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Donna1988
06-14-2016, 05:14 AM
All international payments will go through Poland intermeadiate bank. If this bank doesn't accept adult money we will never see our earnings. And this situation is not C4S fault. It will be fault of Poland intermediate bank.

Surely that won't be the case as I am confident c4s would have figured this out firstly

xdestinyx
06-14-2016, 05:18 AM
All international payments will go through Poland intermeadiate bank. If this bank doesn't accept adult money we will never see our earnings. And this situation is not C4S fault. It will be fault of Poland intermediate bank.

Banks are required to transfer money. Only government offices can change something.

boyru
06-14-2016, 05:25 AM
Approx. 20% of Russian banks don't accept "adult" transfers from outside. They collect information about transaction before it will be appeared on personal account of client in this bank. If they have doubts of origin they freeze money. This banks absolutely dont accept adult and terrorism money as i know.

I dont know about Poland banks rules.

Sorry, i dont want to insult Poland and population of Poland.

missjade
06-14-2016, 05:32 AM
No money nothing...... nothing else to add
very disapointed here

xdestinyx
06-14-2016, 05:33 AM
In Russia political leadership control everything... But here is Poland, onions and beets if you know haha... Banks are for people, like store or cinema.

MissJu
06-14-2016, 06:05 AM
I wonder how does the bank see if money comes from adult business?
Lets not get political here. Everyone have their opinion on situation from own prospective.

yumei
06-14-2016, 06:06 AM
2nd bank's session- still nothing.
can someone call/write to Neil?
Obviously support not supporting us

pamperz
06-14-2016, 06:06 AM
I'm from Canada, also missing my payment.

I also received this from Gia yesterday "I am calling the bank today to make sure all payments have been sent and released to the banks."

I responded this morning asking for updates and no response.

I'm in the same boat as you ladies, stressed out... and bills are coming up...

boyru
06-14-2016, 06:14 AM
I wonder how does the bank see if money comes from adult business?
Lets not get political here. Everyone have their opinion on situation from own prospective.

Our banks have big registry of the inside and outside companies. Our banks know, that Intermark Management is a C4S Adult.
I get earning from another US Billing. But they always send from the owner of Billing and not from organization. So i dont have questions about origin of the money in banks.
He is another situation. They send our earnings from organization Intermark Management Inc. And everyone knows that Intermark Management Inc is from Adult Business.

I am waiting for my money too.

By the way.
I have sales yesterday and have them today with 0 hits in stats.


P.S.
Let we dont disturb C4S with payments. If they have sent money - they are not in the situation at the moment.

pamperz
06-14-2016, 06:32 AM
Yikes...I just tried logging into my account and received this message "Restricted login. Please contact support for assistance".

Has anyone had that happen before? What does it mean?

Amedee Vause
06-14-2016, 07:17 AM
One sale today and still the interface shows 0 hits... this is getting weirder by the hour!

Natalie0523
06-14-2016, 07:54 AM
I just logged into my admin and C4S is stating they'll be doing upgrading & maintenance work for the next two weeks. It shouldn't cause any problems although if it does we should open up a support ticket & the programmers will look into the issue.
Hope it goes smoothly.

I've had sales today but have 0 hits.

Donna1988
06-14-2016, 08:21 AM
If we are really going to get paid eventually what's the point in postponing us and not give us exact infos? We will probably get a reply tomorrow where they tell us we will get money ,
'tomorrow' or 'should get it this week'...��

yumei
06-14-2016, 08:29 AM
according to their infos- we should get money this week.
But I dont believe them anymore.This is so fucked up;/
They should test new banking payment before payment.

LadyCoco
06-14-2016, 08:42 AM
It sounds like a case of they need to hire more support in both accounting and technical aspects of their website. What a time for me to join lol. I've been reading up on everything and learning a lot. But I still have faith in this site.

gril
06-14-2016, 08:51 AM
Ok I'm getting worried now. Still no money and live support is telling me to contact Gia. Is there at least one person who received the money outside the US? Are we really only a handful of studios who still haven't gotten their payment?

barbiplaymate
06-14-2016, 10:20 AM
Still nothing today.., again...

8pm will be last Account update from my Bank.
But bot really much hope anymore..

Support only tells me to contact Gia...
Cant help any further..

yumei
06-14-2016, 10:42 AM
ok girls so my girl friend gets this answer from support:
"No international stores have been paid. We are working to resolve this."

so no international store doesn sound like "handful".......

barbiplaymate
06-14-2016, 10:43 AM
ok girls so my girl friend gets this answer from support:
"No international stores have been paid. We are working to resolve this."

so no international store doesn sound like "handful".......
Sound just awesoooome...

Donna1988
06-14-2016, 10:51 AM
Which means they lied all along with payments being sent friday. They just said it to shut us up for the weekend. Prepare for more bs...

gril
06-14-2016, 11:59 AM
ok girls so my girl friend gets this answer from support:
"No international stores have been paid. We are working to resolve this."

so no international store doesn sound like "handful".......

What the fuck :/ Support on live chat disconnects me when I ask them if it's true lol

Classy_Katy
06-14-2016, 12:06 PM
Yup...I saw that on another forum. No international payments made...which makes sense if the problem is banking rules. I don't think this is going to be a quick fix, sounds like they're going to have to change banks again somewhere along the line.

justsometwat
06-14-2016, 12:09 PM
Please be advised - Over the next two (2) weeks we will doing a series of server changes, upgrades and maintenance.

We do not expect any issues, however if you have any problems please MAKE A SUPPORT TICKET as that is the fastest way for our programmers to see and fix any possible problems.

http://support.clips4sale.com

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Clips4Sale Management
Clips4Sale.com



Oh god.

Donna1988
06-14-2016, 12:09 PM
Apparantly Neil won't take calls any more , isn't that great! The lady that answered his direct line says she has been instructed to say only the billing department has information and that we have no info and that we should email the billing department.
This is smelling fishy, now Neil is ignoring...that's what usually happens when people end up with no payouts!
On the other hand I received this from support, apparantly the funds were returned because of missing information. I doubt the funds were even sent to begin with.
Something is definetly not right here and they won't provide us with the honest information as to what the real problem/error is.

Sara - C4S has replied to your support request, #137134 with the following response:

"Hello xxxx,

We apologize for the inconvenience. We have switched banks and the new bank had the files messed up and many wires were returned due to insufficient information. This is the first time in ten years that this has occurred. Please be patient.
We are working with the banks to fix this as soon as possible.

Clips4Sale Management
Clips4Sale.com

We hope this response has sufficiently answered your questions. If not, please do not send another email. Instead, reply to this email."

boyru
06-14-2016, 12:39 PM
What do the "top50 studios" owners say? Did they get earnings?

xdestinyx
06-14-2016, 01:41 PM
No money, no true answer... Amazing

boyru
06-14-2016, 02:08 PM
How can I get money if i'll live in US, Georgia State?
ACH and check only?

Tea4Me
06-14-2016, 03:33 PM
Wow. This whole thing is really shitty, how C4S is handling the international payouts (or not handling them). Everyone has a right to be furious, not only because of the delay but of the way they aren't getting any answers. It will be really interesting to see how this plays out and what the reasons for the delay were. There should be updates when you sign into your store or on their twitter or SOMEWHERE.

I don't get how something SO big wasn't thoroughly researched ahead of time...? I mean, when they were switching to a new bank, I'm sure they had to make sure that they could handle international transfers for the C4S producers outside of the US. So how did it go so WRONG? So many questions and no answers.... yet).

I feel for those of you who don't have your money yet and hope you get it soon!

Djoser
06-14-2016, 06:27 PM
Please, if you don't know for a fact which bank will or will not seize money, don't post it.

Ashley_3
06-14-2016, 10:55 PM
I received my cheque in Canada a day earlier than usual actually.
The date on my check says it's issued on 07/06 and the date on the envelope says it was sent on 03/06 :D Not sure how they do that, but I got it earlier in the mail too.


I'd love Payoneer as a payment option from c4s. We should push this, maybe they will agree to it in the end? If nobody is asking, they obviously see no reason to adding Payoneer. Let's make a petition or something ;D
Agree, I really want that! Two months ago I asked Sara what's going with that as it was a year since they tested it. The answer I got was - "We are still in testing for that payment option. No word yet on adding it as we are working on a new admin for studios at this time."

missjade
06-14-2016, 11:40 PM
This how they treat us when we keep asking about the payments
booted out of the chat


Mary (11:32:33) : I am sorry we cannot provide more details as of now, but the payouts dept will get back to you when they have an update
Jade (11:32:43) : and nobody takes the time to answer it
Jade (11:32:52) : and when will that be
Jade (11:32:58) : today tomorrow next year
Mary (11:33:23) : I am sorry I do not have more details about it.
Mary (11:33:29) : I will forward this to Neil and management for review
Mary (11:33:44) : And you will hear back from the payouts department when they have an update.
Mary (11:33:45) : Have a nice day.
Disconnected by the operator. Chat session has ended.
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and still no payments here

Classy_Katy
06-15-2016, 01:21 AM
It seems very strange that new banking rules came in at the same time as changing their banking arrangements...it sounds like someone didn't do enough checks before the change was made.

Donna1988
06-15-2016, 01:36 AM
Oh god.


Just been told that the wires payment was in fact sent out on Monday and should reach studios by this Friday, but the lady megan is getting accounts to confirm this for me. I spoke to her on the chat.
Now I am worried as sara told me it was being processed last Friday to clear Monday or tues!! something is very odd...

The 'should' doesn't sound very convincing at all. I am not a medium but I can almost tell I'll be broke for the weekend too. With every 'should' email we only waited and got disappointed

xdestinyx
06-15-2016, 02:04 AM
We used a new bank this month and they read the file incorrectly, We are having a conference call in 30 minutes with the bank to find out the issue and correct it. - message from last night... Supposedly they sent but money can not reach out and get back to them...

missjade
06-15-2016, 02:06 AM
There is no way what so ever that it takes banks so long to figure this out...

I worked for a Dutch bank for years.... even then it was faster then what they are doing now..
Its not possible thats why I tell them quit the lies and the excuses...
It takes 24 hrs maximum 48 hrs to transfer wires, international i mean.
I recieve from IWC the same day!!! The fucking same day, same as for KB the same day i get my payments

They are stating that the bank is missing info for the payouts... then why is support not emailing us for extra info?

Its not that difficult for banks for god sake even for an EU wire you only need name, iban and name of the bank thats all... I know that for 110%sure cause im dutch but i live in another country in the EU... camsites from the Netherlands wire on tuesday morning my money and the same day im at the atm!

Ok then we talk now about a wire from the USA but hey that aint thirth world country, like i said i recieve from IWC en KB the same day!
I have no more faith in them and Absolutley dont believe them anymore...

missjade
06-15-2016, 02:09 AM
What do they misread.. its all in the computers, computers dont read wrong... Lies again

xdestinyx
06-15-2016, 02:23 AM
What do they misread.. its all in the computers, computers dont read wrong... Lies again

I think same like Jade.

Amedee Vause
06-15-2016, 03:22 AM
Alright, let me say something constructive here:

If c4s becomes unavailable for people outside US what other options are there?
I'm currently active on extralunchmoney.com, manyvids.com and mydityhobby.com.

:
- offers 65% to model
- it's mostly for customs, people there rarely buy pre-made clips
- pays through paxum also

:
- offers 60% to model
- it's quite hard to get exposure and thus sales are very slow at first
- average clip prices are a bit higher than c4s

:
- you get exposure, sales pick up fast if you've got a good profile... but,
- models only get 25% to start with. They say you can negotiate up to 60%, but I don't put my hopes in that statement
- there's a videochat system

That's what I know. If you people have good info about other clip-sites please share. We might need to move shop.

Thanks!

boyru
06-15-2016, 03:49 AM
If c4s becomes unavailable for people outside US what other options are there?


How can i chnge owner for my store?
The General Director of the famous US Billing can help me in this situation. He will get ACH payment from my store and put on my US Billing account.

missjade
06-15-2016, 04:06 AM
Alright, let me say something constructive here:

If c4s becomes unavailable for people outside US what other options are there?
I'm currently active on extralunchmoney.com, manyvids.com and mydityhobby.com.

extralunchmoney.com:
- offers 65% to model
- it's mostly for customs, people there rarely buy pre-made clips
- pays through paxum also

manyvids.com:
- offers 60% to model
- it's quite hard to get exposure and thus sales are very slow at first
- average clip prices are a bit higher than c4s

mydityhobby.com (http://www.mydirtyhobby.com/):
- you get exposure, sales pick up fast if you've got a good profile... but,
- models only get 25% to start with. They say you can negotiate up to 60%, but I don't put my hopes in that statement
- there's a videochat system

That's what I know. If you people have good info about other clip-sites please share. We might need to move shop.

Thanks!

www.iwantclips.com
www.kinkbomb.com

that are the other 2 that i use for clips

boyru
06-15-2016, 04:13 AM
kinkbomb doesn't accept Russians and ask studio to give copyrights for kinkbomb

xdestinyx
06-15-2016, 04:25 AM
Can you tell more about

DonaDiabla
06-15-2016, 04:50 AM
Yes, you are correct that extralunchmoney is best for customs. Guys order customs from me on there :)


Alright, let me say something constructive here:

If c4s becomes unavailable for people outside US what other options are there?
I'm currently active on extralunchmoney.com, manyvids.com and mydityhobby.com.

extralunchmoney.com:
- offers 65% to model
- it's mostly for customs, people there rarely buy pre-made clips
- pays through paxum also

manyvids.com:
- offers 60% to model
- it's quite hard to get exposure and thus sales are very slow at first
- average clip prices are a bit higher than c4s

mydityhobby.com (http://www.mydirtyhobby.com/):
- you get exposure, sales pick up fast if you've got a good profile... but,
- models only get 25% to start with. They say you can negotiate up to 60%, but I don't put my hopes in that statement
- there's a videochat system

That's what I know. If you people have good info about other clip-sites please share. We might need to move shop.

Thanks!

gril
06-15-2016, 04:51 AM
Ok I totally lost hope. I'm out of money and I have to pay my bills. Can't they just give us a final answer? Gia isn't responding to my e-mails and live support is disconnecting me from the chat.

Donna1988
06-15-2016, 05:14 AM
Ok I totally lost hope. I'm out of money and I have to pay my bills. Can't they just give us a final answer? Gia isn't responding to my e-mails and live support is disconnecting me from the chat.

By the looks of it I think we can kiss our money good bye. Neil won't take calls anymore, no reply from support, lies when we get replies and they are disconnecting us from chat..:( :(

Incantatious
06-15-2016, 05:23 AM
By the looks of it I think we can kiss our money good bye. Neil won't take calls anymore, no reply from support, lies when we get replies and they are disconnecting us from chat..:( :(

They HAVE to pay us. They know their strong reputation and even mention it themselves, I don't think they'll be too eager to kiss THAT goodbye by just giving up on paying us what we've earned.

The last they gave in terms of info about when we should get our money was the 16th, tomorrow.

yumei
06-15-2016, 05:27 AM
The last they gave in terms of info about when we should get our money was the 16th, tomorrow.

Where is this info from?
I hope they will not screw us;/

Amedee Vause
06-15-2016, 05:51 AM
that are the other 2 that i use for clips

Can you please give a bit more details about iwantclips.com?

Like: How's business there? Do you get frontpage exposure? How hard is it to make yourself known there?

Thanks!

Amedee Vause
06-15-2016, 05:55 AM
Yes, you are correct that extralunchmoney is best for customs. Guys order customs from me on there :)

What other clipsites are you active on?

pamperz
06-15-2016, 06:16 AM
Extra lunch money is the other place I sell at the moment. Certain categories of clips sell quite well for me on the actually. Others not so much. I get a decent amount of traffic/custom requests.

The downside is a lot of guys on there are cheap and will ask for ridiculous deals, but if you hold firm to your prices you will find customers that are willing to pay you what you're worth.

They also have the option to sell physical goods, such as used panties and socks.

Still, I had a fetish niche that was doing really well on c4s, and I was making 5x the amount on there then I do on elm so I would certainly miss that income if they don't come through for us...