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Blovely
10-13-2013, 08:50 PM
some people just be plain rude in how they speak to others.
Agreed! Would like to add condescending as well.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 08:53 PM
Ladies, (those who care to read my post anyway) please understand that on those slow days, it's not just "you" who's the problem. I believe in spreading yourself out, trying other sites, and staying positive. Like Hayden mentioned, it's cool to take a breather, check your 'tude if that needs fixing, but just know that sometimes it's out of your hands. If at first you don't succeed, dust yourself off and try again.
LilyAnderson
10-13-2013, 08:56 PM
I've noticed threads have become less and less civil and more argumentative.
Everyone should be concerned with themselves and their own issues, not attacking others.
They either accept the advice and criticism, or they don't. It shouldn't become a blow out.
There are different points of view with every person on here. Your point of view is no better then another persons. Different things work for different people. Attacking each other just creates pointless drama.
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 09:20 PM
I've noticed threads have become less and less civil and more argumentative.
Everyone should be concerned with themselves and their own issues, not attacking others.
They either accept the advice and criticism, or they don't. It shouldn't become a blow out.
There are different points of view with every person on here. Your point of view is no better then another persons. Different things work for different people. Attacking each other just creates pointless drama.
i agree, i probably should stop posting because i can admit that i am frustrated as hell that people can not look at the other side of things.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE (HAVING SLOW DAYS - NOW I DONT HAVE THEM!!!!) SO I FEEL LIKE IT IS MY OBLIGATION TO HELP OTHERS BUT YOU CAN NOT HELP THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT IT OR ARE NOT READY FOR IT.
but whatever then believe what you want. i know what works for me...some heard my message...some did not. They have their own message "it's not you!! it must be the free videos they are giving out with gold shows!! guys don't need pvts anymore when they have lots of videos to watch!!" or whatever the hell excuse they can come up with. If I didn't see this soooooooooooo many times I could be more patient. I have cammed way too long, do you know how many HOURS I freaked out with my old cam friends when american girls were starting to cam in big numbers? for what? now I make more than ever but a lot of them were suffering (and I was for awhile) because they BELIEVED something effected them.
and like has no one realized someone is ALWAYS saying it slow? there is ALWAYS a slump according to someone and once someone says it everyone freaks out and it becomes a wildfire of ignorance.
People find more comfort in sympathy than the truth, that doesn't help in the big picture...but not everyone wants help gotta remember that. ;)
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 09:32 PM
Or perhaps they don't NEED your help. Maybe the things that you're swearing by doesn't work or isn't needed by them at all and that is okay too.
Blovely
10-13-2013, 09:35 PM
I've noticed threads have become less and less civil and more argumentative.
Everyone should be concerned with themselves and their own issues, not attacking others.
They either accept the advice and criticism, or they don't. It shouldn't become a blow out.
There are different points of view with every person on here. Your point of view is no better then another persons. Different things work for different people. Attacking each other just creates pointless drama.
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h0ttie
10-13-2013, 09:37 PM
Or perhaps they don't NEED your help. Maybe the things that you're swearing by doesn't work or isn't needed by them at all and that is okay too.
god lol i swear half of you wake up and eat a big bowl of delusion. did i say anyone NEEDED MY HELP? i said i felt like it was my obligation to help. you are in MY thread. I am not preaching at anyone in their threads about it being slow saying they need to listen to me.
buxxxom
10-13-2013, 09:41 PM
i agree, i probably should stop posting because i can admit that i am frustrated as hell that people can not look at the other side of things.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE (HAVING SLOW DAYS - NOW I DONT HAVE THEM!!!!) SO I FEEL LIKE IT IS MY OBLIGATION TO HELP OTHERS BUT YOU CAN NOT HELP THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT IT OR ARE NOT READY FOR IT.
but whatever then believe what you want. i know what works for me...some heard my message...some did not. They have their own message "it's not you!! it must be the free videos they are giving out with gold shows!! guys don't need pvts anymore when they have lots of videos to watch!!" or whatever the hell excuse they can come up with. If I didn't see this soooooooooooo many times I could be more patient. I have cammed way too long, do you know how many HOURS I freaked out with my old cam friends when american girls were starting to cam in big numbers? for what? now I make more than ever but a lot of them were suffering (and I was for awhile) because they BELIEVED something effected them.
and like has no one realized someone is ALWAYS saying it slow? there is ALWAYS a slump according to someone and once someone says it everyone freaks out and it becomes a wildfire of ignorance.
People find more comfort in sympathy than the truth, that doesn't help in the big picture...but not everyone wants help gotta remember that. ;)
h0ttie, I took your advice last night and I made nothing on MFC. Maybe you don't have slow days anymore because you've been doing this for a long time and now you have a sizable following. I see a shit ton of advice in this thread for "things to do when it is slow." Some sites are slow and no amount of positivity is going to produce traffic. You can fuck yourself with the biggest dildo you have with a Joker style grin and no one is necessarily going to drop a dime. No one ever suggested that it's never your fault or that you shouldn't consider what more you can do, but there are some things that we can't control. There will be slow days for some and then we will adjust. We will get on twitter, tumblr, try another site, whatever. That's what I did last night. I went to SM because I wasn't making dick on MFC. IT WAS SLOW. I WAS POSITIVE AS HELL AND IT WAS SLOW. Few members, none with tokens. None of them were even talking. I thought I would make some damn good money and I didn't make anything. My positivity did not bring the traffic, so I went and looked for it elsewhere. Your advice does not work for everyone. Plain and simple.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 09:43 PM
god lol i swear half of you wake up and eat a big bowl of delusion. did i say anyone NEEDED MY HELP? i said i felt like it was my obligation to help. you are in MY thread. I am not preaching at anyone in their threads about it being slow saying they need to listen to me.
You are the only one getting frustrated bb. It's okay.
[email protected] "Your thread"- Wow. The thirst is real. You're not preaching, but you're yelling haha. I think you're the delusional one, everyone doesn't have to agree with you.
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 09:47 PM
Oh hey I just noticed something. There is a strong correlation between positivity and making money. And a strong correlation between negativity and not making money.
Thanks for starting this positive thread h0ttie. Even if that isn't how it turned out. These are motivating IMO.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 09:48 PM
h0ttie, I took your advice last night and I made nothing on MFC. Maybe you don't have slow days anymore because you've been doing this for a long time and now you have a sizable following. I see a shit ton of advice in this thread for "things to do when it is slow." Some sites are slow and no amount of positivity is going to produce traffic. You can fuck yourself with the biggest dildo you have with a Joker style grin and no one is necessarily going to drop a dime. No one ever suggested that it's never your fault or that you shouldn't consider what more you can do, but there are some things that we can't control. There will be slow days for some and then we will adjust. We will get on twitter, tumblr, try another site, whatever. That's what I did last night. I went to SM because I wasn't making dick on MFC. IT WAS SLOW. I WAS POSITIVE AS HELL AND IT WAS SLOW. Few members, none with tokens. None of them were even talking. I thought I would make some damn good money and I didn't make anything. My positivity did not bring the traffic, so I went and looked for it elsewhere. Your advice does not work for everyone. Plain and simple.
I've been saying this same thing, it's not going to get through to her, I think she had a bowl of delusion this morning.
CourtneyRaine
10-13-2013, 09:50 PM
This.... this is just getting ridiculous. Cheers and g'night, bbs :)
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h0ttie
10-13-2013, 09:50 PM
h0ttie, I took your advice last night and I made nothing on MFC. Maybe you don't have slow days anymore because you've been doing this for a long time and now you have a sizable following. I see a shit ton of advice in this thread for "things to do when it is slow." Some sites are slow and no amount of positivity is going to produce traffic. You can fuck yourself with the biggest dildo you have with a Joker style grin and no one is necessarily going to drop a dime. No one ever suggested that it's never your fault or that you shouldn't consider what more you can do, but there are some things that we can't control. There will be slow days for some and then we will adjust. We will get on twitter, tumblr, try another site, whatever. That's what I did last night. I went to SM because I wasn't making dick on MFC. IT WAS SLOW. I WAS POSITIVE AS HELL AND IT WAS SLOW. Few members, none with tokens. None of them were even talking. I thought I would make some damn good money and I didn't make anything. My positivity did not bring the traffic, so I went and looked for it elsewhere. Your advice does not work for everyone. Plain and simple.
i have 0 following. i have like no regulars because i do not try to maintain them, i like new $$$. i do not have a twitter or promote myself.
if people were not speaking in your room i will say it had something to do with you...not just that everyone on the site forgot how to type..and if people don't have tokens so what? make them buy them.
my advice will not work for those who do not MAKE it work for them
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 09:53 PM
And how do you think people should "make" it work? She just said to you that what you said DID NOT WORK FOR HER. So now what? There are some guys who think you're so beautiful that they'd rather stare at you then actually say anything. Some women intimidate men.
buxxxom
10-13-2013, 09:53 PM
i have 0 following. i have like no regulars because i do not try to maintain them, i like new $$$. i do not have a twitter or promote myself.
if people were not speaking in your room i will say it had something to do with you...not just that everyone on the site forgot how to type..and if people don't have tokens so what? make them buy them.
my advice will not work for those who do not MAKE it work for them
So then you're admitting that you're initial post about being positive and the traffic will be there is bullshit? That it takes more than just thinking you are going to do awesome? All right, cool.
LilyAnderson
10-13-2013, 09:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 09:56 PM
Some of us just need to agree to disagree. Do what works for you. That's all you can do.
Thymian
10-13-2013, 09:59 PM
i have like no regulars because i do not try to maintain them, i like new $$$.
Wow, so glad to hear that. I have been wondering if I was the only one who likes new custies. It kind of goes against conventional wisdom but for some reason new money makes me really happy though it all spends the same, LOL.
LilyAnderson
10-13-2013, 10:01 PM
Does everybody look good as a blonde? No.
Does everybody look good skinny? No.
Does everybody look good with lipstick? No.
Does everybody look good with bright colors? No.
"Redheads look good so they make more money."
"Everybody makes more money because they are skinny."
"She's wearing dark lipstick and is successful, so I must do the same."
"Oh, this girl is wearing a bright pink shirt. No wonder she's doing better then me."
As Kourt said,
"Do what works for you."
Stop being your own worst enemy.
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 10:02 PM
So then you're admitting that you're initial post about being positive and the traffic will be there is bullshit? That it takes more than just thinking you are going to do awesome? All right, cool.
lol what do u want? do you want me to tell you awww ur right its been so bad!! u will do better soon!! u know its football season and then oh christmas is coming up so guys will have to save for that. its not you, it will get better!
I AM SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CONTROL SOMETHING TO CONTROL IT. simple
Blovely
10-13-2013, 10:12 PM
i have 0 following. i have like no regulars because i do not try to maintain them, i like new $$$. i do not have a twitter or promote myself.
if people were not speaking in your room i will say it had something to do with you...not just that everyone on the site forgot how to type..and if people don't have tokens so what? make them buy them.
my advice will not work for those who do not MAKE it work for them
Now I'm a little confused. Doesn't that mean that you solely rely on the sites traffic then?
Wouldn't having regulars, promoting yourself on twitter and other places be taking control an be more inline with "YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CONTROL SOMETHING TO CONTROL IT".
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 10:16 PM
Now I'm a little confused. Doesn't that mean that you solely rely on the sites traffic then?
Wouldn't having regulars, promoting yourself on twitter and other places be taking control an be more inline with "YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CONTROL SOMETHING TO CONTROL IT".
no my main point is about controlling your mindset. that is the main factor in making money (at least according to my experiences).
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 10:20 PM
Now I'm a little confused. Doesn't that mean that you solely rely on the sites traffic then?
Wouldn't having regulars, promoting yourself on twitter and other places be taking control an be more inline with "YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CONTROL SOMETHING TO CONTROL IT".
Here is what I don't get. And I really don't understand this...
h0ttie is busy back-to-back for like 12 hour long stints so she doesn't need to do self-promotion. She is making what she wants for the most part. But how come some others girls who also rely 100% on the site's traffic don't make a lot then? Like both girls here (h0ttie and one not doing well) are getting the same treatment, and working with the same factors and site conditions. One is doing very well and one is not.
So wouldn't that mean that, the money is there, just some girls can't keep spenders in the room? And why is that? Their attitude or (lack of) charisma on cam? Because that is the only thing I can think of that is the difference between, for example, h0ttie and someone not doing well. h0ttie, for example, would prove that there IS money and spenders on the site.
This is a serious question.
kortneykay
10-13-2013, 10:44 PM
Here is what I don't get. And I really don't understand this...
h0ttie is busy back-to-back for like 12 hour long stints so she doesn't need to do self-promotion. She is making what she wants for the most part. But how come some others girls who also rely 100% on the site's traffic don't make a lot then? Like both girls here (h0ttie and one not doing well) are getting the same treatment, and working with the same factors and site conditions. One is doing very well and one is not.
So wouldn't that mean that, the money is there, just some girls can't keep spenders in the room? And why is that? Their attitude or (lack of) charisma on cam? Because that is the only thing I can think of that is the difference between, for example, h0ttie and someone not doing well. h0ttie, for example, would prove that there IS money and spenders on the site.
This is a serious question.
Hottie has been camming for 4 years. Hottie doesn't look like the other girl and the other girl doesn't have the same hustle as Hottie so that alone can cause a difference in who makes what money. One cam girl can't be compared to the next. You can't compare me, a black BBW to hottie. I'm also in the US. Does hottie have an accent? I'm just wondering...
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 10:56 PM
Everyone looks different. h0ttie is in the US and no accent, but I think she can speak for herself.
Also, hasn't everyone just been saying over and over change your attitude and hustle til you make money because that's what everyone whose doing well did?
SweetNoelle
10-13-2013, 10:59 PM
I'm extremely new and I'm not trying to get into a debate that I don't belong, I just wanted to take an objective look at this.
I'm honestly confused why everyone is so upset. I only read the original post, and then all the pages of drama afterwards, but... It seems like what h0ttie is mentioning in the original post correlates to the Law of Attraction. When I was a stripper, we all LIVED for the Law of Attraction. It wasn't looked at as a negative thing at ALL, in fact, if anything it was positive because it would motivate us to be the best that we could be, as people, as women, and as strippers. The Law of Attraction is more or less that if you believe something strongly enough, and there is no inkling doubt in the back of your mind, it will manifest for you. Some people take that to mean that if they tell themselves over and over again, "I AM HOT, I WILL MAKE MONEY, MEN WILL LOVE ME," but they don't truly feel it in their bones inside and out, it will still happen. This isn't the case. Your subconscious has to believe it as strongly as your conscious does.
So I mean, of course when you first start, it isn't going to happen... It takes practice. It takes time and commitment to make yourself believe these things so strongly that they begin to manifest. But that's what makes it such a positive and wonderful practice! Because instead of staying negative and feeling hopeless because you feel like things are out of your control, you can finally look within yourself and make a commitment to yourself to change and shine from the inside out. NO, it doesn't happen right away! So of course, when you're first starting, there are going to be bad days! But doesn't it sound wonderful to slowly start teaching yourself to build up a confidence within yourself that's so strong that nothing can tear it down? The bad days DO disappear after time!
I don't think that h0ttie's original post was mean or finger pointing at all. If I'm reading it right, she's trying to tell everyone to build confidence in yourself. Eventually teach your subconscious itself to love everything about yourself, and eventually, that DOES pay off and manifest great things for you. I don't see what's so hurtful about that. And what's the worst that can happen? Take accountability for your monetary results, make a commitment to yourself to try to manifest NOTHING but positive energy, and see results. And if she's wrong and practicing the Law of Attraction doesn't work for you, you still are rewarded with a deeper love and acceptance of yourself. There's no losing here.
No one can learn how to harness the Law of Attraction in a day. Everyone arguing that "I tried that and it didn't work," well... You just started your journey! But you're one day into it now, so why not keep trying? :) Why not, after every cam session, at least TRY to think, "alright, that didn't go how I planned... Why is that? What could I have changed?" Don't be negative; it actually feels good to know that you're in control of everything, and that means that all you have to do is keep trying, keep looking inward, and keep evolving. Maybe some days are slower than others, and maybe yes, that was outside of your control... But I believe that even if that's the case, still taking the time to study each and every cam session and ponder what little things you could have changed to be more successful during that broadcast can bring nothing but improvement.
I'm sorry if I'm getting the wrong idea off of everything, but... From what I read, that's just kind of how I feel... I'm sorry if I'm out of line, and I hope I didn't offend everyone. I just feel like there's so many positives that could be focused on, instead of letting ourselves get bogged down with hopelessness.
GlamourRouge
10-13-2013, 11:01 PM
I love the law of attraction. Sometimes me and h0ttie repeat mantras while working or watching law of attraction videos on youtube. I swear its the key.
Law of attraction is the EXACT same thing as prayer, positive thinking, voodoo, witchcraft, and quantum mechanics. They all work the same way, but are culture-specific.
h0ttie
10-13-2013, 11:16 PM
Hottie has been camming for 4 years. Hottie doesn't look like the other girl and the other girl doesn't have the same hustle as Hottie so that alone can cause a difference in who makes what money. One cam girl can't be compared to the next. You can't compare me, a black BBW to hottie. I'm also in the US. Does hottie have an accent? I'm just wondering...
i have been camming 6 years. this thread is 2 years old someone bumped it. and you are just making excuses still, I was fat as hell when I made this post so i can say body size/shape whatever is IRRELEVANT (unless you make it relevant-thinking it matters) and I don't use my mic on cam..do you have an accent you want to blame your slow days on? or do you assume i have an advantage because i have a sexxxxayyy accent? why are u asking that?
there are not "special circumstances" for me. I only work hard and hold myself responsible when I have a bad day, and always always alwaysssss keep improving. I can't comment on the black thing because I am not black but there are top camgirls that are black...sooooo I would guess race doesn't matter unless you decide it does.
SweetNoelle
10-13-2013, 11:22 PM
I love the law of attraction. Sometimes me and h0ttie repeat mantras while working or watching law of attraction videos on youtube. I swear its the key.
Law of attraction is the EXACT same thing as prayer, positive thinking, voodoo, witchcraft, and quantum mechanics. They all work the same way, but are culture-specific.
Yeah, I'm a really big fan myself. Like I said, the other strippers I worked with and I would constantly be talking about it in the dressing room, giving each other positive feedback, and even swapping books about it. It is NOT a practice about blaming oneself, it's a practice of taking accountability, loving oneself, and manifesting what you want. It's incredibly healing and ends up creating an incredible feeling of self confidence. I can see why some people got upset with the original post, and I think somewhere along the lines the point of the message was lost, but I truly believe that really the main point of the OP was, "Ladies, you're a motherfucking queen, I know it, you know it, you can make however much money YOU want to, so let's start today and stop blaming the world for not handing us our crown. TAKE THAT MOTHA' FUCKA' BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT."
Okay now I feel overdramatic, but whatever. :)
Snowy0Star
10-13-2013, 11:41 PM
ok... fuck guys damn near 3 pages of bittering... :/ i just spent the last half hour reading all this. and wow... im glad i just spent all night on CB and came on to check my email / new posted threads. for those of you who have tried taking hotties advice and it didnt magically work and believe in the law of attraction or wondering about it this is why - ive read the secret ive read the law of attraction and ive bought a few courses and ebooks on the subject of manifestation/law of attraction.
------and now im going to sound like a nutjob------
it takes awhile for it to work about 2-3 months because EVERYTHING in the universe is just a fuck-ton of waves and vibrations going back and forth . if u've been putting out negative thoughts/energy thats what your going to get back the same negative things until you can make "the source" give you back nothing but positiveness and that takes about 2-3 months for all the bad to counteract the good. in quantum physics there's an energy field one course i bought called it 'the source' its pretty much what takes and gives us everything we give it and makes the law of attraction work.
if your having a really hard manifesting anything and not tripping out all the time panicking worrying etc your chakras could be off balance. like i said everything on the universe is energy flowing back and forth our chakras are what balances and maintains the energy and wavelengths in humans.
witch makes perfect sense why i cant fucking make more then barely enuf to get by .i haven't had the best life and ive always felt like something has been off / wrong with me and i thought just by thinking better and changing how i think things will get better but theyre getting a little better but not enuf to make a huge difference so i hope things start changing for me once i do this work in this program im about to start .
Snowy0Star
10-13-2013, 11:50 PM
this thread is 2 years old someone bumped it.
raises hand and hides under a desk ....
bootiebabe
10-14-2013, 04:42 AM
We are all so different and have niches so cannot compare ourselves to some. Some girls also are part time cammers so are fresh meat to some guys each time they come on.
Also depends on what site you are working AW for example is big money in the evenings and weekends (uk time) i can only do weekdays and unless you have a whole host of regulars you DO have SLOW days, men are fickle and will go from girl to girl, the beauty of aw you can play them, so if they fall in love with you you can milk the fuck out of them and string them along. Each time i worked a night or weekend the money was great but weekdays did slow down they just have not the traffic US sites do.
I am a front page model on sm and make in a few hours sometimes 3 what i would make in 7 long hours on aw.
This is not a vanilla job we become greedy, we have to remember what we would be making in a vanilla job compared to what we are making even on a slowwwwwww day.
That said even front page placement have slow days and sometimes there is NOT as much PAYING cock as there are freeloaders but we should all still be able to bank more than we would in the vanilla world.
If i am in a bad mood and trust me i have real bad mood days unless that is the guys thing i do SUCK on cam i do a lot worse all be it a lot of guys get off on that and it sometimes pays off me being an utter bitch. That being said even when i am bright and bubbly it can at times STILL be slow. we will all have those days and it makes it worse some days when you really want x amount and your only going to get much less which is why the next day your need to work at it harder to even out threw out the week.
I am tied to my hours due to having children but i know 100 percent if i could work different hours around the clock i would be pulling in more money as i would be chilling in the suckish slow hours and go back on again when its picked up.
As for low prices yes we all love a bargain but sometimes in the sales there is a whole lot of shit so you dont buy in the sales and rather pay full price for something that is going to be more appealing to you. So the girls fucking they arse for silly money are not really making things hard for us, its just cheap guys wanting to pay cheap and they are not the guys i really want to attract.
i get "oh your prices are too high" enough times, hey thats fine fella, then move the fuck along to someone else!
I am beating myself up right now as i need a high goal each day which somedays is NOT possible especially when your hours are set and you cannot work other hours to make up for it, but i will at least bank on a shit day $156 take home in 2 - 3 hours now can we say that in a vanilla job???
There are hours i have made $12 dollars and i am like wtf!!! there slowwwwwww days but we need to stick it out log off come back on and milk them be positive.
I will agree placement if a big factor with sm, my placement has been all over for the past 4 days and it has effected me but i still reach my lower goal.
I still love sm we can all make a killing on there, the girls that do gold shows and dont get to goal if your still doing them regardless it all adds up threw out the day.
Lets stay positive and remember we are so very different dome/nerdy/busty/porn star/bbw etc etc you cannot compare as there so different but there are guys out there wanting that particular girl that will pay time and time again. Fuck the slow days lets think of those blinding days on the brag thread we al have them, many keep quiet about them.
We are all in this together girls with one goal to milk the cock and bank :) xx
sexysusie
10-14-2013, 05:10 AM
Can I just speak up for the NONE secret/ law of attraction fans (since those principles are much older and can do without the commercial bullshit)? This advice is STILL very true and valid. Simple positivity and a can-do attitude changes everything.
Ps if you're not making money on mfc move sites. Not everyone can make it there. Why kill yourself when there are other options!
Noelle_Noir
10-14-2013, 05:49 AM
Everyone is fighting and shit and I am like....
35187
I love WEEEEEEED! Lets all just agree too disagree,everyone has been on bitchmode! Lets all just mellow out a bit.;D
Noelle_Noir
10-14-2013, 05:59 AM
Can I just speak up for the NONE secret/ law of attraction fans (since those principles are much older and can do without the commercial bullshit)? This advice is STILL very true and valid. Simple positivity and a can-do attitude changes everything.
Ps if you're not making money on mfc move sites. Not everyone can make it there. Why kill yourself when there are other options!
You are so right,positive is king. I have been listening too this for a bit and it is so trippy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Wmf9nmHuo...I think its working!
I have a lot of really shitty things going on in my real life right now and I am still positive and optimistic.Attitude is everything and consistency,like it was said before "real businesses don't just shut down because its a crap day" .
I know what my issue is,its getting on according too the scheduled I created I have so much going on that it almost never happens.
justanothercamgirl
10-14-2013, 06:36 AM
You are so right,positive is king.
For the life of me, I will never get the whole Law of Attraction/positivity thing.
For me, it isn't positivity that is king. My king is personal responsibility.
justanothercamgirl
10-14-2013, 06:40 AM
We just can't have a thread that features Law of Attract without me posting this link. It is like a Stripperweb tradition by now. ;)
Smile or Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo
kittykrane
10-14-2013, 07:26 AM
i have 0 following. i have like no regulars because i do not try to maintain them, i like new $$$. i do not have a twitter or promote myself.
if people were not speaking in your room i will say it had something to do with you...not just that everyone on the site forgot how to type..and if people don't have tokens so what? make them buy them.
my advice will not work for those who do not MAKE it work for them
I briefly tried Twitter and a personal site that offered SKYPE shows. For me personally, both were overall a waste of time. I couldn't remember to keep up. I don't do anything either than give great shows that keep regs coming back and new ones finding me too. That's it.
sexysusie
10-14-2013, 08:09 AM
... I'm not American.
Positivity works because you feel good.. and when you feel good, you notice the positive aspects around you. It's a knock on effect like falling dominos. It's not so simplistic as smile and you'll get money. It's also not as simplistic as "you can't just 'think' yourself successful". Actually you can. But you need to employ a positive attitude along with practical steps towards the goal.
The idea of positivity was around long before the corporate world, but yes it does tie in. Of course productivity is increased when outward displays of negativity are replaced with can-do principles of positivity/ onwards and upwards/ best foot forwards (I know this, I'm British - we're famous for the stiff upper lip!). Corporate environments, and those in them excel when using these principles as techniques. Never has "fake it to make it" held so much importance as in the corporate environment.
However, those same principles do not become less valuable because of the association with commercialism. If anything, the fact that they have been SO successful there, should be the impetus you need to really study the idea for yourself.
I'm having a hard time explaining what I really mean, but the gist of it is that whether you think positively as a technique, or simply because you base your camming times around when you're naturally in an 'up' mood, you will be in a better position to view your time spent as successful. You will notice things you do not usually notice, such as the new guys coming in to see you, the compliment you haven't had before, the unexpectedly hitch-free cam stream, the fact that you managed to film a clip while you were working etc.
It's not that these things are necessarily 'extra' or your night went better than usual, it's simply that you didn't pay attention to these things before because you were so focused on making/ not making money, having traffic/ not having traffic. Now that your positive mindset has opened your eyes to the little things that you usually don't notice, you will notice them more, and it will seem like they happen more. The pleasure you feel each time you have these realizations will become reward in itself and you will consciously seek to reproduce the behaviours or mindset that brought about the pleasure, therein beginning to make things happen. Your worldview changes from need/ frustration to recognition/ openness, which frees you to begin taking the practical steps you need to take in conjunction with the positive attitude. When both are in place, you're in the best position possible to achieve whatever you set out to.
I hope I'm not coming across as my way or the high way. I appreciate many people will see this as too black/ white or too abstract to work for them. But I'm trying to explain from my perspective and experience, why the op's point is valid "to me".
justanothercamgirl
10-14-2013, 08:18 AM
Why is it that the people who are on board with the 'positivity philosophy' (is that even a thing? I just wanted to come up with something that would include both 'The Secret' and anything else that isn't) are unwilling to concede that Realism has merit too?
The argument I keep trying to make that people then try to side track me from (and then accuse me of not staying on point) is that, yes how you see a situation can affect the outcome of the situation -- but you don't need to add the concept of 'positivity, negativity or fault' to achieve the same gains.
Does that make sense?
The only comparison I really can make is to Buddhism. Buddhism treats a belief as one would a raft, it is used to get one to the other side, but it is not an end in itself.
sexysusie
10-14-2013, 08:31 AM
Which definition of realism are you talking about, since realism itself is a concept, and cannot be quantifiably measured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism
Going with the first (arts) defininition of realism, I am trying to depict things accurately from all 3 -visual (I've seen it in action), social (I've seen others), and emotional (I feel it works for me) perspective.
If I watch a news report about a horrible crime that took place, no amount of positive thinking on my part can change what happened (realism). But if I'm beginning to feel I'm having a bad night on cam, positive thinking CAN change that, because it's something I am in control of (realism).
I think perhaps the argument here is not about positive/ negative thinking, but control?
justanothercamgirl
10-14-2013, 09:27 AM
Which definition of realism are you talking about, since realism itself is a concept, and cannot be quantifiably measured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism
Going with the first (arts) defininition of realism, I am trying to depict things accurately from all 3 -visual (I've seen it in action), social (I've seen others), and emotional (I feel it works for me) perspective.
If I watch a news report about a horrible crime that took place, no amount of positive thinking on my part can change what happened (realism). But if I'm beginning to feel I'm having a bad night on cam, positive thinking CAN change that, because it's something I am in control of (realism).
I think perhaps the argument here is not about positive/ negative thinking, but control?
I am using the definition as it is defined in this video
Smile or Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo
justanothercamgirl
10-14-2013, 09:36 AM
Which definition of realism are you talking about, since realism itself is a concept, and cannot be quantifiably measured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism
Going with the first (arts) defininition of realism, I am trying to depict things accurately from all 3 -visual (I've seen it in action), social (I've seen others), and emotional (I feel it works for me) perspective.
If I watch a news report about a horrible crime that took place, no amount of positive thinking on my part can change what happened (realism). But if I'm beginning to feel I'm having a bad night on cam, positive thinking CAN change that, because it's something I am in control of (realism).
I think perhaps the argument here is not about positive/ negative thinking, but control?
Control when used while describing the concept of human thought is a word that is really not applicable based on the scientific fact that we do not have total control over our thoughts.
Thought are based on a bio-chemical electrical system that we can never have total control over.
It is like the sea. One can not control the direction that the wind blows but one can adjust one's sails accordingly to get to where one wants to go.
To assume that because you can adjust your sails means that you have total control over the wind would be a very dangerous assumption to make.
sexysusie
10-14-2013, 10:12 AM
Thought are based on a bio-chemical electrical system that we can never have total control over.
We do have some control over our neural pathways actually. This is how habits and memories are formed, and how behaviour changes over time. Neural pathways are strengthened through repetition (a process of synaptic pruning), and can change altogether through new experiences.
It's hard to stomach that ideas we don't personally like have a basis in fact, but you will find that most any idea that sticks around and is successful in various areas DOES have validity. The very fact that it comes around again and again in various new guises is testament to that.
For an interesting introduction to the field of neuro-biology and neuro-psychology and how they relate to this have a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity
Glamourmilf
10-14-2013, 10:23 AM
^^Susie, Do You think that's how Kate got William?
sexysusie
10-14-2013, 10:58 AM
Lol! Who knows? She'd certainly need a sunny outlook to cope with the demands of being part of that family!
Vlodina
10-14-2013, 11:18 AM
St Andrews is a small place, and there's limited choice. ^
kortneykay
10-14-2013, 01:31 PM
That and she's not a total pauper. She's white, and her parents are dot comanaires. I see that Harry might just get wifed up too lol.
GlamourRouge
10-14-2013, 03:45 PM
Everyone is fighting and shit and I am like....
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I love WEEEEEEED! Lets all just agree too disagree,everyone has been on bitchmode! Lets all just mellow out a bit.;D
I was unaware you could tell someone's race by their posting. I'm actually a halfsie. I look persian anyway. h0ttie is too I believe?
Aside from that, positivity works because it causes you to have positive body language. People subconsciously trust body language more than words. And before you even speak. So unless you are a wonderful actress, not being positive usually hurts you when you are working. What customer wants to spend on someone who is clearly not enjoying herself? Even as a domme, its still important.
GlamourRouge
10-14-2013, 03:58 PM
We do have some control over our neural pathways actually. This is how habits and memories are formed, and how behaviour changes over time. Neural pathways are strengthened through repetition (a process of synaptic pruning), and can change altogether through new experiences.
It's hard to stomach that ideas we don't personally like have a basis in fact, but you will find that most any idea that sticks around and is successful in various areas DOES have validity. The very fact that it comes around again and again in various new guises is testament to that.
For an interesting introduction to the field of neuro-biology and neuro-psychology and how they relate to this have a look here
Its actually true! Before I was a cam girl, I did a stint in a neurobehavioral research lab. We were working on a long project and it ended up spanning like 2 years. We were looking at the effect that a certain natural compound in the body, and thought it might actually be a neurotoxin in large doses. We were looking on the effect it had on the body and the mind.
There was a city with this power plant in it that gave off that chemical in high doses. It even leaked into the river nearby. Everyone in this area knew about it, and so everyone started complaining of random symptoms like they were sick from it. We thought it might cause Parkinson's disease or similar symptoms, hence our research.
The results of our research was... there is NO link between that chemical in high doses and Parkinson's disease or similar symptoms. So I would theorize that a lot of the people living there ~*heard*~ in the media and from other people around the city that the chemical was making them all sick, so a lot of them randomly developed those symptoms! Its so crazy that that is how the brain works. It can make people sick just when they THINK they are sick!