a paycheck. If I get a paycheck, what's the company name on it? Streamates is a bit obscure. But if the check says clips4sale, that might be an issue. For anyone who gets a check, what does it say on it?

I'm sorry if they questions were already answered in the thread. I did read the whole thing, but it was a few days ago and those questions were on my mind, so I probably didn't just read past it.

TXCamgirl
11-27-2011, 06:35 AM
Yes they do send 1099s... I am not sure what's the lowest you can make before they won't send you one as I have always made atleast $6,000$ a year with them and I have gotten a 1099 every year for 7 years with them.

The paycheck says Intermark Productions and I am one of the most paranoid people ever and I never even blink cashing it. I get my check every month about 4 days after the pay period ends.

CassandraCalogera
11-27-2011, 06:46 AM
I have not noticed a drop off in sales but that could be because my store is brand new within the past couple 3 weeks. I am doing very well for my first month I'm just worried about how many clips i can post in the same niche without my customers getting bored. Hopefully I can find some new niches as well and make the current ones I'm doing unique.

gjratedp
11-27-2011, 06:51 AM
You have to make at least $500 for a 1099. (At least this is how it was when I lived in NY, I don't know if it varies from state to state or not.)

gjratedp
11-27-2011, 06:53 AM
I have not noticed a drop off in sales but that could be because my store is brand new within the past couple 3 weeks. I am doing very well for my first month I'm just worried about how many clips i can post in the same niche without my customers getting bored. Hopefully I can find some new niches as well and make the current ones I'm doing unique.

Once you find a niche that works for you, I doubt your customers will ever get bored. Once you build up a group of loyal followers, they are ALWAYS looking for new content. Just change up your outfit, put the cam in a new position so it gets a new angle..or incorporate another fetish along with the one you're already catering too..
Like bubblegum and pantyhose for example.

mistresscyn
11-27-2011, 02:53 PM
Obviously age play and animal fucking is illegal. But as far as scat play I know it is taboo but I haven't ever heard of it being a crime.

As someone that does age play, it isn't illegal. Sexual misconduct with a minor is illegal, a grown adult pretending to be an infant is just comical.

Rule on c4s is that you have to LOOK at least 18 yrs old. Which sucks because it means that I can't just dress up in my loli gear and shoot clips. ;_;

innes
11-28-2011, 02:18 PM
How long does it take them to mail you your check? I haven't gotten my pay from October yet and it's been pretty much three weeks. I live in Canada but usually things only take like two weeks to go from US to Canada. I don't know why it is taking sooo long :(.

just found out why ... they mailed it to an old address ... WTF?!? I have one address on my license ... my "permanent" address aka my parent's address. But I moved and my new license hasn't come in. I changed my address on C4S and they mailed it to my parent's address!!

Fuckkkk

I do NOT want my parents getting stuff like this ... that's why I put MY address! I double checked and made sure that it was my address on the C4S site and it is. Wtf is wrong with them?!?!? I'm so upset with them ... how can they do that?!?

gjratedp
11-28-2011, 08:49 PM
I'm still waiting for my check for October as well. Apparently my routing # was wrong (although it went it just fine at my other store) so I requested a check. A week and half goes by..no check. I finally email and they act like it was deposited, which it never was, then they tell me they never sent the check out (even though I was informed it was sent) I'm STILL waiting for this check to arrive..the way things are going I can just have it added to whatever I made this month and have it DEPOSITED like it should have been.

maryjaynexo
12-17-2011, 06:02 PM
Hey guys, just thought I'd ask this here: when you upload new clips, how long do you notice the delay is before they appear in the 'recently updated' list of their respective categories? I find that I can see them on the front page right away, but for some reason not on the category pages.

whirlerz
12-22-2011, 10:18 AM
I want to try this site!

Sam38g
12-22-2011, 12:50 PM
As someone that does age play, it isn't illegal. Sexual misconduct with a minor is illegal, a grown adult pretending to be an infant is just comical.

Rule on c4s is that you have to LOOK at least 18 yrs old. Which sucks because it means that I can't just dress up in my loli gear and shoot clips. ;_;

You want to cater to pedophiles? REALLY!

You want to risk eveyone's money by pretending to be underage and get the whole thing shut down & investigated....

It is illegal. It is illegal so that smut cant be peddled to pedophiles. How you can even be okay with something like that upsets my stomach.

How I truly feel about girls like you would get me banned from this site.

When you signed up to C4S you signed a contract stating certain acts that were not allowed. Follow the rules.

If you dont agree with them then build your own site, get you own payment processors & have it. Risk your own site & $$$.

Sam

sweetheather
12-22-2011, 02:36 PM
She's following the rules Sam, she says it sucks because she can't wear her Loli gear

KushKandi
12-25-2011, 06:33 AM
Scat is illegal in the United States and this is something that has been told to me by a well known porn guru. Golden showers on the other hand, are not illegal in the US. Just look at gonzo producer, Max Hardcore. He pees on the female talent in pretty brutal scenes.

I don't think C4S plays by the rules all the time. It says no blood, gore and horror play but I saw some pretty weird stuff on a japanese video. It was pretty much horror porn and then the girl pretends to commit suicide with a sword. That video broke so many rules on c4s so why is the store available on the site?

HaydenBlue
12-25-2011, 01:09 PM
Scat is illegal in the United States and this is something that has been told to me by a well known porn guru. Golden showers on the other hand, are not illegal in the US. Just look at gonzo producer, Max Hardcore. He pees on the female talent in pretty brutal scenes.

I don't think C4S plays by the rules all the time. It says no blood, gore and horror play but I saw some pretty weird stuff on a japanese video. It was pretty much horror porn and then the girl pretends to commit suicide with a sword. That video broke so many rules on c4s so why is the store available on the site?

That makes sense. I remember seeing Kink dot com having a new Golden Shower sub-site. I just asked about scat because I saw so many other girls doing it.

And I think I saw the store you're talking about. I think until they get reported or the C4S staff sifts through the store and finds something against the rules they have so many clips to look through that it must be difficult to screen everything.