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bluexxxtasy
10-14-2011, 01:57 PM
as far as the couple is concerned he wasn't as critical as i thought he would be and if there was a time where i might get to that point, lisa interjected saying the purpose of the show was not to judge but to shed light on these situations. at the end of the segment she also said she would like the show to provide a better understanding of the situations on her show or the person watching will may see that particular situation on the show differently

minniesoporno
10-14-2011, 02:07 PM
Just watching it now and the couple they are interviewing is using the logitech pro 9000 webcam and they work on streamate ... big up.

EricaErotica
10-14-2011, 02:23 PM
Yeah. I'm watching it right now too.

hidarlin
10-14-2011, 02:25 PM
I'm just going to watch Lisa Ling's show about it. i find her way more tolerable than Dr. Spray Tan.

Camgirltee
10-14-2011, 04:16 PM
Yeah I wish the couple had more time to talk, instead of the girl being mad at her dad. Oh and the woman mad at her husband for watching. Hell I watch all the time aone here at home. I love porn! That's just me. But I thought it would be different. I will watch the lisa show online.

HaydenBlue
10-14-2011, 04:18 PM
Just finished watching it. I was expecting to be very enraged, like I did while watching Sasha Grey on the Tyra Banks Show. I wasn't.

It wasn't as much of a bash fest as I thought it was going to be. I was more annoyed with the couple at the end of the show, the young wife who was an "emotional wreck" ::) that her husband watches porn, than I was with Dr. Phil.

I liked how Lisa stepped in and said she didn't do the show to judge and her mindset on the matter was really, "Not my thing, but you go ahead and do you."

As far as Tyler and Berkeley goes - I think they handled it well. I loved how Lisa brought up the point over and over again that the couple were doing this as a way to better their lives and to spend more time with their daughter and not in a more negative, "I'm a whore, I'm a whore, I'm a whore - look at me" light that the media generally tends to focus on.

They came accross as too meek to me, though. If I was on that show I would be WAY more opinionated, challenging and rip into the naysayers and eye-rolling audience. But that's just me. LOL. :D

LovelyVixen
10-14-2011, 05:04 PM
I thought they said that they make $1000 a day... did I hear them right???

GlamourRouge
10-14-2011, 05:08 PM
I thought they said that they make $1000 a day... did I hear them right???

LOL @ that. Even if you charged $9.99 (most people charge a third or maybe half of that) a minute and were in private straight for an hour, you'd only make $100. So, I guess if they are in exclusive (not even a second of free chat) for 10 hours straight and are charging $9.99 a minute, then yeah. ::)

LovelyVixen
10-14-2011, 05:14 PM
LOL @ that. Even if you charged $9.99 (most people charge a third or maybe half of that) a minute and were in private straight for an hour, you'd only make $100. So, I guess if they are in exclusive (not even a second of free chat) for 10 hours straight and are charging $9.99 a minute, then yeah. ::)
For some reason I thought I heard that they make $1000 a day, not a week, but a day. My man was like, what did they say?? He was all about jumping in w/ me for scenes:)

laurielegs
10-14-2011, 05:17 PM
I thought they said that they make $1000 a day... did I hear them right???


Nope they said working a few days a week they can typically net $1000.

LovelyVixen
10-14-2011, 05:28 PM
Nope they said working a few days a week they can typically net $1000.
That makes more sense.:-\

lokikola
10-14-2011, 05:31 PM
Don't need to watch it. Don't think anyone needs to watch it because we all know how its going to go already.

MissKatie
10-14-2011, 06:19 PM
I wanna watch it!!! Is it online? There's been a few shows like that over here recently... wonder if the world is waking up to it? Eeek I hope not. Don't want every flippin female out there coming in and stealing our business!

KrystleX
10-14-2011, 06:56 PM
I wanna watch it!!! Is it online? There's been a few shows like that over here recently... wonder if the world is waking up to it? Eeek I hope not. Don't want every flippin female out there coming in and stealing our business!

I'm hunting for it online. I'll post a link if I find one ;D

Also, yes... I think the camsites should stop all future signups dammit!! We're going to be inundated :'(

Tinsley
10-14-2011, 07:01 PM
I'd like to see it too, hope you can find it! I looked at Dr. Phil website and saw a little preview.

ManyRoses
10-14-2011, 09:33 PM
In the process of hunting for an online copy of this so I could watch it (shits and giggles) I came across this lovely and informative article on the Dr Phil website.. http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/54

I wish to quote the following:

"Pornography isn't real, it's a fantasy. It's makeup, beauty lenses, hair extensions, camera angles, lighting and silicone! It's also somebody's daughter who has taken a really, really wrong turn. She's demeaning herself, debasing herself, humiliating herself and she's being exploited by people who are funded by you. It is a sick, demented, twisted world. It's not healthy, it's not natural and it's not normal."

Huh.

My initial rage at hearing such awful, narrow minded crap has abated...but I do wonder at where "Dr" Phil gets his info? I may wear makeup (but what modern woman doesn't?), but I use no "beauty lens" (what in the hell IS a beauty lens? Where can I get one?) I don't have hair extensions, my camera angle is on top of my computer (took a lot of work to get that angle perfect!), my lighting is two IKEA lamps and a couple smaller ones (although I want to improve this), and the only silicone I have in my body is a pair of neon pink silicone plugs in my ears....

As for demeaned, debased and humiliated? I'm pretty sure that everyone on here will know how much crap that is...and I'm not entirely sure who he thinks is "exploiting" me....sure, the site gets some of my earnings....so would a marketing firm, legal firm and hosting company if I chose to use them working independently...and so does the government in the form of taxes! I am the least demeaned, degraded, humilated and exploited that I have ever been in my working career!

I think that the only thing that this idiot got right in his puritanical, ridiculous, bigoted idiocy, is that I AM someone's daughter. Two someones. Who are lovely, caring people, who raised me well, and who support my decision to earn good money however I wish, as long as I am safe, happy, healthy and living within the law.....I wonder how "Dr" Phil's parents would feel if they knew how their son's show promoted shame and self-hatred disguised as unsolicited pity....

AudrinaCams
10-14-2011, 11:44 PM
The show wasn't bad at all, I think they were all respectful of the camming couple. They said they normally make $1,000 a week but sometimes up to $2,000.

Re: the girl whose life was spiraling out of control because her Dad did porn--I think it makes no sense to blame her problems on finding out that one thing. However him possibly "grooming" her to do porn was pretty messed up and I wonder if there was more to that story than she explained.

Also, what was with Dr. Phil asking the cam couple "What are you going to tell your kids"? IMO camming is like my sex life and should be PRIVATE. Your children have no right to know what you do behind closed doors as long as it's not illegal and not hurting anyone. If my parents cammed I would pray to God I never found out.. seriously. ew.

Edit to add: the whiny wife was the worst part of the show. If porn is a deal breaker then you shouldn't have gotten married. The guy has probably been doing it more than half of his life, and to think that he would stop for you must make you one special (albeit naive) snowflake.

I watched the episode with my man (we've done couples) and we just laughed about the porn addiction thing. Yeah 5 hours is a lot but I know from personal experience if a man is getting enough sex he doesn't have the stamina for jacking it too, especially not that frequently.

Marcella
10-15-2011, 05:07 AM
Anyone ever find the link?
I wanna watch!
=)

pronstar
10-15-2011, 07:56 AM
It sucks because now that they did the Dr.Phil show their profile no longer shows up on SM, I wonder if they got the boot. My hubby and I do couples shows on there and it's funny because the other day we were checking out our competition and saw their profile but they weren't online.

Fridays
10-15-2011, 08:40 AM
I watched the show and these are my opinions :

- the young couple from streamate... they could barely speak up!
They did not do justice to all the intelligent cam models/couples out there... If Lisa would not have interfered at a point, you;d have thought that they can't put 2 and 2 together... SORRY GUYS! I know the stress of being on such a big TV show was intense but really, you could have done better!... but then again, speaking too highly of this industry maybe could get us more competition LOL.. so thanks for not doing that.

- The older couple husband taking pics/video and the lady performing... I loved them! They seemed nice and understanding of how things are... you could tell because of their age that they see things from a diff. perspective... It wasnt all about the cash.. at least they made it seem this way.

- The couple at the end.. the wife mad at her husband for watching porn : to each their own! Their situation does not define all people who watch porn!..If that guy spends 5 hours watchng porn he is irresponsable with his family first. They said they have a kid. Where is the dad in the kid's life if he is busy with something ELSE , WHATEVER that is..?!

----
over all the show was stereotypical.
Lisa failed to conclude that THESE ARE JUST SOME SITUATIONS in this business.

Not everybody makes $1000-2000/week from online amateur porn.
Not everybody has their spouse/family involved in it.
Not everybody is addicted and ruins their lives over online porn.

HOw is porn affecting peoples lives in a bad way?
Well how did the failure of the economy affected home owers?
How do drugs affect people?
How does alcohol affect MILLIONS of families every day?
How does eating crappy food all the time affects you for life?
and so on...

Things are what YOU LET THEM BE.
Cause and effect.
YOU are in control.
Blaming the circumstances is a poor excuse for being weak. Period.

OJenni!
10-15-2011, 12:09 PM
Did anyone find the full episode online?

I found this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEH-VI950Yw

Must say good publicity for streamate.

ManyRoses
10-15-2011, 12:14 PM
Did anyone find the full episode online?

I found this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEH-VI950Yw

Must say good publicity for streamate.

Yeah...I'm kinda hoping that it bumps up the profile of the site...maybe gets a few new custys...but I actually think that it wont. Lets face it, I don't know many guys who watch Dr Phil...and the ones that do, aren't exactly my target demographic! Dr Phil is aimed at women who are at home during the day...not sure they'll really be leaping on to pay us the big bucks!

bubblegumbitch
10-15-2011, 05:17 PM
yea but, they are advertising it all over the news like this and guys will see that and tivo the shit out if it to see it.

GlamourRouge
10-15-2011, 06:30 PM
Dr Phil is aimed at women who are at home during the day...not sure they'll really be leaping on to pay us the big bucks!

Exactly! Its aim at women and the unemployed who are able to stay home and watch it! Which means there will be WAY more new girls camming hard, ESPECIALLY on streamate!

GlamourRouge
10-15-2011, 06:34 PM
Did anyone find the full episode online?

I found this clip.



Must say good publicity for streamate.

By the way, they claim they cam 2-3 hours a night 4 times per week (that's an average of 10 hours per week) and they apparently make "well over $1000 per week" on streamate. Umm they are obviously LYING. So they are making $100+ an hour? Like I said before, $100 an hour is ONLY possible if they are in private 100% of the time they are on and charge $9.99 a minute.

Its obviously not true LOL. Maybe if they have $300+ gold shows once an hour for every hour they are on... Doubt it!

roast
10-15-2011, 07:08 PM
^They probably cam on other sites. If Isought out the mainstream media Id only talk about and show the sites I like (which is 1-2) - not the rest (3-5). You're also not taking group chats into account... Ive seen a few models only do $200-300 gold shows over and over again, it is feasible. Plus Lisa Ling isn't an amateur, Id suspect they verify claims. But I think they're probably just underestimating how much time they spend live. I believe it. It is possible.

What I was confused by was the voiceover saying they earn 25% - sounds like they're in a studio. Break away guys! Break away!

The bummer is they blurred the SM logo. I think we just know it is streamate because we are familiar with the interface and lingo (like when Sierra said 5 gold). I also saw the logins for xtube featured (but logos blurred).

They're still active btw, they just may have shut down those who dont have a registered credit card on file or blocked a few states.

SarahTime
10-15-2011, 11:59 PM
By the way, they claim they cam 2-3 hours a night 4 times per week (that's an average of 10 hours per week) and they apparently make "well over $1000 per week" on streamate. Umm they are obviously LYING. So they are making $100+ an hour? Like I said before, $100 an hour is ONLY possible if they are in private 100% of the time they are on and charge $9.99 a minute.

Its obviously not true LOL. Maybe if they have $300+ gold shows once an hour for every hour they are on... Doubt it!

I don't think they are lying at all... I frequently pull off $90-100 per hour. I only make that from gold shows tho. I think they do mostly gold shows so doing $100/hr is HIGHLY likely for them. They are a young hot popular couple. If I can pull that off solo, they definitely pull it off.

$150 goal would make you $52.50. Do that twice in one hour and there you go = $105/hr. I do this all the time.

Did anyone find the full episode online?

hidarlin
10-16-2011, 12:01 PM
FYI The actual Lisa Ling show comes on tonight at 10 EST

First 5 minutes here :

Tsani
10-16-2011, 01:04 PM
I'm still waiting for the full episodes to be online since I has no cable :(

h0ttie
10-16-2011, 01:44 PM
By the way, they claim they cam 2-3 hours a night 4 times per week (that's an average of 10 hours per week) and they apparently make "well over $1000 per week" on streamate. Umm they are obviously LYING. So they are making $100+ an hour? Like I said before, $100 an hour is ONLY possible if they are in private 100% of the time they are on and charge $9.99 a minute.

Its obviously not true LOL. Maybe if they have $300+ gold shows once an hour for every hour they are on... Doubt it!

u forget on sm you can have multiple people in pvt. i don't think they are lying at all...i made over 1000 one day working 13 hours.

OJenni!
10-16-2011, 01:56 PM
It sucks because now that they did the Dr.Phil show their profile no longer shows up on SM, I wonder if they got the boot. My hubby and I do couples shows on there and it's funny because the other day we were checking out our competition and saw their profile but they weren't online.


What was their profile name?

fuuka
10-16-2011, 04:34 PM
I definitely am much more interested in Lisa's show about the industry than Dr. Phil.
I love Sierra's personality in the clip :D

That quote from Dr. Phil's website really makes me rage too.
I know that my shows contain something real. That's the appeal of live cam sites, you're talking to the naughty girl next door, and it's an entirely different experience. Something you can interact with is always going to have more appeal.
Sure I never go on cam without make-up (although, I don't think it would matter if i did, I just like getting all dressed up and sexy cuz it gets me excited for the show), and yes I put a lot of time into perfecting my angles, but there is no silicon at all (not that I think it's a bad thing, plenty of girls that don't cam from their homes have implants or other plastic surgery). I pride myself for being real in my shows, I don't hide that I'm happily engaged or a huge dork/nerd, and the customers love me for it. This is the first "job" I've ever had that enables me to be much more me than I ever could at some place like Cracker Barrel.

Marleysade
10-16-2011, 04:57 PM
Prepare for a MASSIVE influx of new camgirls And this forum will probably flood with lurkers and/or newbie questions.
Im just glad he didnt say what siyes they were on..but you can tell it was streamate

Smurfette
10-17-2011, 10:08 AM
Just watched it. Honestly I'm impressed. The show wasn't overly critical like I had expected, and the couple they featured seemed very normal and down to earth. They both seem so sweet that it's hard not to sympathize with them and their choices.

This episode may attract new models but I don't think it'll be a huge influx. If you look at Dr. Phil's demographics, it's mainly middle-aged prudish housewives who I don't think would be attracted to the industry unless they're REALLY struggling financially. Even if many new models sign up, it's likely that only a small percentage will stick with it long-term especially after they realize that it really DOES constitute "work" (despite Dr. Phil's air quotes) and that it's not as easy to make thousands of dollars each week as the show implies.

Fridays
10-17-2011, 11:40 AM
Even if many new models sign up, it's likely that only a small percentage will stick with it long-term especially after they realize that it really DOES constitute "work" (despite Dr. Phil's air quotes) and that it's not as easy to make thousands of dollars each week as the show implies.

yesssssss this!!!!
now we have the reassurance that THIS IS WORK!
it is a JOB lol
for all the people out there blaming us that... we do nothing all day :D

MissKatie
10-17-2011, 11:42 AM
Still haven't found a copy of this in UK. Driving me insane lol

laurielegs
10-17-2011, 12:12 PM
Still haven't found a copy of this in UK. Driving me insane lol

I haven't been able to find it either. I can usually find a copy somewhere online. It looks like a lot of the episode is covered in the summary but Id still like to watch the whole thing.

Anyone have a link?

ElizabethEverdeen
10-22-2011, 12:42 AM
I actually watched the actual Lisa Ling show when it came on a week or so ago. Didn't see the doc Phil preview of it. Sure he was scandalized.

I thought it was interesting. So much so that I signed up to be a cam model. Lol. My husband has suggested it for years but i didn't know what it was. Now i do because of that show. Pretty sure they meant for it to have the opposite effect. ;)

eta: i read the rest of the thread. I don't think any of you ladies have to worry about too many New girls stealing the show from you - I can tell from watching cam models over the past week that experience helps ALOT. And I promise i won't bring any other girls to the fold. Our secret. :) My friends would die of i told them this was how i am making extra cash.y

thedarling77
11-22-2011, 12:33 PM
Prepare for a MASSIVE influx of new camgirls And this forum will probably flood with lurkers and/or newbie questions.


Truth! The same with strip clubs. A bunch of wanna-bes messing with our money.

BlakeDahlia
11-22-2011, 01:25 PM
IMO, I think most girls don't believe they could do it. I've talked to a couple of my friends about camming. I don't know if they just don't believe me when I tell them how much money I make or they think it's a fluke and they wouldn't make that much. Cute girls who have dabbled in adult entertainment too.

There might be a few more sign ups, but working from home in general is harder than most people think. You have to be motivated to log on everyday, even when you don't have a boss telling you to. Statistically, most girls who sign up for camsites don't stick with it more than a few weeks.

WorkItNow
12-09-2011, 06:12 AM
Lisa Ling is what true journalism is supposed to be about, just sayin..