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Tea4Me
06-21-2016, 11:19 PM
Just curious.....anyone else have really slow (low) sales days the past 2 days, or is it just me? This month has been going great so far and then out of the blue it's like sales dried up. Very strange....

lil_smiley
06-21-2016, 11:22 PM
yes last days are slow for me too

Incantatious
06-22-2016, 12:15 AM
Still nothing for me. And this months sales have sucked.

gril
06-22-2016, 12:32 AM
Still no money. Yeah...

LiLuHotty
06-22-2016, 02:06 AM
still nothing, and yes last two days sales sucks, the rest of the month was great

bootiebabe
06-22-2016, 02:16 AM
Received my payment today, hopefully the rest of you will today as well.

Donna1988
06-22-2016, 02:39 AM
Hmm I got paid again too. 1st Yesterday now 2nd today

LiLuHotty
06-22-2016, 04:15 AM
one more idea...

if Payoneer attaches to its users a real usa bank accounts, it means we dont need C4S to be involved with Payoneer..... do i understand it right? we can just provide C4S with USA bank account that is attached to us by Payoneer and C4S can send us ACH and/or local usa wires .... its all what we need right? fast and simple

am i right? or am i right?!

Kayden
06-22-2016, 06:31 AM
one more idea...

if Payoneer attaches to its users a real usa bank accounts, it means we dont need C4S to be involved with Payoneer..... do i understand it right? we can just provide C4S with USA bank account that is attached to us by Payoneer and C4S can send us ACH and/or local usa wires .... its all what we need right? fast and simple

am i right? or am i right?!

I might be completely wrong about this but the line "get a US bank account with Payoneer" was more like a marketing trick...? Or there was a special condition that adult entertainers can't use that option. Don't remember now...

Because otherwise I would had gotten such an option a long time ago.

How Payoneer works for me is that there are sites "linked" to it (in other words the site paying to my PY account need PY to be "integrated" in their payment options) and then I have the Global Bank Transfer option set up which sends it from my PY account to my local bank account ($5 per GBT transfer) I left it to transfer in $, when it hits my bank it's set to automatically convert it to € (my local currency) by my bank's rate (which seems to be very fair) and voila'!

The thing is – as Bootsie posted – that they actually had a successful test run of Payoneer integration but then just abandoned it!? I didn't know this and I don't get it. I would be willing to bet 90%+ of international studios would switch to it and this wire debacle would be 10x smaller and Jesus Fuck those banks are ripping you another asshole with those fees, what do they do? Numbers suddenly appear on a different screen and you pay $50 for that, it's like gmail asking you to pay $50 to send an email message, it's appalling, the last time I did an international transfer from my local bank account (within eurozone though) I paid €0.30 (that's like 40 dollar cents).

DonaDiabla
06-22-2016, 06:56 AM
Actually, I had a lot of sales over the past week. I would say that more findom and interracial domination clips sold this month.

Lillyxxx
06-22-2016, 07:12 AM
Ehhh....i still have no money. 2 days ago they said they will call the bank, yesterday that they will trace my payout, today when i ask did they trace my money i get "I will have the funds again today using a different bank to see if the payment arrives any faster.
When the second payment arrives, please let me know.
Thank you" so they still don't know where my money goes, and expect that i will kindly inform them if i get double payout, becouse their people are so dumb, that they even can't find where the money goes. I lost my hope, and my bills are still growing. But still happy that some of u got their money, so maybe finally i will recive mine too :(

Incantatious
06-22-2016, 09:42 AM
Got paid today, but there was like £20ish missing from it, eh. Just glad to finally have been paid by them at this point.

gril
06-22-2016, 03:23 PM
Ehhh....i still have no money. 2 days ago they said they will call the bank, yesterday that they will trace my payout, today when i ask did they trace my money i get "I will have the funds again today using a different bank to see if the payment arrives any faster.
When the second payment arrives, please let me know.
Thank you" so they still don't know where my money goes, and expect that i will kindly inform them if i get double payout, becouse their people are so dumb, that they even can't find where the money goes. I lost my hope, and my bills are still growing. But still happy that some of u got their money, so maybe finally i will recive mine too :(

Same here.

Missjayne77
06-22-2016, 03:40 PM
My Sales haven't changed over this week, I'm doing really well. Yay

JessyA
06-22-2016, 04:48 PM
No payment yet, this is beyond embarrassing for them and freakin frustrating for us :( I'm speechless......such a shame, C4S !! Such a shame ! :(

Amedee Vause
06-23-2016, 03:52 AM
I got my money today. Finally. I suggest you all start bugging c4s to introduce payoneer or paxum or whatever to their payout options.

gril
06-23-2016, 04:04 AM
Still no money... Looks like everyone has been paid but me

Sinna (2pee4you)
06-23-2016, 04:54 AM
how to turn off members?

The quickest and best way is to ask support to disable it.

Lillyxxx
06-23-2016, 04:54 AM
Still no money... Looks like everyone has been paid but me
Not the only one :) I am still waiting too :) Sometimes i feel like there is curse on me, like somebody doesn't want me to work this way haha, and i am serious everytime when something like that happend, like delays it hits on me, all the girls from my country that i know, had their payouts like a week ago, everytime when something not working it hits on me, everytime when i worked hard on some clip, it's not selling and then i see my friend uploading something, not putting much effort in it, not even care how it looks, it sells well, when all the girls have the best time on camming, i earn nothing...like wtf. And no, i am not ugly. This is a curse i am sure ;D

Bootsie
06-23-2016, 09:41 AM
My sales this month are fucking amazing, so I can't complain there. I've beat my best month ever, and am on track to make a fair chunk by the end of the month. It feels so, so good to finally have the income matching the effort that I put in.

However...my hits are really weird. I use both the C4S hit counter and GA when I look at my hits, and the #s are different but the pattern is the same. One day is roughly my average daily hits, the next day is less than half that. Over and over, all month. It's really weird. Obviously it doesn't really bug me because my sales are good, but it's just such a bizarre pattern. I've also noticed (from GA and c4s counters) that I am getting more and more hits from my own promo as a % of total hits, so maybe something is going on within the C4S structure that means outside promo is more important? Not sure.

maryjaynexo
06-23-2016, 10:04 AM
Still waiting for mine as well. Hope everyone's pay comes in soon!

Classy_Katy
06-23-2016, 09:37 PM
The pound is now it's lowest since 1985...UK girls it's worth getting paid later now maybe!

I need to get some more clips filmed to make the most of my next cheque.

LiLuHotty
06-24-2016, 01:37 AM
Congrats Eu studios! uk is out , dollar is up

but no money sill..

gril
06-24-2016, 04:51 AM
Finally got my money

Candy_Women
06-24-2016, 07:22 AM
The pound is now it's lowest since 1985...UK girls it's worth getting paid later now maybe!

I need to get some more clips filmed to make the most of my next cheque.

this Brexit

Sinna (2pee4you)
06-24-2016, 09:33 AM
The pound is now it's lowest since 1985...UK girls it's worth getting paid later now maybe!

I need to get some more clips filmed to make the most of my next cheque.

Yes, it's a little unlucky. First no payment, now payment arrived a few days short of a much better exchange rate. Actually, this should just have given UK producers on c4s about 8% more earnings over night. To acquire a pound, you would have had to give $1.49 in exchange yesterday. Today, you just need $1.36 to get a pound. I just don't know how UK producers can handle the porn regulations, but the brexit currently means more money. Experts guess that the pound might fall to $1.25-1.30. Maybe Euro falls below 1.10 again, but I just have a feeling that it won't.

By the way, I got paid twice as well, which is a shame. Now the amount credited will be subtracted from the next payout, which means I won't be able to get the better exchange rate next month and who knows what happens in 2 months. This can be quite an amount.

If you had earned $3000, you got 2013 pound before the brexit (with the exchange rates given above). After brexit, thats 2205 pound. So if you don't get paid out next month (because you earn $3000 again and $3000 - $3000 is 0), after the brexit, because you already got your money before brexit, you get almost 200 pound less than you should have.

This is really mean timing. Best case, payments would have been even 2-3 days later, you could have gotten double payout for the "crash" rate, essentially getting about 385 pound more than you'll get now.

Classy_Katy
06-24-2016, 11:15 AM
I expect the pound will recover shortly...the prime minister will be leaving by October and he has pushed the porn and internet restrictions...this is under the remit of the home secretary who will probably remain in place but without the PM maybe we can see some slackening on the restrictions...we can hope!

LiLuHotty
06-24-2016, 02:38 PM
I got paid twice as well, which is a shame. Now the amount credited will be subtracted from the next payout, which means I won't be able to get the better exchange rate next month and who knows what happens in 2 months. This can be quite an amount. If you had earned $3000, you got 2013 pound before the brexit (with the exchange rates given above). After brexit, thats 2205 pound. So if you don't get paid out next month (because you earn $3000 again and $3000 - $3000 is 0), after the brexit, because you already got your money before brexit, you get almost 200 pound less than you should have.

thats a very strange statement!! if u dont want to exchange now, dont, wait till next month or longer!?!?!?! u ve been payed , twice , what is your problem exactly?

Kayden
06-24-2016, 05:19 PM
^Technically you're right but only if they have kept the double payout in its "original form" (in dollars) but if it was auto-converted in their bank account couple days ago or they cashed it already or whatever, then it means that they have "lost out" on the super low pound.

Ofc it would only be noticeable if they make thousands and as mentioned it could rebound soon.

Personally I feel kinda guilty when I'm happy about things like these, a while ago, at the height of the refugee crisis euro dropped to almost parity with the dollar (more € for the same amount of $) I felt guilty for being happy about it :D

LiLuHotty
06-25-2016, 06:45 AM
^Technically you're right but only if they have kept the double payout in its "original form" (in dollars) but if it was auto-converted in their bank account couple days ago or they cashed it already or whatever, then it means that they have "lost out" on the super low pound. :D

getting payed regularly in USD and not having a separate USD account with USD atm Card - would be even more strange, as normally the Bank exchange rate is much less then what u can get on street at any exchange office,-

Exxxotique
06-27-2016, 01:10 PM
Hi girls,
Is there still anyone who is waiting for the payment or it is just me ? :(

Moz
06-27-2016, 02:21 PM
Hi girls,
Is there still anyone who is waiting for the payment or it is just me ? :(

Nothing yet :( I don't even want to upload videos anymore

maryjaynexo
06-27-2016, 08:02 PM
Still waiting as well :/

LiLuHotty
06-28-2016, 04:32 AM
same here, nothing from new banks...

Lillyxxx
06-28-2016, 07:36 AM
I feel sorry for u girls, i get mine on friday. But now i am really worried, becouse Gia said that i should be paid twice or three times, becouse she sent it to me 3 times my money ( ohh i doubt it, but ok). And i should let her know about it, when the second payment arrives ( haha, ohhh they can't trace that money, that's so sad and i should be the one who told them about my account status). And i have that crazy idea now...what if...i don't get this second payout...but they accuse me of hiding money from them. And i don't get my normal payout from june. This is freaking me off. Really, like now everything can happen. I just write about it to Gia, that still i don't see any money, and that i don't wanna be accused about anything so she should check if the money returns to them ot whatever...and she as always said that i should wait bla bla bla and be honest bla bla bla. And nothing about my normal payout, what they gonna do know, if they don't know who got 2 payouts or more.

Exxxotique
06-28-2016, 09:04 AM
Gia was giving me same answer for 2 weeks that I should wait bla bla bla.and now she is ignoring my emails! This is frustrating,I feel like begging my money from them.did any of you tried to email Neil?or at least are you getting any accurate answer from Gia?

Exxxotique
06-28-2016, 11:52 AM
I emailed Neil and that's what he answered... "I think the issue is the bank .... We keep asking for a list and they keep sending us a list of all payments sent. This is not helping because we want the rejected wires list and a list of confirmed wires "

Sinna (2pee4you)
06-29-2016, 04:43 AM
thats a very strange statement!! if u dont want to exchange now, dont, wait till next month or longer!?!?!?! u ve been payed , twice , what is your problem exactly?

I sit in Europe and get the money wired into my account. There is no option to exchange or not exchange, it's being exchanged and credited automatically for the current exchange rate. Fee subtractions are also automatic.

I wonder how the "small" clipsites keep finding ways to wire for free from basically the same location as c4s (Florida) and offer payouts at much lower rates, while c4s changes to a bank with even higher transaction fees (intermediary). C4s should have the transaction volume to choose a partner, even get offers that are better than what the small sites get.

My problem exactly is that I have been paid twice. I would have rather been paid once and then again at the regular time next month, when I get 8% more money because of the brexit. I think I explained it, so it's understandable. On top of that I paid $92 in fees twice. After seeing the first wire from the "new" bank, I would have changed to cheque instantly. Now I already paid another round of fees for next month without having a choice.

Bootsie
06-29-2016, 07:00 AM
This wire shit is completely insane. C4S's new bank has a lot to fucking answer for. C4S itself has a lot to answer for. They can't keep offering shitty payout options and assuming studios will just suck it because they are the big fish in the pond. Hopefully the increased competition from other sites will spook them a bit, but Neil is so assured of his own damn genius that I doubt anything short of a full-scale site crash would persuade him to listen to anyone but himself.

I am perilously close to my "ridiculous high goal" this month...I think I'll double up releases tomorrow for one last shot at it. It's so close I couldn't bear to not make it!

LiLuHotty
06-29-2016, 07:51 AM
I sit in Europe and get the money wired into my account. There is no option to exchange or not exchange, it's being exchanged and credited automatically for the current exchange rate. Fee subtractions are also automatic.

I wonder how the "small" clipsites keep finding ways to wire for free from basically the same location as c4s (Florida) and offer payouts at much lower rates, while c4s changes to a bank with even higher transaction fees (intermediary). C4s should have the transaction volume to choose a partner, even get offers that are better than what the small sites get.

My problem exactly is that I have been paid twice. I would have rather been paid once and then again at the regular time next month, when I get 8% more money because of the brexit. I think I explained it, so it's understandable. On top of that I paid $92 in fees twice. After seeing the first wire from the "new" bank, I would have changed to cheque instantly. Now I already paid another round of fees for next month without having a choice.



I sit in Europe and get the money wired into my account. There is no option to exchange or not exchange, it's being exchanged and credited automatically for the current exchange rate. Fee subtractions are also automatic.

i am also from EU , and u telling me that there are no banks in your country that offer Multi currency accounts? i can store on my accounts in 3 different banks any currency i want. i have EUR account with EUR card, i have USD account with USD card. if u dont know something it does not mean its not exists. just call your bank and ask about it, if it does not offer it (what i ll never believe in) call other banks. Also there should be ATM in your country that has USD as well (call all banks and ask about it). thats what i do, i take USD out of atm and exchange it to a better rate at any local exchange office! But also if u store USD on your USD account, u can always call bank and ask for a better exchange rate, there will be a minimum amount of USD u have to have on your account (locally its from 4000 to 7000 depending on a bank), they will connect you to their broker and u ll be offered a better rate. Sometimes its even better then what i can get on street. Of course, in that case, depending on your earnings u ll have to save for a few months.... its not very useful option for most, especially if its your only income.... but still there is that option (also bank exchange rate depends not just on market prices, but also depends on what currency they need right now for their own operations)



My problem exactly is that I have been paid twice. I would have rather been paid once and then again at the regular time next month, when I get 8% more money because of the brexit. I think I explained it, so it's understandable. On top of that I paid $92 in fees twice. After seeing the first wire from the "new" bank, I would have changed to cheque instantly. Now I already paid another round of fees for next month without having a choice.

some people here did not get payed at all - so i am sorry that i dont sorry for your lose! i wonder what else c4s had to do for you? predict the elections? before u change to check think twice, as its not free. mostly likely bank will charge you a standard fee for a check processing + % from total amount, plus locally my banks told me it may take for up to 2 months for me to receive the funds, locally its called incasso operation, not sure if its international word for it! plus u ll have to wait till check will arrive possible 1-3 weeks, so for me its not even an option. there could be exchange services that will pay by that check, but i am not sure and they for sure will take %% as well


I wonder how the "small" clipsites keep finding ways to wire for free from basically the same location as c4s (Florida) and offer payouts at much lower rates, while c4s changes to a bank with even higher transaction fees (intermediary). C4s should have the transaction volume to choose a partner, even get offers that are better than what the small sites get.

so now you will teach c4s how to do business? what bank they should work with? what online payment processing service they should use? what else? the wire fee its not what c4s makes $$ on, its a bank fee for the wire and its different from bank to bank!
Now who told u that the transaction fee is higher? i dont think that c4s told anything about it, the only thing i have heard that they will refund 45$ fee .... If you ve been charged by your bank some $$, u have to ask them why.... there could be several reasons. 1. there could be commission for incoming usd on your account. 2. bank can charge you a fee for the USD exchange to your account. 3. as c4s changed the bank, that wire could change its way and use different correspondent banks... and they could have their own fee. Need to know what is the problem exactly and tell c4s about it, but in any case C4S is not responsible for it, but they may reconsider about that bank.

i ve been with c4s like 10 years, and its a 1st issue i have.... its inconvenient a little - yes. but its not the end of the world. but also i would like something like payoneer to be used as payout option.

Lillyxxx
06-29-2016, 09:08 AM
Just like LilluHotty i have eu and usd account connected with my normal account, and i have cards to them also ( as u know i live in Europe) so Sinna it's hard to believe for me, that banks in your country don't have that option...

boyru
06-29-2016, 09:41 AM
we (russians) can open account in more than 10 currencies and accept transfers without forced exchange to national currency.

Kayden
06-29-2016, 10:40 AM
Way to blow a little tidbit out of proportion... I don't think that Sinna meant that losing out on euro taking a hit from Brexit is such a huge deal, just a little side observation y'know?

I don't think anyone ever said that they can't receive $ transfers and keep them as $ in their account - I for one am pretty sure that I can have a dual currency account, except why would I want that? I want the dollars transferred to my account to be auto-converted to euros. Also I'm pretty sure that my bank's exchange rate is fairer than offices "on the street" could ever be.

Lillyxxx
06-29-2016, 11:21 AM
I don't think anyone ever said that they can't receive $ transfers and keep them as $ in their account - I for one am pretty sure that I can have a dual currency account, except why would I want that? I want the dollars transferred to my account to be auto-converted to euros. Also I'm pretty sure that my bank's exchange rate is fairer than offices "on the street" could ever be.

I don't now where u live, but in my coutry exchange rate on my normal account is much worse than any office on the street. And i personally exchange $ using internet exchange office, we have couple of them, and the exchange rate is ALWAYS higher than in my bank. I just transfer my dollars to them and in half hour i have my money back, they landed on my normal account, in my currency.

Kayden
06-29-2016, 03:04 PM
I don't now where u live, but in my coutry exchange rate on my normal account is much worse than any office on the street. And i personally exchange $ using internet exchange office, we have couple of them, and the exchange rate is ALWAYS higher than in my bank. I just transfer my dollars to them and in half hour i have my money back, they landed on my normal account, in my currency.

Indeed you are right (at least partially)

I just did some research.

One of the results (an exchange bureau type of thing) claiming to have the most favorable rates etc. had a table comparing various banks and themselves - least favorable in red most favorable in green.

They had the most favorable for selling USD (you give €, they give you $) but another bank actually had the most favorable buy rate (you give $, they give € which is what I need) I guess it's nice that they are so transparent, I would imagine that they would want to hide another place having better rate but they didn't hide it.

My bank... had the worst rate for both buy and sell. Maybe in the long run I just need to switch banks.

The difference in practice: just as an example the last transfer I received from Payoneer is $261.94 with the best rate (as that comparison table showed right now) this is €232.07, with the worst rate (which happens to be my bank, lol) this is €227.97 ...A difference of approx. €4, this month hasn't been too great for me I only just broke $1k (and I'm afraid this trend could continue further in the summer for me but that's totally offtopic) so at least for this month I can roughly multiply those €4 by 4 which comes out to approx. €16 that I would not lose if I used that other bank if that other bank has that favorable buy $ rate all the time.

I guess in the long run I could consider switching banks.

But personally I'm also willing to pay for convenience, for example, I receive my C4S money through Payoneer on a weekly basis, I end up paying quite a bit for it - there is a middle man who sends money to my Payoneer but he takes 5% from my net earnings (after C4S have taken their cut), if I'm having a good month (for me this is $1.5k) I end up paying him approx. $75 (1500 * 0.05) just to have my money weekly, during this wire fiasco I was also "protected" from the delays - he is the one who's going to be paid late not me, ofc once you count PY fees ($5 per weekly transfer) it comes out to almost $100 just to be paid.

I know that ultimately I would want to stop using his services but I also like the convenience. Personally I can't imagine investing the time to get to that one ATM that I've seen where you can withdraw $, then going to one of those exchange offices, then having cash to take to cash depositing ATM... Ofc this is different when your earnings reach a certain threshold - €16 on $1000 (for example) is not such a big deal but €64 on $4000 could be worth the extra time investment.

boyru
06-30-2016, 12:49 AM
What do You think about future payout (june earnings)? Can we have similar situation?

gril
06-30-2016, 02:50 AM
What do You think about future payout (june earnings)? Can we have similar situation?

I won't have June payout because I got paid twice this month

JessyA
06-30-2016, 08:37 AM
I just got back from vacay and I was absolutely sure that I've got the wire til now, I should have. But, fml, still nothing !! WTF !! :( This is getting ridiculous and I've been very calm and confident so far, thinking that this will be resolved soon, but I don't feel calm nor confident, anymore. Seriously C4S, this is getting ridiculous, it is ridiculous ! It's been over 3 weeks since I should have been paid. How much longer do we have to wait? Another 3 weeks? 3 months ? Wtf, get your ducks in line, I don't know what you're doing to solve this but it seems you need to try harder. Pffffbt, so pissed :( :(

gril
07-01-2016, 02:24 PM
C4S is broken. Don't add clips.

Sexyven
07-01-2016, 02:31 PM
C4S is broken. Don't add clips.

Hi everyone, sorry about my English.

Please excuse me, what do you mean with "broken"?

Do you mean C4S in bankruptcy or a technical issue with their page?

In what are you based to say that?

EDIT: I refuse to believe that, they have paid to another international producers, why they beeing in bankruptcy pay USA producers and most of international producers, we have still no payment here but they have given answers to our messages and even offered to us another way of payment, but we have prefered to wait because we prefer wire transfer, maybe we are naive but we don't think they are in bankruptcy.

Thanks in advance.