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Cam_chick
10-25-2011, 06:37 PM
I would have never signed up for MFC in the first place or even known what sites were what if it weren't for this forum coming up in google. Just sayin'. You can take that as affecting your traffic or not, but I'm sure I'm not alone.

cyberstripper
10-25-2011, 06:50 PM
What is hilarious about this to me is all of the "dont share info'ers" decided to comment on this post, did not share any valid info that may actually help the OP and then decided to HATE ON THE peopel who did try to help the OP. Can we get back to the topic at hand please? If you don't want to help, you dont have to but save the rest of the bs for your verified group lol.

GlamourRouge
10-25-2011, 06:50 PM
For this reason, sharing info is really NO THREAT TO ME PERSONALLY, nor do I find posts a threat to my industry, wether it be positive or negative. People have to have their own experiences to really form an opinion of any site. Wether you really want to read that much into this stuff ladies, is up to you. I like to help others and will continue to do so wether someone else wants me to or not, and nobody is gonna tell me what I can and cannot post unless it is against the rules of this site. If you think it is absolutely imparative to the future of the industry to not share any info with any one, please by all means keep the information to yourself or restricted to your "verified group" Don't hate on people who do not agree with that and come here to share and help others gasppppppp..again why forums were invented.

LOL no one ever said sharing information or helping anyone is the threat. Everyone is arguing their own point, which is something complete different.

The threat is, like I've stated several times in this thread, when you state this exact info: the sites you work on, the days you work & don't work, the times you work, how long you work for, and how much $$$ you make. That is the threat. That information doesn't help ANYONE, and only hurts you by stating it.

Whether you like it or not, thousands of girls will read that info & WILL sign up for that site and start camming those EXACT hours because they KNOW someone is making good money at that time. Thousands will do it, it will naturally deplete your traffic. The more you hype your site/day/time, the more girls will focus on working that site/day/time. After all, the ones who came across this forum in the first place were probably googling cheats to make more money camming, so they ALREADY were looking for tips to make the most money in this industry. That's just how it works.

So, like I said before, KEEP THAT EXACT INFO TO YOURSELF, EVERYONE! It does NO GOOD FOR ANYONE, and will only fill up that time frame with new girls who think they've found the ~*~golden time~*~ on whatever site you mentioned. Then, that time frame is dead for EVERYONE because the traffic is being spread thin.

cyberstripper
10-25-2011, 06:54 PM
^ You know what I mean
You are obviously threatened by the information and dont want it to be let out.

Anyways, I will agree to disagree with you. But please do not tell me, or anyone else what I can and cannot post on a public forum.

People, like me, may disagree with you. May not feel threatened by info on these forums. May not feel it harms them. When it becomes a proven fact, then I may shut the fuck up but until then, I will post whatever I want on the forums, if you do not want to share you do not have to, nor does anyone else but enforcing a "no sharing" rule on a public forum will be a big waste of your time. Time that could otherwise be spent making money. Off to work I go ladies, best of luck tonight!

GlamourRouge
10-25-2011, 07:01 PM
^ You know what I mean
You are obviously threatened by the information and dont want it to be let out.

Anyways, I will agree to disagree with you. But please do not tell me, or anyone else what I can and cannot post on a public forum.

People, like me, may disagree with you. May not feel threatened by info on these forums. May not feel it harms them. When it becomes a proven fact, then I may shut the fuck up but until then, I will post whatever I want on the forums, if you do not want to share you do not have to, nor does anyone else but enforcing a "no sharing" rule on a public forum will be a big waste of your time. Time that could otherwise be spent making money. Off to work I go ladies, best of luck tonight!


I don't care what YOU or anyone else posts. All I said is that YOU are only hurting YOURSELF by posting the answers to those 5 questions because tons of girls will start working the time that someone states is the ~*~*best*~*~ time to work. But all of you can continue post that, but you will keep seeing traffic die for you a week later after you do.

Its a proven fact because you will always see someone mention a **good** time frame, and then the next week you will see those same people complaining about how traffic magically died::). This has happened countless times in the last 6 months. EVERY time someone posts something like that, that's what happens.

Doesn't affect me at all. I am not personally threatened because my info is in the bag. I will gladly share it, but not with the whole world}:D

Smurfette
10-25-2011, 08:08 PM
Just wanted to mention this... I'm not 100% certain but I believe thread views are just that, views. It's not a count of unique visitors to the thread. So the diary thread for instance hasn't had 40K+ unique visitors all spying on us and our lives. Rather the bulk of that number is simply from *us* constantly reading, refreshing, & posting.

I'm sure this forum gets a lot of Google traffic but I doubt it's an absolutely staggering amount, enough to bring in hoards and hoards of new girls to the camsites and effectively cripple the entire camming industry. All because SexyLipz69 posted about how she made $300 on mfc or something.

Besides, I see a whole lot more posts about how SHITTY camsites have become, the traffic has dropped, it's dead, ssooooo slow, etc. Just like this thread we're posting in now. Not exactly encouraging for new potential models doing research.

But if I'm wrong and this forum IS having a measurable effect on the industry, I think we should all lie and exaggerate how BAD our earnings are in an attempt to discourage everyone else.

Ugh I only made $17 in four hours, :'( CAMMING ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE!!

MissKatie
10-25-2011, 08:08 PM
What is hilarious about this to me is all of the "dont share info'ers" decided to comment on this post, did not share any valid info that may actually help the OP and then decided to HATE ON THE peopel who did try to help the OP. Can we get back to the topic at hand please? If you don't want to help, you dont have to but save the rest of the bs for your verified group lol.

Coming into this thread for the first time, on the last page to skip all the bullshit, the FIRST thing I read is this! How bitchy and catty. I actually stopped in my tracks. I am in the verified group too, and I got sick and tired of hearing bitchy comments about it when it was first set up, and i thought they'd all blown over.. it seems not. What the hell being in a verified group has to do with being nasty to other posters on here I do not know! PLEASE do not comment on what you know nothing about. That group is a haven for those of us who do not want guys reading our posts, or where we discuss things we don't feel comfortable discussing elsewhere. That does NOT mean there is backbiting, bitching, plotting, or defaming other members in there. There isn't. I've never seen a single post like that.

And that's the first and LAST time I hope I'm ever going to have to post defending the verified group. If you don't want to join it fine, no one is forcing you to. But keep your opinions on the way people conduct themselves on THEM, and not the group they are part of, because it's not fair on the rest of us!

MissKatie
10-25-2011, 08:14 PM
In response to the original post, personally I can't say I have seen a massive slowdown. That's probably due to the fact that I haven't actually gotten my lazy ass on cam for most of October doh! But last wednesday I was all fired up to get on cam for the whole day and night, and then there was no traffic and I was like, oh feck! But it's ok. I picked myself up and did some phone chat instead. I can say the last time I was on SM it seemed a lot quieter than when i was on before, but i don't cam regularly on there so guys never know when to find me. I think having a regular schedule helps a lot. Just 3 big regulars per week who spend a lot can make a HUGE difference to your earnings. And that's what it's all about really. If I can make a shit load of money off of a few regulars, then I'm happy. It doesn't bother me too much if things are a little slower than usual. Just do other stuff at the same time and one way or another those goals get met :D

cyberstripper
10-25-2011, 08:26 PM
LOL no one ever said sharing information or helping anyone is the threat. Everyone is arguing their own point, which is something complete different.

The threat is, like I've stated several times in this thread, when you state this exact info: the sites you work on, the days you work & don't work, the times you work, how long you work for, and how much $$$ you make. That is the threat. That information doesn't help ANYONE, and only hurts you by stating it.

Whether you like it or not, thousands of girls will read that info & WILL sign up for that site and start camming those EXACT hours because they KNOW someone is making good money at that time. Thousands will do it, it will naturally deplete your traffic. The more you hype your site/day/time, the more girls will focus on working that site/day/time. After all, the ones who came across this forum in the first place were probably googling cheats to make more money camming, so they ALREADY were looking for tips to make the most money in this industry. That's just how it works.

So, like I said before, KEEP THAT EXACT INFO TO YOURSELF, EVERYONE! It does NO GOOD FOR ANYONE, and will only fill up that time frame with new girls who think they've found the ~*~golden time~*~ on whatever site you mentioned. Then, that time frame is dead for EVERYONE because the traffic is being spread thin.

If it does not bother you then why are you making a it a point to tell everyone where they can and cannot post useful information?

People can find "golden times" without logging onto this precious forum. It is not rocket science, I can go to MFC and see if people are being tipped, I can go to SM and see if private shows are active, or if gold shows are active. There are many other ways to find out if a site is busy or not. This forum is probably the LAST place to find that info. Seriously, there are hundreds of thousands of camgirls out there, and only so many views on the posts on this site. The cam industry as a WHOLE has not even been introduced to SW yet!!!

And for the record, I have never been one of the girls to post exact times, incomes, etc. I keep my personal business to myself. If people want to share it, let them. You have no right to tell people what they can and cannot post here, and where they should. If you feel that you dont want to share, don't. But don't try to have others hop on to your "non sharing birgade" and fall into the hype that we are going to ruin all of these sites posting "valuable" information about them.

The "video porn market" has changed for various factors. I am positive that not one of those reasons has to do with anyone sharing useful information about the industry.

cyberstripper
10-25-2011, 08:34 PM
Better get your ass kicking boots on ladies, if you think camming is so terrible, that the money is not what it used to be, that the market is too saturated...wait for the next few years to come along. Percentages will only get lower, there will be more competition then ever, and you will have to work more then 2 hours a day to make decent money. If you think it is bad now, you may as well quit while you are ahead. Considering a majority of us still have 10+ years in camming if it is your chosen career, you really may want to reconsider camming as a career and go back to a 9-5 if you do not want to adapt to the industry.

If you think you are not making the money you deserve, you never should have considered camming. Camming money is not handed to you. It is earned. You will not earn a red cent pointing fingers and placing blame.

cyberstripper
10-25-2011, 08:39 PM
Coming into this thread for the first time, on the last page to skip all the bullshit, the FIRST thing I read is this! How bitchy and catty. I actually stopped in my tracks. I am in the verified group too, and I got sick and tired of hearing bitchy comments about it when it was first set up, and i thought they'd all blown over.. it seems not. What the hell being in a verified group has to do with being nasty to other posters on here I do not know! PLEASE do not comment on what you know nothing about. That group is a haven for those of us who do not want guys reading our posts, or where we discuss things we don't feel comfortable discussing elsewhere. That does NOT mean there is backbiting, bitching, plotting, or defaming other members in there. There isn't. I've never seen a single post like that.

And that's the first and LAST time I hope I'm ever going to have to post defending the verified group. If you don't want to join it fine, no one is forcing you to. But keep your opinions on the way people conduct themselves on THEM, and not the group they are part of, because it's not fair on the rest of us!

I am sure the verified forum is a safehaven and it should be a place for people who do not want custys to read their posts, or discuss things they do not feel comfortable sharing in public, but people are not using it in this manner....certain members of the verified group (see above) are telling others where they can and cannot post information. Certain members of the verified group (see above) are telling me that I should not post any useful information in the public forums, I should only post it in these verified forums and I disagree with that. Nobody has any right to tell people where they can and cannot post.

I find it equally offensive that people are using the private group as a way to withold useful information from this site, and telling everyone here that they ***MUST POST*** certain information (that can be useful) ONLY THERE..Please do read thru all of the bs, before you zoom in on my post and call me a bitch. I am positive the verified group does not exist for its members to tell others what information they can and cannot post in the unverified sections of sw. A certain member of your verified group is doing just this (see above) and that isn't right. This is a public forum and people are welcome to share (or not share) their opinions anywhere they choose. For someone to tell me otherwise, to tell me where and where I cannot post is crap.

hotmodel
10-25-2011, 08:59 PM
U girls dont find it weird that ever since gold shows came out on streamate its been a steady decline? Not only that but it also feels like we are having to be constantly going into show (meaning playing with our pussies 24/7)!. Its not like it used to be where we would get to know a regular and relax a bit. The whole camming thing feels like its changing. Free shows on MFC..free chat on Streamate..now gold shows where alot are teasing and nude before they even go private. I just think alot of guys are getting it for free now..why pay to play anymore. Why would anyone go down the page of Streamate anymore when you got a couple of gold shows on the first couple top rows of half naked girls or teasing and stuff. Alot of these guys could get off with a thong on...boobs out and rubbin it. I think its training these guys that all webcam girls are getting naked for almost free. Now there treating us all like that. Just saying.

Brilynne
10-25-2011, 09:07 PM
U girls dont find it weird that ever since gold shows came out on streamate its been a steady decline? Not only that but it also feels like we are having to be constantly going into show (meaning playing with our pussies 24/7)!. Its not like it used to be where we would get to know a regular and relax a bit. The whole camming thing feels like its changing. Free shows on MFC..free chat on Streamate..now gold shows where alot are teasing and nude before they even go private. I just think alot of guys are getting it for free now..why pay to play anymore. Why would anyone go down the page of Streamate anymore when you got a couple of gold shows on the first couple top rows of half naked girls or teasing and stuff. Alot of these guys could get off with a thong on...boobs out and rubbin it. I think its training these guys that all webcam girls are getting naked for almost free. Now there treating us all like that. Just saying.

Why be on a cam site at all when there is plenty of free tubesites?
Because camming is about more than being half naked. It's about being a fantasy, making them want YOU rather than those girls on the first page. I don't think camming will ever die entirely, but it WILL change. So we must change WITH it.

I really don't know what's going on anymore, but I'm gonna spend less time worrying and more time working.;)

MissKatie
10-25-2011, 09:30 PM
I really don't know what's going on anymore, but I'm gonna spend less time worrying and more time working.;)

I love it! Me too :D

And agree about the free tube sites - free porn has been around forever, and cam sites have actually experienced an increase in traffic and revenue in that time, so i'm not sold on free shows being the cause of the slowness (if any), although i personally am always a bit dismayed when i see those shows happening.

ElianaIsis
10-25-2011, 09:31 PM
Why be on a cam site at all when there is plenty of free tubesites?
Because camming is about more than being half naked. It's about being a fantasy, making them want YOU rather than those girls on the first page. I don't think camming will ever die entirely, but it WILL change. So we must change WITH it.

I really don't know what's going on anymore, but I'm gonna spend less time worrying and more time working.;)

I agree Bri, it's the personal experience. I have several guys that come see me nightly just because they say they can't get ME out of their head. It's a tease and flirt game, it's not all hop on and look pretty. It's all about making them want you personally not the next girl that looks exactly like you.

CamWhore
10-26-2011, 06:56 AM
Camming is starting to turn into Stage performances" that we have to sell tickets to, versus "private shows" .

Last year around this same exact time, I slowly moved away from camming. It got "cheaper" , it also got more competitive in a tasteless manner such as, Free shows in public. ( that's my opinion, not trying to hurt anyone)
I dont like how sites are forcing those who do not want to be show girls into one.
I will stay on imlive and remain private.

im not going to do tits for $5 that ain't my style. you want some personal time with me go ahead, but i will never again sell peice by peice (lap dances).

I sell packages ( the vip room).

its going to get real ugly if all the sites act the same. The girls on streamate where used to a certain culture, now they are forced to act like the country of My Free Cams.

These sites need to stop offering the same things and think OUTSIDE the box for thier models.

Until then, I will be making more promo videos and pushing my own traffic to get what I want.

Nobody is stopping us from doing great except for ourselves. Build a website, learn SEO and get busy. The camming industry appears to be going in a direction for custys, not us.

CamWhore
10-26-2011, 06:58 AM
with that being said, Today I will be focusing on clips , A promo video for my store, as well as topsites. Today will be what I make it, Im going to make this $$$ and not sulk about the cam traffic... cause there's money all over the internet.... go get you some.

BustyAmeera
10-26-2011, 07:22 AM
I think any success in life is what we make it. With hard work comes rewards, so let's just work hard, and think outside the box. Thinking outside the comfort zone is where the money is. Trust me.

OJenni!
10-26-2011, 10:02 AM
Camming is starting to turn into Stage performances" that we have to sell tickets to, versus "private shows" .

Last year around this same exact time, I slowly moved away from camming. It got "cheaper" , it also got more competitive in a tasteless manner such as, Free shows in public. ( that's my opinion, not trying to hurt anyone)
I dont like how sites are forcing those who do not want to be show girls into one.
I will stay on imlive and remain private.

im not going to do tits for $5 that ain't my style. you want some personal time with me go ahead, but i will never again sell peice by peice (lap dances).

I sell packages ( the vip room).

its going to get real ugly if all the sites act the same. The girls on streamate where used to a certain culture, now they are forced to act like the country of My Free Cams.

These sites need to stop offering the same things and think OUTSIDE the box for thier models.

Until then, I will be making more promo videos and pushing my own traffic to get what I want.

Nobody is stopping us from doing great except for ourselves. Build a website, learn SEO and get busy. The camming industry appears to be going in a direction for custys, not us.

The more I read from you the more I like you :)

I am DONE with "free chat". I used to spend the majority of my time busting my ass on SM, while keeping imlive and a few others open in the background. I did not really make a whole lot of videos, my place was a mess and I felt like I was not getting much done with my day.

Yesterday was pretty silent other then the 6 videos I sold and two short shows on imlive. BUT I did get a fair sum of marketing done (went into some chat rooms and dropped links, made some blog posts and sent out mass emails), a decent meal cooked for myself and a nice walk with my dogs.

Today so far has been very profitable! Got my ass up early at 5am and went to the gym, walked my dogs and ate breakfast all before 8am. Got online and sold 2 five minute shows on AW, then took 2 niteflirt calls back to back (3 and 8 minutes respectively). Oh and I just got out of a 50 minute long private on AW. Things are rolling today! Not to mention the blogging I got done, advertising I looked into and links I placed.

I feel like I am getting a lot more done by skipping the mandatory freechat sites. Now I sit in private on AW and imlive and make better money then I did on SM. Don't get me wrong, there were days I did make $150+ on SM but unfortunately because I held my ground on certain things (no free public shows) over the past few months it was taking me more and more effort in "freechat" to make that $100+.

SarahTime
10-26-2011, 12:42 PM
I HAVE AN IDEA!!!!

Why don't we all shut the fuck up and get our asses on cam?????

Just sayin'! :)

SarahTime
10-26-2011, 12:46 PM
U girls dont find it weird that ever since gold shows came out on streamate its been a steady decline? Not only that but it also feels like we are having to be constantly going into show (meaning playing with our pussies 24/7)!. Its not like it used to be where we would get to know a regular and relax a bit. The whole camming thing feels like its changing. Free shows on MFC..free chat on Streamate..now gold shows where alot are teasing and nude before they even go private. I just think alot of guys are getting it for free now..why pay to play anymore. Why would anyone go down the page of Streamate anymore when you got a couple of gold shows on the first couple top rows of half naked girls or teasing and stuff. Alot of these guys could get off with a thong on...boobs out and rubbin it. I think its training these guys that all webcam girls are getting naked for almost free. Now there treating us all like that. Just saying.

Since Gold Shows I have seen nothing but increase, INCREASE, I N C R E A S E in my earnings.

I much, much, much prefer to go Gold Shows all day long than private after private after private. Gold Shows are not going anywhere so girls are going to have to adapt or move on.

This is why I am not afraid of "girls flooding the market" type stuff. Sure you might get an influx of girls on any given cam site but how many of those girls are going to stick around and become top earners? NOT MANY. You have to actually work at this and stick it out if you want to make it. That means girls are going to have to adapt to changing times or find another job.

I'll go ahead and adapt to whatever comes my way. I'd much rather make $80-$100 an hour in the comfort of my own home, teasing and flashing my tits doing Gold Shows all night than working my ass off at an 8-5 job somewhere.

MissKatie
10-26-2011, 12:54 PM
I HAVE AN IDEA!!!!

Why don't we all shut the fuck up and get our asses on cam?????

Just sayin'! :)

hehehe consider us told! }:D

SarahTime
10-26-2011, 01:01 PM
hehehe consider us told! }:D

LOL I have to tell myself this daily :)

CamWhore
10-26-2011, 02:36 PM
I refuse to "adapt" I just find other shit to do.

whos going to adapt when the percentage drops?

hm?

SarahTime
10-26-2011, 03:06 PM
I refuse to "adapt" I just find other shit to do.

whos going to adapt when the percentage drops?

hm?

I honestly do not think streamate will ever lower the models percentage. But if they do, I'll adapt. 50% (as an example) of zero is still zero.