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DoodlebugBites
06-13-2013, 12:27 AM
Thanks, Katy and Ashley, both of your responses are very helpful!
Classy_Katy
06-13-2013, 01:50 AM
I haven't made enough on ELM to have a payout yet and I think I opened my account in November. I must try uploading some more clips sometime but I keep forgetting! C4S though I'm happy with.
Ashley_3
06-13-2013, 03:22 AM
I don't know what paying option do you use, but with payoneer the minimum payout is 40 credits, which is not a lot really. If you want to reach the payout you can also try creating promo codes. It sometimes helps me to get some sales.
angelzimm
06-16-2013, 09:33 AM
The best way for me to reach payout is scour the request page and message the users with my details and also go back through my inbox and message the previous buyers that I am open to customs and to get back at me.
Ashley_3
06-20-2013, 12:09 AM
I was wondering about something, There was a guy with request, I wrote him a message and he sent me a file with what he wants in the video. It was kinda strange to me, it was like stand in front of the camera, wave with one hand, then the other, then both, then blow a kiss, smile and so on. And there should be 5 seconds between all actions. And the actions were a lot, like 30-40. It looked strange to me and the only reason I could think of for that 5 sec breaks was that he might want to split the video. I asked him if he wants that for commercial use and he said no. But that's what I think he might wanted and I said I won't do it. Do you think he wants to use it for something or he just like really strange things?
Classy_Katy
06-20-2013, 03:01 AM
It does sound like he wants to split it up.
ashley jane
06-20-2013, 07:28 AM
So I'm trying to upload grape tomato crushing and the title is grape tomato crushing and it says I have to remove a banned word. So I'm thinking crushing no it's rape. Really? it's Grape not rape. Do people write grape just to get around the rape part? I just find it funny and weird.
ChopperM
06-21-2013, 08:34 AM
Lol no the system just automatically detects the banned words. I found it pretty funny and frustrating too when I was trying to use the word "scraped" (for a band aid video). It kept telling me I couldn't say "rape" and I was like wtf???? how is this rape??? I'm just putting baindaids on my knees???? Ohhhh ok "scraped" sounds a little like "rape"
ashley jane
06-21-2013, 03:18 PM
I told a friend and I was like what am I supposed to say if I wanna crush grapes? lol Now he's going around saying I'm going to gRAPE you.
ashley jane
06-23-2013, 08:00 AM
I just want to rant a little. I have a twitter and guys always wanna chat so ok I'll say hey whats up no problem. Well a guy wants to chart about sex (yes chart not chat cause I asked and he said no baby chart I want chart with you). So I told him he has to buy kik time with me on elm. I think he's just saying he messaged me and shit just so I'll give him my kik name for free. I've been walking him through opening an account for 24 hrs now and he's like you're not online, I sent you a message, my kik name is...., ect. So I sent him the direct link to the job and he's still like you're this and that. No I am on twitter and on my page logged in. I am not stupid enough to believe you bought it while I get no confirmation since it's a custom job. Ok done.
benic
07-19-2013, 12:54 AM
Just made an account on here to tell you guys about my experience with Extra Lunch Money. As a top performer for 6 months now I have had a mostly good experience with them up until this point. My only complaint being their lack of technical support, which operates strictly through email; no instant chat. Their payment methods are either physical check or wire transfer. They pay-out weekly with each period ending on Wednesday. Every Wednesday up until this week I have received my few hundred dollars earned over the course of the previous week through wire transfer. However Wednesday came and went and it is now 7:44pm Thursday night and still no payment. Finally received a message back from support that they are working on it, but having previous experience both sending and receiving wire transfers I know that this is a close to instant financial transaction. Just a word of caution to potential performers you may suddenly stop receiving payment. As soon as I am paid for my already earned money I will remove this post.
While it is biased coming from us, I just wanted to reassure you that we aren't purposely delaying payment in an effort to scam models. What most likely happened was a delay in processing either in the service providers we use or the recipient bank taking longer to process the wire.
To explain the payment process a little further. There are a few payment options we have. check, wire, ach, and Payoneer. What happens is on Wednesdays we submit payment through a 3rd party payment service (these are companies which are dedicated to paying out other people). While it's submitted on Wednesdays depending on the selected payment method the time to arrive to the seller varies. Physical checks often take the longest to receive as the checks need to be mailed. ACH and wire can vary as each the bank has different processing times.
The quickest "payment" is Payoneer since money is transferred directly into your Payoneer account. The downside being, however, that it takes time to transfer the money to a bank account or to turn into cash (though if you use their direct debit card than you should have access to it right away).
In either case we want to make sure you get paid so if you don't see anything by Monday send us an email at
[email protected] and we'll make sure you get paid one way or another.
maryjaynexo
07-20-2013, 10:41 AM
Really glad to see the new future scheduling for jobs on ELM :)
AureliaC
07-20-2013, 08:13 PM
If opp90 emails you ignore it.
Crazy stuff for $10 lol
naughtycamgirl
07-21-2013, 03:05 AM
Yes definitely, I used to know a guy that used this kind of vids to scam people, he had lot of msn/ Skype accounts, he pretended to be a camgirl, usually guys ask for a preview and specific thing like to wave right hand, or thumbs down etc, the scammer show him the action, potential client pays thinking it is a live show.
There is a well know guys in Italy doing it
I was wondering about something, There was a guy with request, I wrote him a message and he sent me a file with what he wants in the video. It was kinda strange to me, it was like stand in front of the camera, wave with one hand, then the other, then both, then blow a kiss, smile and so on. And there should be 5 seconds between all actions. And the actions were a lot, like 30-40. It looked strange to me and the only reason I could think of for that 5 sec breaks was that he might want to split the video. I asked him if he wants that for commercial use and he said no. But that's what I think he might wanted and I said I won't do it. Do you think he wants to use it for something or he just like really strange things?
Ashley_3
07-21-2013, 03:24 AM
Oh, great...He then wanted me to masturbate and also cum if I remember it right, so he can use that also...
TeenageAnnie
07-23-2013, 07:55 AM
search function on this site is shit, or just me? i search and i either get a black white page or it takes me back 2 the main page? i can search via the readymade tags but if i try to search my own tags like "sph photos" its impossible. i am worried this effecting our sales. any1 else get this? im using firefox.
Ashley_3
07-23-2013, 08:03 AM
I searched sph photos and got 1 result only - First Sph Photoset
If it's yours it should work. I was using chrome.
TeenageAnnie
07-23-2013, 08:11 AM
Damn it must be me then. I tried Chrome just now and got the same problem. as long as its working for customers thats good. I dont want to miss on sales because search doesnt work.
Ashley_3
07-31-2013, 06:13 AM
I do not get this... I've been looking at the requests page like I do every day. And like every day I didn't respond to any request, because they're either something I can't (or don't wish to) do or too cheap. And I saw a girl's face, which I haven't seen before so I clicked on her profile. Then I wanted to see if she has some custom jobs and she had, quite a lot. So I click on one of them and...it's a shock for me. She offers a 10 min video, in which she will do everything that you wish with her partner AND call your name also for...yeah, 10 credits. I'm sitting and looking at this and really I can't believe it. I just don't get it. And she's in the USA. And I'm not. And I find it ridiculous.
I constantly read on camming connection how girls complain that guys are being cheap. Now I think I understand why they're cheap. Because there are girls who'll do anything for 10 bucks...
AureliaC
07-31-2013, 11:48 AM
I post premade videos there when I'm bored, but I've pretty much stopped replying to custom requests. They're never worth my time.
Ashley_3
07-31-2013, 11:52 AM
I still get some that are worth, but like very, very, very rare... Like one in a couple of weeks or even more.
ChopperM
07-31-2013, 12:41 PM
^ me too. I used to get customs all the time, and the request page never used to be so rediculous =/ Now only do like one custom every two weeks. Which sucks because I finally got an HD camera to film in and I didn't even raise my custom rate!
Like seriously, guys are even trying to get bizarre shit like washing one's hair in the toilet or peeing one's pants at a restuarant or bus stop for LOWER than my usual rate (which I don't even think is that pricey)
But I guess cheap asses are everywhere
However I LOVE that guys now are REQUIRED to post what they are willing to pay when posting a request. It's saved me a lot of time and needless messages.
maryjaynexo
07-31-2013, 03:52 PM
I've never gotten a custom request that would be worth it for me on ELM, except a lot of audio requests that I quite enjoyed doing. Other than that, I just delete them and move along. Stick a baseball bat in my butt and then pee myself before emerging from a clown car? Sure thing, boss.
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Mistress Anika
08-05-2013, 05:42 AM
I'm guessing (or well hoping) the the lady who does 10c anything goes customs is recording with her cellphone. Keep in mind that the quality on ELM ranges from (in the words of one of my regulars) Clips that look like they were shot in the 90s on cellphones to professional models / Pornchickas. Not saying anyone should use ELM as their main source of income but its a bit of extra gold peices once in a while (as long as your not doing to much extra work to get them)
I've been doing better on ELM in the last month or so. Including getting a few custom requests with guys paying my normal rate (both solo & couple).
As a fun science experiment, I scheduled a month worth of clips over the weekend & am interested to see how my sales are effected.
Ashley_3
08-05-2013, 06:11 AM
No, she has a DSLR camera and something else, I don't know what it is...
I really don't think all those cheap girls have crappy quality. I think they're just...extremely cheap.
From the requests:
A video where you toy yourself with a dildo in the ass, talk directly into the camera sensually, yet like a mean dominatrix, and insult me. I can send some lines to say and more on the general type of style. You can start out nude. Also, please show off your pussy lips to the camera and don't rub them, just let me adore them while you pleasure your ass. 15 credits, 10 minutes. In terms of the actual file, looking for the following please: high quality, well lit, in focus, not grainy, 1080p video.
I just get more and more amazed. Fuck yourself in the ass, talk at the same time and don't forget to have everything in focus, with great lighting and highest quality for..yes, less then 10 bucks...
ChopperM
08-05-2013, 10:24 AM
^ me too. It irks me when guys post request full of demands for high quality, complex custom videos, insisting on full HD, multiple camera angles, etc; yet they don't want to offer much money for it. If you want quality you have to pay for it.
I'm convinced that the girls who accept these requests are not reading it in full one way or another. Like maybe they didn't notice how little the guy was offering, or they film with a cellphone and are choosing to ignore the HD part. Or they're new to the site and don't realize how much work a video like that is and how little 15 credits looks when it's transferred into your banks account.
This is also why guys are getting annoyed that so many girls are accepting their request then flaking out. Read the requests ladies!!!
ashley jane
08-07-2013, 05:30 PM
Last month I said I can do to a request that was posted anonymous for a skype show. A few weeks ago I got a message saying I'm the one that did it and I'll keep you in mind I got a ton of replies saying they can do it. We talked a little and I was like ok fine with me. The beginning of this month, end of last month he replied asking my time zone and if I can do mornings. I do work a vanilla part time job so I told him Mondays are the only for sure day I can do a morning. A week goes by and he messages saying he can't do this Monday he's going with another girl. He'll just disappear for a while then pop up for a day then go missing for another week. Ok he has a life no problem but he's still a virgin buyer after a month and a week after he started these skype shows. He's not wasting my time since it takes me two minutes to reply but I just think it's fishy that he's still a virgin buyer.
ChopperM
08-08-2013, 10:28 AM
^ A lot of virgin buyers who post requests for skype shows are paying their models with paypal or amazon gifts. That's why now I'm iffy about accepting those kind of requests from virgin buyers because usually when they contact me on skype the first thing they say is "Paypal?"
Just check how long he's been on the site. If he signed up recently it's not really fishy, he probably just hasn't had a chance to start getting shows yet. But if he signed up months to a year ago, it's kind of fishy. Just make your payment method clear to him.
MellyMay
08-08-2013, 11:11 AM
Hey ladies! In another post, I mentioned that since tumblr/yahoo have cracked down on anything barely adult related, I have seen a decline in certain traffic. My blog is a main way to announce new things, etc.
This morning, I got an email from ELM, and I'm sure you did too.
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Frustrating.
ashley jane
08-08-2013, 01:50 PM
He said he has a skype show set up for Monday so if he's still a virgin buyer Tuesday I know he isn't paying on the site. He talks about credits but who knows. I just find it weird.
charizma
08-09-2013, 03:53 PM
How do you do skype shows and get paid ...this is something i dont understand with the girls selling their skype ids...how do they get paid for the show?
CurvyWinona
08-09-2013, 03:59 PM
Will I get payout, even if not met, when I close my account? It's too hard to make any money on elm and I have $20 something on there and I don't want to associate with elm much longer. It has gotten too cheap for me to post my hard work videos.
ashley jane
08-09-2013, 07:45 PM
I had a guy set up an escrow for the amount we agreed upon and I sent him my skype name after. I've also seen girls set up custom jobs saying I will give you a x amount of minute skype show for x amount of credits.
RebeccaT
08-11-2013, 12:53 AM
This thread is fantastic. I'm about to set up an ELM account.
Can my videos have music in them?
Also, if my husband is in my videos does he need a verified account, too?
Thank you
SunnyAlice
08-12-2013, 07:41 AM
Hey girls,
I've started my ELM account about 2 weeks ago and now have about 150$, most of them from custom videos or photos. I'm asking between 5 and 7 credits / minute of custom video. I really don't think it's a lot taking into account that I need time to edit and load the content afterwards, so it's really not just 10 mins of vid, but more like an hour of work.
I'm gonna rant a bit, but I really don't understand how some girls can sell themselves so cheap on ELM (and other sites for that matter)!!! I'm Eastern European and know lots of girls here sell their stuff for way too little money, but they are not the only ones! I really wish more cam girls would read this forum to know this is not the way! 10 credits for a 20 min custom video is really not ok! I know there are guys willing to pay more for their wishes, so I'm not in any way blaming cheap girls for not making more money. But I do believe it gives a bad reputation to cam girls in general.
I recently had a conversation with a guy on ELM that was complaining about my custom video price. He wanted me to write on my body messages for him. Not sure the specifics, but anyway, something I could never resell. I think 5credits/minute is anyway a bargain, so I said no. He kept insisting and I'm proud of myself I kept firm and refused. It's sometimes easy to get tricked into accepting to lower your price when you really need the money! But I think it was good for me, I prefer losing some money, but keeping my standards and self respect.
Peace to all.
ashley jane
08-12-2013, 09:14 AM
I've seen girls selling panties for 5 credits! That doesn't even cover the shipping! I've seen a lot of girls with 5-10 minute videos for 1 credit. I was doing really well then summer came and all these new sellers came on and they were selling things super cheap. I'm lucky with one guy who will come and buy all my stuff every once in a while.
Mistress Anika
08-13-2013, 07:12 PM
I've heard guys complain that girls accept request (even the low ones) without really reading the request at all. The buyer & seller message back and forth & right at the end go "yea well its going to cost XX credits" So maybe thats part of it.
@SunnyAlice, your prices are very reasonable & you are totally right about the time its takes to produce a custom clip.
@Rebecca, Music is fine & your husband can be in your videos (& whoever else you want thats of legal age) but keep in mind you should always have a model release stored in your personal documents, just in case.
RebeccaT
08-14-2013, 12:19 AM
Hey girls,
I recently had a conversation with a guy on ELM that was complaining about my custom video price. He wanted me to write on my body messages for him. Not sure the specifics, but anyway, something I could never resell. I think 5credits/minute is anyway a bargain, so I said no. He kept insisting and I'm proud of myself I kept firm and refused. It's sometimes easy to get tricked into accepting to lower your price when you really need the money! But I think it was good for me, I prefer losing some money, but keeping my standards and self respect.
Peace to all.
@Sunny Alice I've just started on ELM and I'm asking at least 5 credits per minute for a custom video. I've had enquires already but none have actually confirmed; it may be they think the cost is too high but tough...that's what you've got to pay if you want me!
@Mistress Anika Thank you. ELM did eventually get back to me and asked me to email my husband's ID and Sign Photo.
So far, I am loving the site :)
SunnyAlice
08-14-2013, 12:43 AM
Rebecca, what Sign Photo was your husband required to show? I mean, what was it written on it since he doesn't have a username :)
Thank you!
cherryblossomsinspring
08-14-2013, 06:43 AM
Wow I just looked at some of the jobs posted. 4 credits for a blow job video? Also it's 100 elm crdedit = $60 to cash out. How do any of the cheap rates make enough money? So that one video is worth about $2.40?
Also some of these video requests are ridiculous. I just read some guy wants a model to go into a restaurant or gas station bathroom in a dress , cut it up into small pieces then she has no choice but to exit this public area naked. He's willing to pay only $30 credits which = $18 to the model. I mean really now you have to worry about being arrested for indecent exposure? All for $18 bucks? He puts that people don't actually have to be there but how many people can go into a gas station bathroom and come out naked without being seen?
So destroy a dress that is hopefully cheap then on top of that you have to streak through a gas station with the chance of being arrested but all of that gets $18?
Lol I just read another where the guy wants you to go through full blown masturbation instructions for him but while you're doing all of this talking he always wants you to get off to. Surely holding an entire conversation and scripted discussion will allow you to also focus on your orgasm as well? When do people hold conversations like that in sex anways? He wants this to be about 10-15 min and he's paying $30.
Lol a guy is offer 1 freaking credit for a girl to fuck herself with a curling iron. Seriously? lol I'm suprised he didn't request for the curling iron to be turned on and the highest setting. So all of that for umm about $0.60? Ohh excuse me I forgot to add he wants it up her ass instead. My mistake lol
Another guy wants a 1 hour skype show for 50 credits so basically he wants to pay .83 per min yet she'll take in .50 per min. So a .50 per min private? How generous of him lol
Wow here's another "asking for too fucking much" This guy wants the model to start out in a loose top then breasts must be dangling out , then he wants you to show your neck by bending down to the cam , the he wants you to take the top off and tease with your breast a bit , then he wants you play wearing a gstring or boy shorts, then he wants you to slowly take everything off , then he wants you to play standing with one foot on a chair, then after that he wants you to curse him out and say his name several times . After this he wants you on your back with your knees in the air fingering yourself and then he wants you to then use a toy. Then he wants you to spread your ass for him and lastly he wants you to cum yelling and screaming his name. All of this for the lovely sum of $25 ( $15 your cut).
Woooooooooow. I almost feel like I'm reading an adult version of ODesk.:O
Ashley_3
08-14-2013, 07:02 AM
The 1 credit requests are negotiable most of the times. The guys just don't want to put a price. But for all th eorhers yeah, it's incredible how cheap they are. Now I respond to requests very rarely.
ChopperM
08-14-2013, 08:46 AM
It's a viscous cycle. The girls who agree to do the really cheap requests are usually flakey and unprofessional or don't really realize what they're agreeing to, so the guy sets up an escrow, then the girl never does ends up doing to the video, and then the guy complains that all sellers are flakey and abandon escrows. I always tell guys that you get what you pay for.
You can either get a half assed video that's poor quality and delivered in 2 weeks, or pay a little more and have an HD video delivered in 24 hours.
I have a feeling that most of the guys complaining about escrow abandonment in the discussions right now are the ones that post really cheap requests. If you want a professional, you have to pay her rates.
ashley jane
08-14-2013, 09:14 AM
I rarely look at the requests anymore unless I am super bored. I see some guy would post a bunch where he wants an air bag to go off. He wanted you in a dress with the seat belt secured tightly and you to back up into a tree to make the airbag to go off. I can't remember what he was offering. Even if I had a car I would never do that and don't know why any one would.
cherryblossomsinspring
08-14-2013, 09:51 AM
I rarely look at the requests anymore unless I am super bored. I see some guy would post a bunch where he wants an air bag to go off. He wanted you in a dress with the seat belt secured tightly and you to back up into a tree to make the airbag to go off. I can't remember what he was offering. Even if I had a car I would never do that and don't know why any one would.
Hahaha lol what is wrong with these "males". I saw the airbag one but I just was like huh? Even if someoen were to do this they would sustain injury due to having to physically feel the blow of the car hitting said object. Also not to mention she would need to replace that airbag within a reasonable amount of time plus damages to the car. All of this shit and this guy thinks a few measly credits it worth the trouble?
I'm so glad models that respond go flakey. It's exactly what they deserve.
ashley jane
08-14-2013, 09:57 AM
At least once a week he was posting one of those. I just make short few minute clips and post them and hope to get a custom request. I noticed if I post anything 10 credits or more it won't sell.
RebeccaT
08-14-2013, 10:53 PM
Rebecca, what Sign Photo was your husband required to show? I mean, what was it written on it since he doesn't have a username :)
Thank you!
He had to hold a sign saying "Mr T is on Extra Lunch Money"
It's not an ELM user name but it ties in with mine and he's known by this name as my husband.
I did reference ELM's message to me in my email so that there's no come back.
RebeccaT
08-15-2013, 07:25 AM
I've seen some girls have a link on ELM to MFC. How is this done, please?
ChopperM
08-15-2013, 09:06 AM
^ Edit your profile and put your MFC profile link as one of your "links" (like where you link your twitter, tumblr, etc). Elm will link the accounts automatically :)
RebeccaT
08-15-2013, 10:30 AM
^ Edit your profile and put your MFC profile link as one of your "links" (like where you link your twitter, tumblr, etc). Elm will link the accounts automatically :)
Ah, thank you. I've done that :)
RebeccaT
08-15-2013, 03:11 PM
Ooooh...I've completed my first custom photoset. I've accepted the escrow. How do I send the guy the photos? Surely if I simply attach them to a message he can copy them all (not that he'd need to copy them as he'd have the files) and say they aren't what he wanted then not pay (Although I don't think he'd do that..he seems genuine)
I need to send the file by tomorrow so someone pleeeeeeeeeeeeease let me know :o)