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WayneCider
11-04-2011, 06:50 AM
Just curious if anyone can relate to this:

http://www.tantra.org/art-of-ecstatic-sex-and-tantra/

My wife and I have been experiencing this for the last 6 months and have found this excerpt to be the most accurate description.

Just thought I'd share. :)

WayneCider
01-27-2012, 08:05 AM
No one likes deep penetration?

firemaiden04
01-27-2012, 09:01 AM
"All the emotional memories of a woman’s painful sexual experiences such as rape, abortion, aggression, and abuse leave their psychological imprint in this deepest part of the vagina."

...oh really?

KS_Stevia
02-06-2012, 11:04 AM
The deepest part of my vagina is my cervix, which is very "tough". It also has no pleasurable nerve endings and really hurts when it gets pounded. The entire article is bullshit. It says to move away from the clitoral, but no techniques on how to create the "vaginal". Bullshit.

4everresolutions
02-06-2012, 11:06 AM
Bahahaha. Is this real life?

laurielegs
02-06-2012, 05:04 PM
It really sounds like that article was written by a man with no clue how a woman's body works.

4everresolutions
02-06-2012, 05:08 PM
^pound till she screams. That's all a real man really needs to know. Amirite?

I mean...that's how it's done in porn. And those ladies seem to be enjoying themselves....

Laurisa
02-06-2012, 05:40 PM
Okay two things:

1.) I was molested/raped at age 14, and I can assure you the memories of the attack do not "lurk in the deep part of my vagina"--they are painful psychological memories--and if they did indeed "lurk" there I would not want someone intentionally trying to stimulate them.

2.) I am a real woman, I created a human being and gave birth to him. I can assure you that a penis deep in my vagina does not create a figurative pearl that radiates to my heart and therefore turns me into the woman I never was!

Right. fail.

WayneCider
02-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Just when I thought this thread was dead! Thanks for the feedback. Albeit negative, feedback nonetheless.

First off, a quick anatomy lesson for those that don't know...

http://www.bartleby.com/107/illus1166.html

If you look at the deepest spot (behind the cervix), you'll find the posterior fornix. Some women have never felt anything in this area, some loathe it, some claim to be multi-orgasmic from stimulating that spot. All women are different

Here is the posterior fornix's role in the female orgasm:

http://www.the-clitoris.com/x/orgasm/respon2.jpg

Again, for those not familiar with female anatomy, especially orgasms, check out the area behind the cervix. When my wife and I reach this area, there is a definite orifice type of feeling. More of a pop type sensation when my glans finally completely enters it.

Most women's cervix lies within 3 or 4 inches from the opening by the way:

http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/6/1618.full

...and from that, the average depth of the posterior fornix is between 1/2" to 2" behind the cervix.

If you've never had a lover reach your posterior fornix (aka the cul de sac) you either have never had a lover long enough, sensitive enough or your cervix is just unwilling to lift up and and out of the way of the penis. It took years for my wife and I to fully access this area. You don't simply "bang away" to get there either. It needs to be coaxed and rubbed open like two sheets of paper.

I first heard about it from a book back in 1997 by Barbara Keesling entitled, Super Sexual Orgasm, which was actually a pretty stupid book. 99% was hype on how great it felt and I think 1 paragraph devoted on how to reach it. Anyway, it started the ball rolling into my research.

For MRI type information, I recommend this:

http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~knutson/ans/faix02.pdf

Which was a follow up from another MRI experiment:

http://www.e-radiography.net/articles/MRI%20Intercourse_files/MRI%20Intercourse.htm

That one though only shows the anterior fornix, a much shallower area. This is still debated by the way. Although the entrance is before the cervix along the top wall, the "pouch" in the AFE zone is supposedly deeper. I say pouch in quotes because in essence, the fornices is the ring formed around the cervix. Again, it takes a certain amount of gentleness, guidance (from both parties) and firmness to enter the areas properly.

This post is going all over the place since I'm writing this spontaneously, but one awesome website to really see what's going on in there is this:

http://www.beautifulcervix.com/

Jump on to the photo gallery section and be amazed at the beauty of the vagina.

Hopefully this can start some constructive dialogue, if not, it was fun writing this post anyway.

EDIT: One thing my research has taken me is how the posterior fornix affects the root chakra. It's a recent find, so hopefully someone into tantra/kundalini can chime in on this.

rickdugan
02-07-2012, 08:26 AM
Are you seriously on here lecturing women about their own anatomy?

roast
02-07-2012, 08:58 AM
lol this is hilarious

look if you like deep penetration, you just like deep penetration - all of this pseudo-mystical-freudian-regression-science to justify why you like shoving into vaginas as far as you can is really just male sexual entitlement gone awry. Just establish a safe word, make sure she's actually aroused, and go for it? lol come on. Its like someone watched wayy too much porn, went on wikipedia to google some stuff, completely ignored any female input, and went 'eureka'!

ugh this brightened my morning

crazy kids and your internets

unbeleavable
02-07-2012, 09:35 AM
There is a reason why this post is in the basement...

yoda57us
02-07-2012, 10:39 AM
Again, for those not familiar with female anatomy, especially orgasms, check out the area behind the cervix. When my wife and I reach this area, there is a definite orifice type of feeling. More of a pop type sensation when my glans finally completely enters it.


Thanks really but my own extensive research over the past several years seems to lean more towards clitoral stimulation than trying to force parts of the female anatomy to open. I'm finding more and more women who, as they age a bit, actually prefer cunnilingus to intercourse and are pretty much always multi-orgasmic when that approach is used.

just sayin...

4everresolutions
02-07-2012, 01:21 PM
THIS IS THE BASEMENT?!?!?! Why is it not blue?

yoda57us
02-07-2012, 02:00 PM
THIS IS THE BASEMENT?!?!?! Why is it not blue?

It's blue for me.

Jay12
02-07-2012, 02:03 PM
It really sounds like that article was written by a man with no clue how a woman's body works.

Those Hindi men who wrote those books (the Tantra and the Kama Sutra) were virgins, so they didn't know about how the female body.

rickdugan
02-07-2012, 02:24 PM
THIS IS THE BASEMENT?!?!?! Why is it not blue?

It is blue on my computer, but still pink on my smart phone.

WayneCider
02-08-2012, 07:18 AM
It really sounds like that article was written by a man with no clue how a woman's body works.
Those Hindi men who wrote those books (the Tantra and the Kama Sutra) were virgins, so they didn't know about how the female body.

Not sure if you're referring to the owner of the Blog (Suzie Heumann who writes for the Huffington Post as well as other books see: http://www.tantra.com/aboutsuzie/) or the original writer that she excerpted from, Diana Richardson - another well known author (http://www.amazon.com/Diana-Richardson/e/B001KDM6NA). Either case, they are legitimate living, breathing women.

rickdugan
02-08-2012, 08:15 AM
Dude, enough already. Seriously. Virtually every one of your 24 posts on this site has been an attempt to engage dancers in discussions about sex. You are starting to come across as rather creepy now. Now obviously this thread is in the basement, so more lattitude is generally expected and I wouldn't normally take issue with another blue posting about pretty much anything here, but frankly your posts are really starting to give me the douche chills.

From this thread and your other posts, it is fairly clear that you have some preconceptions about dancers and their sexuality and that you're using this place to play out your fantasized notions. However, before you keep going, perhaps you should spend some more time reading some of the discusions in the pink sections that address the negative impacts that working in this industry has had on some of these girls' sexual identities. Shit, after working in clubs and dealing with all of the ridiculous bullshit that some guys do, some of these dancers cannot even stand to be touched anymore. I am betting that a bit more research on this site may cool off your ardor quite a bit.

Jay12
02-08-2012, 04:16 PM
^Well, and look who's talking?! Rick, you are complaining about this guy asking questions about sex, yet sex (especially ITC) is the only thing you seem to talk about (especially in the blue side and in TUSCL). You already give me the chills!


Not sure if you're referring to the owner of the Blog (Suzie Heumann who writes for the Huffington Post as well as other books see: http://www.tantra.com/aboutsuzie/) or the original writer that she excerpted from, Diana Richardson - another well known author (http://www.amazon.com/Diana-Richardson/e/B001KDM6NA). Either case, they are legitimate living, breathing women.
I'm talking about the original ones, not the "western" edition #7680975624578439572934750234975347594

IsobelWren
02-08-2012, 04:25 PM
@Jay but if Rick is creepy and he finds this dude creepy isn't this dude just like, super totally creepy? Like creep squared? If a creep can tell you're a creep then...?

Not that I think Rick is a creep. I don't really know him.

IsobelWren
02-08-2012, 04:27 PM
THIS IS THE BASEMENT?!?!?! Why is it not blue?

Yeah it's pink to me too. I saw it in the "latest posts" bit at the top of the pink. I went, "Sex Talk?! When was there a Sex Talk subforum in the pink!?" When I clicked on it, it clearly says at the top in the directory tree that it's in the blue but there's no color change at all on the rest of the page. Still looks totally pink.

WayneCider
02-08-2012, 05:01 PM
My philosophy is that if you have no interest in the dialogue, don't post. If you disagree with the topic and want a conversation, then post.

Seriously, I would've let this thread die if it hadn't picked up any traffic after my only bump.

unbeleavable
02-08-2012, 05:08 PM
Rick is right on the money & Wayne..You know where you posted this & where it ended up? :) I've read all you posts as well...Keep trying...No one wants your deep penetration. & I LOL at your sig.

safado
02-08-2012, 05:17 PM
In order to satisfy your curiosity about deep penetration, have you considered being on the receiving end so you could have first hand knowledge?

yoda57us
02-08-2012, 07:10 PM
My philosophy is that if you have no interest in the dialogue, don't post. If you disagree with the topic and want a conversation, then post.

Seriously, I would've let this thread die if it hadn't picked up any traffic after my only bump.

Welcome to the wonderful world of internet forums Wayne. Once you post a new thread it's not really yours anymore. It becomes fodder for the board's population to respond to as they wish.

rickdugan
02-08-2012, 08:10 PM
^Well, and look who's talking?! Rick, you are complaining about this guy asking questions about sex, yet sex (especially ITC) is the only thing you seem to talk about (especially in the blue side and in TUSCL). You already give me the chills!


@Jay but if Rick is creepy and he finds this dude creepy isn't this dude just like, super totally creepy? Like creep squared? If a creep can tell you're a creep then...?

LOL. I believe that only a relatively small % of my posts make reference to ITC or even OTC p4p. I post on a variety of topics relating to clubs and other matters. Also, as I have stated time and again, I don't engage in dicey activities ITC in most places, but I have readily admitted that I routinely engage in OTC in different parts of the country. Now does this make me "creepy?" Idk, perhaps so. However, if you apply that label to me then I suppose that you'd also need to apply it to several other seasoned blues around these parts who engage in, and post about, a variety of activities with dancers and/or escorts.

What I specifically took issue with relating to Wayne's posts was: (1) his fantasizing about strippers and their supposed heightened sexuality; and (2) his continued efforts to try to draw dancers into graphic conversations about sex. It sounded very much like he was trying to play out his fantasies here and, if he had been successful in getting dancers to respond, it would not have surprised me if he used the material in private moments with himself. ;)

Anyway, there it is fwiw.

FBR
02-11-2012, 12:45 PM
I've bottomed out a couple of times over the years but a rarity. Don't recall any woman begging me to pound her cervix. Sounds painful to be honest.

FBR

unbeleavable
02-11-2012, 01:12 PM
^^^this made me LOL FBR....Bottom out:) & it does sound painful.

WayneCider
02-12-2012, 10:51 PM
The cervix is not the bottom of the vagina.

Before penetration:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzbffhPs3C1roy9v5o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1329196456&Signature=xS8XT884dKaNfmvaF2byKLFEEdE%3D

Balls deep:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzbfhjMZBT1roy9v5o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1329197858&Signature=EWSTBe3CWeUnhgiXz6DL6Aaot50%3D

unbeleavable
02-12-2012, 11:09 PM
Thank you again for tips...But I think you know..

WayneCider
02-13-2012, 06:27 AM
Thank you again for tips...But I think you know..

It wasn't addressed to you,


I've bottomed out a couple of times over the years but a rarity. Don't recall any woman begging me to pound her cervix. Sounds painful to be honest.

FBR

Obviously, he thinks the cervix *is* the bottom.

Kisca
02-13-2012, 07:28 AM
Obviously your "wife" must love your skills and your creepy gynecologist appraoch.

Us, females know nothing about our vaginas

WayneCider
02-13-2012, 09:21 AM
Obviously your "wife" must love your skills and your creepy gynecologist appraoch.


Actually, it's more an engineer's approach, but thanks.



Us, females know nothing about our vaginas

Sarcasm aside, It's not the females I'm specifically after, it's the discussion. Trying to educate guys into not banging into a woman's cervix and thinking they're some macho well hung studs for inflicting pain seems to be where this thread is going.

_natasha
02-13-2012, 10:42 AM
I hope you're loaded because no woman should put up with this otherwise. Direct your wife to this board, she needs help.

lestat1
02-13-2012, 01:46 PM
This makes a lot of sense. Does it also apply to the female vagina?

WayneCider
02-13-2012, 08:43 PM
I hope you're loaded because no woman should put up with this otherwise. Direct your wife to this board, she needs help.

Not sure what you mean by that. My wife is superbly happy I can cycle through the different internal erogenous zones. Never boring.


This makes a lot of sense. Does it also apply to the female vagina?

Just in case you (obviously) missed it, the data on vaginal internal dimensions are based on:
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/6/1618.full

The original model for the vagina's cross section is from:
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/vagina.gif

The cross section of what coitus looks like:
http://www.e-radiography.net/articles/MRI%20Intercourse_files/MRI%20Intercourse.htm

How a tented vagina looks like:
http://www.the-clitoris.com/x/orgasm/respon2.jpg

And finally, the penis was traced from a photograph.

Artwork was done with AutoCAD and future animation will be on Flash which will be converted to GIF for portability.

unbeleavable
02-13-2012, 09:06 PM
Wanye..You are the last person to be explaining the joy of a Beautiful Woman....so please leave before?

SkylerScarlett
12-08-2014, 08:40 PM
Deep penetration is why I recommend dead starfish and pile driver along with doggy! Nothing penetrates deeper!!!