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justanothercamgirl
05-14-2016, 09:15 AM
I don't do previews on c4s. But I do make teasers for YouTube social media etc. It really does make a difference in sales. So I would definitely use this feature on the site now that I can control what hey see first.

May I ask how you make your teasers?

I tried making them for YouTube before and even with no nudity in them they still flagged my account. :(

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-14-2016, 10:38 AM
May I ask how you make your teasers?

I tried making them for YouTube before and even with no nudity in them they still flagged my account. :(

Yes it has become a problem on youtube. I have them for 30 seconds and watermark it. I once had 50,000 subcribers on one account and it was shut down after five years. I was so hurt. So now I have two yt accounts for my clips. When they get shut down I don't really care because I only put up a few at a time. But theres dailymotion,vimeo. Even several in other countries I use. France,Germany and Russia.

YT may have a clips4sale c4s word filter in place? But really I think some of my accounts were deleted because someone reported me after I said I wouldn't add anymore freebies. Sometimes these guys don't like being told to pay. Even still I find that it increases my sales when I upload teasers.

MissJu
05-14-2016, 11:04 AM
Yes it has become a problem on youtube. I have them for 30 seconds and watermark it. I once had 50,000 subcribers on one account and it was shut down after five years. I was so hurt. So now I have two yt accounts for my clips. When they get shut down I don't really care because I only put up a few at a time. But theres dailymotion,vimeo. Even several in other countries I use. France,Germany and Russia.

YT may have a clips4sale c4s word filter in place? But really I think some of my accounts were deleted because someone reported me after I said I wouldn't add anymore freebies. Sometimes these guys don't like being told to pay. Even still I find that it increases my sales when I upload teasers.
did you earn something from youtube ads?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-14-2016, 11:07 AM
did you earn something from youtube ads?

No, not the ads. But the exposure that my teasers get, net me sales on c4s. I get skype shows too. Guys tell me they saw me on yt. And I have links to my website and clipstore on my bio pages. If you do use these kind of sites just don't get too attached to it because it may get deleted. And if that happens just set up another one with a different email address.

boyru
05-15-2016, 01:01 AM
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Even several in other countries I use. France,Germany and Russia.
...


Dont sale for russians. They buy and share Your videos for free on vk.com and pornolab.
I think 90% of pirate shaes comes from russians.

SophiaSylvan
05-15-2016, 06:11 AM
Also if you start a YouTube account for teaser purposes do not use your usual Gmail account, because Youtube=Google and they will shut down your Gmail account AND your YouTube account like they did mine. Luckily I had used a disposable Gmail account. Now I don't even bother with it but yes I got a few good fans from YT. I stopped when I couldn't keep a teaser up for a few minutes it seemed without it getting flagged. Now I just don't have the time.

justanothercamgirl
05-15-2016, 08:03 AM
Yes it has become a problem on youtube. I have them for 30 seconds and watermark it. I once had 50,000 subcribers on one account and it was shut down after five years. I was so hurt. So now I have two yt accounts for my clips. When they get shut down I don't really care because I only put up a few at a time. But theres dailymotion,vimeo. Even several in other countries I use. France,Germany and Russia.

YT may have a clips4sale c4s word filter in place? But really I think some of my accounts were deleted because someone reported me after I said I wouldn't add anymore freebies. Sometimes these guys don't like being told to pay. Even still I find that it increases my sales when I upload teasers.

Thanks so much for the advice, I didn't realize that you had to keep making throw away accounts. That does make sense.

space_cowgirl
05-15-2016, 08:55 AM
Heads up - studio support just told me that they are going to be discontinuing the practice of giving us access to our files when we need to download them. Kinda disappointing that we are losing that. :/

LazyCat
05-15-2016, 09:53 AM
Heads up - studio support just told me that they are going to be discontinuing the practice of giving us access to our files when we need to download them. Kinda disappointing that we are losing that. :/

How can they do that without disabling FTP also?

LazyCat
05-15-2016, 09:57 AM
Also if you start a YouTube account for teaser purposes do not use your usual Gmail account, because Youtube=Google and they will shut down your Gmail account AND your YouTube account like they did mine. Luckily I had used a disposable Gmail account. Now I don't even bother with it but yes I got a few good fans from YT. I stopped when I couldn't keep a teaser up for a few minutes it seemed without it getting flagged. Now I just don't have the time.

We had a youtube account for the last 3 months, and one video went viral with 1.5M views (made about $300 in revshare). Suddenly we started getting flagged so I started marking most of the videos NSFW (which turns off revenue share also). Even with that, one of the videos got flagged and we received our 3rd strike and the entire account was completely deleted with no recourse.

So youtube was an entire waste of time for us (even though our overall web traffic went up 10x) :-(

space_cowgirl
05-15-2016, 09:57 AM
Allowing uploads only, but no downloads? I don't know, that's just what they said to me today.

Classy_Katy
05-15-2016, 10:55 AM
How can they do that without disabling FTP also?

It's different. We have to ask them to allow us to do it...all they have to do is refuse requests.

MissJu
05-15-2016, 01:18 PM
youtube gems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BRfCu_2pbw how this does not get banned?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-15-2016, 01:35 PM
youtube gems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BRfCu_2pbw how this does not get banned?

I guess because it falls under educational. Meanwhile Rihanna on there showing titties and killing people in her videos ;D I really think its google vs the sex industry.

LazyCat
05-15-2016, 01:41 PM
It's different. We have to ask them to allow us to do it...all they have to do is refuse requests.

I guess that makes sense. You cant currently delete via ftp, so they will just block download also. Not sure the reasoning though.

LadyCoco
05-16-2016, 01:37 PM
I think a general Clip thread would be great, there are tons of new clip stores, Kinkbomb, C4S, Clipvia, fetishgirls, etc.

All with there own niches and rules.

Ca you upload the same clips across all sites or no?

Missjayne77
05-16-2016, 05:04 PM
Ca you upload the same clips across all sites or no?

Most yes

Missjayne77
05-17-2016, 05:56 AM
So I've noticed in the last week, - When I future date a clip to go live (say today at 9am)... and it's Ear Fetish clip. And my previous Clip from the day prior was Inflatables. That when I log on and look at the front page at 9am, it shows up as my previous inflatables clip. I thought the first time it was just something weird happening, but now it's happened more than 4 times in both stores. It's showing my previous clip and category instead of the current one... grrrrrr I have sent them a support ticket

Tea4Me
05-17-2016, 08:56 AM
So I've noticed in the last week, - When I future date a clip to go live (say today at 9am)... and it's Ear Fetish clip. And my previous Clip from the day prior was Inflatables. That when I log on and look at the front page at 9am, it shows up as my previous inflatables clip. I thought the first time it was just something weird happening, but now it's happened more than 4 times in both stores. It's showing my previous clip and category instead of the current one... grrrrrr I have sent them a support ticket

Yup! Been having the same problems. Had to contact support and they fixed it. Happened twice so far, so I just keep checking it now.

EllieGold
05-17-2016, 09:13 AM
I already sent a support ticket on this & 2 chats. IT'S NOT GETTING FIXED.

Lacy Luck
05-17-2016, 01:13 PM
So I've noticed in the last week, - When I future date a clip to go live (say today at 9am)... and it's Ear Fetish clip. And my previous Clip from the day prior was Inflatables. That when I log on and look at the front page at 9am, it shows up as my previous inflatables clip. I thought the first time it was just something weird happening, but now it's happened more than 4 times in both stores. It's showing my previous clip and category instead of the current one... grrrrrr I have sent them a support ticket

Same thing happens for me, but it always corrects after a while on its own. I notice because I'll sit on the front page refreshing to make sure. Sometimes it takes long enough for me to be scooted over to the second row.

justsometwat
05-18-2016, 10:57 AM
They added an toggle option at the bottom of your stores. Now the customer can toggle the infinite scroll off and on. If they turn it off they can choose pages rather than the infinite scroll.

Classy_Katy
05-18-2016, 10:19 PM
They added an toggle option at the bottom of your stores. Now the customer can toggle the infinite scroll off and on. If they turn it off they can choose pages rather than the infinite scroll.

I've just turned my infinite scroll off but it's now removed all my store info at the top.

After being given the brush off over my suggestion to allow the best selling list and featured clips carousel to show, as it's still content, they've now got it showing again without having to scroll up.

justsometwat
05-19-2016, 11:25 AM
I've just turned my infinite scroll off but it's now removed all my store info at the top.

After being given the brush off over my suggestion to allow the best selling list and featured clips carousel to show, as it's still content, they've now got it showing again without having to scroll up.

It removes the info from my store when I turn it off as well, I can't imagine that they did that on purpose? Maybe it is is an oversight?

Classy_Katy
05-19-2016, 12:36 PM
Someone asked Studio Support and apparently Neil wants it this way.

justsometwat
05-19-2016, 01:51 PM
Why are they so against having information on their site? So many sites freak out if you mention anything off site. I get it but you can't stop it 100%

Sinna (2pee4you)
05-19-2016, 03:35 PM
I hope they find a good way to give us the possibilities to present ourselves, but I am satisfied that c4s basically never went down during the process and was always open for orders. That's a very important thing not all sites manage to accomplish.

I also think it's amazing how they increased the page speed of the back, but also the frontend. If you have been on c4s a year ago, you know how long reports used to load, how long it took to re-sort your store, basically, how long everything took. It was not super slow, but now it's lightning fast. A thing that the competition is not aware of, as they are introducing feature after feature and competition after competition, social media campaigns etc. A very very very important factor not only for google ranking, but also for customer and studio owner satisfaction is page speed.

No one wants to wait until pages load. Amazon once found out that a minimal increase in page loading time already increased sales significantly. In that regard, it's incredible what c4s accomplished in the past year, even though I was not happy with some of the ways they did it in, like condensing the html code. I think their strategy will pay off. First increase site speed on back and frontend, then think about features and design.

It looks ugly as a process, but I am very happy, especially with how fast the reports in the backend load. There were times where I waited "for ages" to load a detailed report. Now it's a split second and it just happened over night with no downtime and no announcement of how they are "the fastest clipsite" now.

Having said that, did anyone else notice a transition towards bigger orders? I seem to sell less, but I have a lot more big orders. I think it's because of the page speed that enables customers to browse and shop more in a shorter amount of time. It could be because all my different file versions are out in the open now, because I noticed a huge increase in SD sales. My SD versions used to be hidden at the back of the store, so maybe the new sorting is working for me in that regard. It's still pretty ugly to have my store look like that.. but I have not suffered a lot in terms of sales, because, as mentioned, I get more big orders to compensate for the overall decline in order numbers.

Did anyone else notice a decline in sales in favor of more big orders?

Classy_Katy
05-19-2016, 09:55 PM
Yes Sinna, I did...although it's more that same person coming back several times and buying 1 or more each sale, for me. Why have the changes lead to fewer customers though?

MissJu
05-20-2016, 05:02 AM
I have noticed more big orders, like 10 clips in one purchase.

Kayden
05-20-2016, 05:15 AM
Yes Sinna, I did...although it's more that same person coming back several times and buying 1 or more each sale, for me. Why have the changes lead to fewer customers though?

I wonder... My last release is flopping, I was a bit surprised as it's comparably very affordable, was thinking maybe they're just sick of me (tbh I'm kinda sick of myself and I'm developing writer's block.) My satisfaction with what I'm putting out usually is directly reflected in sales, so if I'm only "kinda satisfied" the sales are likely to be unimpressive but still it was a nice little release and I'm pretty (very?) satisfied with it, so I couldn't help but think that they must just be sick of me...

But I was pretty surprised at the high placement in top studio lists (with comparably mediocre sales), in one category in particular, #2 with less than $50 from that category, selecting the current day and 6 days prior to that in the report, I don't remember my earlier observations but it was definitely more competitive than that...

So, purely my impression is that sales have been lower across the board (well, at least across several categories.)



Having said that, did anyone else notice a transition towards bigger orders? I seem to sell less, but I have a lot more big orders. I think it's because of the page speed that enables customers to browse and shop more in a shorter amount of time. It could be because all my different file versions are out in the open now, because I noticed a huge increase in SD sales. My SD versions used to be hidden at the back of the store, so maybe the new sorting is working for me in that regard. It's still pretty ugly to have my store look like that.. but I have not suffered a lot in terms of sales, because, as mentioned, I get more big orders to compensate for the overall decline in order numbers.

Did anyone else notice a decline in sales in favor of more big orders?

A more negative theory would be that something is pissing them off which prompts more risk taking. A scenario that could lead to more smaller orders: "B and C look great too but I'll get just A, I can come back later for B & C." More risk taking: "A, B and C look great, who knows the site might not load tomorrow, so A, B and C it is!"

But I guess it's the good with the bad, C4S messy architecture IMO is a direct consequence of the powerful customization options that they offer (as an extreme example of the opposite, ELM even has character limit for descriptions, like 500 chars - approx. 2 paragraphs, it's so stupid, I want to close my account there on this basis alone.)

LadyCoco
05-20-2016, 09:19 AM
How long does approval usually take? I really want to get started!

LadyCoco
05-20-2016, 04:16 PM
Nvm I checked my emails and it said I would hear back within 24 hours. I have not so I sent a ticket.

DonaDiabla
05-20-2016, 09:16 PM
Oh Miss Ju,
I thought it was just happening to a few people but I had a customer that brought like 15 clips at one time this week ;)



I have noticed more big orders, like 10 clips in one purchase.

EllieGold
05-20-2016, 09:59 PM
Yes I got a huge order within the last month. Like HUGE. I was worried. Sales are OK this month but I'm nowhere I'd like to be. It's been hard but we still have what 10 more days?

MissJu
05-21-2016, 04:34 AM
Oh Miss Ju,
I thought it was just happening to a few people but I had a customer that brought like 15 clips at one time this week ;)
i have noticed that since beginning of the month only a couple ppl bought a single clip, mostly bought 3 and more.
Well done c4s.
But i got a chargeback, at least c4s wrote that customer banned. but charge back was made for march purchase.

SuperPookie
05-21-2016, 06:05 AM
Whatever happened that made the upswing in store visits has stopped unfortunately. I had almost 500 hits on Tuesday and under a 100 everyday since then and I've been uploading 2-3 times per day.

Bootsie
05-21-2016, 08:35 AM
Both my C4S hits and my GA hits (which I tend to believe more) are in the toilet, and my sales are low...the month started well but things have really dropped off. I don't know why my hits are so low, I am still promoting on twitter and my website and such. My hits from twitter and my site have stayed pretty constant but hits from within C4S have dropped like a stone.

I have infinite scroll on, but the top info on my page keeps getting cut off at random places. Super annoying, but then guys can't really see it anyway. And since I now can't put links to my customs order form in the description...UGH. Just UGH. I wish C4S bothered to keep us in the loop as to their ultimate plans.

Missjayne77
05-21-2016, 05:34 PM
Yep- My Sales are still doing ok, but hits have almost halved!

EllieGold
05-21-2016, 05:55 PM
Hits are still OK for me but sales have dipped big time.

LadyCoco
05-21-2016, 10:29 PM
Well that sucks to hear when I finally got accepted.

MissJu
05-22-2016, 04:18 AM
Well that sucks to hear when I finally got accepted.
Do not overreact.
This month is good for me:)

Bootsie
05-22-2016, 07:57 PM
Yeah, my sales are fine, pleased with them so far. Plus as you can tell from this thread, some people have great sales when others are low, it's all individual!

SweetCandy
05-24-2016, 11:48 AM
Yes I got a huge order within the last month. Like HUGE. I was worried. Sales are OK this month but I'm nowhere I'd like to be. It's been hard but we still have what 10 more days?

Hi I sent you a private message not to long ago concerning c4s and pregnancy. I saw in another thread that you wouldn't mind sharing details about pregnancy and c4s. Hope it was OK to PM you thanks...

LazyCat
05-25-2016, 10:05 AM
So clips4sale still hasn't fixed the default sort order - everything still sorts by date added. What I did notice is that is NOT the case from the home page (with no category selected). When you click a studio it honors the sort order that you had configured with your studio.

It's been weeks now, I wish they would fix this. argh.....

ladyabby
05-25-2016, 01:08 PM
Hi! I opened a studio recently and have had some requests for custom videos.
How would you recommend doing those?

-Do the customers pay you before you make the video? Or after, if the price is per minute, so you know how long the video is?
-By what method should they pay? Through the C4S site?
-How do you send them the video? As an email through the C4S site?

Missjayne77
05-26-2016, 12:39 AM
Hi! I opened a studio recently and have had some requests for custom videos.

How would you recommend doing those?

-Do the customers pay you before you make the video? Or after, if the price is per minute, so you know how long the video is?

You charge per min and they tell you how many minutes they are willing to pay. I make them pre-pay for my time, but each to their own choice.


-By what method should they pay? Through the C4S site? I make them tribute me yes, but others do differently.


-How do you send them the video? As an email through the C4S site? Send them a link to download it from wherever you have uploaded it. (i.e. - Dropbox, Project Maenead) or if they aren't pre-paying just put it in your store to buy.



This forum is a wealth of information, you should probably go back and read the C4S threads. Good Luck

EllieGold
05-26-2016, 09:14 AM
June, please be here. I need a reset on my store. I've had enough of $0-10 days. Men just aren't paying for my stuff. I am not ready to quit just yet. June will be awesome, i just know it!

justsometwat
05-26-2016, 11:17 AM
I had two big sales this month and then just deal silence. I've been getting maybe one sale a day. I'm not even at $1000 yet. Been stuck just below for a week now.

Cam_Model_Jess
05-26-2016, 11:37 AM
Hi! I opened a studio recently and have had some requests for custom videos.
How would you recommend doing those?

-Do the customers pay you before you make the video? Or after, if the price is per minute, so you know how long the video is?
-By what method should they pay? Through the C4S site?
-How do you send them the video? As an email through the C4S site?

You're really going to have to do your own research as to which method works best for you, but I will say: DO NOT make the video until the customer has paid IN FULL. Also, C4S doesn't allow you to accept custom payments on their site. If you get caught, you get in trouble.

boyru
05-26-2016, 02:07 PM
3 days, 3900 visits, $17 of earnings
very bad end of month...