View Full Version : The real reason it's slow
~Carmen~
10-15-2013, 02:12 PM
I personally find you to be highly positive. I think they confuse being honest and talking openly about subjects as being negative and it isn't. The point of this forum is to share thoughts and idea's and no one should feel attacked on here period. If you don't agree with someone then just disagree and move on. I will never get the constant arguing or trying to force people to do what you suggest. What works for you may not work for them.
I also think posting personal shit on here was and is out of line. This isn't high school and adults should know better. You handeled it really well.
Agreed! I must say, I have always admired how diplomatic you are JAC.
Incantatious
10-15-2013, 11:18 PM
I'll just sum up my personal opinion on the law of attraction with an extreme example: No amount of following the law of attraction will bring food to those starving in third world countries. Something physical and substantial actually needs to be done about that, and if the law of attraction worked, we'd be able to tell them about the law of attraction so they can simply think positively and they'll get food via the law of attraction. My honest opinion is that unless food actually is near them, (and they think positive and find the food that was already there), no amount of positive thinking is going to simply "magic" food into existence there, because of what went on in their brains.
In my opinion, for camming or stripping - despite it being true to some extent that our results are dependent on our mood and positivity - it isn't just as predictable or black and white as that. There are more factors to take into account. For us camgirls: ~ e.g. What if a highly-paying reg isn't online one night? "but... I'm feeling so positive tonight about that reg! So why is he not here!? I'm clearly not thinking positively enough / doing it right..." ~ He might just be doing something else. Maybe he's washing the dishes because he forgot to do them last night. Maybe he just plain isn't horny that night - that's not your fault. But it's like the law of attraction - for all the positivity it wants to boast of - is actually extremely blaming for things that are not always in your control or your fault.
One example used by a proponent of the law of attraction is that (quote) "if a person opened an envelope expecting to see a bill, then the law of attraction would "confirm" those thoughts and contain a bill when opened. A person who decided to instead expect a cheque might, under the same law, find a cheque instead of a bill" (from Wikipedia). ~ This sounds like magic to me; impossible, in my opinion.
In my understanding, it just isn't possible to alter the actual fabric of reality with our brains to manipulate what people and things do. It sounds absolutely amazing, but how is it scientifically explainable? As I've said before, I can only understand part of this in the sense of actually physically doing things: An act of positivity as, say, posting a positive message on Twitter altering my fans that I'm on cam. Maybe my reg will get a notification on his phone of my tweet whilst he's doing the dishes, read it, get horny thinking about me, and come online to spend some time and $ with me. If I were not feeling so positive, perhaps I wouldn't do that, thus ~ my positivity in the sense I described, could make my hopes manifest in reality if I actually acted on that positivity rather than simply think.
This all seems to make people accuse each other of not having the thing they want, despite any honest attempts they've made... It seems to be extremely black and white in it's method: "Be happy! Think positive! And you'll get what you want!"
But what about if you don't get what you want?
The Law of Attraction seems to say: "You're not trying hard enough, thus your current awful situation is your own dayam fault, girlfriend!", which is extremely controversial, extremely inconsiderate of the bigger picture that person lives in, very personally intrusive, and possibly also - extremely detrimental to their positivity. If the horrible arguments in this thread are demonstrative of anything, it is that strength of blame.
Anyone who knows me here, already knows I'm all for camgirls actually being real with themselves about when "times are slow", etc, and we all know there are those who go on cam with a shitty attitude only to come offline wondering "why is it so slow?!" when... idk.. you just feel like.. uhh.. it should be obvious.. it's the attitude? O_o But the bottom line is, if a new thought belief system like this works for you, by all means do it, enjoy it, celebrate it, indulge in it! but to start actually measuring the success of other people against it, and blaming them for their situation - because you believe that belief system - just seems quite... idk.. negative.
My intention isn't to start any flame wars or heated debates with this, just weighing in with my own opinion. :3
gingerstripper
10-16-2013, 12:25 AM
Shit son...my mind just exploded..
kortneykay
10-16-2013, 08:52 AM
I'll just sum up my personal opinion on the law of attraction with an extreme example: No amount of following the law of attraction will bring food to those starving in third world countries. Something physical and substantial actually needs to be done about that, and if the law of attraction worked, we'd be able to tell them about the law of attraction so they can simply think positively and they'll get food via the law of attraction. My honest opinion is that unless food actually is near them, (and they think positive and find the food that was already there), no amount of positive thinking is going to simply "magic" food into existence there, because of what went on in their brains.
In my opinion, for camming or stripping - despite it being true to some extent that our results are dependent on our mood and positivity - it isn't just as predictable or black and white as that. There are more factors to take into account. For us camgirls: ~ e.g. What if a highly-paying reg isn't online one night? "but... I'm feeling so positive tonight about that reg! So why is he not here!? I'm clearly not thinking positively enough / doing it right..." ~ He might just be doing something else. Maybe he's washing the dishes because he forgot to do them last night. Maybe he just plain isn't horny that night - that's not your fault. But it's like the law of attraction - for all the positivity it wants to boast of - is actually extremely blaming for things that are not always in your control or your fault.
One example used by a proponent of the law of attraction is that (quote) "if a person opened an envelope expecting to see a bill, then the law of attraction would "confirm" those thoughts and contain a bill when opened. A person who decided to instead expect a cheque might, under the same law, find a cheque instead of a bill" (from Wikipedia). ~ This sounds like magic to me; impossible, in my opinion.
In my understanding, it just isn't possible to alter the actual fabric of reality with our brains to manipulate what people and things do. It sounds absolutely amazing, but how is it scientifically explainable? As I've said before, I can only understand part of this in the sense of actually physically doing things: An act of positivity as, say, posting a positive message on Twitter altering my fans that I'm on cam. Maybe my reg will get a notification on his phone of my tweet whilst he's doing the dishes, read it, get horny thinking about me, and come online to spend some time and $ with me. If I were not feeling so positive, perhaps I wouldn't do that, thus ~ my positivity in the sense I described, could make my hopes manifest in reality if I actually acted on that positivity rather than simply think.
This all seems to make people accuse each other of not having the thing they want, despite any honest attempts they've made... It seems to be extremely black and white in it's method: "Be happy! Think positive! And you'll get what you want!"
But what about if you don't get what you want?
The Law of Attraction seems to say: "You're not trying hard enough, thus your current awful situation is your own dayam fault, girlfriend!", which is extremely controversial, extremely inconsiderate of the bigger picture that person lives in, very personally intrusive, and possibly also - extremely detrimental to their positivity. If the horrible arguments in this thread are demonstrative of anything, it is that strength of blame.
Anyone who knows me here, already knows I'm all for camgirls actually being real with themselves about when "times are slow", etc, and we all know there are those who go on cam with a shitty attitude only to come offline wondering "why is it so slow?!" when... idk.. you just feel like.. uhh.. it should be obvious.. it's the attitude? O_o But the bottom line is, if a new thought belief system like this works for you, by all means do it, enjoy it, celebrate it, indulge in it! but to start actually measuring the success of other people against it, and blaming them for their situation - because you believe that belief system - just seems quite... idk.. negative.
My intention isn't to start any flame wars or heated debates with this, just weighing in with my own opinion. :3
I know that you're all the way in England, but if I could hop on a plane (thinks positively) I would KISS you right now! I couldn't have said it better bb!
Rosemary Rabbit
10-16-2013, 10:09 AM
I'll just sum up my personal opinion on the law of attraction with an extreme example: No amount of following the law of attraction will bring food to those starving in third world countries.
bran so hot bb, mmmm. open. open. open bran.
I know that you're all the way in England, but if I could hop on a plane (thinks positively) I would KISS you right now! I couldn't have said it better bb!
I think we all want a hot makeout sesh with this brilliant crumpet!
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kortneykay
10-17-2013, 06:50 AM
Lusty, my intentions weren't to bash anyone for their beliefs. This thread wasn't about Negative vs. Positive. I just didn't intend for anyone to bash my beliefs/reasoning which is where the thread derailed with me personally. Believe what you want to believe, just don't knock anyone else's hustle or pretend that what they believe is outlandish is all I ask. If this thread was titled "Positive XYZ" things would've been different. But to label something with an opinion of why it's slow, you're going to have differing opinions. If you're going to come on cc and make up your mind that you have the "key" to why things are slow, then throw in your opinion, people have the right to agree or disagree. It doesn't mean that they are negative, they just don't agree with the title and the body of the thread. Every experience is different and isn't always based on simple things as "negative vs. positive". I'll leave it at that, have a profitable day.
Incantatious
10-17-2013, 07:52 AM
At one time, this was an amazing thread.
I can also post other Law of attraction/positivity threads that have been derailed in CC.
Why it is such a big problem if some girls have a positive outlook on things.
If any of you feel that negativity fuels your earnings each week, then why not start a separate thread on the subject? "My negativity makes me money because......... "
I firmly believe in LOA, and I'm kinda tired of it being bashed every time it is brought up.
Well there is quite a substantial difference between believing in the law of attraction, and having a positive outlook on things. ~ You could be the most positive person in the world, but not believe in the law of attraction. And people generally really don't have a problem with other people being positive, but - as we can see in this thread - blame can make people feel extremely cornered, especially if it's for a situation they don't ordinarily deserve to feel cornered or blamed for, being as they're in a situation that cannot be resolved by positive thinking (in JAC's instance: battling health issues).
Rosemary Rabbit
10-17-2013, 10:42 AM
tl;dr: You can utilize positive thinking without believing in LOA.
GlamourRouge
10-17-2013, 07:21 PM
Jesus H. I just caught up on this thread. No one said you have to believe in the LOA. No one cares what you believe in or don't believe in, I promise. Again, like everything else on SW, read it (or don't) and if it doesn't apply to you or help you, move on. But the stuff written in thread is beneficial for many, as they have already said. So just because it doesn't benefit you doesn't mean its pointless or even that you HAVE to follow it.
The only point anyone was trying to make is that you have to take responsibility for not making the amount of money you want to because there are always other avenues out there (other cam sites, niches, other industries, etc). You are the only person in the world responsible for yourself (unless you're under 18 or mentally handicapped), so you are the only person responsible for your income. Once you take responsibility instead of blaming it on a website, there are more opportunities out there for you that you're forced to look for and see.
Additionally, NO the LOA is not going to bring you something that is completely unrealistic and out of reach (i.e. a feast to a starving country). LOA works in personal context. It is using what you already have to manifest more of. It doesn't bring everything you have ever wanted out of thin air, and its not going to work overnight. It depends on the context that is already there. However, camming is perfect use for the LOA as we already have the means to cam, so it can only increase what is already being brought to us. That is how quantum physics works.
I have been where many of you are or have been. I have lupus. I was bedridden for like a year. I was without a voice for months & months. I declared bankruptcy with nearly 100k in med bills. I lost everything. I ended a relationship. Then I discovered LOA and suddenly, whether correlated or not, my life started getting better and now I feel healthy, have a good credit score, no debt, and all the things I have wanted. So it did work for me. And I know other commenters who are pro-LOA went through the same type of shit, and it worked for them. So, great! If it works, cool. If not, cool.
And no one ever said you can't be positive and not believe in the LOA. However, 2 things: 1.) there is a link between being negative and not making the money you want, and 2.) you have to be positive with the LOA because that is the basis on which it works and if you aren't positive & you don't genuinely believe in it (what you are capable of), it won't work. That's all anyone said in here.
That being said, I'm working on a LOA camming program thing. Should be done soon.
i'm so confused, but this coffee is amazing. So is this awesome coffee cup! No one may like my cup but me, but i'll be damned if this cup doesn't hold my coffee just the way i like. It's hard not to talk about my coffee cup when it's done such wonderful things for me, but some people have complained about the rim being too thin for them, how it spills when they sip, or the cup being too tall, or the mouth wide enough. I dunno, i just figure that because i'm using it and love it so much i might say a few things about it, but i certainly won't be demanding people drink from it either! I don't know their needs, their life, why they prefer a handle that only fits two fingers vs. Your whole fist, but...really? I just want to drink some fucking coffee. I think that's the goal anyway.
Marry me?
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GlamourRouge
10-17-2013, 07:53 PM
Marry me?
Unfortunately, there is a waiting list. If you ever go in that creature's room when she's live, you're done for. ;)
I would also like to extend an offer of marriage to Incantalicious
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Incantatious
10-17-2013, 08:49 PM
I would also like to extend an offer of marriage to Incantalicious
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You called me Incantalicious.
I'm yours.
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JaneBurgess
10-17-2013, 09:51 PM
Damn that must have been a very rough time for you. I'm glad that things turned around and you are doing a lot better now.
Jesus H. I just caught up on this thread. No one said you have to believe in the LOA. No one cares what you believe in or don't believe in, I promise. Again, like everything else on SW, read it (or don't) and if it doesn't apply to you or help you, move on. But the stuff written in thread is beneficial for many, as they have already said. So just because it doesn't benefit you doesn't mean its pointless or even that you HAVE to follow it.
The only point anyone was trying to make is that you have to take responsibility for not making the amount of money you want to because there are always other avenues out there (other cam sites, niches, other industries, etc). You are the only person in the world responsible for yourself (unless you're under 18 or mentally handicapped), so you are the only person responsible for your income. Once you take responsibility instead of blaming it on a website, there are more opportunities out there for you that you're forced to look for and see.
Additionally, NO the LOA is not going to bring you something that is completely unrealistic and out of reach (i.e. a feast to a starving country). LOA works in personal context. It is using what you already have to manifest more of. It doesn't bring everything you have ever wanted out of thin air, and its not going to work overnight. It depends on the context that is already there. However, camming is perfect use for the LOA as we already have the means to cam, so it can only increase what is already being brought to us. That is how quantum physics works.
I have been where many of you are or have been. I have lupus. I was bedridden for like a year. I was without a voice for months & months. I declared bankruptcy with nearly 100k in med bills. I lost everything. I ended a relationship. Then I discovered LOA and suddenly, whether correlated or not, my life started getting better and now I feel healthy, have a good credit score, no debt, and all the things I have wanted. So it did work for me. And I know other commenters who are pro-LOA went through the same type of shit, and it worked for them. So, great! If it works, cool. If not, cool.
And no one ever said you can't be positive and not believe in the LOA. However, 2 things: 1.) there is a link between being negative and not making the money you want, and 2.) you have to be positive with the LOA because that is the basis on which it works and if you aren't positive & you don't genuinely believe in it (what you are capable of), it won't work. That's all anyone said in here.
That being said, I'm working on a LOA camming program thing. Should be done soon.
You called me Incantalicious.
I'm yours.
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Yay!
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whirlerz
10-17-2013, 10:59 PM
Thanks so much for the vids, & I LOVE YOU ALL!!! Eph. & whirl forever mwah!
justanothercamgirl
10-18-2013, 08:57 AM
And no one ever said you can't be positive and not believe in the LOA. However, 2 things: 1.) there is a link between being negative and not making the money you want, and 2.) you have to be positive with the LOA because that is the basis on which it works and if you aren't positive & you don't genuinely believe in it (what you are capable of), it won't work. That's all anyone said in here.
It was pointed out to me that I had been mentioned by name so I came back to see what has transpired.
Let's try this again, shall we?
1. No one has any problem with people who believe in LOA or in LOA existence
2. LOA can improve many people's life for the better, which is awesome
3. The problem we keep stumbling over is the fact that people do not see that what is being complained about IS NOT LOA. It is the rude and cruel recent behaviour of SOME people who believe in LOA towards the people who don't.
The above quote is an example of this.
"And no one ever said you can't be positive and not believe in the LOA. However, 2 things: 1.) there is a link between being negative and not making the money you want"
Can we take a moment to look at the LOGICAL facility in this statement for a second, please?
1. No one said you can't be positive and not believe in the LOA but there is a link between being negative and not making the money you want.
Okay, well there is also a link between people who become unhappy with their experience on Stripperweb after being told by people who are believers in the LOA that they a 'negative person' over and over again and that things that person has posted in the past (including things that were posted in a verified space) proves that they are unhappy with the money they make no matter what ACTUAL facts the person who is actually MAKING the money tries to bring up about their own positive outlook. There is probably about as much 'scientific proof' behind both links as well.
People SHOULD NOT have to be reminded on this forum to not be disrespectful and judgmental of other people. People SHOULD NOT have to be reminded in this forum to not push their beliefs on others. We have been told in this thread over and over again that this is an LOA thread and non-LOA people are ruining it.
Loveshooks has ALREADY pointed out that LOA does not belong in this sub-forum. If you want to kumbaya about it outside of Camming Connection by all means get your ya yas out.
The issue isn't whether or not anyone should, does believe in KOA. It is not about whether or not it exists. The issue isn't even about 'positivity' or 'negativity' or even science.
The issue at hand is that everyone REGARDLESS of what they believe deserves basic respect as a human being and basic respect to others means not pushing your beliefs on others. You are more then allowed to express those beliefs but in a way that shows respect to those who do not believe the same thing you do.
I have said it before, and I will say it again. We are ALL in this together. We are all in this together because we are camgirls. If we can't get over this stupidity judgmental shit then we are no better than the people who judge us and look down on us because we are in the sex industry.
What GR says is 100% correct............for her life.
What I say is 100% correct............for my life.
The issue is when you tell other people what is correct for them.
I know my own truth. I am happy with the money I make, health problems or not. I am positive and I am even feel joy for GR that she has overcome so much. That is amazing that she has done that.
I can't believe that it has all come down to me ACTUALLY having to say this......
All I fucking want is to be able to express my opinion without being disrespected, attacked, belittled, mocked, or private information released in a public form.
When did what I want become so much to ask for? These are my basic rights as a human being.
I have been where many of you are or have been.
You see GR, that is the difference between you and me. I have too much respect for you to ever assume that I have ever experienced or felt anything you have in your life. I respect that we are individuals and your experience on this spinning blue ball can never be defined by my opinion of it.
audritwo
11-14-2013, 09:11 PM
bump:D
justanothercamgirl
11-14-2013, 09:50 PM
bump:D
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