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jasmine22
08-23-2015, 07:43 AM
Are we allowed to sell our clips on other sites? Or does clips4sale now own them?

ruinator
08-23-2015, 08:50 AM
You can sell them anywhere you want. YOU own the clips, not c4s.


Are we allowed to sell our clips on other sites? Or does clips4sale now own them?

SuperPookie
08-23-2015, 03:02 PM
You can sell them anywhere you want. YOU own the clips, not c4s.

I didn't realize they were reusable on other sites either.

SuperPookie
08-23-2015, 03:04 PM
SuperPookie,

Clips4sale send out checks every month on the 7th. Usually, I get my check by the 10th or 11th of every month. Thanks! I figured out what the problem was. I'd miscounted and was a few bucks short that's all :)

LaylaLovely
08-23-2015, 04:38 PM
Is there a way to know the most popular categories from highest to lowest?

I'm trying to figure out what category to go under initially....I fit in so many... I figured Latina? I also have a full on bush so wondered if that'd be better ,But I don't want to put myself in a bad category or a flooded one

Aurora14
08-23-2015, 07:55 PM
Is there a way to know the most popular categories from highest to lowest?

I'm trying to figure out what category to go under initially....I fit in so many... I figured Latina? I also have a full on bush so wondered if that'd be better ,But I don't want to put myself in a bad category or a flooded one

I'm not sure of category popularity, but you can always change your store's category at anytime. So you can experiment with which categories fit your store and bring you the most traffic. On your admin page go to CLIP STORE > EDIT CLIP SITE > at the bottom there is a Category section

DonaDiabla
08-23-2015, 11:18 PM
Jasmine22,

You can sell your clips any and everywhere. I sell my clips all over including Niteflirt :)



Are we allowed to sell our clips on other sites? Or does clips4sale now own them?

LazyCat
08-24-2015, 11:08 AM
Snapshot from Summer 2014.

from: https://letsopenclipstore.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/what-sells-best-on-clips4sale-a-full-list-of-clips4sale-categories-ordered-by-popularity-summer-2014/

Top 30 categories on Clips4sale

BONDAGE — 242 403 clips
FOOT FETISH — 240 628 clips
FEMALE DOMINATION — 189 304 clips
TICKLING — 152 160 clips
HANDJOBS — 132 404 clips
SMOKING — 104 400 clips
FACE SITTING — 102 169 clips
BLOW JOBS — 95 667 clips
FOOT WORSHIP — 91 973 clips
TRAMPLING — 79 504 clips
FOOTJOBS — 74 428 clips
18 & 19 YRS OLD — 73 458 clips
BALLBUSTING — 65 930 clips
MASTURBATION INSTRUCTION — 65 555 clips
PANTYHOSE/STOCKINGS — 63 071 clips
MILF — 55 251 clips
FARTING — 53 471 clips
AMATEUR — 51 266 clips
FOOT DOMINATION — 48 171 clips
INTERRACIAL — 47 035 clips
BIG TITS — 46 051 clips
ANAL — 44 396 clips
HUMILIATION — 44 367 clips
BALLOONS — 43 540 clips
LESBIAN — 43 301 clips
CBT — 39 385 clips
FEMDOM POV — 39 294 clips
MASTURBATION — 37 725 clips
BDSM — 37 349 clips

JodesHu
08-26-2015, 03:08 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible to earn as much as the top studios without having any other performers in the video with you? A lot of the top stores seem to have multiple performers in them. I read Larkins thread but when I looked at her C4S she also has other performers.

My dream would be to earn $10000+ a month from clip making. I don't know if it's attainable for me but I certainly am willing to try. I just love it a whole lot more than cams and I find it so much fun. I wonder what the top stores consistently make (it motivates me to see other people being successful). I guess I won't know until I try hard myself.

I'm going to invest in some professional lighting and a proper camcorder rather than relying on my webcam. Based on some of the recommendations in here.

If I ever hit my goal, I will most certainly report back here.

Thanks to everyone in this thread the information is so so helpful. LazyCat thanks for the link it was really interesting. And Sinna your website is so helpful, thank you!

MissJu
08-26-2015, 05:09 PM
Phew, nobody's can tell you what you can do or not!
We already discussed here, that alone you can make it!but you hVe to do it right! Updates everyday, diffrent fetishes. You can be alone, but you can wear wigs and play someone else.
Read Sinna's blog, ofc 10000$ nice but you have start somehow.
For me not 10000$ deffenition of success but a good job from my side.

Aurora14
08-27-2015, 01:18 AM
With all the things that have been discussed recently, (filming/lighting equipment, how often to upload, formats) I thought it would be a good time to remind everyone about the importance of descriptions! This is something that I should have paid attention to a lot earlier. I have lack luster, 2 or 3 sentence descriptions because I didn't want people getting off on them. But making them longer has helped so much. I thought it was more important to constantly update, but a large portion of my sales this month is coming from rewording my older descriptions. I don't have the old videos announced on the twitter feed (it would just be too much so I only have new releases tweeted) but it will show up on the category that it has been updated.

Don't be afraid to use your words!

JodesHu
08-27-2015, 03:10 AM
With all the things that have been discussed recently, (filming/lighting equipment, how often to upload, formats) I thought it would be a good time to remind everyone about the importance of descriptions! This is something that I should have paid attention to a lot earlier. I have lack luster, 2 or 3 sentence descriptions because I didn't want people getting off on them. But making them longer has helped so much. I thought it was more important to constantly update, but a large portion of my sales this month is coming from rewording my older descriptions. I don't have the old videos announced on the twitter feed (it would just be too much so I only have new releases tweeted) but it will show up on the category that it has been updated.

Don't be afraid to use your words!

I agree. I found it so hard to write out a description at the start, what helped me is looking at other models. Don't rip off directly from other models but it can be good inspiration to start with. This might sound silly but if you have any favourite erotic novels you could look at how they're described/seller description on Amazon, that also helped me with wording and making things sound seductive.

Aurora14
08-27-2015, 05:22 AM
Reading other models' descriptions or erotic/ adult works is awesome. I'm not a naturally dirty mouthed person, so I was looking at it for dirty talk and it kind of spilled over.

I'll sit down and watch the video as I'm writing the description though. That way can catch a certain look I might make, the sounds, maybe remember a smell from filming. I end up just writing what comes to mind and add a bit of flair.

Natalie0523
08-27-2015, 11:52 AM
I love when I'm browsing through C4S & come across an EXACT copy of a clip description/video that another model took from me. I've seen her in this category for a while & my store is always #1 so I guess I should feel flattered. But come on, you can at least try to rearrange the words a bit to make it your own. Nope, word for word she took. I was very detailed too and she just copied it over onto her store. Used the same idea in her video as well.
Very pathetic & desperate.

justsometwat
08-27-2015, 12:10 PM
I've heard about that happening before. One of my subs told me about a popular domme that literally copies other model's descriptions, which makes no sense to me. I type everything out on my own unless it was a weird request, then I used to include what the customer asked for if I followed it 100%. Now I type my own because apparently some get upset when you do that :P

I don't understand why anyone would copy word for word though, it's a bitch move.

Sinna (2pee4you)
08-27-2015, 04:43 PM
With all the things that have been discussed recently, (filming/lighting equipment, how often to upload, formats) I thought it would be a good time to remind everyone about the importance of descriptions! This is something that I should have paid attention to a lot earlier. I have lack luster, 2 or 3 sentence descriptions because I didn't want people getting off on them. But making them longer has helped so much. I thought it was more important to constantly update, but a large portion of my sales this month is coming from rewording my older descriptions. I don't have the old videos announced on the twitter feed (it would just be too much so I only have new releases tweeted) but it will show up on the category that it has been updated.

Don't be afraid to use your words!

Indeed. As I also wrote in my guide, I only learned about this recently. I wrote long descriptions, but HOW you write can be a real game changer. Opened my eyes.

One thing, yes, it will show the updated clip when hovering over your store's name in that category. But it will not put you at the top of the recently updated studio's list. However, "back in the day" when I was reworking many descriptions, I also had the feeling that sales were pretty good. So I had the suspicion that it somehow helped to update the clips. Could never confirm that though.



Do you guys think it would be possible to earn as much as the top studios without having any other performers in the video with you?

Yes. I think so. I don't have any personal experience beyond #15 of the main toplist, but I think Tara Tainton is pretty much solo. Her few works with others aside, she would still be up there..


I'm not sure of category popularity, but you can always change your store's category at anytime. So you can experiment with which categories fit your store and bring you the most traffic. On your admin page go to CLIP STORE > EDIT CLIP SITE > at the bottom there is a Category section

You are right, but be careful. You will not get re-listed in the "New Studios" list if you change your category. As this is a prime exposure spot, I would advise you to carefully choose your category before you start your store and NOT change it anytime soon.


Is there a way to know the most popular categories from highest to lowest?

I'm trying to figure out what category to go under initially....I fit in so many... I figured Latina? I also have a full on bush so wondered if that'd be better ,But I don't want to put myself in a bad category or a flooded one

My guide on adult-income.com might help you find a category. On top of that, look at the top stores in a category. If a store in the top 5 has below 10 clips, then the category might be slow. If 2-3 stores in the top 5 have below 10 clips, it is probably not very well visited. If even the top stores have less than 10 clips, it's probably not a top earner. Exceptions from this are very specific fetishes, like giantess special effects. If you put up a good clip there, it has the potential to become a top 50 c4s seller. Same goes for hair cutting, for example. The reason is that these clips are difficult to make / rare, so not many make them, while the fanbase is a close, established community and just waiting for something great to happen.

I would go with Latina, but only if that really is your unique strength. If you were to go for Hairy Bush or Hairy, you might find updating "yourself" as these are not updated daily. So if you were to update daily, you would pretty much waste a little exposure everytime, because you were on top of the "recently updated" list anyway. Having said that, Latina is not too busy either...

However, when I started in #pee, I made that category very popular, so that's what you might be able to do. Whenever I am in the top 50, I see double or three times the updates in #pee than usual. Why? My guess is people realize that they might be able to make money there, so they "jump on". This "hype" usually dies down quickly after I am out of the top 50 again and the stores realize, they didn't make a quick $. It's hard work to establish yourself in a busy category, after all.




Are we allowed to sell our clips on other sites? Or does clips4sale now own them?

Neil is not a huge fan of it, but c4s allows it. The only things you can't do is sell clips on your own site and then link to it from your c4s page. You may only link to membership sites. You probably shouldn't link to your other clipstores on competitor's sites either :P



Snapshot from Summer 2014.

from: https://letsopenclipstore.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/what-sells-best-on-clips4sale-a-full-list-of-clips4sale-categories-ordered-by-popularity-summer-2014/

Top 30 categories on Clips4sale

BONDAGE — 242 403 clips
FOOT FETISH — 240 628 clips
FEMALE DOMINATION — 189 304 clips
TICKLING — 152 160 clips
[...]
CBT — 39 385 clips
FEMDOM POV — 39 294 clips
MASTURBATION — 37 725 clips
BDSM — 37 349 clips


I saw this one as well. These are only the categories listed by most clips posted. To me, this says nothing about how good a category is for you to get started in. The author of this even said these are an indication of what sells best, but then differentiates

"In general, choosing a popular category lands you in a more competitive environment, but you also produce for a much higher number of potential customers. On the other hand, choosing an obscure category gives you a smaller target marker, but with less competition and more eager buyers."

Also note that the author of that blog chose trampling, a very competitive category and it seems like that was the end of it. No more updates on her progress..

Instead of trying to do anything with that information (take it in, that's it) I would recommend reading that one link I put in one of my starter guides where you can see a "map" of clips4sale categories with interconnections. That is an interesting read.


I love when I'm browsing through C4S & come across an EXACT copy of a clip description/video that another model took from me. I've seen her in this category for a while & my store is always #1 so I guess I should feel flattered. But come on, you can at least try to rearrange the words a bit to make it your own. Nope, word for word she took. I was very detailed too and she just copied it over onto her store. Used the same idea in her video as well.
Very pathetic & desperate.

I have one "competitor" who basically looks at my store, sees what sells well, then makes a clip that looks very very similar to what I did. Gives it a name very very similar as well. Updates that the next day. Lacks the description though. If she would start copying stuff, I would certainly ask studio support what's up with that. Not only your clips, also your texts are basically your intellectual property and protected by copyright. So taking your exact words should be illegal. However, it didn't happen yet and I am not afraid of the competition either.

Actually, as I told you earlier, when I get very "popular" the category gets popular as well. Which normally kills sales, as the users spread out, so everything turns back to normal. I used to have another strong studio (the #1 for years before I could get there) in my category. When we were "battling" for months, we both gave our best and used to be in the top 50 on the main - both of us - all the time. So I still do have the feeling that competition can be good for business. We both do worse today I think, although there is no real competition anymore. Back then, I sometimes made twice of what I make today, although I was #2. Now I am #1.

So yeah, I don't mind competition, I only don't like the jumpers that use the hype "I create" to get on an assumed money train - where I bring half of the paying visitors to the category, c4s the other half and they none. When they realize there is nothing to take, they stop updating in pee. So it wasn't their wish to have pee clips in the first place. The over-assault on updates then usually stops my hype pretty fast, which really is a pity. I wanted to write about that "phenomenon" in my advanced guide as well, so this is a little introduction :P

LaylaLovely
08-27-2015, 05:43 PM
^^ checked out your site a few weeks ago lol I was stuck on for hours reading everything!! I'm Latina but other than being "Latina" lol I really don't have any ideas or clips toward that category except that I myself am Latina. Although my bush I have a ton of clip ideas for that..also I have a lot of regs since barely starting for my bush... I guess most girls don't have a really full bush when untrimmed .

Sinna (2pee4you)
08-27-2015, 05:53 PM
I totally support your bush ^^ I just think it might not be a niche with good opportunities (like the ones I mentioned, e.g. giantess special effects, hair cutting) since it's not THAT rare. I have seen a few bushes on mainstream sites, also bush categories. It's not really very busy (maybe because free stuff exists in that niche).

I won't hold you back to get started though. I have seen girls update 5 times a day on lipstick (among other "normal" categories) and make top 50, so there you go :)

DonaDiabla
08-27-2015, 06:34 PM
Anyone made any doll fetish or hard vore clips?

Classy_Katy
08-28-2015, 01:31 AM
Yes Dona. You do need to read the rules though because although many girls are doing whatever they want, people do report some studios. I'm not sure what you mean by "hard vore"...if you mean swallowing a live creature, absolutely not!!!

LazyCat
08-28-2015, 08:44 AM
What kinda shocks me is to see some quality content in a competitive category that isn't in the top 50 of that category. Especially something like blowjobs, with a lot of different girls. I don't understand their business model at all LOL. Either they are convincing a lot of pretty women to give blow jobs for free, or they are losing money in a big way.

LaylaLovely
08-28-2015, 09:10 AM
^^ I've wondered this too...I'm thin in they just pay them on the spot type of thing..I see it offered on cl a lot like 150$ etc...

LazyCat
08-28-2015, 09:17 AM
Even if they just pay they $150, they're still losing money if they aren't in the top 50. The math just doesn't work! :-)

LaylaLovely
08-28-2015, 09:34 AM
I'm sure they do make money..especially in the long run when clips are still selling its worth the investment for them. They probably have the money upfront to invest in that just like regular porn videos.its somthing I've actually considered investing in future.

Aurora14
08-28-2015, 09:56 AM
What kinda shocks me is to see some quality content in a competitive category that isn't in the top 50 of that category. Especially something like blowjobs, with a lot of different girls. I don't understand their business model at all LOL. Either they are convincing a lot of pretty women to give blow jobs for free, or they are losing money in a big way.

I would think a popular category (like Blowjobs) would be tough to crack top 50 with how common and how often it gets updated. You would have to sell so much to make higher averages than all the other studios. Something like that, you can still be making good money and not rank.

Something uncommon, like coughing or sneezing, you may just need to sell a few times and you are in top 50. There aren't as many of those videos being produced, so a likeable model/studio can rank higher with less effort.

But Layla is right. Studios like that pay a per hour/day fee to the model/ tech people. Once the video sells X times any additional sales are profit. Say you are a 1 man crew and pay your model $50 per hour (I'm guessing a non nude fetish rate for this example). Maybe you can get footage for 2 10 minute clips done in that hour. Do all filming, editing, and uploading yourself and put those 2 clips up for $10.99 each, making $6.59 per clip sale. After 4 sales from both (or 8 sales on 1) and you start making all profit at the 9th sale.

DonaDiabla
08-28-2015, 12:08 PM
Thanks Classy Katy :)


Yes Dona. You do need to read the rules though because although many girls are doing whatever they want, people do report some studios. I'm not sure what you mean by "hard vore"...if you mean swallowing a live creature, absolutely not!!!

UKPrincesss
08-29-2015, 06:27 AM
Just wondering if any of the uk girls on here have received your payment yet from c4s (cheques only)
I normally get mine about the 3rd week of the month but yet to receive it.

Anyone else still waiting for theirs or is it just me? x

Classy_Katy
08-29-2015, 11:41 PM
I normally get my cheque around the 10th and got mine in August...I would email studio support.

kitty_frost
08-30-2015, 12:55 PM
How much do you ladies edit your videos? I'm super critical of myself, so watching through a clip I made I want to cut out every 5 second section where my face or body looks weird, or I'm looking at the computer instead of my camera, or I've fumbled my prop and have to fiddle with it for 10 seconds. Is that a good plan? Or should I just add my watermark, cut out the awkward bit at the beginning and be happy with it? if it helps it's a 15 minute clip of me rubbing ice cubes on myself, so I wouldn't be cutting out huge amounts of "action"

LazyCat
08-30-2015, 03:01 PM
But Layla is right. Studios like that pay a per hour/day fee to the model/ tech people. Once the video sells X times any additional sales are profit. Say you are a 1 man crew and pay your model $50 per hour (I'm guessing a non nude fetish rate for this example). Maybe you can get footage for 2 10 minute clips done in that hour. Do all filming, editing, and uploading yourself and put those 2 clips up for $10.99 each. After 2 sales from both (or 4 sales on 1) and you start making profit at the 5th sale.

Not to nitpick, but it would take 8 sales to make your first dollar (discounting your labor and any other capital expenses). Don't forget the 40% cut that clips takes. Still seems like a steep climb for studios that pay talent.

caramelcraze
08-30-2015, 03:40 PM
Not to nitpick, but it would take 8 sales to make your first dollar (discounting your labor and any other capital expenses). Don't forget the 40% cut that clips takes. Still seems like a steep climb for studios that pay talent.

That's part of the risk of owning a studio. It's rather hard to get them off the ground once you factor in all of the expenses. Most of the legit studios do pay their talent (some better than others). on the flip side, if you do crack the top 50 on any of the major fetishes, the payout is great. It just takes time to build up a solid following and crack the code for what will work for your studio in particular. No two studios are the same & no category works the same for any two studios. Trial and error are a must in this industry.

Sinna (2pee4you)
08-30-2015, 03:48 PM
Hello,

it's the last day of the month, so don't forget to make screenshots of all the important pages you want to save to keep track of your progress. I always capture the main page overview, the traffic overview including the "last months visitors" (so you see a month later how many visitors you had) and the email subscribers :) Of course it's up to you, but it's just a few seconds of work and really nice to have.

LaylaLovely
08-30-2015, 09:50 PM
I'm finally making videos and my windows movie maker keeps freezing on me... I've restarted it many times and restarted my computer!

Aurora14
08-30-2015, 10:01 PM
Not to nitpick, but it would take 8 sales to make your first dollar (discounting your labor and any other capital expenses). Don't forget the 40% cut that clips takes. Still seems like a steep climb for studios that pay talent.


Oh, you're right! I did forget the 40%! I'll go back and fix that math. But realisically, if they weren't making money off it, they wouldn't do it.

LaylaLovely
08-30-2015, 10:29 PM
I see it just like regular porn...porn producers invest money and then push it out everywhere...also a lot of there studios have very good marketing, they could also be pushing there content on there own website and other websites as well it definitely pays off for them..its passive income there forever to make money off of. there sales aren't just c4s

Yes probably for a one person it would be a big investment/risk..but if you have the skills and extra cash you can def start it and profit as it grows and grows

LazyCat
08-31-2015, 08:04 AM
Oh, you're right! I did forget the 40%! I'll go back and fix that math. But realisically, if they weren't making money off it, they wouldn't do it.

And I forgot taxes on that amount, so its probably more like 10 videos sold to break even (depending on country).

But I do totally agree they must be making money somewhere. Maybe by selling their clips elsewhere also, because I know the payout numbers in "blow jobs" and I know if you you're not top 50 its likely under a couple hundred a month at best (if thats your only category). The other possibility is its a "hobby" and they don't mind the loss, because the overhead can be pretty low.

MissJu
08-31-2015, 09:06 AM
"passive income there forever to make money off of. there sales aren't just c4s"
Well word "forever" questinable. Nothing last forever:D they recive something if they update. If you just leave it without updates and supervising, traffic will go to 0 and videos get stolen.:(

Sinna (2pee4you)
09-01-2015, 03:18 AM
So, August is done. How did you do? This month I will try to be hyperactive to update both my stores, especially updating my second store daily, because I said that I wanted to make $1000 with that store this month. So now I am under pressure to prove my own point. Ohoh :O

I will keep up the $1000 Blog posts this month, so you can see how I do and if I make it :O

UKPrincesss
09-01-2015, 04:50 AM
I normally get my cheque around the 10th and got mine in August...I would email studio support.

Thanks for the reply, I've been in touch with support over the weekend, they said they'll just add it onto my next cheque this month.

Aurora14
09-01-2015, 05:25 AM
So, August is done. How did you do? This month I will try to be hyperactive to update both my stores, especially updating my second store daily, because I said that I wanted to make $1000 with that store this month. So now I am under pressure to prove my own point. Ohoh :O

I will keep up the $1000 Blog posts this month, so you can see how I do and if I make it :O

Sinna, I love your posts aimed at motivation! I've been trying to follow your $1000 Blog also an additional push. I think that is what kept me earning the same as last month. I think you should start a thread on it.

justsometwat
09-01-2015, 07:02 AM
I FINALLY hit just over $1,000 on C4S last month. It had been April when I last got over that amount! I had to upload 4-5 times a day all brand new videos, but I did it! I think it helped that I was first in my main category for a while. It came at a good time, I am flat broke!

Aurora14
09-01-2015, 12:25 PM
I FINALLY hit just over $1,000 on C4S last month. It had been April when I last got over that amount! I had to upload 4-5 times a day all brand new videos, but I did it! I think it helped that I was first in my main category for a while. It came at a good time, I am flat broke!

Congrats!! I can't wait to get to that point.

How do you make that many videos? I can barely keep up with 1 new video a day.

justsometwat
09-01-2015, 12:55 PM
I have no idea. I write all of my ideas down in a notebook and try to work through them, but it gets hot with my lighting on and I get tired of changing my clothes and moving stuff around. I start getting irritated and stop filming for the day :P I wish I could have one day a week where I film 20 videos and then can take some time off, but good god, that's difficult. I think having ideas of exactly what I want to do is a good motivator.

LazyCat
09-02-2015, 10:17 AM
Do you guys vary rates for custom clips depending on content? From my research it seems the going rate is $10 per minute or so. I've gone with that, with a $100 minimum. But some scenarios get more complex and seem worth far more. For example, someone requested bareback anal -- a category we don't normally do. Not that we're against anal, but I don't see even attempting to fulfill that request for any price.

NervousBeaver
09-02-2015, 02:22 PM
So, August is done. How did you do?

My store opened on August 14. I made 200.55 for my first payout. I specialize in foot fetish clips so far. I will start to add more categories in my store. I think because there is so much free foot fetish content everywhere, it's less lucrative than I thought. (I'm 26 right now in my category and haven't made a lot of money.) Or maybe because it's summer time and guys can see girls feet all the time.

Anyway, I put my first non-foot fetish clip online yesterday and it sold 3 times already. So I'll edit all the non foot vids I made a few weeks before opening my store. Maybe I'll try to add 2 vids per day, one feet related, second in another category.

Now I have to make a list of all my vids info to keep things organized. Eventually I will probably post my vids on other sites so I want to save time in the future.

Have you noticed there a better time of the day to post vids? Does it really matter or is it random, depends on the category or other factor?

MissJu
09-02-2015, 06:04 PM
Have you noticed there a better time of the day to post vids? Does it really matter or is it random, depends on the category or other factor?

Yes, depends on buyers. Some people have more from Eu, some from Australian,usa,etc. you want to update when they wake up in the morning or at evening
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You know, i think it is not about saturation of the fetish. Yes,guys can see feet outside, but maybe You are the one on whos feet they want to stroke:)))
See music market or movie market. How many films are done?how much music got played, and yet we have our fav every new month.
I saw once, girl here said. - i checked c4s and i know i can do some of those fetishes better.
Nah, you dont want to do it better! You want to do it different!

NervousBeaver
09-02-2015, 09:26 PM
you dont want to do it better! You want to do it different!

Yes!! I will continue to make foot fetish clips (but will also post in different categories). I have long size 11 feet and apparently a lot of guys are into long feet. And I try to develop my own style. I check what others are doing but I don't want to copy, it's just for inspiration or ideas.

Oh, and I see you have to send an ID pic if there is somebody else in your clip. I sent the ID pic. But I think I read somewhere that you have to make the other person sign something. I can't find the info anymore. Did I get that wrong? Is the ID pic enough?

SFHS
09-02-2015, 09:34 PM
Oh, and I see you have to send an ID pic if there is somebody else in your clip. I sent the ID pic. But I think I read somewhere that you have to make the other person sign something. I can't find the info anymore. Did I get that wrong? Is the ID pic enough?

You have to have them sign a model release form. Just google "model release form" and you can find one to print up.

Classy_Katy
09-02-2015, 09:57 PM
C4S told me that the model release form is only needed if it's asked for but it might be handy to get it done now in case of future problems.

visiono
09-03-2015, 03:08 PM
has payoneer been fully implemented now? is there another way to have a store if you don't have a bank account?