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Mistress Anika
02-18-2013, 12:41 PM
Just thought I'd chime in to say that I'm in love with ELM. I updated my profile and put up one kind of crappy video (it's pretty hot but I didn't yet know what I was doing with my camera settings), and I've been getting tons of hits from people who like my look and want me to do custom work for them. So far I'm charging a credit-per-minute rate that's comparable to what I'd be getting for a cam show on SM, and it's so much more fun to work with a practically guaranteed sale than it is to sit and hope it's not going to be a slow day on SM. I don't know if things will keep up like this, but I'm having fun and it looks like I'll be making money. I'm thinking I might move more of my business over to ELM, maybe start offering Skype shows.

Wait are you charging a 1c/min for custom clips? Or 1c/min for pre-made content?

I'm glad your so happy with ELM, its a wonderful site but please keep in mind that you should be charging more for custom content. Not trying to tell you how to run your business but custom content takes more time to create, edit, upload ect than popping on your cam and doing a camshow on SM.

Jaana
02-18-2013, 12:43 PM
Wait are you charging a 1c/min for custom clips? Or 1c/min for pre-made content?

I'm glad your so happy with ELM, its a wonderful site but please keep in mind that you should be charging more for custom content. Not trying to tell you how to run your business but custom content takes more time to create, edit, upload ect than popping on your cam and doing a camshow on SM.This.

I charge $5-$10 per minute for custom content and ELM guys seem to be less and less willing to pay that. it wasn't an issue when i first joined. 'm getting pretty frustrated with guys asking for really specific stuff and then telling me $75 is "waaaaaaayyy too expensive".

BrightAndClaire
02-18-2013, 02:47 PM
Nononono, I didn't mean I charge "A credit per minute." I meant I charge a credit per minute rate comparable to what I'd make for a cam show of a similar duration, which is multiple credits per minute of content. I will probably charge more in the future but I'm aware that my ability to create videos of high quality is limited right now.

BrightAndClaire
02-18-2013, 02:58 PM
PS: I am sure I'm not charging enough, but I've been at this camming thing for just a few weeks. I look over what various people are charging for their content, often very low numbers, and I try to start of with a compromise, something that I feel would still be worth my time but not so high that I think someone skimming over the site would think I was too expensive. Whatever art there is to setting prices beyond that, I don't know yet, and that's why I'm here on StripperWeb trying to figure things out. I appreciate feedback, but what I really need is some hardcore mentoring or some more experience under my belt.

I also find camming to be WAY more personally stressful than making clips, even factoring in the time I spend editing. My cam room is chilly and dudes are annoying.

CarmenF
02-19-2013, 01:11 PM
Hey girls and everyone, would it be a good idea to sell my used toys (dildos and plugs) or panties on ELM? Is it allowed?

BrightAndClaire
02-19-2013, 07:24 PM
Hey girls and everyone, would it be a good idea to sell my used toys (dildos and plugs) or panties on ELM? Is it allowed?

I've seen people doing so, though I don't know if they actually sell. Pretty sure the panties sell, don't know about the used toys--there's something on the front page about a girl offering up your choice of her old toys. They're pretty free with what they allow.

Mistress Anika
02-25-2013, 05:18 PM
Hey B&C,
Like Jaana mentioned guys do get Sticker Shock on ELM quite often but I feel its a bit necessary to change the culture of the site. On ELM about half the guys expect to pay less then 2c/min for custom content (lots of time expecting multiple people in the clip). Which is ludicrous in my opinion, even if I was filming on my cellphone I'd charge a higher rate.

Now on established sites that have a built in pricing scheme such as Clips4Sale, I have about a 90% success rate on custom sales. Now this is nothing against ELM, I love ELM, I love that its a small site but the fact that there is not default price structure causes issues. Today there was even asking for free content... not just free but a custom clip where the girl used his name, making it unsellable.

Guys on C4S have no issue paying $5-10/min for customs but on ELM, i'm assuming, enough girls jump on the 10min JOI for 20 credit Request that guys think its acceptable.

BrightAndClaire
02-25-2013, 10:18 PM
I understand your concern and I'm pretty appalled by some of the wheeling and dealing I've seen; there seems to be one girl there who will volunteer to do absolutely ANYTHING whatever the cost, and I think she's just in it for attention. I haven't yet seen any guy have sticker shock, though, and I'm seeing that I'm definitely asking more than a lot of the girls are asking. No one has balked at me yet.

BrightAndClaire
02-26-2013, 09:13 PM
I messaged the site today regarding our concerns, specifically referencing the request for a free joi video. Here's the response I got, less than an hour after sending my message:

thanks for the feedback, so is the issue allowing free "promos"?

We probably won't implement the minimum price per file size yet since our products vary ( they are not just video, they could be physical goods and other things so that would be a longer term solution we would have to build out later on.

What are some suggestions you might have besides having a minimum price per size of file. Also if you notice any free requests get through on the system you can let us know and we'll take care of it for you

-ELM Team

I wrote them back explaining it wasn't so much the promos as it was the extremely low priced non-promotional products and the fact that customers are now blatantly requesting free or extremely cheap content. I don't at this point have a lot of clear suggestions for them, though, as I don't have a sense for what girls are selling things for on sites other than ELM (anyone who sells their panties on MFC or something like that might chime in here).

BrightAndClaire
02-26-2013, 09:14 PM
And as I was writing that last post, they sent me this:

No problem, we've already told the admins who review the requests to keep an eye out for the "free" content ones. We'll probably also add some text on that page stating specifically not to do that and why as a warning to users

DahliaNoir
02-27-2013, 11:05 AM
Hey ladies, quick question - I've had an ELM account for quite some time now. I had a promo up "get me to 100 followers on twitter and I'll..." and now that it's over, I can't find a way to delete the job. Is there any way to delete "download now" products that we've posted? This is really frustrating me.

Jaana
02-27-2013, 11:21 AM
My idea was this:

When a guy has a request for a custom video, he has a little form to fill out, and based on the answers to his form he's given a minimum price HE HAS to pay, and he HAS to have that credit balance in his account before he can post the request.

So, a guy wants a 10 minute JOI video, the MINIMUM he can offer is $30, and he has to have AT LEAST 30 credits in his account before he posts the offer. If he wants his name said in the video, he must pay at least $40. if the video is for commercial use he must pay at least $60. If he wants a 10 minute toy play cam show, the minimum would be $2. i can go on but i think you all get my idea.

These numbers are extremely low I know, but they're a good starting point and a lot of guys would get the picture FAST that offer $10 for a cam show or $15 for a video is offensive and not welcomed.

BrightAndClaire
02-27-2013, 11:37 AM
Sounds like a good start. I just worked out a deal with a "virgin buyer", and he was SO clueless that I think a form like that would have reduced our message chain by at least half. I give some of these guys the benefit of the doubt, they just don't know what to expect, but I pointed out to Benic that much of sales is about managing buyer expectations.

CarmenF
02-27-2013, 05:07 PM
Oh no! I found the Phone option and it sounds cool but only for American numbers :( Is there a way to do it from Europe? Maybe with some sort of app?

CarmenF
02-27-2013, 05:10 PM
Oh also do you send tax forms to European countries?

Mistress Anika
02-27-2013, 06:29 PM
I also think that virgin buyers shouldn't be able to post requests unless they have bought a mid-sized credit package.

I always try to remind guys that lots of time goes into creating/editing/uploading clips. Maybe if they add some text about how 3-7 credits per minute is the average on vanilla custom requests?

Oh and the baseline rate should have nothing to do with FILE SIZE, that would be silly. It should be based off clip RUN TIME.

DahliaNoir
02-28-2013, 10:41 AM
I definitely think ELM should implement a system like C4S has. I like ELM better because the layout is way simpler to use, but it'd be cool if it gave you a "suggested price" like C4S does - and you can't go any lower than a certain amount.

BrightAndClaire
02-28-2013, 01:52 PM
I definitely think ELM should implement a system like C4S has. I like ELM better because the layout is way simpler to use, but it'd be cool if it gave you a "suggested price" like C4S does - and you can't go any lower than a certain amount.

That is something I pointed out to Benic. They may be reluctant to do that because the site also offers non-digital products like panties, which cannot be priced in the same way, but there's no reason why downloadable content can't get a separate submission form from material goods.

MissEgo
02-28-2013, 08:20 PM
Hey ladies, quick question - I've had an ELM account for quite some time now. I had a promo up "get me to 100 followers on twitter and I'll..." and now that it's over, I can't find a way to delete the job. Is there any way to delete "download now" products that we've posted? This is really frustrating me.

Click on "Seller" and scroll through your products until you find it. Click on the little check box beside the job title, then scroll back up to the very top of that page and click "delete" (or suspend, or whatever).
Hopefully that makes sense :)

HaydenBlue
03-01-2013, 02:58 PM
benic. Can you consider doing a minimum price setting? $1 per minute of the video (with the only other option to raise)

C4S as an example. I don't think Clips4Sale has survived and thrived on a fluke. Pricing has a lot to do with the customer base you are pulling in, their attitude towards purchasing, and it (slightly) raises the quality of models. They aren't posting out of pure desperation and handing over every video they have for 0.60 cents.

MyGirlFund is a disaster as far as it's customer base goes. It would be a shame to see ELM follow it.

Jaana
03-01-2013, 03:52 PM
Keep in mind, benic - we want prices based on LENGTH of the video, not FILE SIZE.

DahliaNoir
03-01-2013, 11:46 PM
Click on "Seller" and scroll through your products until you find it. Click on the little check box beside the job title, then scroll back up to the very top of that page and click "delete" (or suspend, or whatever).
Hopefully that makes sense :)

Thank you! It worked :D I'm just dumb and kept clicking the seller "sub-categories" rather than the category itself, if that makes sense...haha

MissEgo
03-02-2013, 04:09 PM
Just saw the "Warning: Offering or taking outside methods of payments (PayPal etc..) will result in an immediate ban and loss of all credits" in the Dashboard section. I need clarification on this lol BECAUSE... when guys ask me about customs, I usually direct them to my website page that deals with custom content rates and what I do / do not do. I started selling panties on ELM and put a link in their descriptions linking to my site as well, for details on shipping and things like that. THAT is still allowed, right? Even if my site has alternate payment links?

On my Financial Domination videos I have a "tribute me" button that links to my payoneer. I guess I should remove that now?

I've been letting my ELM credits pile up since January so I'd really hate to lose them all.

laurielegs
03-02-2013, 05:16 PM
On my Financial Domination videos I have a "tribute me" button that links to my payoneer. I guess I should remove that now?

I've been letting my ELM credits pile up since January so I'd really hate to lose them all.

Yeah because really, how is that fair for a seller to use ELM traffic to get Payoneer tributes?

Maybe you could put up an expensive vid and use that for your tributes that come from ELM guys.

CarmenF
03-03-2013, 06:57 AM
yay i can finally sell items from Elm under my same Mgf name!

Special_K
03-05-2013, 12:38 AM
I have sort of a silly question, since I started on ELM less than a month ago. Whenever someone purchases a download now video, do you usually take the time to message the buyer to thank or no?

Mistress Anika
03-05-2013, 10:37 AM
Just saw the "Warning: Offering or taking outside methods of payments (PayPal etc..) will result in an immediate ban and loss of all credits" in the Dashboard section. I need clarification on this lol BECAUSE... when guys ask me about customs, I usually direct them to my website page that deals with custom content rates and what I do / do not do. I started selling panties on ELM and put a link in their descriptions linking to my site as well, for details on shipping and things like that. THAT is still allowed, right? Even if my site has alternate payment links?

On my Financial Domination videos I have a "tribute me" button that links to my payoneer. I guess I should remove that now?

I've been letting my ELM credits pile up since January so I'd really hate to lose them all.

You think ELM would have sent out a message to their models letting us know of this change. I never check that page.
Neither of us accept PayPal but lots of girls accept wishlist purchase in exchange for customs (or to buy items for the custom) As for your tribute buttons, I guess your going to need to switch them for some kind of empty/ expensive Download item.

I also send guys to my website to get more details on customs. It sends them to a special ELM Custom page that discusses my rate, what I will & wont do. ect. Since ELM lets us post our websites, twitter's ect I dont think they are going to crack down on us for either of the things we're doing. Its probably more to deal with girls accepting PAYPAL and anything else.

Jaana
03-05-2013, 10:39 AM
You think ELM would have sent out a message to their models letting us know of this change. I never check that page.
Neither of us accept PayPal but lots of girls accept wishlist purchase in exchange for customs (or to buy items for the custom) As for your tribute buttons, I guess your going to need to switch them for some kind of empty/ expensive Download item.

I also send guys to my website to get more details on customs. It sends them to a special ELM Custom page that discusses my rate, what I will & wont do. ect. Since ELM lets us post our websites, twitter's ect I dont think they are going to crack down on us for either of the things we're doing. Its probably more to deal with girls accepting PAYPAL and anything else.I agree!

Tinsley
03-05-2013, 02:29 PM
I just signed up for ELM but I don't have much content to post as of right now. I have questions regarding selling panties/socks and the texting.

1) When posting a product for panties it wants me to add the digital download product. Do you just include a few verification photos in this or what? And how do you ship them privately? I was just going to use the buyer's name and address as the sender's name/address.

2) It says that the text messaging is secure and no one will see my personal number. How does this work?


@CarmenF - What do you mean about using the name as MGF?

Thanks~

Aurora14
03-05-2013, 02:49 PM
Signed up last night! Got a couple of my already made videos up. I'm doing roughly 2 credits per min. Does that seem low? High? I was looking and saw some stuff on there that was like a 20 minute anal video for about 10 credits... Photo sets with like 50 images for 2 credits... How do people justify that kind of pricing?

CarmenF
03-06-2013, 07:17 AM
Tinsley I use on Elm the same nick I have on Mgf.

Classy_Katy
03-06-2013, 07:46 AM
I'm charging about the same as on C4S, e.g. 2 mins is $2.99.

MissEgo
03-06-2013, 05:11 PM
Tinsley - Go "Add Job" instead of Add Product. Then for the job you can post "I Will send you my panties" or whatever. No downloads need to be attached, just upload a pic as the "sample image" and you're good to go. They'll show up on your profile under Customs instead of Download Now once they're approved.

Aurora14
03-07-2013, 07:09 AM
Yay, filming my first custom tonight. A nice $40ish for about 5 mins of a blowjob. So that would put my sales higher than C4S! I suck at C4S, but if I can have ELM be reliable instead, that would be great.

Benic, does ELM do any retweeting for advertisement? When I post on C4S they have a feature to promote on our twitter and their twitter feeds, it increased my traffic from about 30 page views to over 100 when I used it.

maryjaynexo
03-07-2013, 05:29 PM
I really really like ELM because it's so easy to upload my content. I just wish it had a feature that allowed me to schedule uploads in advance.

Ashley_3
03-08-2013, 04:44 AM
I just registered and I like it a lot. For now I've even made more money there, than I've made on streamate. So I'm really enjoying it and looking forward to make more clips. The upload is so easy. C4S is much more confusing for me.

Ashley_3
03-13-2013, 12:25 AM
Ok, my payout minimum is set on 40 credits by payoneer. Then it says "Payments are paid to you 1 week after "Lock In Date" if and when the minimum is reached" I think I hit the minimum yesterday. Then on lock-it-date it says 03-20-2013.
I just wanted to ask should I do something to get my money or they'll send them automatically? Because on Upcoming Scheduled Payout Info it says No Upcoming Payments Scheduled, so I'm not sure. And do you know when I should get the money? Should it be a week after 03-20?

BrightAndClaire
03-13-2013, 04:42 PM
Ok, my payout minimum is set on 40 credits by payoneer. Then it says "Payments are paid to you 1 week after "Lock In Date" if and when the minimum is reached" I think I hit the minimum yesterday. Then on lock-it-date it says 03-20-2013.
I just wanted to ask should I do something to get my money or they'll send them automatically? Because on Upcoming Scheduled Payout Info it says No Upcoming Payments Scheduled, so I'm not sure. And do you know when I should get the money? Should it be a week after 03-20?

The 3-20-2013 is your new lock in date for the next pay period. You do not need to do anything further to get your money as long as you set up your payment method correctly in the first place. I get a check, though, and the check gets sent a week after the lock in date; I don't know how quickly you will get your funds by Payoneer.

Special_K
03-14-2013, 06:05 PM
Ladies regarding the disclaimer that says not accepting payment outside the site. Does anyone know if that includes amazon gift cards? I've seen some jobs that mention them.

laurielegs
03-15-2013, 12:01 PM
Ladies regarding the disclaimer that says not accepting payment outside the site. Does anyone know if that includes amazon gift cards? I've seen some jobs that mention them.

I'm sure it does.

Why would the site want you to take money away from them when the guy could pay you through ELM. It's not fair to ELM to use them to get customers and then bypass the site.

Ashley_3
03-15-2013, 01:10 PM
BrightAndClaire, thank you, I'll wait and I hope everything will be allright with the payment.

I just got a message from someone who wanted me to take 10 pictures of my ass. I'm still new and I haven't done custom pictures yet. How much do you think I should charge?

Classy_Katy
03-15-2013, 01:56 PM
On clips4sale I charge $2 a picture.

Ashley_3
03-15-2013, 02:42 PM
Thank you. And I have another question :) I'm currently reading the whole thread and it was mentioned a couple of times, that you can put for sell clips, that were custom orders. But my question is what price should be proper for them? At the beginning I was thinking to charge the same price as I got for the custom order. But honestly I don't think anybody would buy them at that price. Is it ok to charge less?

Mistress Anika
03-18-2013, 08:59 AM
Thank you. And I have another question :) I'm currently reading the whole thread and it was mentioned a couple of times, that you can put for sell clips, that were custom orders. But my question is what price should be proper for them? At the beginning I was thinking to charge the same price as I got for the custom order. But honestly I don't think anybody would buy them at that price. Is it ok to charge less?

Girls sell custom clips at a pretty broad range on ELM but I recommend 3-5 credits *without name usage, on person, minimal set up time*
When it comes to reselling custom clips or selling pre-made clips I sell at 1c per min plus 1c per 5mins. If the clip is very person or was a pain in the ass or costly to film I may tack on a few credits. Add people, track on credits.

Edit: AND WATERMARK EVERYTHING

Ashley_3
03-19-2013, 01:47 AM
Thank you, but my question was quite different. A guy paid me 10 credits for a 5 min custom video, it's not very personal, no names. I still wonder at what price should I resell it. If I put it for 10 credits I don't think someone will buy it, it's not that amazing, just what the guy wanted to see. So I think to offer it for something in between 5 and 10 credits. Is this ok? I mean about the guy who paid 10 credits for it. I don't think he'll mind, he even told me to put it for sell, but I just want to make some decision how to handle that issue in the future.

Ashley_3
03-19-2013, 04:49 AM
Ok, I think something happened. Whenever I click somewhere on elm site I get a messsage "A username and password are being requested by http://john.zopim.com. The site says: "Restricted"" and then I have to click on cancel like 5 times before it stops popping out again. I don't write anything for a pass and username, because I have no idea what is that site. But it's so frustrating.

TeenageAnnie
03-19-2013, 10:04 AM
how the hell do i cash out on this site? i have 39 credits and my payoneer card is approved. it says the min is 34 credits for a payoneer transfer. all i see is this:
Approval Status: Payoneer Approved
Upcoming Scheduled Payout Info
No Upcoming Payments Scheduled
^^^^^

So how on earth do I schedule a payment? lol. :(

Ashley_3
03-19-2013, 10:16 AM
I also saw that the minimum was 34 credits, but when I linked my payoneer now the lowest I can choose is 40 credits. I'm still waiting for payment, so I'm not sure how is it happening.

And about my issue from my previous post I logged out and then when I logged in again it's not showing anymore. It was really strange though.

chloemay
04-13-2013, 08:46 AM
Just verified on ELM, and trying to upload a video. ELM says that Safari won't work, and suggests Chrome or Firefox. I stopped using FF a while ago when it started to suck, and recently added Chrome, thinking it would be a good work browser. (So far it has been nothing but a lot of headaches) However, Chrome won't allow me to upload any movie files, in fact it only gives upload in the box options for Music, Photos or Movies but the Movies one never works. Clearly I am not putting the right search engine terms to help me with this and I am so frustrated right now.

Has anyone experienced this, or knows how to overcome the issue?

Classy_Katy
04-13-2013, 08:52 AM
I used to use Firefox but I now use a version of it called Pale Moon that is much more user friendly and faster.