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Jaana
08-27-2012, 02:47 AM
it varies person to person and also matters if you already have an existing fan or audience you can promote to... but everything helps. People shouldn't expect to post a job or video and just wait for the money to pour in. Like most things it does take work and energy.
The one suggestion we make is to spend time developing your twitter following. Even if you use other sites or services outside of ELM the one thing that can be constant are your fans. While quantity is nice, quality is just as important. The sellers who do well on our site most (if not all the time) are really good about interacting with people through twitter. It takes time to develop, but from what we observe it's worth the time investment.I'm awful with twitter. I'm cluelesss as to how to gain followers.
nicolot
08-27-2012, 03:23 AM
lol me too! I look at it and think err, what to to with it? hashmarks and @people, I still don't get it properly.
I gain most followers when posting vids that get retweeted.
I also get offers from people saying 5000 followers in two weeks with x amount of no follows and so on, but what for?
I think it is best to gain followers slowly and would rather have 5 that care than 5000 that sit there.
Maybe one day it will all make sense
benic
08-28-2012, 05:13 PM
lol me too! I look at it and think err, what to to with it? hashmarks and @people, I still don't get it properly.
I gain most followers when posting vids that get retweeted.
I also get offers from people saying 5000 followers in two weeks with x amount of no follows and so on, but what for?
I think it is best to gain followers slowly and would rather have 5 that care than 5000 that sit there.
Maybe one day it will all make sense
Sending out pics and vids definitely is a good way to get followers. It's also good to follow up and say hi to new followers.
I would avoid the spammers who try to sell you services that promise to get you followers. The quality of those followers are really bad (and in some cases they are fake users).
It's a good strategy to take things slow on twitter, let people get to know you, and get used to interacting with people.
Found this article that might be of help... a beginners guide to Twitter:
http://mashable.com/2012/06/05/twitter-for-beginners/
DiamondCupcakes
09-13-2012, 06:33 PM
There is something about ELM that really bugs me an deters me from adding more content. If I upload something and the pic I need to add is too small it refreshes the page and resets EVERYTHING on the page. So now not only do I need to resize my pic, I need to retype a description, retype keywords, reupload the file and enter other info all over again. Sometime my video file is ok but it will still make me reupload it just because the picture or gif was the wrong size and this takes up a lot of my time. I end up getting frustrated and say forget it.
Also if you are looking to add yourself as a provider for some requests, you hit the "add me" button, it refreshes the page and sends you to the first page. It would be nice if yu can add it and still stay on that page so you dont have to go back to page 2 or 3. Sometimes I want to add myself to a couple of projects on one page.
ELM is an amazing site, there are just a few little annoying quirks about it. Definitely not deal breaker though.
One more question, is there a higher percentage if you reach silver or gold status as a seller? I know there is for bronze but didnt see anything about incentives for any other levels. Thanks =)
benic
09-14-2012, 01:40 AM
There is something about ELM that really bugs me an deters me from adding more content. If I upload something and the pic I need to add is too small it refreshes the page and resets EVERYTHING on the page. So now not only do I need to resize my pic, I need to retype a description, retype keywords, reupload the file and enter other info all over again. Sometime my video file is ok but it will still make me reupload it just because the picture or gif was the wrong size and this takes up a lot of my time. I end up getting frustrated and say forget it.
Also if you are looking to add yourself as a provider for some requests, you hit the "add me" button, it refreshes the page and sends you to the first page. It would be nice if yu can add it and still stay on that page so you dont have to go back to page 2 or 3. Sometimes I want to add myself to a couple of projects on one page.
ELM is an amazing site, there are just a few little annoying quirks about it. Definitely not deal breaker though.
One more question, is there a higher percentage if you reach silver or gold status as a seller? I know there is for bronze but didnt see anything about incentives for any other levels. Thanks =)
Great feedback! Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
So we've put in some fixes...
Now if there's an error when the page refreshes it will save your the data you entered so you don't have to enter it again. Unfortunately, due to so a system limitation you might still need to re-upload your video.
Also now when you choose to accept a request when the page refreshes it will stay on the page you were on instead of taking you to the first page (totally understand how that would be annoying).
And to answer your question about higher percentage for silver or gold... we don't have anything right now. But we are working on something for the future so stay tuned.
Let us know if you have any other suggestions. And as always feel free to email us directly at
[email protected]
MissSeraphim
09-19-2012, 07:01 PM
I am LOVING ELM. It's one of the 3 new sites I'm trying out, and so far my favorite. The set up is super user friendly and the members have been great. Even when they think my prices are too high they've been very respectful and even black and white saying I have a right to set my prices how I want to. QUALITY!
benic
09-20-2012, 05:40 PM
I am LOVING ELM. It's one of the 3 new sites I'm trying out, and so far my favorite. The set up is super user friendly and the members have been great. Even when they think my prices are too high they've been very respectful and even black and white saying I have a right to set my prices how I want to. QUALITY!
Thanks so much for the kind words. Glad to hear ELM is working out well for you. If you have any areas where we can improve, please let us know :)
MissSeraphim
09-21-2012, 12:15 AM
Question...if I send out links to promote a certain job, or a sale, do I get the referral if they sign up through it?
benic
09-22-2012, 12:06 AM
Question...if I send out links to promote a certain job, or a sale, do I get the referral if they sign up through it?
Yes, you will get the referral. However, you'll only get the referral if you include your referral id in the link. So for example if I wanted to send out my profile to a user and wanted to include my referral code I would use this as the link:
http://www.extralunchmoney.com/user/benic?ref_user=benic
All you need to do is add "?ref_user=benic" (where "benic" would be your username) to the end of any link that you send out. As long as that code is there you'll get credited for the referral if they sign up. Here's more information on the referral code (http://extralunchmoney.com/wiki/index.php/Referral_Incentive_Program#How_to_Get_Started).
volatileghost
09-30-2012, 07:47 PM
Is there any way for the site to generate the correct link for us to just copy/paste to send out to make it so that our referral code is easier to send out?
Also, what exactly is the incentive for reaching Bronze seller status? I wasn't able to find anything on that.
I will say, I've been on the site for a couple weeks and I've sold custom videos as well as one I put on there previously. I love the escrow system and I love the idea of the requests page because it generates more visitors to my page and I've gotten custom work this way. So far, I love the site, it's definitely working out for me, and yes, I have done fetish videos for this site. :)
volatileghost
09-30-2012, 10:37 PM
ALSO:: My only suggestion is that if you've clicked that you CAN do a certain request, through requests, at least show us that users last few requests in a side-bar or something when they message you saying blah blah this this etc etc about their request, cuz that saves me having to go search for them again, unless there's another way I'm missing of finding what videos I've said I can do??
benic
10-01-2012, 01:23 AM
Is there any way for the site to generate the correct link for us to just copy/paste to send out to make it so that our referral code is easier to send out?
Also, what exactly is the incentive for reaching Bronze seller status? I wasn't able to find anything on that.
I will say, I've been on the site for a couple weeks and I've sold custom videos as well as one I put on there previously. I love the escrow system and I love the idea of the requests page because it generates more visitors to my page and I've gotten custom work this way. So far, I love the site, it's definitely working out for me, and yes, I have done fetish videos for this site. :)
Unfortunately, right now we don't have an auto-generate feature for the referral code. The best way right now is to save the ?ref_user=[username] (ie ?ref_user=benic) in like a text document and anytime you share your link. It's not as convenient, but the good thing is you can include the referral code on any link on ELM.
Right now there is no sales incentives for reaching Bronze status. For now it just shows buyers and other users that you have been participating in the site and have been doing well.
Thank you for the kind words too!
benic
10-01-2012, 01:24 AM
ALSO:: My only suggestion is that if you've clicked that you CAN do a certain request, through requests, at least show us that users last few requests in a side-bar or something when they message you saying blah blah this this etc etc about their request, cuz that saves me having to go search for them again, unless there's another way I'm missing of finding what videos I've said I can do??
This is a great idea. We will definitely look into implementing something like this. I could see referencing their initial request could be time consuming. Thanks for the feedback!
volatileghost
10-01-2012, 01:32 AM
Glad to see feedback acknowledged and appreciated :)
goddesstracey
10-03-2012, 07:31 AM
ELM custom video question:
I've made some custom videos that are pretty generic. Can I post them for sale as a download also? I wanted to see what others thoughts were on the matter. Thanks.
Vlodina
10-03-2012, 07:47 AM
Hell yeah, if they were meant to be exclusive then the guys should have paid a hell of a lot more. Post it for sale anywhere you use to sell clips.
benic
10-04-2012, 02:23 PM
ELM custom video question:
I've made some custom videos that are pretty generic. Can I post them for sale as a download also? I wanted to see what others thoughts were on the matter. Thanks.
Posting custom videos you've already made is not a problem... unless for some reason the buyer paid you for an exclusive video (which hopefully they paid more for).
xoAly
10-13-2012, 11:48 AM
I do! Its a pretty good site. When I started in May it wasn't a super popular site but i feel like it has definitely grown since then. I haven't been making a whole lot of new content like at all so I am mostly just doing requests that are fairly simple and easy since I'm busy with school and just not ever in the mood to make vids
As far as withdrawing the money you've made they have suspended dwolla recently and they dont do alert pay anymore all they offer is payoneer which I've never used and i tried making a account last night and I gave up, just don't like payoneer
You can also sell actual items (socks, panties, ect)
DiamondCupcakes
10-25-2012, 09:56 AM
Thanks Benic your the bestest! Do you have a gf? ;-) lol
Oh also is there a way to see what requests a user has posted? I sometimes say I would like to do a request and people will message me back with something vague like "Thanks for wanting to do my request. Please tell me more about what you will do." An I'm like crap! I don't remember what this guys specifically requested. It would be nice to have a tab on their profile to view their requests if there isnt already a way =)
benic
10-26-2012, 12:19 AM
Thanks Benic your the bestest! Do you have a gf? ;-) lol
Oh also is there a way to see what requests a user has posted? I sometimes say I would like to do a request and people will message me back with something vague like "Thanks for wanting to do my request. Please tell me more about what you will do." An I'm like crap! I don't remember what this guys specifically requested. It would be nice to have a tab on their profile to view their requests if there isnt already a way =)
Haha, actually I do have a girlfriend :)
It's a great idea. We actually have it on our list and will be working on it soon. We know keeping track of people's requests is not easy with the current site. We definitely will work on improving it.
DiamondCupcakes
10-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Darn =(
And ok thanks! Please keep us updated if that change is made. It would be a life saver! lol
CarmenF
10-26-2012, 06:10 PM
How nice to see the site owner replying here :)!!
I'm asking: I have tons of premade, watermarked videos. It would be nice to place some on sale on your site, I am member already but didn't do approval yet.
They have another site's watermark. Can I leave it? Do i have to remove it?
BlkSharpie
10-26-2012, 09:31 PM
Okay!! I joined ELM and organizing my clips to get them ready and up for sale... Now, I have quite a few clips that have music to it, and well...if I remove the music then it'll look stoopit lol cause I was either moving to the music or something. So Im curious to know, is it a bad thing / not suggested that I post up the clips with music on them? Its a lot of the vids, and pretty much all of my better vids, so it would suck if I cant upload them here.
Mistress Anika
10-27-2012, 08:46 AM
I don't recommend adding watermarks for other sites. Like posting your (Check out C4S for more clips) or (abcClips.com/CarmenF) is a little tacky, But if your watermark is CarmenFC.com then your good to go.
ELM is very forgiving, They understand we work on may sites and allow us to post links to any sites we work on. But on the same note doing try to steal their customers away to somewhere else.
Jaana
10-27-2012, 08:53 AM
I don't recommend adding watermarks for other sites. Like posting your (Check out C4S for more clips) or (abcClips.com/CarmenF) is a little tacky, But if your watermark is CarmenFC.com then your good to go.
ELM is very forgiving, They understand we work on may sites and allow us to post links to any sites we work on. But on the same note doing try to steal their customers away to somewhere else.It does suck that i have to make two versions of every video if I wanna put stuff from MGF that's watermarked on ELM. :/ but I completely understand why they don't like us using the same watermark.
Mistress Anika
10-27-2012, 01:46 PM
It does suck that i have to make two versions of every video if I wanna put stuff from MGF that's watermarked on ELM. :/ but I completely understand why they don't like us using the same watermark.
I completely feel you on this one. Each of my clips are saved into 3 sizes: Tiny streaming version with MGF completely with special watermark, HD & SD versions with my personal site logo. ELM gets a HD version unless it goes over the 500mb limit, C4S gets HD&SD ... I'm debating adding different file formats but converting is a pain :P
Good luck
benic
10-27-2012, 11:30 PM
How nice to see the site owner replying here :)!!
I'm asking: I have tons of premade, watermarked videos. It would be nice to place some on sale on your site, I am member already but didn't do approval yet.
They have another site's watermark. Can I leave it? Do i have to remove it?
It's up to you how you want to watermark your videos. While we would be flattered if you watermarked your videos with our site names, it's probably better if you do watermark to watermark them with your own website or twitter name... this way if you choose not to use our site in the future customers can still find you.
So long answer short... you can leave the watermark.
benic
10-28-2012, 12:03 AM
Okay!! I joined ELM and organizing my clips to get them ready and up for sale... Now, I have quite a few clips that have music to it, and well...if I remove the music then it'll look stoopit lol cause I was either moving to the music or something. So Im curious to know, is it a bad thing / not suggested that I post up the clips with music on them? Its a lot of the vids, and pretty much all of my better vids, so it would suck if I cant upload them here.
We don't have any issues with music in clips you already have made. Not a problem.
BlkSharpie
10-28-2012, 12:35 AM
Thank you so much!!!! Really appreciate you getting back to me on that Benic...
Okay, I will be loading up my first vids soon and hoping for the best..wish me luck! ;D
CarmenF
11-05-2012, 02:51 PM
Well if I had my name like extralunchmoney.com/carmen it would still be a watermark. I'll talk to my bf and if he is ok with it I will try selling something. thanks a lot!!!
Jaana
11-08-2012, 04:03 AM
i cashed out to my Payoneer card about an hour ago and I still haven't gotten an e-mail from Payoneer saying there's a load. How long does it usually take before I get a confirmation?
benic
11-09-2012, 04:22 PM
Thank you so much!!!! Really appreciate you getting back to me on that Benic...
Okay, I will be loading up my first vids soon and hoping for the best..wish me luck! ;D
Anytime! Good luck!
@CarmenF
The ELM link as your watermark is a good idea. Some people like to have their own domain name or website as the watermark. This is good in the case you choose not to use ELM in the future people have a way of finding their way to your website. So for a long term strategy it's probably better to put in your own link if you have one rather than use ours (as much as I would like you to!)
@Jaana
Unfortunately , I don't know how long the average load time is for Payoneer. You probably should contact Payoneer's customer support (http://www.payoneer.com/contactUs.aspx). They have a voice line and I've called it before so if you want a faster response I would call them. If you find out the answer and could let me know I would definitely appreciate it.
CurvyWinona
11-15-2012, 10:58 PM
Hi, will you be adding other payment opinion anytime soon? I do use payoneer but I hardly make any on ELM lately and I wanna withdraw merely $10.. payoneer will take $5 out of that for load. =/ haha.
I will definitely make more videos and put on ELM soon! :)
ThatOneGirl
11-15-2012, 11:22 PM
So I'm reinstating my ELM account. I had it deleted a couple of months or so ago, because I hit a super low "I hate this fucking job" point. Turns out I don't really hate it, I just needed a good break. So I emailed them today to ask if I could have it reinstated or if I'd have to register with a new name (obviously my model name is preferable, but I would have been willing to change). They've already responded, I confirmed, and it just got reactivated.
I love the folks who run this site, so much. I wish I could get that kind of customer service everywhere!
Just thought I'd share. I'm happy. ^-^
benic
11-16-2012, 01:58 AM
Hi, will you be adding other payment opinion anytime soon? I do use payoneer but I hardly make any on ELM lately and I wanna withdraw merely $10.. payoneer will take $5 out of that for load. =/ haha.
I will definitely make more videos and put on ELM soon! :)
Keep an eye out in the next month or two. We are working on something, but don't want to make any promises yet. But we know for some Payoneer is not the best option for them.
@thatonegirl
Thanks for the kind words. We do what we can. While we would love to promise we can always make everyone happy...unfortunately we can't...but it does bring a smile to our faces when we can. Thanks for using and ELM and welcome back!
ThatOneGirl
11-19-2012, 08:41 AM
What happened with Dwolla? I was sad to see that payment option is no longer there, and it's just Payoneer for now.
benic
11-19-2012, 11:22 PM
What happened with Dwolla? I was sad to see that payment option is no longer there, and it's just Payoneer for now.
Like some mainstream payment sites one day out of the blue they decide they dont want you using them since you are adult so they cut you off. If we had it our way we would love to keep using them, but it wasn't really our decision. But we've moved on. For models who are using it personally you guys should be OK (just be careful)...
The good news is we just announced how we are offering check payment, bank transfer, and wire transfer, in addition to Payoneer in the upcoming few weeks. You can read more about it here:
http://extralunchmoney.com/blog/new-elm-seller-payout-options-and-changes-coming-soon/
If you have questions or concerns let us know. We know some of you haven't been the most fond of Payoneer....
Jaana
11-20-2012, 02:15 AM
So, would I be able to adjust my minimum payout once I've set it? Like, if I wanted to wait until i have 1000 credits, then decided I'd rather just have the mony out at 200?
Also, if I set up direct deposit, will I be able to switch back to Payoneer if I wanted to one week, and hen back to my direct deposit?
benic
11-21-2012, 02:41 AM
So, would I be able to adjust my minimum payout once I've set it? Like, if I wanted to wait until i have 1000 credits, then decided I'd rather just have the mony out at 200?
Also, if I set up direct deposit, will I be able to switch back to Payoneer if I wanted to one week, and hen back to my direct deposit?
Yeah, exactly. The way it's set though is if you change the minimum payout it won't take effect until the next payout period. But you will be able to change the minimum amount and also the payout method. So you would be able to switch from Payoneer to Bank Deposit and vice versa. The thing to remember though is any changes won't take effect until the next pay period.
Jaana
11-21-2012, 02:45 AM
Yeah, exactly. The way it's set though is if you change the minimum payout it won't take effect until the next payout period. But you will be able to change the minimum amount and also the payout method. So you would be able to switch from Payoneer to Bank Deposit and vice versa. The thing to remember though is any changes won't take effect until the next pay period.Great! thank you. I'm really considering spending less time on MGF and more time on ELM, especially now that you'll be doing bank transfer. I just wish i could get the same cut with you guys, but I understand that you guys probably have more expenses to cover.
CreamintheCupcake
11-21-2012, 09:59 PM
So can you sell a custom clip on another site, such as C4S? And after the requester purchases it, can it be sold like a normal clip to other people? I couldn't find these answers.
And if changes don't happen until the next pay period, you couldn't sign up under payoneer and wait for the bank transfer to be available then switch the payout to bank transfers? The first payout would have to be under payoneer?
benic
11-22-2012, 12:16 AM
Great! thank you. I'm really considering spending less time on MGF and more time on ELM, especially now that you'll be doing bank transfer. I just wish i could get the same cut with you guys, but I understand that you guys probably have more expenses to cover.
Anytime, glad I was able to help. If things are going well for you on MGF you should stay there. I know MGF has camming and other things which we don't have. As much as we would love it for you to focus only ELM we understand you got to go with what works out for you best. It's a business after all, right?
benic
11-22-2012, 12:19 AM
So can you sell a custom clip on another site, such as C4S? And after the requester purchases it, can it be sold like a normal clip to other people? I couldn't find these answers.
And if changes don't happen until the next pay period, you couldn't sign up under payoneer and wait for the bank transfer to be available then switch the payout to bank transfers? The first payout would have to be under payoneer?
Yes, you could sell it wherever you would like. The content you make is always yours. Unless you make something exclusive with a buyer and have an understanding that you won't re-sell it anywhere else then it's up to you where and how you sell your content. Many sellers make a custom video for a buyer and then later upload that as a download now product and sell it.
In the case that you mention you would have to be paid out under Payoneer, but the changes you made to be paid out via bank transfer would take place the following week.
CreamintheCupcake
11-22-2012, 01:06 PM
Thanks! Is there a set date for when bank transfers will be available? I'm really excited to start but I don't like how payoneer works.
benic
11-24-2012, 01:30 PM
Thanks! Is there a set date for when bank transfers will be available? I'm really excited to start but I don't like how payoneer works.
We're hoping in 2 to 3 weeks time. We're still waiting on some approvals for things and testing out things. Once that is all squared away we should be good to go. We will send out a message to all sellers once this happens.
CreamintheCupcake
11-24-2012, 02:26 PM
We're hoping in 2 to 3 weeks time. We're still waiting on some approvals for things and testing out things. Once that is all squared away we should be good to go. We will send out a message to all sellers once this happens.
I am so excited! You have no idea, thank you!
Nissim-Payoneer
11-25-2012, 09:34 AM
Hi Guys,
I'm sorry to hear that some of you aren't happy with Payoneer. If you have any questions, or issues that I can help resolve, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Also, please note that we do also offer our Global Bank Transfer Service via ELM, which allows you to get paid via US ACH, Local Bank Transfer or Wire Transfer with Payoneer.
With this service, payments start as low as $2.99 per payment. We offer local transfers to over 50 countries; which means that you're actually receiving the transfer from a local bank in your country, in your local currency. For the remaining 150+ countries we offer SWIFT.
You can read about that service here: http://blog.payoneer.com/lower-fees-for-payoneers-global-bank-transfer-gbt-service/. If you already have a Payoneer card and would like to switch to bank transfers, you can contact our customer support department, or send me a PM, and I'll assist in getting you set up.
The Payoneer card is an excellent payment solution, allowing you to receive cash in hand literally within minutes of getting paid. Of course, we do realize that no single payment method is best for everyone, and it's therefore our goal to provide you with as many options as possible.
Let me know if you have any questions.
benic
11-25-2012, 02:56 PM
Hi Guys,
I'm sorry to hear that some of you aren't happy with Payoneer. If you have any questions, or issues that I can help resolve, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Also, please note that we do also offer our Global Bank Transfer Service via ELM, which allows you to get paid via US ACH, Local Bank Transfer or Wire Transfer with Payoneer.
With this service, payments start as low as $2.99 per payment. We offer local transfers to over 50 countries; which means that you're actually receiving the transfer from a local bank in your country, in your local currency. For the remaining 150+ countries we offer SWIFT.
You can read about that service here: http://blog.payoneer.com/lower-fees-for-payoneers-global-bank-transfer-gbt-service/. If you already have a Payoneer card and would like to switch to bank transfers, you can contact our customer support department, or send me a PM, and I'll assist in getting you set up.
The Payoneer card is an excellent payment solution, allowing you to receive cash in hand literally within minutes of getting paid. Of course, we do realize that no single payment method is best for everyone, and it's therefore our goal to provide you with as many options as possible.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for the info Nissim, If you could assist any of our sellers on transferring their accounts from the debit card to bank transfer that would be great...
I'll add that if sellers are US based there is a difference between Global Bank Transfer and ACH Bank Transfer... We've had users report to us that when they try to sign up for Global Bank Transfer the United States is not an option for them to select... and it wasn't until later we learned there is a different system to do ACH bank transfer. So to all who want to continue using Payoneer keep that mind.
Nissim-Payoneer
11-25-2012, 03:01 PM
Thanks for the info Nissim, If you could assist any of our sellers on transferring their accounts from the debit card to bank transfer that would be great...
I'll add that if sellers are US based there is a difference between Global Bank Transfer and ACH Bank Transfer... We've had users report to us that when they try to sign up for Global Bank Transfer the United States is not an option for them to select... and it wasn't until later we learned there is a different system to do ACH bank transfer. So to all who want to continue using Payoneer keep that mind.
Thanks; I'd be more than happy to assist anyone in making the switch. Simply PM me here or e-mail me.
You're correct that local/wire transfers and US ACH is a different system. "Global Bank Transfer Service" is simply a term we use to encompass all three service. "Behind the scenes" the company needs to enable both local/wire transfers and US ACH, however once enabled (which I see they both are now) the member should be able to sign up for US as a country for bank transfer as well.
The cost for ACH is actually very appealing, and an excellent payment option for US residents. You can receive your payments for only $3 per payment, with no added cost or maintenance fee. There is also a one-time set up fee of $5 (which is of course charged only once for the lifetime of the account).
CarmenF
11-26-2012, 04:59 AM
Started verification process. Watermarking videos. If bf is ok with it Iwill start selling :D
He is worried that guys can download stuff but I watermark it, plus guys can download even without permission..