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CatBBW
04-23-2016, 06:21 PM
Superpookie - that looks like the store that I've reported before for the same thing.

NervousBeaver
04-23-2016, 07:32 PM
There is so many clips if girls swallowing live fish on c4s, there is a studio with pretty much only this kind of clips and they are always on top of the vore category. C4s doesn't seem to care. I've seen so many clips breaking the rules. A face sitting video with the description that clearly indicated that the girl shits on the guys face in the top 50 clips. A top 50 studio model jumping on the face of a sub with visible blood showing. Ballbusting with blood... etc.

Also I got this message today:

" I would like you to swallow something live other than fish. I am tired
of fish. small animals or reptiles. what do you have? I am very
interested. frog, octopus, eel, mouse, alive. what you would swallow whole "

He is tired of fish... poor boy! He is talking like if it was normal to swallow live animals. And no, I don't have all these animals available, I don't have a zoo in my house. Wtf is wrong with people? *End of rant*

TXCamgirl
04-23-2016, 07:37 PM
I've asked c4s about the swallowing fish thing before. They said as long as you don't chew the fish it is legal as they do it on national TV.

Missjayne77
04-23-2016, 10:42 PM
How do you report a studio on C4S? Normally I'm pretty big about minding my own business but there's this chick swallowing goldfish and that's fucked up.

Oh that is not right...

Classy_Katy
04-24-2016, 12:41 AM
Yes...apparently it's ok to kill animals so long as there is no crushing, suffocation, poisoning or blood (I think those are all the things against the rules).

In the UK, someone was successfully prosecuted for swallowing a fish and inflicting cruelty. A vet testified that the fish would have suffered. In my view, a fish being out of water amounts to suffocation as it cannot breathe and it certainly can't breathe in stomach acid. Totally unacceptable.

I've had requests to crush any animal. It's best to have your pics in emails not automatically loading...some send pics from their collection of crushings!

SFHS
04-24-2016, 08:33 AM
Kinkbomb has been offering an extra 10% on sales this month so I went back to uploading content on my store there. I only have about a quarter of my clips on there and in the last year and a half I've made $150. But hey, an extra 10% is worth uploading more content to see if I can get more sales. I've been uploading clips all month long and not one damn sale but on Clips4sale I'm having my best month ever. That's why when other clip sites try to get me to sell my content on their websites I just ignore them because no one can compare to clips4sale when it comes to getting traffic to my store that translates into actual sales.

sexysusie
04-24-2016, 05:38 PM
I've asked c4s about the swallowing fish thing before. They said as long as you don't chew the fish it is legal as they do it on national TV.

I have reported one particular specimen (can't call her a human being) over and over and even sent screenshots to the rspca as goldfish swallowing IS illegal in the UK and she is a UK resident. But she's still up there and C4S say it's allowed so long as the fish is swallowed and not chewed. It's fucking sick. Those models should be ashamed!

I enjoy vore fetish and the things I have been asked for re animals/ fish/ crustaceans are beyond repeating!

EllieGold
04-25-2016, 12:13 AM
I updated in Lactating and it put me on the front page as "Freezing" and had the gif for that video. I had uploaded that hours earlier but why is it showing up on the main page instead of the one I just uploaded? Glitch?

Classy_Katy
04-25-2016, 05:32 AM
Same thing happened to me today! But then I realised it was a gif for a similar clip and may have had the same gif name as this new one, so I changed the new gif name and it's showing now thankfully.

Promised
04-25-2016, 11:14 AM
Everyone says don't list multiple clips together or you are wasting your "front page" time. My question is is it okay if they are in different catagories, or should you still release them apart from eachother?

SFHS
04-25-2016, 01:00 PM
Everyone says don't list multiple clips together or you are wasting your "front page" time. My question is is it okay if they are in different catagories, or should you still release them apart from eachother?

Post them a few hours apart.

Sinna (2pee4you)
04-26-2016, 11:21 AM
After asking about it again today, I just received this email from the c4s owner about the display number issue:

"We have a solution but give me a few days please. Just let people know we will have a fix for those who have the same issue"

That means I don't have to adjust my whole store and will patiently wait.

@promised, you may of course activate clips whenever you want. I mention on adult-income to post clips 20-30 minutes apart, because that is how long it takes for your first update to disappear from the recently updated studio list on the front page. If you post the second clip, even if it's just the same clip in another version or a clip for another category, that will delete your old link and add you again at the top of the list. So you basically lose some exposure time.

TXCamgirl
04-26-2016, 01:53 PM
After asking about it again today, I just received this email from the c4s owner about the display number issue:

"We have a solution but give me a few days please. Just let people know we will have a fix for those who have the same issue"

That means I don't have to adjust my whole store and will patiently wait.

@promised, you may of course activate clips whenever you want. I mention on adult-income to post clips 20-30 minutes apart, because that is how long it takes for your first update to disappear from the recently updated studio list on the front page. If you post the second clip, even if it's just the same clip in another version or a clip for another category, that will delete your old link and add you again at the top of the list. So you basically lose some exposure time.


Do you mean the new sort order they started doing with the last update? It would be great if it wemt back to the old way!

Sinna (2pee4you)
04-26-2016, 05:54 PM
Do you mean the new sort order they started doing with the last update? It would be great if it wemt back to the old way!

Yes, that's what I mean. I don't know if they revert it back. I only know that they will have a fix for us, who suffer from it, in a few days. Which I am looking forward to :)

Rispy_Girl
04-27-2016, 06:32 AM
Okay, sorry if I missed this. This is a long thread. What does the following mean with regards to using multiple clip sites?

3.2.5. By uploading media content ("Your Content"), You agree to give Us irrevocable nonexclusive royalty-free rights to use Your Content for any purpose, including publication, display, modification, and creation of derivative works. Your further agree that your will not license or permit use of Your Content to or by third parties seeking to create, or currently operating a substitute, or similar service or website as that offered by Us now or in the future. You further agree that, notwithstanding Your removal of Your Content from Our Site, You grant Our Users the irrevocable and nonexclusive royalty-free right to continue to view and use Your Content. We have the right to license any of Your Content up until the time You remove the file from the Website. Once submitted to Us, You may not remove Your Content from the Site until after Your Content has been posted for ninety (90) days, regardless of whether You choose to terminate Your Master Account. To be clear, once content is uploaded to Us, You must allow Us the opportunity to license Your Content for at least ninety (90) days.

5.7. License to Use Your Content: With the exception of personal financial and billing information, You hereby grant to Us the perpetual, unlimited, royalty-free, worldwide, non-exclusive, irrevocable, transferable license to run, display, copy, reproduce, publish, bundle, distribute, market, create derivative works of, adapt, translate, transmit, arrange, modify, sub-license, export, merge, transfer, loan, rent, lease, assign, share, outsource, host, make available to any person or otherwise use, any text, images, data, video or other information and content You provide on or through this web Site or Services or which is sent to Us or others by e-mail or other correspondence, for any purpose whatsoever. We shall not be subject to any obligations of confidentiality regarding any such information unless specifically agreed by Us in writing or required by law. We shall not be obliged to delete any such information from the Site.

6.3.1.1. Will not use Our Services in order to view, transmit, traffic in, or in any other way interact with, provide to any other person, or receive any content that is, in Our discretion, defamatory, obscene, harassing, illegal, involves underage participants, or is otherwise objectionable

Sinna (2pee4you)
04-27-2016, 06:57 AM
Okay, sorry if I missed this. This is a long thread. What does the following mean with regards to using multiple clip sites?

3.2.5. By uploading media content ("Your Content"), You agree to give Us irrevocable nonexclusive royalty-free rights to use Your Content for any purpose, including publication, display, modification, and creation of derivative works. Your further agree that your will not license or permit use of Your Content to or by third parties seeking to create, or currently operating a substitute, or similar service or website as that offered by Us now or in the future. You further agree that, notwithstanding Your removal of Your Content from Our Site, You grant Our Users the irrevocable and nonexclusive royalty-free right to continue to view and use Your Content. We have the right to license any of Your Content up until the time You remove the file from the Website. Once submitted to Us, You may not remove Your Content from the Site until after Your Content has been posted for ninety (90) days, regardless of whether You choose to terminate Your Master Account. To be clear, once content is uploaded to Us, You must allow Us the opportunity to license Your Content for at least ninety (90) days.

5.7. License to Use Your Content: With the exception of personal financial and billing information, You hereby grant to Us the perpetual, unlimited, royalty-free, worldwide, non-exclusive, irrevocable, transferable license to run, display, copy, reproduce, publish, bundle, distribute, market, create derivative works of, adapt, translate, transmit, arrange, modify, sub-license, export, merge, transfer, loan, rent, lease, assign, share, outsource, host, make available to any person or otherwise use, any text, images, data, video or other information and content You provide on or through this web Site or Services or which is sent to Us or others by e-mail or other correspondence, for any purpose whatsoever. We shall not be subject to any obligations of confidentiality regarding any such information unless specifically agreed by Us in writing or required by law. We shall not be obliged to delete any such information from the Site.

6.3.1.1. Will not use Our Services in order to view, transmit, traffic in, or in any other way interact with, provide to any other person, or receive any content that is, in Our discretion, defamatory, obscene, harassing, illegal, involves underage participants, or is otherwise objectionable

As I see it, this basically means - with regards to your question - that you can not upload your content to other clip-selling sites. However, in reality, c4s does not do anything against you if you do. Thy just don't allow you to advertise/link to another clip site, including your own. They allow links to a membersite in the producer emails / clipstore though.

I think it's like iwantclips forbidding any content that includes bodily fluids, which obviously is a total joke in the adult industry.

The implications are very critical. It basically means you have to trust them, because you have no legal grounds to stand on if shit hits the fan. The only safety you have is that it would be economical suicide if they were to cancel your account and keep selling your clips, as that would evaporate their reputation over night, cutting them off from new clips and thus making the business die within a few days / weeks.

I once learned that diplomacy is the art of having your hands so deep in each others pockets, that no one can move anymore. That's a little how I see it.

It's like no one in their right mind would ever agree to the apple terms of use, yet, everyone does. Fingers crossed, you know?

Rispy_Girl
04-27-2016, 10:34 AM
Thank you!

Cam_Model_Jess
04-27-2016, 04:28 PM
^Thank you so much, Sinna, I deleted the 1st batch I will wait a couple minutes just to be sure I didn't delete them from my actual store (I'm used to it taking like 5 minutes for any edits to appear in my store...)

My "membership site" looked absolutely crazy - clips that I had privated/hidden literally years ago visible there! Showing "views: 1" for those unpublished clips. Under "Members" in earnings at first I had "Hits: 1" but then "Hits: 31" looking at clips that I had hidden, that no one should be able to see...!

I msg'd support a while back, they asked me for a bunch of details including what bank account I have, now I'm not even sure if I can give that to them cause I'm in this weird studio set-up (a guy logs into my account and sends me money weekly, long story...) and those details are not accessible from admin but I'll let them know...

Anyways thank you, I will look out for deleting all of them, even though I have never ticked the box "make available in my members area"...

This actually happened to me once. I didn't do it. But I e-mailed support & they refunded the customer's money & stopped him from downloading anything. It was a bad glitch of some kind.

ericachronic
04-28-2016, 08:28 AM
This actually happened to me once. I didn't do it. But I e-mailed support & they refunded the customer's money & stopped him from downloading anything. It was a bad glitch of some kind.

I think its actually an exploit. Happened to me once also.

What they do is inject your clipstore number into a submission form used to sign up for a some ones membership site on C4S. This way they get access to any clips you were unaware you had uploaded to your membership site. When I first started I was unaware the checking the upload to your membership site also added a clip to your membership site rather then just your store.

Some one then took my clip store number and put it into the url to join the membership site and was able to view all of my clips. Yes I got paid but it was set to the default of $8 or what ever it was at that time. So they basically got $$$ worth of clips for only a few bucks.

This was like 3 years ago so I think the flaw was patched.

ericachronic
04-28-2016, 07:51 PM
Are the updates functioning correctly today. I released some stuff and it never showed up in the category I released it in. It did show up in my store though.

Classy_Katy
04-29-2016, 12:59 AM
Sometimes it takes a while for clips to show in a category...if it's more than an hour I would contact support.

Classy_Katy
04-29-2016, 05:39 AM
Each time I go into my store a different amount of my store info is showing at the top...right now it's only my store name, most of the time it's the top half and it misses out my email address etc. I wonder how many customers know to scroll upwards...new ones to the site won't realise information is being hidden. You'd think they would at least allow the featured clips and best sellers to show. I really don't want to put my email address in each description.

Sinna (2pee4you)
04-29-2016, 02:08 PM
It's a big inconvenience to all of us, but this time I think we should wait and sit it out until the transition to the "final patched version" (I know they patch all the time) is done.

@erica in your case though, that might not be part of the patching. It sometimes happens that either only your store or only your category is not being refreshed for new updates. In that case, open a support ticket. The clipstore support has the power to let the server refresh for just particular categories or stores. That normally fixes any updates not showing issue for any particular stores or whole categories.

It may take 20 minutes though, which would be enough in most busy categories to not be on top anymore, so it sucks either way :(

Candy_Women
04-30-2016, 01:43 AM
Hi girls, do you have a low sales? Every day I add new clips and rooms very low. I am not getting custom requests. :(

Classy_Katy
04-30-2016, 01:59 AM
Sinna, I don't think they're doing anything about the issues I mentioned. When I pointed out to Neil that our featured clips list and best sellers are being covered by that bar, he said that customers like the bar right above the first clip in the store.

Bootsie
04-30-2016, 07:27 AM
Sinna, I don't think they're doing anything about the issues I mentioned. When I pointed out to Neil that our featured clips list and best sellers are being covered by that bar, he said that customers like the bar right above the first clip in the store.

I don't think they are thinking about maximizing sales in individual stores, just maximizing sales in the site as a whole. That bar gives an easy way for guys to leave our store and go back to the main site list. Because of C4S's generous out-linking policy, there are a lot of traffic leaks (to girls doing custom clips and taking payment off-site because tributes are not allowed for clips, twitter accounts, cam sites, etc) and rather than changing their link policy this is their solution.

Classy_Katy
04-30-2016, 10:14 AM
But hiding the featured clips and best selling clips line can affect sales on the site...I thought that was a good feature.

Bootsie
04-30-2016, 12:01 PM
But hiding the featured clips and best selling clips line can affect sales on the site...I thought that was a good feature.

Yes, I agree, they are going at this in a really disorganized fashion. I doubt they have sat down to plan things out in an organized and sensible way. Sites never seem to, they just pick something to mess around with, but never think about the domino effect.

Blovely
04-30-2016, 04:19 PM
Hi girls, do you have a low sales? Every day I add new clips and rooms very low. I am not getting custom requests. :(

I haven't been getting many sales either. I was actually going to come here to ask something similar. I just started uploading again after taking a hiatus since 2013. I've uploaded a clip a week for about 5 weeks...I know its not alot but I thought I'd get more sales than 1-2 per clips and no sales for the newest clip I've released. I was beginning to think that maybe my clips sucked or something.

MissJu
04-30-2016, 06:54 PM
thats normal if clip does not sell right the way and 1 clip update would not make a differents really.

Bootsie
05-01-2016, 08:25 AM
I haven't been getting many sales either. I was actually going to come here to ask something similar. I just started uploading again after taking a hiatus since 2013. I've uploaded a clip a week for about 5 weeks...I know its not alot but I thought I'd get more sales than 1-2 per clips and no sales for the newest clip I've released. I was beginning to think that maybe my clips sucked or something.

5 clips in 5 weeks is really nothing, hardly a blip on the radar. The people on here who get the best results are doing at least 5 clips in a week, if not more. It is going to take quite a while for you to re-build the following you lost when you quit 2 or 3 years ago.

DonaDiabla
05-01-2016, 11:50 AM
Well, April was another good but not great month. However, I am getting more video sales for some reason. Also more and more guys are loving my robot and magic control videos. :) Now, I am off to create more interesting clips for May.

Bootsie
05-01-2016, 04:31 PM
The first part of April dragged for me and I was really worried, especially because I had put a lot of work into this month's clips, and truly felt that some of my best stuff ever was in there. Thank goodness for the last week of the month where it all paid off. It can be really hard to prioritize filming and editing and promo for clips I find (camming is my main income, but I would like to grow clips to hold up 1/3 of the equation), but when I keep slowly increasing my goals and hitting them, it makes me feel a lot more confident that I can handle clips.

Missjayne77
05-01-2016, 04:51 PM
5 clips in 5 weeks is really nothing, hardly a blip on the radar. The people on here who get the best results are doing at least 5 clips in a week, if not more. It is going to take quite a while for you to re-build the following you lost when you quit 2 or 3 years ago.

Agreed. I update both stores, twice a day , sometimes 3 times. You only get out, what you put in.

gril
05-03-2016, 12:12 PM
New rules on C4S

"
CLIPS DESCRIPTIONS

Please remember that the CLIP DESCRIPTIONS should ONLY be used for describing the clip associated with it.

CLIP DESCRIPTIONS should be no less than three (3) full sentences long and should describe exactly what the customer can expect to see in the clip itself. Please try to give as much of a "storyline" or description as possible as many customers rely heavily on the clip description in their decision whether or not to buy a clip. The more interesting the description, the more chance you have to sell your clip.

WHAT YOU CAN ADD

You CAN add direct links to OTHER CLIPS (such as - clips in a series: Part 1, Part 2 etc. or even clips which involve a similar fetish/category) to your clip descriptions if you wish.

Direct link HTML code snippets can be found on the LIST CLIPS page under each clip.

WHAT YOU CAN NOT ADD

You can NOT add email addresses, links to wish lists, links to websites or social media links.

All links should be placed in the TOP / BOTTOM HTML or in the TOP / BOTTOM TEXT sections of the EDIT CLIP SITE page.

Clips4Sale Management
Clips4Sale.com"

NervousBeaver
05-03-2016, 12:30 PM
So I guess we can't put a link to an external page containing custom video info and method of payment. Am I supposed to edit my 400+ videos to remove my links or what?

I don't think a lot of people notice the links that are on or the top/bottom sections. I'll just write the info/link for custom vids at the end of every clip if I can't advertise it in the clip descriptions.

Why don't they offer a way to sell custom videos directly on the site? They are missing out on tons of money. This is why other sites like IWC and MV are growing very fast. They need to modernize themselves and offer more options.

Classy_Katy
05-03-2016, 12:34 PM
Usually these changes are from now onwards, so I don't think you need to go back and amend your descriptions. If they don't want us to provide custom clips off the site they could at least give us the facility to do so, on the site. They have hidden our information at the top of our stores and unless a customer scrolls through all of our clips, they will not see our details at the bottom either.

SophiaSylvan
05-03-2016, 01:00 PM
So I guess we can't put a link to an external page containing custom video info and method of payment. Am I supposed to edit my 400+ videos to remove my links or what?

I don't think a lot of people notice the links that are on or the top/bottom sections. I'll just write the info/link for custom vids at the end of every clip if I can't advertise it in the clip descriptions.


Why don't they offer a way to sell custom videos directly on the site? They are missing out on tons of money. This is why other sites like IWC and MV are growing very fast. They need to modernize themselves and offer more options.

If they did, it would probably be at a shitty rate of them taking a 25-40% commission on customs, which would stick in my craw. Last I heard they are planning to integrate a system for customs. Perhaps this is their way of cleaning up the site so we can't redirect customers to outside payments.

lettysmoking
05-05-2016, 04:23 AM
Girls it's been a while, I see you struggle with not-so-fun fetishes and uploading 5+ times a week. There's so much money to be done in the smoking category I don't know why you're all doing weird shit with your throat, nose and whatnot.
Both categories are terrible right now and by uploading AT MOST 3 clips a week you can do at least 3k/month and the only requirement is being a smoker, bonus if you've a dick available to make BG videos and double bonus if you can smoke a cigar without being too silly about it.
Right now there's a spotlight to take and it's yours if you're willing to put in the work, and this spotlight is worth a bit more than 4k$/month. Go girls! ;)

Missjayne77
05-05-2016, 05:49 AM
Girls it's been a while, I see you struggle with not-so-fun fetishes and uploading 5+ times a week. There's so much money to be done in the smoking category I don't know why you're all doing weird shit with your throat, nose and whatnot.
Both categories are terrible right now and by uploading AT MOST 3 clips a week you can do at least 3k/month and the only requirement is being a smoker, bonus if you've a dick available to make BG videos and double bonus if you can smoke a cigar without being too silly about it.
Right now there's a spotlight to take and it's yours if you're willing to put in the work, and this spotlight is worth a bit more than 4k$/month. Go girls! ;)

I would rather be healthy and live longer for my kids then smoke.

TransdimensionalPrincess
05-05-2016, 07:04 AM
Girls it's been a while, I see you struggle with not-so-fun fetishes and uploading 5+ times a week. There's so much money to be done in the smoking category I don't know why you're all doing weird shit with your throat, nose and whatnot.
Both categories are terrible right now and by uploading AT MOST 3 clips a week you can do at least 3k/month and the only requirement is being a smoker, bonus if you've a dick available to make BG videos and double bonus if you can smoke a cigar without being too silly about it.
Right now there's a spotlight to take and it's yours if you're willing to put in the work, and this spotlight is worth a bit more than 4k$/month. Go girls! ;)

My smoking clips were the most pirated clips I ever created... so no thanks.

justsometwat
05-05-2016, 07:14 AM
Yep, I quit making smoking videos over a year ago (almost a year and half now!) and I'm still having to DMCA them. Some are fully nude and I don't do full nude anymore. It's been a pain in the ass.

I was always one of the top sellers in the smoking category, but it wasn't worth 100s of sites having my videos. Now my house smells better and I can smoke at my leisure.

I was one of the ones having such a bad couple of months but this month on all sites are already soooo much better!

SuperPookie
05-05-2016, 07:21 AM
Girls it's been a while, I see you struggle with not-so-fun fetishes and uploading 5+ times a week. There's so much money to be done in the smoking category I don't know why you're all doing weird shit with your throat, nose and whatnot.
Both categories are terrible right now and by uploading AT MOST 3 clips a week you can do at least 3k/month and the only requirement is being a smoker, bonus if you've a dick available to make BG videos and double bonus if you can smoke a cigar without being too silly about it.
Right now there's a spotlight to take and it's yours if you're willing to put in the work, and this spotlight is worth a bit more than 4k$/month. Go girls! ;)
I'd much rather struggle than get lung cancer :/. My health and future quality of life by far outweighs any temporary finacial gains that might be made from smoking clips.

Bootsie
05-05-2016, 08:08 AM
I think C4S is taking steps towards plugging traffic "leaks". I'm pretty fucking pissed I can't put my custom link in the clip description anymore. Maybe I will just tell them to visit my website and not make it an active link, idk. Really annoyed about it. They shouldn't be stopping us from promoting custom videos until their plan is READY, and they DEFINITELY shouldn't be doing it without telling us what the plan is going forward. I mean, remember when they were going to offer Payoneer as a payout option? They tested that LAST YEAR and nothing has come of it since then. So pardon me C4S if I don't believe your shit.

In other news, is anyone else having normal sales but about half their usual hits? It's very strange. My sales are normal, my new clips are selling as usual, but my hits are 50% of daily average, for 4 days now. Weird.

SophiaSylvan
05-05-2016, 10:08 AM
Girls it's been a while, I see you struggle with not-so-fun fetishes and uploading 5+ times a week. There's so much money to be done in the smoking category I don't know why you're all doing weird shit with your throat, nose and whatnot.
Both categories are terrible right now and by uploading AT MOST 3 clips a week you can do at least 3k/month and the only requirement is being a smoker, bonus if you've a dick available to make BG videos and double bonus if you can smoke a cigar without being too silly about it.
Right now there's a spotlight to take and it's yours if you're willing to put in the work, and this spotlight is worth a bit more than 4k$/month. Go girls! ;)
It really doesn't work for everyone. Likely you have a look that the smoking fetishists adore. My smoking clips have always sold just ok, the same as most of my other average fetish clips. And yes I've done smoky blowjobs and all kinds of things with it, including cigars.

space_cowgirl
05-05-2016, 10:13 AM
^ Agreed. You can't say that a certain category will work for every performer, it won't. That's like saying that we can all make X amount in taboo every month just because that category is hot now. We each have to do the work to examine what our customers like about us as individuals, and film accordingly.

Classy_Katy
05-05-2016, 11:39 AM
Anyone else unable to upload at the moment? I've tried both ways on the site and I just get 0% uploaded. The clip is only 429mb.

Natalie0523
05-05-2016, 02:57 PM
Anyone else unable to upload at the moment? I've tried both ways on the site and I just get 0% uploaded. The clip is only 429mb.

That was happening to me a couple days ago but then resolved itself. I have not had a problem today. Not yet at least.

Candy_Women
05-05-2016, 03:03 PM
Anyone else unable to upload at the moment? I've tried both ways on the site and I just get 0% uploaded. The clip is only 429mb.

Before the moment of upload and it works well.

EllieGold
05-05-2016, 07:50 PM
Yeah I'd say on average my store can rake in around 1k a month or so& I don't do TOO weird of stuff. However, in my defense, the weirder it is THE BETTER IT SELLS? Anyways, Smoking just isn't for me. You have to have a certain look (like stated before) to succeed.