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Candy_Women
10-10-2015, 02:06 PM
The girls received payment from C4S?

Classy_Katy
10-11-2015, 02:35 AM
I should receive my cheque in the next few days.

Candy_Women
10-11-2015, 03:37 AM
I do not see whether the payment made.
Not in the previous payouts and payout summary.

SuperPookie
10-11-2015, 01:35 PM
Mine came a few days ago.

audritwo
10-12-2015, 11:40 PM
So, I'm trying to open a studio again. My application keeps getting denied. I've tried 3 seperate occasions. My first one was accepted, then an hour later I got an email saying I was denied. I'm submitting all the right forms. I cannot figure it out.

Classy_Katy
10-12-2015, 11:50 PM
So, I'm trying to open a studio again. My application keeps getting denied. I've tried 3 seperate occasions. My first one was accepted, then an hour later I got an email saying I was denied. I'm submitting all the right forms. I cannot figure it out.

I would email Sara and ask her to look into it [email protected]

EllieGold
10-13-2015, 12:04 AM
I tried the same thing .. its because you have to sign up a different way if you already have a studio open. Messaging support helped me open a second one. Is this a brand new one again or just additional store?

babyvixen
10-14-2015, 05:05 AM
Hi everyone! I'm (sorta) new to the forum (been a member for years and always lurked instead of post lol). I've finally decided to dive in and give C4S a try. I just wanted to thank everyone for taking the time to provide some amazing advice! I'm sure without it, I would've been a lost soul on C4S lol.

audritwo
10-14-2015, 05:48 AM
I closed my old studio two years ago. So brand spanking new.

EllieGold
10-14-2015, 06:52 AM
Messaging Studio support does the trick really well. They are always super helpful and can open the store immediately from my experience. Seriously, not sure what others experience is, but C4S Studio support has always been prompt and helpful. Way better than camsite customer & model support. Hope it gets fixed Audri!

EllieGold
10-15-2015, 10:57 AM
So i just got a bad clip notification... so strange. The clip was supposed to be a lactation video of mine back in August 2014. I got ahold of my FTP and its a smoking video from December 2014 in my new house. There was no way I uploaded back in August 2014 because well... I didn't live here yet. I lost my backups in September 2014 when that computer crashed so no go on getting it replaced. Just thought that was weird. Never have had this happen in 2.5 years owning a studio with Clips4Sale.

boyru
10-16-2015, 03:04 AM
What is about sales on C4S in October?
I have only only sale for 4.99 in October. But my studio has world's first unique extreme videos.
May be political reasons? Russians are not welcome anywhere.

MissJu
10-16-2015, 06:58 AM
What is about sales on C4S in October?
I have only only sale for 4.99 in October. But my studio has world's first unique extreme videos.
May be political reasons? Russians are not welcome anywhere.
Phew. For unique extreme videos you have to have unique extreme audience.

Sinna (2pee4you)
10-16-2015, 07:45 AM
What is about sales on C4S in October?
I have only only sale for 4.99 in October. But my studio has world's first unique extreme videos.
May be political reasons? Russians are not welcome anywhere.

I welcome Russians to all my sites, just like everyone else. A big amount of Russians is buying on clips4sale, why should they discriminate? Maybe if you gave a studio link, we could have a look to see what might be the reason for your disappointing sales figures.

It's funny that I read this here, because I wanted to post something else:

Girls, copyright claims on VK.com (a russian facebook style site) are such a huge pain, it's ridiculous. On top of that I found out something new, which is a total joke in itself.

When I did a copyright claim years ago on youtube, I just filled it in and sent it. The video was taken down the same day. Great. Now I had the same issue (exactly the videos from VK, because VK just doesn't take them down) on youtube again.

I went to claim the copyright when I see a red text in between the form that warns me: All my personal data, including my address and everything else I NEED to disclose on this copyright form, WILL be sent to the copyright violator. WHAT??!! Now that wasn't there a few years ago. Okay, forget about filling in any real information then, if filing a copyright complaint at all (you need to verify that you filled in real information after all) I just reported it for pornography. Easier and less risk.

But what do you do on VK? They don't regard it as pornography. I told them that it's ridiculous that I should send a photo of my ID along with all my personal information, including name and address, to some (Russian) thief that stole my content. For all I know it could be a stalker who knows that, to take my content down, I would need to file a DMCA complaint and provide all my personal info.

The VK guys say, according to the law, they are required to send all my data to the copyright violator. However, as far as I know, Russia does not even have to honor DMCA requests as they don't have to abide by american copyright laws. Easy as that.

Now the last option, seen as they don't consider my content porn/adult and they insist on sending all my details to the other party, is that I don't want my face to be shown. There could be a rule that let's them remove content if someones face is on there but the person did not agree to have it shown.

So I'll go that route now. It's been a few months now since I started to try and get the content removed. I first asked the guy politely if he would take it down, since it's my content. He told me in Russian to go fuck myself, then blocked me from his profile.

I also filled in the c4s content piracy report weeks ago. Have not heard anything from them. The videos, as I said, had spread from VK.com to other sites, just because those VK support guys take ages to answer and if they do, they don't help you a lot. The thief gets more protection than the victim. It's a total joke.

boyru
10-16-2015, 08:03 AM
But what do you do on VK? They don't regard it as pornography. I told them that it's ridiculous that I should send a photo of my ID along with all my personal information, including name and address, to some (Russian) thief that stole my content. For all I know it could be a stalker who knows that, to take my content down, I would need to file a DMCA complaint and provide all my personal info.

The VK guys say, according to the law, they are required to send all my data to the copyright violator. However, as far as I know, Russia does not even have to honor DMCA requests as they don't have to abide by american copyright laws. Easy as that.



i have a copyrights war with VK.com too. Pirates upload my stuff for private groups. Membership fee in private group is over 20$/month. They earn money on my stuff. I dont earn money on my paysites.
VK.com must be blocked forever, and violators must be in prison.


I think i have no sales on c4s, because we've started an avia operation in Siria.
I have 600-900 unique visits every day since 2012 year (google, from pay site, from free sites).
In August i had ~$25/day. Since 30 September - ~$0/day.
Visitors dont want to pay for the #1 danger (Obama's speech on UnitedNations meeting), which is Russia.

ruinator
10-16-2015, 03:35 PM
I welcome Russians to all my sites, just like everyone else. A big amount of Russians is buying on clips4sale, why should they discriminate? Maybe if you gave a studio link, we could have a look to see what might be the reason for your disappointing sales figures.

It's funny that I read this here, because I wanted to post something else:

Girls, copyright claims on VK.com (a russian facebook style site) are such a huge pain, it's ridiculous. On top of that I found out something new, which is a total joke in itself.

When I did a copyright claim years ago on youtube, I just filled it in and sent it. The video was taken down the same day. Great. Now I had the same issue (exactly the videos from VK, because VK just doesn't take them down) on youtube again.

I went to claim the copyright when I see a red text in between the form that warns me: All my personal data, including my address and everything else I NEED to disclose on this copyright form, WILL be sent to the copyright violator. WHAT??!! Now that wasn't there a few years ago. Okay, forget about filling in any real information then, if filing a copyright complaint at all (you need to verify that you filled in real information after all) I just reported it for pornography. Easier and less risk.

But what do you do on VK? They don't regard it as pornography. I told them that it's ridiculous that I should send a photo of my ID along with all my personal information, including name and address, to some (Russian) thief that stole my content. For all I know it could be a stalker who knows that, to take my content down, I would need to file a DMCA complaint and provide all my personal info.

The VK guys say, according to the law, they are required to send all my data to the copyright violator. However, as far as I know, Russia does not even have to honor DMCA requests as they don't have to abide by american copyright laws. Easy as that.

Now the last option, seen as they don't consider my content porn/adult and they insist on sending all my details to the other party, is that I don't want my face to be shown. There could be a rule that let's them remove content if someones face is on there but the person did not agree to have it shown.

So I'll go that route now. It's been a few months now since I started to try and get the content removed. I first asked the guy politely if he would take it down, since it's my content. He told me in Russian to go fuck myself, then blocked me from his profile.

I also filled in the c4s content piracy report weeks ago. Have not heard anything from them. The videos, as I said, had spread from VK.com to other sites, just because those VK support guys take ages to answer and if they do, they don't help you a lot. The thief gets more protection than the victim. It's a total joke.

There are quite a few sites out there that say they send your info to the violater. best option? hire a DMCA company as they don't send YOUR personal details, because they're a company acting on your behalf.

DonaDiabla
10-16-2015, 04:07 PM
Boyru,

What is your marketing like for this extreme material? Did you advertised on extreme forums? Or did you advertised on any forbidden 100 sites and other extreme search engines?


What is about sales on C4S in October?
I have only only sale for 4.99 in October. But my studio has world's first unique extreme videos.
May be political reasons? Russians are not welcome anywhere.

Luna66
10-16-2015, 04:24 PM
What is about sales on C4S in October?
I have only only sale for 4.99 in October. But my studio has world's first unique extreme videos.
May be political reasons? Russians are not welcome anywhere.


Visitors dont want to pay for the #1 danger (Obama's speech on UnitedNations meeting), which is Russia.

Dude, what the hell are you talking about?! If you have the content people want, they will buy it. They don't give 2 shits where you're from. Paranoid much?

MissJu
10-16-2015, 05:39 PM
K
i have a copyrights war with VK.com too. Pirates upload my stuff for private groups. Membership fee in private group is over 20$/month. They earn money on my stuff. I dont earn money on my paysites.
VK.com must be blocked forever, and violators must be in prison.


I think i have no sales on c4s, because we've started an avia operation in Siria.
I have 600-900 unique visits every day since 2012 year (google, from pay site, from free sites).
In August i had ~$25/day. Since 30 September - ~$0/day.
Visitors dont want to pay for the #1 danger (Obama's speech on UnitedNations meeting), which is Russia.
Seriously dude!stop that thing. Nobody's take obama seriously, relax,and do some work such as.
-maybe write a blog
-promote
-come up with more updates
-come up with new fetishes.

boyru
10-17-2015, 12:13 AM
I have been banned from extreme femdom forums in 2014 year. The reason was talking about politic in special forum of flame and free discussions. They had talk about civil war in Ukraine.

GREATEST! I have second sale on my store in October, +6.59$. There was 1700 unique visitors yesterday.
In good times i had conversation [600 visitors = +30$].
Traffic didn't fall, but sales disappeared. Why?

justsometwat
10-17-2015, 08:05 AM
I have been banned from extreme femdom forums in 2014 year. The reason was talking about politic in special forum of flame and free discussions. They had talk about civil war in Ukraine.

GREATEST! I have second sale on my store in October, +6.59$. There was 1700 unique visitors yesterday.
In good times i had conversation [600 visitors = +30$].
Traffic didn't fall, but sales disappeared. Why?

Why don't you post a link to your store so we can see?

I am making sales as I put my videos up and am making more money than I usually do, to if we can see your store we can help determine what's happening,

Luna66
10-17-2015, 10:58 AM
I have been banned from extreme femdom forums in 2014 year. The reason was talking about politic in special forum of flame and free discussions. They had talk about civil war in Ukraine.

GREATEST! I have second sale on my store in October, +6.59$. There was 1700 unique visitors yesterday.
In good times i had conversation [600 visitors = +30$].
Traffic didn't fall, but sales disappeared. Why?

Perhaps the people who bought your content before don't want to buy anymore for some reason. Maybe they didn't enjoy it or felt that it wasn't accurately advertised. Maybe your descriptions, previews or GIFs are not enticing. Maybe they're too enticing and people can jack off to them without buying the clip. Are you writing the descriptions in English? No offence but your English isn't great, maybe people can't understand the description or are worried that the description isn't accurate. Maybe you're just not very good at this (it is a difficult job).

There are a myriad of reasons traffic could still be high but sales low/non-existent. I can guarantee that your nationality is not the reason (unless like I mentioned before, your English descriptions are the problem. But then it's a problem with the level of English, not your nationality).

The percentage of buying customers who visit forums is so low I can guarantee that it wouldn't make your sales drop to zero. Also, I recommend not talking politics on forums where you are trying to advertise your content.

sovereignv
10-17-2015, 01:02 PM
Just applied to open a store. So sorry if this has been asked before, but... the "contact name" you supply during signup - customers can't see that, can they?

boyru
10-17-2015, 02:01 PM
Just applied to open a store. So sorry if this has been asked before, but... the "contact name" you supply during signup - customers can't see that, can they?

Customer dont see Your personal details (name, location, banking route).

boyru
10-17-2015, 02:02 PM
Why don't you post a link to your store so we can see?

I am making sales as I put my videos up and am making more money than I usually do, to if we can see your store we can help determine what's happening,

Could You send private message with instructions? I need Your help to be in top-100 "latest updated" stores.
Thanks!

Luna66
The best description is a good GIF or link to extralarge screenlist. I dont have ideas and cann't write hundreds unique descriptions every month.
I use high quality animated GIFs (60 frames).

justsometwat
10-17-2015, 04:09 PM
If you're looking to be in top 100 studios then that's going to be based on your earnings (for the week? right?)
If you're getting a lot of views and not a lot of sales then you're not uploading the right content. You say you have extreme and unique content so maybe there's not a large enough audience to appeal to.

Want to do well?

Update often! At least a few times a week around the same time - so pick certain days when you upload videos - people will come back to see what's new.
Update in categories with good traffic. If your niche is something not a lot of people upload to then there's no one driving traffic to that category. You will need to do your own marketing for that. So build a following on twitter or other social media.
Find categories that have great traffic that you can do and will do well. That will help with exposure. Even if it's something you haven't done before, you can try it out and see if that does well for you.
Look at your referring categories in your stats tab. What's being searched for? If you have that category but no one is buying then you aren't meeting their needs. Change it up. Maybe your videos are too simple or vague, maybe they are too specific.
Write good, detailed descriptions that fit your videos. When people know what to expect they will be more likely to buy.
Make good previews or gifs that are appealing and make people want to buy the videos.
You can even use the email system to let people know when you've uploaded. I wouldn't over do it though. I send an email at the start of the month, but you could send it at the beginning and middle of the month if you want. Just don't overload people or they will get irritated.

Make sure you keep personal opinions away from your marketing/social media. Obviously what you're saying isn't making people happy, so don't intentionally do stuff to drive potential customers away.

I can't tell you what you can specifically do to make your store become crazy popular, especially if you won't post your link, but there's a few things that a lot of store do to be great. That includes the stuff I posted above and being unique but appealing. Browse the top stores and see what they offer, but don't steal ideas, just use them to power your imagination!

Ashley_3
10-17-2015, 10:00 PM
Girls, copyright claims on VK.com (a russian facebook style site) are such a huge pain, it's ridiculous. On top of that I found out something new, which is a total joke in itself.


Oh, that's so bad, sorry to hear it. I was just searching for a video of mine on vk, but I can't even find it. A guy emailed me and from what he said it seems I have a video uploaded there.


i have a copyrights war with VK.com too. Pirates upload my stuff for private groups. Membership fee in private group is over 20$/month. They earn money on my stuff. I dont earn money on my paysites.
VK.com must be blocked forever, and violators must be in prison.

Oh, that's even worse. But I'm sad to say many other sites do the same. They take membership fees and all you can find is stolen content. I would really like to have a way to stop that.

boyru
10-18-2015, 01:56 AM
Ashley_3
There are hunreds boards, where pirates upload our stuff. They earn fast, easy and huge money.
They sale premium access for fast download from public share services.
I know that (working in femdom niche) pirate can earn up to $3000/month saling stolen videos from 10-15 premium paysites.


justsometwat
How can You explain total disappearance of sales (on c4s and on my niche paysite) from the moment of the beginning of military and air operation of Russia in Syria? From 30th Sep 2015. I have earnings before 30th Sep, but no after.
I have updates announce till March 2016 on paysite (regular updates since 2001 year).

justsometwat
10-18-2015, 05:47 AM
justsometwat
How can You explain total disappearance of sales (on c4s and on my niche paysite) from the moment of the beginning of military and air operation of Russia in Syria? From 30th Sep 2015. I have earnings before 30th Sep, but no after.
I have updates announce till March 2016 on paysite (regular updates since 2001 year).


See? You're doing it again. I'd imagine you going on about that kind of stuff is the exact reason why you're not making any money. I am not responding to your posts anymore. You're clearly not after help, but want to push some paranoid agenda. Nope.

MissJu
10-18-2015, 07:59 AM
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Could You send private message with instructions? I need Your help to be in top-100 "latest updated" stores.
Thanks!

Luna66
The best description is a good GIF or link to extralarge screenlist. I dont have ideas and cann't write hundreds unique descriptions every month.
I use high quality animated GIFs (60 frames).
To discribe a clip very important! Even if you put a gif, discription still very important!

pixiepower329
10-18-2015, 08:26 AM
And C4S can, at its discretion, pull clips down if you don't have a minimum 2-3 sentence description.

boyru
10-18-2015, 11:41 AM
How can i describe (different variants) of simple hunreds ass smelling videos with identical scenario/script?
The difference only in Girls. I cann't lie and write fantastic descriptions.

Sinna (2pee4you)
10-18-2015, 11:42 AM
boyru, I don't understand why you don't post a link to your store. It can only be good for you.

1700 Visitors / day would mean $170+ in my store. I have about a 1:100 conversion and the average sale is about $10. Sadly, I never have 1700 visitors. Not even close.

So you must be doing something really outstanding on the traffic end or my niche just doesn't compare :O I agree that it's hard to believe that you have no sales with that amount of visitors. For a day - okay, but not for several days in a row.

There must be some explanation in your store / content, so if you really need help, please provide a link.

EllieGold
10-18-2015, 03:28 PM
I've been at my store and I'm only really getting 400-800 hits a day (when I update often). I hope for over 1K a day in traffic. I think last Christmas I got on average 600-900 or so.. If you don't update for a couple days and I swear it drops dramatically.

Thanks to Sinna's blog I went from last month ($100 month) to earning again $400+ a month. However I'm in a small category with frequent updates so that's keeping me going.

boyru
10-21-2015, 12:36 AM
Why people make refunds? They know what they buy.

MissJu
10-21-2015, 10:02 AM
Why people make refunds? They know what they buy.
Sometimes by mistake they purchase same clip 2 times but from what i see, mostly they just steal your vids that way and post them on those pirate sites..
I have been bitching about that 20 pages back.

boyru
10-21-2015, 10:13 AM
I have 1 customer from OH state of USA.
He buys videos every month and makes refund after 2-3 days.

I decide to sale videos with my billing. I dont like anonymous sales.

MissJu
10-21-2015, 01:19 PM
I have 1 customer from OH state of USA.
He buys videos every month and makes refund after 2-3 days.

I decide to sale videos with my billing. I dont like anonymous sales.
did you tried to call clips4sale about this issue? They have ppl who speaks russian.

boyru
10-21-2015, 02:39 PM
MissJu.

I'm in deep depression. I've deleted over 1100 clips from c4s now.
I need week to gain strength and to start doing something.

MissJu
10-21-2015, 03:07 PM
MissJu.

I'm in deep depression. I've deleted over 1100 clips from c4s now.
I need week to gain strength and to start doing something.
Well, i really understand you! Back in july my clips got stolen too. My clips get stolen very frequently. Thats why i decide to not dedicate myself only to one thing. Everything can happens, do not put all eggs in one bucket.
try another clip sites.

boyru
10-22-2015, 08:51 AM
I have a question.
Why customers against to buy clips without anonimity?
I can sale them directly.

Tea4Me
10-22-2015, 01:14 PM
Anyone else notice that the C4S site looks a little...messed up today? The way it's displaying pages, without images? I just checked the main page, my store and a few categories and noticed the same problem.

Natalie0523
10-22-2015, 06:51 PM
So I just went to my members drop down box in my store to see how may hits I had today and it's reading 0. Zero. And the day is almost over. That is so so strange. Is it just a typo or is anyone else experiencing this in their store? I usually have anywhere between 600-1000 hits a day in my member's area.
Come to think of it, my store hits are very low as well today. 360. My average as long as I update is around 800.

Thanks for any input =)

Tea4Me
10-22-2015, 07:26 PM
So I just went to my members drop down box in my store to see how may hits I had today and it's reading 0. Zero. And the day is almost over. That is so so strange. Is it just a typo or is anyone else experiencing this in their store? I usually have anywhere between 600-1000 hits a day in my member's area.
Come to think of it, my store hits are very low as well today. 360. My average as long as I update is around 800.

Thanks for any input =)

Same here, 313 to be exact. I think they were having problems with the site today (see my post above yours). Earlier in the day the site wasn't displaying correctly. I tried it on my desktop, ipad and phone--all the same. But it seems like the site is fine now.

Missjayne77
10-22-2015, 09:27 PM
Anyone else notice that the C4S site looks a little...messed up today? The way it's displaying pages, without images? I just checked the main page, my store and a few categories and noticed the same problem.

The site wasn't loading properley for me either, think they were having issues which in turn would effect hits

NervousBeaver
10-23-2015, 01:20 PM
My traffic is down since the last 2 days. But I've also noticed that the numbers are not the same in the 2 graphics. Is it normal? Higher graphic says I had more hits than lower graphic. Beginning of the week numbers are similar but the last 2 days numbers have a huge difference. Weird...

Natalie0523
10-23-2015, 02:27 PM
I feel my clip sales are back to normal today. Very good day so far. The strange part is that I had one sale in my member's area but it still says zero in hits. lol So hopefully that means it's working from the customer's end.

boyru
10-24-2015, 02:53 AM
I had 530 hits yesterday, and only 1 sale. Not bad. I've earned 10.79$.
It is a good money in Russia.


I have a question about pricing.
What price can i put on videos which around the world only I have?
$60 for 20 minutes?

Sinna (2pee4you)
10-25-2015, 12:29 PM
So i just got a bad clip notification... so strange. The clip was supposed to be a lactation video of mine back in August 2014. I got ahold of my FTP and its a smoking video from December 2014 in my new house. There was no way I uploaded back in August 2014 because well... I didn't live here yet. I lost my backups in September 2014 when that computer crashed so no go on getting it replaced. Just thought that was weird. Never have had this happen in 2.5 years owning a studio with Clips4Sale.

Just saw that I somehow missed your post. I have had about 3 of these in all the years and 2 times it was actually c4s who mixed something up (1 time the clip was indeed not playing until the end). So in your case it might be an idea to get into the studio support chat and figure out what is going on. In my case, if I remember correctly, it was just a similar file name that caused the problem.

SuperPookie
10-25-2015, 04:53 PM
I have come to the conclusion that I just suck at clips. Even updating regularly, using key words etc my hits keep dropping. Yesterday it was 13, (one of which was a sale thankfully) the day before that 7 frigging hits.