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Blovely
10-13-2013, 07:37 PM
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justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 07:39 PM
this is the best definition i could get from that post....so....some days ur making dollars and some pennies?
i am asking because I CARE..if i didn't i would be on cam right now getting rich and saying lololol these other camgirls are dumb more $$$$$$$$$$$ for me. no one is giving straight answers there is a whole lot of defending and not enough explaining.
I cannot deny that I do love to wax hyperpole.
The nitty-gritty would be, some days I make minimum wage and some days I don't.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 07:47 PM
I studied at a graduate level. Idk about Genoveve. But formal education doesn't really matter.
Gaslighting is when someone calls you crazy and you react with anger. No one is calling anyone names, they are just saying to take responsibility for their actions.
Gaslighting is a form of mental abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity.
False information: "If someone finds it offensive I think that that has more to do with themselves."
Message: If you are having an emotional response to what is being said then therefore your emotional response is wrong and you are wrong for having it.
Fact: There is no such thing as a WRONG emotional response.
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 07:48 PM
Gaslighting is a form of mental abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity.
False information: "If someone finds it offensive I think that that has more to do with themselves."
Message: If you are having an emotional response to what is being said then therefore your emotional response is wrong and you are wrong for having it.
Fact: There is no such thing as a WRONG emotional response.
I am aware of what it is. Once again, I studied all of this in undergrad and grad school. But this is not gaslighting. Gaslighting is manipulation where the other person gets you to do whatever they want you to do (and its not good stuff obviously), and when you react any other way than they want you to, they call you crazy. Then you, in turn, get angry and ~*act crazy*~ thus validating their claims. But that is not what this is. Gaslighting almost exclusively happens in relationships or between child and parent as well.
If your business is successful, it will show in the numbers. That is reassurance enough. After all, we all go into business to make a strong profit, right?
Well in this case, YOU are the product! You are selling yourself! It may not be ~*you*~, but rather a character you create, or a side of yourself, or an extension of yourself. Either way, YOU are the product.
No one is saying YOU are horrible! Everyone is saying YOUR PRODUCT is not nearly as good as it could be. And people in this thread are taking offense to this, because they aren't remember that THEY are the product. Its not a personal attack. Its telling you to improve your business since you are not making the profit you want to. YOU just so happen to be the product you're selling.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 07:49 PM
It's really a shame that you started this thread to be helpful and that people are just getting defensive. Just goes to show you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink; which is why I usually stay out of the advice threads. It's like I said earlier, the people arguing so vehemently against you are the same ones who regularly complain about not making money....so what does that tell you. :eye:
It tells me that my opinion differs from your opinion and that threads on Stripperweb rarely stay on course.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 07:51 PM
No one is saying YOU are horrible! Everyone is saying YOUR PRODUCT is not nearly as good as it could be. And people in this thread are taking offense to this, because they aren't remember that THEY are the product. Its not a personal attack. Its telling you to improve your business since you are not making the profit you want to. YOU just so happen to be the product you're selling.
Then why do you keep using the judgmental word 'fault?
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 07:53 PM
I am aware of what it is. Once again, I studied all of this in undergrad and grad school. But this is not gaslighting.
Okay....
But it isn't Carl Jung either. ;)
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 07:54 PM
Okay....
But it isn't Carl Jung either. ;)
Did you fail to see where I posted that that was PROJECTION, under which shadow (by Carl Jung) is a subdivision? The link is still up there. Projection is Sigmund Freud, and is even in the DSM. I don't think you really understand what you're talking about lol.
Then why do you keep using the judgmental word 'fault?
I am using it in a way you don't understand I guess. fault (n): responsibility for an accident or misfortune. Not making the money you want classifies as a misfortune.
Sorry, but I really can't argue with things this pointless and obvious.
How about this? Everyone making the money they want can continue to do so, and everyone NOT making the money they want can also continue to do so. Sounds like a plan to me!
CourtneyRaine
10-13-2013, 07:56 PM
*sigh*
I feel like every time I read threads on here lately they always devolve into these awful personal attacks against people which don't have much to do with the issue at hand. It also seems that the same people are always at the center of these conflicts. And I don't know why? I thought this was supposed to be a support forum? And yet lately I feel like I'm reading more model on model antagonism than I see from belligerent, misogynist customers.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130209165214/smuff/images/b/b1/I_don't_know_what_I_expected.gif
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 07:58 PM
I cannot deny that I do love to wax hyperpole.
The nitty-gritty would be, some days I make minimum wage and some days I don't.
what are u making on good days? double minimum wage, triple, quadruple? do you really believe that it is just the traffic?
a good example someone posted in this thread was if you ur goal is 200 a night and you are only making 100 it must just be slow. i suck so bad at math so i would really not like to go into mathematics lmao but....i am saying if you are making HALF of what you consider a "good day" on a "slow day" then it has to be SOMETHING that is different. SOMETHING that is NOT traffic. It is something in your control, it HAS to be.
can you even consider the fact that it could be you? I am not trying to be rude...do you consider it and say nope it's not me..or do you really just think it's not possible?
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 07:59 PM
I am using it in a way you don't understand I guess. fault (n): responsibility for an accident or misfortune. Not making the money you want classifies as a misfortune.
Sorry, but I really can't argue with things this pointless and obvious.
How about this? Everyone making the money they want can continue to do so, and everyone NOT making the money they want can also continue to do so. Sounds like a plan to me!
The only point I am trying to get across to you is that if you want to encourage people your should try to refrain from using judgmental language.
".....people had a positive growth force that would be stunted from reaching its potential in the context of judgmental others."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/theory-knowledge/201305/making-judgments-and-being-judgmental
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:01 PM
what are u making on good days? double minimum wage, triple, quadruple? do you really believe that it is just the traffic?
a good example someone posted in this thread was if you ur goal is 200 a night and you are only making 100 it must just be slow. i suck so bad at math so i would really not like to go into mathematics lmao but....i am saying if you are making HALF of what you consider a "good day" on a "slow day" then it has to be SOMETHING that is different. SOMETHING that is NOT traffic. It is something in your control, it HAS to be.
can you even consider the fact that it could be you? I am not trying to be rude...do you consider it and say nope it's not me..or do you really just think it's not possible?
Well, right now seeing that I have a neurotoxin in my brain that is currently making me incredibly ill I am going to have to say that it isn't as much as I could be.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:02 PM
JAC you are grasping desperately at straws and making no actual arguments. You are nitpicking nonpoints in a circle.
I am?
How nice of you to keep me up to date.
Blovely
10-13-2013, 08:06 PM
I was thinking the same exact thing.
*sigh*
I feel like every time I read threads on here lately they always devolve into these awful personal attacks against people which don't have much to do with the issue at hand. It also seems that the same people are always at the center of these conflicts. And I don't know why? I thought this was supposed to be a support forum? And yet lately I feel like I'm reading more model on model antagonism than I see from belligerent, misogynist customers.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:06 PM
Well, right now seeing that I have a neurotoxin in my brain that is currently making me incredibly ill I am going to have to say that it isn't as much as I could be.
Edited to add: Let me guess, the neurotoxin is my fault too right?
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:12 PM
*sigh*
I feel like every time I read threads on here lately they always devolve into these awful personal attacks against people which don't have much to do with the issue at hand. It also seems that the same people are always at the center of these conflicts. And I don't know why? I thought this was supposed to be a support forum? And yet lately I feel like I'm reading more model on model antagonism than I see from belligerent, misogynist customers.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130209165214/smuff/images/b/b1/I_don't_know_what_I_expected.gif
Okay, I'll stop.
*hangs head in shame*
LilyAnderson
10-13-2013, 08:15 PM
What is this argument about anyways?
The reason of having a slow day?
In my personal opinion, technically there ARE slow days. You might sit there for 10 hours and only make $50.00.
What you're also doing within those ten hours are gaining followers/regulars even if they're broke. They might come back in a week for an hour long exclusive. You don't know.
Sometimes, your hard work pays off in later times.
In a personal experience, I made 70.00 in four hours on MFC. Pretty boring, right?
I spoke to someone during that time who was a BASIC, mind you, and a month later, I was dropped a 10k token tip from him.
So is your day really a "slow" day?
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:15 PM
I'm not really offended. I give great cam and it says so in my reviews, comments, and tags. However, I personally rely on other sites to drive traffic to me and if that traffic isn't converting, I KNOW it's not just "me" no matter how "positive" I'm acting. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you ladies that being positive definitely helps in this industry. However, to me, you're all talking from an "independent" cammodel standpoint. Indy models have to find their own traffic and if they don't do well, the blame falls on them. For a model like me who does not advertise at all, but rides traffic, converting traffic is a HUGE deal. If the men aren't the converting types, that shouldn't fall on me alone.
I have a vanilla business. I've had it for over a year and a half and I had to uproot it and am in the process of revamping in another location. Because I am the boss, I'm the advertiser, customer service, the employee, everything until I hire. I only service high end clientele and it's all up to me to make sure I reach that clientele and make sure they convert. I purchase high end products and my website is high end and my customer service is top knotch. I also service a small, but extremely demanding part and we're a niche. I do not service average Joe households but I get a lot of low budget people calling as well as higher end peeps.
If I hire a great technician who does what she's told and is amazing in every way, it doesn't matter if she's not bringing home any or much money. Why? because I run advertisement. If I don't get her the business she needs, it doesn't matter how well she does her job. Now, if she was Indy then yeah, it would be on her. I don't disagree that some of the blame does fall on us, but to say that we are the only one it does/should fall on is ridiculous to me and not reality and I'm sticking to my story. I feel like I'm going in circles here. You can be positive all you want but if the converting traffic isn't there to convert, you can't smile your way to the bank bb. But you can try again the next day.
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 08:17 PM
Edited to add: Let me guess, the neurotoxin is my fault too right?
why be so dramatic? i am saying you control your income that is all. why is it offensive?
CourtneyRaine
10-13-2013, 08:17 PM
Can I be honest with you JAC? I feel the exact same way as you do about the issue in this thread but I've been too afraid to see anything because I see how some people have been picking on you on a personal level and I don't even want to expose myself to that kind of negativity. No need to hang your head in shame, my dear :)
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:18 PM
I'm not really offended. I give great cam and it says so in my reviews, comments, and tags. However, I personally rely on other sites to drive traffic to me and if that traffic isn't converting, I KNOW it's not just "me" no matter how "positive" I'm acting. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you ladies that being positive definitely helps in this industry. However, to me, you're all talking from an "independent" cammodel standpoint. Indy models have to find their own traffic and if they don't do well, the blame falls on them. For a model like me who does not advertise at all, but rides traffic, converting traffic is a HUGE deal. If the men aren't the converting types, that shouldn't fall on me alone.
I have a vanilla business. I've had it for over a year and a half and I had to uproot it and am in the process of revamping in another location. Because I am the boss, I'm the advertiser, customer service, the employee, everything until I hire. I only service high end clientele and it's all up to me to make sure I reach that clientele and make sure they convert. I purchase high end products and my website is high end and my customer service is top knotch. I also service a small, but extremely demanding part and we're a niche. I do not service average Joe households but I get a lot of low budget people calling as well as higher end peeps. If I hire a great technician who does what she's told and is amazing in every way, it doesn't matter if she's not bringing home any or much money. Why? because I run advertisement. Now, if she was Indy then yeah, it would be on her. I don't disagree that some of the blame does fall on us, but to say that we are the only one it does/should fall on is ridiculous to me and not reality and I'm sticking to my story.
Everyone who is commenting on here is talking about a major free chat site, not indy. Either SM or MFC.
I still really do not understand why half the girls are doing better than ever $$$wise, and the other half say they are making no money. It still makes no sense. On the same sites too. SM or MFC.
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 08:19 PM
Can I be honest with you JAC? I feel the exact same way as you do about the issue in this thread but I've been too afraid to see anything because I see how some people have been picking on you on a personal level and I don't even want to expose myself to that kind of negativity. No need to hang your head in shame, my dear :)
what is the issue? all i am saying is YOU or all of us HAVE CONTROL OVER OUR INCOME. COMPLETE CONTROL!!!!! (i am not yelling at you - just screaming my point because I am frustrated)
i feel like i am missing something?
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:20 PM
Can I be honest with you JAC? I feel the exact same way as you do about the issue in this thread but I've been too afraid to see anything because I see how some people have been picking on you on a personal level and I don't even want to expose myself to that kind of negativity. No need to hang your head in shame, my dear :)
Awe, it is okay. I always put myself out to be the punching bag.
I figure it saves other girls the hurt.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:21 PM
why be so dramatic? i am saying you control your income that is all. why is it offensive?
I promised I wouldn't play anymore.
I did have fun though.
Thanks for the great debate!
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:22 PM
Awe, it is okay. I always put myself out to be the punching bag.
I figure it saves other girls the hurt.
No one is attacking you. I mean, if you like being the victim, that's something else entirely.
This is a business thread about our business. We are the products. So it may SEEM like someone is attacking you, when all they are doing is comparing business notes. Again:
If your business is successful, it will show in the numbers. That is reassurance enough. After all, we all go into business to make a strong profit, right?
Well in this case, YOU are the product! You are selling yourself! It may not be ~*you*~, but rather a character you create, or a side of yourself, or an extension of yourself. Either way, YOU are the product.
No one is saying YOU are horrible! Everyone is saying YOUR PRODUCT is not nearly as good as it could be. And people in this thread are taking offense to this, because they aren't remember that THEY are the product. Its not a personal attack. Its telling you to improve your business since you are not making the profit you want to. YOU just so happen to be the product you're selling.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:23 PM
Everyone who is commenting on here is talking about a major free chat site, not indy. Either SM or MFC.
I still really do not understand why half the girls are doing better than ever $$$wise, and the other half say they are making no money. It still makes no sense.
I know what everyone is talking about, but the message you're trying to deliver seems like it's for indy girls. Converting traffic matters whether it's you making the conversions, or where the sites are finding these customers. The reason you don't understand, and what I've been trying to explain to you, is because it's more than the model's positive way of thinking. Other things are affecting income as well.
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 08:23 PM
it wasn't a debate someone was trying to help you ...but you don't want help. ok then everyones "slow" days are ending up in my bank account 8)8)
now i remember why i don't come here often anymore.
LilyAnderson
10-13-2013, 08:24 PM
Just another point, if you feel you AREN'T making enough on where you're working, why don't you just try switching it up? Sometimes, I won't make a dime on MFC, but I'll make 100.00 in an hour on Chaturbate. Simple camgirl intellect.
When you give up too early, the only person you're hurting is yourself.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:25 PM
Products don't sell themselves, otherwise, every single product that's packaged would sell itself. Advertisement has a LOT to do with it. Turn on your TV bb.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:25 PM
No one is attacking you. I mean, if you like being the victim, that's something else entirely.
This is a business thread about our business. We are the products. So it may SEEM like someone is attacking you, when all they are doing is comparing business notes. Again:
Speaking of attacks, you never did get back to me on why you decided to bring up all the private information that both other girls and I had said in chatzy and post it on a public form. ;)
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:26 PM
I know what everyone is talking about, but the message you're trying to deliver seems like it's for indy girls. Converting traffic matters whether it's you making the conversions, or where the sites are finding these customers. The reason you don't understand, and what I've been trying to explain to you, is because it's more than the model's positive way of thinking. Other things are affecting income as well.
No I don't do indy. I'm talking about free chat sites. Half the girls are doing AWESOME on SM or MFC, and the rest are saying they are doing horrible. People are still making money... come get yours! Attract those men into your room and keep them there. I even made a partial list of things to do, here:
Other things may affect income, but we are all work the same site(s) so no one is getting extra special treatment.
Products don't sell themselves, otherwise, every single product that's packaged would sell itself. Advertisement has a LOT to do with it. Turn on your TV bb.
We are all working the same sites and thus getting the same treatment. We are all getting the same level of advertisement, yet some girls are doing better than ever and some worse.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:27 PM
it wasn't a debate someone was trying to help you ...but you don't want help. ok then everyones "slow" days are ending up in my bank account 8)8)
now i remember why i don't come here often anymore.
I actually thought we were debating.
I am sorry if the misunderstand made you not want to come here anymore. I really didn't mean any harm. I am not quite sure why you thought I needed help. I mean, I never asked for it.
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:28 PM
Speaking of attacks, you never did get back to me on why you decided to bring up all the private information that both other girls and I had said in chatzy and post it on a public form. ;)
I told you to PM me and we can continue it there. Bringing it up in a different thread (like you're doing right now), is on you. I did not share any private info you did not already share publicly, and I posted those links. I haven't been in that chatzy in ages. Again, you can PM me about this OT matter if you're interested.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:28 PM
Okay, can we all get really real here? I'd love to see a recent photo of earnings from the models who are doing soooo well right now compared to say, a few months back. Let's see the proof bb! I want to see some comparison charts.
LAChloe
10-13-2013, 08:29 PM
Maybe you're the poster child for the average dude's cam girl fantasy.
While h0ttie is absolutely beautiful, I have never seen a bigger hustler in the camming world. The girl works her ass off---seriously. If you haven't noticed, she rarely posts here anymore. Because while some of you are here bitching about how slow it is, she is splitcamming a handful of sites, smiling, and watching her pay out go up.
Self responsibility is huge in this business.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:29 PM
I told you to PM me and we can continue it there. Bringing it up in a different thread (like you're doing right now), is on you. I did not share any private info you did not already share publicly, and I posted those links. I haven't been in that chatzy in ages. Again, you can PM me about this OT matter if you're interested.
Why do you get a PM and I had all my dirty laundry aired out here?
That seems hardly fair, don't you think?
CourtneyRaine
10-13-2013, 08:30 PM
^^^Oh my god. Girlfriend I am sorry but you are just embarrassing yourself.
@h0ttie, to answer your question, language like what I quoted above is the kind of response to this thread is an example of the reason why I don't even want to engage in this thread- which I think has the potential to be an amazing and helpful thread regardless of which side of the debate you are one. One can argue that you can't completely control slow days, which allows a model to not lose a certain level of self confidence and face her next shift with positivity and optimism without convincing herself that she is a complete failure. One can also argue that you are in complete control of your earnings, which let's be honest, sometimes we all do things that sabotage ourselves, or at the very least, do not maximize our earnings- and it's important to recognize what we can do better so that we get better results. The issue I have with how this thread has devolved is not over which arguments are presented- it's HOW some people are choosing to present themselves.
I'm sorry but the above quote is a rude-ass, blatantly personal attack that is just outright MEAN and ads nothing to the discourse going on here. Why would I want to engage with people who think it's okay to speak to others in such a base manner?
I'm interested in the content of this thread, but damn, some people just be plain rude in how they speak to others.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:30 PM
Why do you get a PM and I had all my dirty laundry aired out here?
That seems hardly fair, don't you think?
Edited to add: I was unaware that what other girls thought of me on Chatzy was public information.
LilyAnderson
10-13-2013, 08:31 PM
I think everyone just needs to smoke a blunt together and be happy that we all have an awesome job..Where we can make tons of money.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:31 PM
No I don't do indy. I'm talking about free chat sites. Half the girls are doing AWESOME on SM or MFC, and the rest are saying they are doing horrible. People are still making money... come get yours! Attract those men into your room and keep them there. I even made a partial list of things to do, here: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?164438-The-real-reason-it-s-slow&p=2547056&viewfull=1#post2547056
Other things may affect income, but we are all work the same site(s) so no one is getting extra special treatment.
I don't need your help GR I made $100 an hour yesterday as an average and took today off. And please don't come into my room trying to "teach" me how to make money like you, I'm good bb, but thanks anyway :) I'm here to debate that there are some girls who aren't doing that well. It amazes me how many girls both here and in verified are complaining about the slump. I think it's real and I've had to work a bit harder to make what I was making a few weeks back but I'm good. You say things are great, others say not so much. That doesn't mean you are wrong, or they are, it's just two different realities is all. I'm also not going to tell you that you are wrong like you have others.
Tbean
10-13-2013, 08:32 PM
I agree lol I've noticed that when I'm feeling less then hot, I do horrible...when I am in a great mood, it shows!
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:32 PM
Anytime bb.
Does that count for me asking you not to keep me up to date as well? ;)
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:34 PM
I don't need your help GR I made $100 an hour yesterday as an average and took today off. And please don't come into my room trying to "teach" me how to make money like you, I'm good bb, but thanks anyway :) I'm here to debate that there are some girls who aren't doing that well. It amazes me how many girls both here and in verified are complaining about the slump. I think it's real and I've had to work a bit harder to make what I was making a few weeks back but I'm good. You say things are great, others say not so much. That doesn't mean you are wrong, or they are, it's just two different realities is all. I'm also not going to tell you that you are wrong like you have others.
I never offered to help you. I never gave you advice. I never addressed you. I gave good advice in this thread that girls have already said was helpful. If its helpful to you, great! If its not, ignore it like every other thing that isn't helpful to you on SW.
I have never ever ever gone into anyone's room to teach them to do anything. Please leave me alone lol.
justanothercamgirl
10-13-2013, 08:35 PM
As much as I'd love to keep playing, I am sure you've noticed that my spelling and sentence structure has been degrading throughout this thread. The medicine I take to keep my cognitive functions operational has about worn off so I'll check in with all you bbs tomorrow.
You'll just have to keep the party going without me. ;D
HaydenBlue
10-13-2013, 08:36 PM
Ooooh boy.
I don't even like to come into CC anymore because threads like this end up spiraling into a big depressing mess to read. Yikes. Can we get it back on topic?
anywaysssss.
About a year 1/2 - two years ago? (roughly) i was working my way up on SM. it was rough in the beginning, i worked long hrs a day to pull out a $200/goal and it just started with a lot of trial and error - until i found a hustle that worked for me. i may not be as outgoing as some other models but it makes me a good $70-$100/hr most days when I'm being consistent.
the other night i was on for an hr - my TMJ was acting up and i was in pain = irritated and just not in the mood to sit in free chat. i had my bitch face on and i earned a whopping $14 / hr. ouch. lol. i took a break, smoked the pain away ;) and got on in a different mindset and made $67 the next hr - and none were regs. so i totally agree with the vibe/mindset thing - same thing as real life. would you rather go over and shake someone's hand who is smiling and looks inviting or someone who is scowling and calling people a bitch? <--- that is how a guy see's us in our chatrooms. not always, but like 98% of the time? yes.
body language is really important.
consistency is really important.
putting in the hours is really important.
i get some slow days and then there are totally awesome, super busy times of the year/day. the rest of the time its pretty even, IMO. if its slow on one site, i just log off and either take a break and then relog - or i switch sites...i don't believe in just sitting for hours and hours without a private. that messes with your mood too much. then you fall back into 'bitch mode' then you get $0 then its just a never-ending cycle of "no money, no traffic"
if one site is "slow" - switch your hustle, do the opposite of what you're doing. if that doesn't work log out and break. take 10 minutes for a breather, reset your computer, log back on and get fresh traffic. if that still doesnt work switch sites, or make clips. it is not "dead" everywhere.
do something that is going to constantly make you $$$ - then you will never ever have a "slow" day.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:43 PM
I never offered to help you. I never gave you advice. I never addressed you. I gave good advice in this thread that girls have already said was helpful. If its helpful to you, great! If its not, ignore it like every other thing that isn't helpful to you on SW.
I have never ever ever gone into anyone's room to teach them to do anything. Please leave me alone lol.
People are still making money... come get yours! Attract those men into your room and keep them there. I even made a partial list of things to do, here: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?164438-The-real-reason-it-s-slow&p=2547056&viewfull=1#post2547056
Am I the only one reading this correctly? How can one quote me, and say "come get yours! Attract those men into your room and keep them there." Also, link me to a thread of things to do aka this thread...but "isn't" offering me help, giving me advice, or addressing me? Gosh, I must be seeing things. And you have gone into people's chat room to meet up with you and help them because they mentioned they weren't making much money, you've mentioned this yourself bb. Oh, and please stop playing the victim. You're on a public forum and I can quote you and direct any post I want to you because you choose to respond back. Let's not make it seem like I'm stalking your posts or bothering you because I'm not.
sexysusie
10-13-2013, 08:43 PM
I'm not on MFC or sm, and I don't do Indy? .. I still completely agree that income is in our hands! I experience this every time I get on cam and when I watch others - site seems slow? Update your profile, add pics, swap your main pic, promote with twitter, forums, top sites, listing sites, buzz all your messenger contacts, add videos to your clip site with your cam link on... There's a million things we can do to bring traffic and therefore income!
Those who are bitter because they're not making money always look out wards (it's the sites fault, those other girls get given more traffic, they're escorts so of course they're more popular, she does taboo blah blah blah), when instead they should be looking inwards and pulling on that awesome creative and entrepreneurial spirit that made them become camgirls in the first place!
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:46 PM
Am I the only one reading this correctly? How can one quote me, and say "come get yours! Attract those men into your room and keep them there." Also, link me to a thread of things to do aka this thread...but "isn't" offering me help, giving me advice, or addressing me? Gosh, I must be seeing things. And you have gone into people's chat room to meet up with you and help them because they mentioned they weren't making much money, you've mentioned this yourself bb. Oh, and please stop playing the victim. You're on a public forum and I can quote you and direct any post I want to you because you choose to respond back. Let's not make it seem like I'm stalking your posts or bothering you because I'm not.
You're saying I'm going in people's rooms giving them advice. I have never done that before, or even said I was going to do that. I have NEVER done that. I once went in a girl's room and asked her if she got my PM bc the site went down, and to check it, tipped her, and left. That's about it. In the PM it was me asking her if she would like to meet up and cam with us because a few of us where in her area. That's about it. I still have the PM in my outbox. But its weird you even care.
I am replying in general. That is what SW is for. Giving advice and taking it. But I'm not giving you in particular advice. I have never even done that before.
I am done responding to you and JAC.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:48 PM
You don't have to respond to me, I couldn't care less bb. It just seems weird that you're quoting someone, but at the same time you're not speaking directly to them? Huh? If I quote someone, I'm speaking to them...but that's just my me. Take care.
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 08:48 PM
I'm not on MFC or sm, and I don't do Indy? .. I still completely agree that income is in our hands! I experience this every time I get on cam and when I watch others - site seems slow? Update your profile, add pics, swap your main pic, promote with twitter, forums, top sites, listing sites, buzz all your messenger contacts, add videos to your clip site with your cam link on... There's a million things we can do to bring traffic and therefore income!
Those who are bitter because they're not making money always look out wards (it's the sites fault, those other girls get given more traffic, they're escorts so of course they're more popular, she does taboo blah blah blah), when instead they should be looking inwards and pulling on that awesome creative and entrepreneurial spirit that made them become camgirls in the first place!
I really like that advice.