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Cammi
11-16-2011, 09:51 PM
Well I didn't make profit tonight but I've made less money on nights with much more customers, and I wasn't miles behind everyone else so it's an improvement!

Kellydancer
11-17-2011, 12:29 AM
Good for you Cammi! It does stink not making money (been there)but increasing your money is a positive in the right step.

FeministStripper
11-17-2011, 01:04 AM
- How I talk to customers has I think been the main issue. I've been quite guarded, not really put out much personality and just used lines I've read off the internet rather than being myself. I've noticed that when guys do give me money it's normally cause I let my walls down and just been myself. So now that's what I'm gonna try doing when I work, last night was meant to test how it would go but I let a bunch of assholes get in my head and kill my hustle so it didn't really work.

I think that sounds right. Customers are there for attention, conversation and company as much as a look at your birthday suit. Those lines you've read on the internet are likely sounding stiff, strange and false. Make eye contact. Smile. Be natural. Ask questions, help the customers talk about themselves. Be fun. Be sexy. Your personality is as important - if not more so -than your looks; the cute-but-not-perfect girl with the great personality can hold her own against the boring, snobbish supermodel any day. Watch the girls who make a lot of money; don't try to be them, but see what they do and figure out how to do it, too, in your own way. Frustration and stress are sales-killers; relax, open up - it's possible to be welcoming and accessible while maintaining healthy boundaries - and don't overthink it.

Cammi
11-27-2011, 08:57 AM
Just thought I'd report back with an update because things are getting better. This week I made profit 3 out of 4 days and finished the week 55 quid ahead! I'm still not where I need to be but it's been so good to see myself improving! Thanks to everyone for the support and advice!

xGigi
11-27-2011, 10:58 AM
How do the other girls do?

Cammi
11-27-2011, 11:04 AM
I'm definitely still on the low end of the earnings scale. Which I see as a positive because it means I've still got room for development and I haven't peaked yet. If the other girls were doing the same as I've done this week then I'd be worried.

JessicaCM
11-27-2011, 02:20 PM
Honestly, if you've been dancing for two months and you've only MADE A PROFIT 4 times, I'd say it's just not going to work out. Dancing takes a huge toll out of you physically and mentally and the only reason it's worth it is for the huge money it can bring. There's other jobs out there which will be much easier and you can count on to make x amount no matter what. You've put in your time and two months is more than enough time to figure out it's not worth it without wasting anymore of your time and money.

I agree. Sometimes it's just the club. My club was sooo slow that majority of the dancers were leaving with under $100 a night. SAD. It was better when it was just three of use, then we moved up to 8, and after a while I left. The money was NOT worth it. I had many good nights, but the bad to start outweigh the good for weeks.

If you only made "good money" or banked (varies on depending on the club area...some would be $300 and above, others $500, others $1000, it just depends) 4 times then that's good. I had fewer nights where I bank and an average amount I made most of them time. Don't leave because you don't bank every single night, but if it's less than like $120-$150 continuously...not worth it at all.

Farrah_Golden
11-28-2011, 05:18 PM
It totally depends on the club though, as I just discovered for myself. At club A, I worked 4 hours, didn't try very hard at ALL and still left with $200-300.

At club B, I worked 8 hours, busted my ass and left with $200-300.

See the difference? If customers don't go in there expecting to spend money, they won't. If they go in knowing it's not a whore house, they have to be respectful AND girls are going to offer them services, they will likely spend more. If you find you're always being propositioned for sex, leave. I had a customer look me dead in the eye and said "you're not going to make money here because all of the other girls will do extras." So, I quit. If you feel like you're always pulling teeth to sell even one dance, consider finding another club. If the other girls are very, very dressy and you're more casual, then spend a little more time on your hair and makeup. But on the other hand, if you have something new and different to bring to the table, then work it! Change your environment, whether that means adapting to the club or finding a new one. It seems like you have a really positive attitude, and that will take you very far.

And you are absolutely right; it's a GOOD thing if you're the only one not making money. That means you have room for improvement, whereas there is very little you can do about the club itself or the economy or the customers.

UV69
11-28-2011, 06:35 PM
Here is my honest advice -- Go out get laid (4 once in your life) & then pretend you are going to do that again with every customer that looks your way.


It's not about being a slut, but selling that connection that you simply have been very closed off to experiencing yourself.

I think the reason you became a stripper was to learn how to connect with men as obviously for a hotgirl you must have skyhigh walls up to not be beating them off of you.

Work on your sex me face in the mirror & if you don't have that find 1. I'm hot shyt but I wouldn't have the game I do if people couldn't smell the raw sexual energy off of me. It usually starts with 1 look where I know if they look in my eyes then the money or whatever else I wanted follows.

In this bizz you got to be a snake charmer to bank so stop being the sex repellent that must make men feel kinda guilty for even looking at you like that with your Bambi deer in the hightlight thing you must be doing.

JenniferCostillo
06-18-2012, 09:55 AM
I agree with Desuvsdeath all of those things play a major role. Are you approachable, do you stay in the dressing room all day chatting it up, what are you wearing and are you switching up your costumes to see what works, is your hair and makeup on point, does the club you work at suck. I recommend just seeing what the girls at your clubs are doing only the good ones though and asking them because they could tell you best. Were just on the outside looking on the inside and going off of what you say. Anyways goodluck

Scarletkisses
06-24-2012, 01:05 PM
I think the fact that you have never had a boyfriend plays a role in this. I think that flirting is a huge part of dancing so if you date more then you will probably learn to be a better flirt-er. So here is my advice

Step #1 learn how to flirt. google it use sites like this http://www.onlinedater.org/articles/the-ultimate-guide-to-flirting-39-awesome-flirting-tutorials-and-resources/ Practice practice practice. Flirt where ever you go with EVERYONE. I flirt at restaurants, gas stations, the grocery store. They don't have to be cute. You don't have to be attracted to them. This is all about the practice.

Step #2 Go on some dates. Put your self on some dating websites. There are some free ones like plenty of fish. These dates will help you learn how to flirt. Another option if you are open to it is a sugar daddy dating website. A lot of them make you pay for a membership. This could help you with 3 problems. The first is a sugar daddy will typically help take care of you and give you an allowance and that should help with your income. This will also help you with the flirting. And you might even find someone you really enjoy hanging out with. A few websites are sugardaddie.com and seekingarrangments.com.

Step #3 Read hustle hut. Try asking a friend if you can practice some of the approaches on them. Ask them to critique you.

Step #4 Ask some of the top earners if they can critique.Make friends with other dancers. They don't have to be from your club but they may help give you live advice that we cant because we aren't there

Step #5 Sit and watch the other girls you can even do this at other clubs too

Step #6 Check out some other clubs. Find the best fit for you



Edit: Quick Question I was looking into your past posts and profile. I saw some old pictures of you where you are dirty blonde and others that you have bright red hair. I think personally that the dirty blond looks much better and more natural.
Another thing I noticed from you video for critique is that you slouch a bit to make your self look shorter. Don't do it. Own your height!

Jessie_tinydancer
06-25-2012, 01:14 AM
What about playing up your innocent side? Act like butter wouldn't melt in your mouth. Sheepishly look away. Giggle when you say something "naughty" Pretend your timid at first but then start to be more relaxed gradually. The guy will think it was his awesomeness making you more comfortable and hence stroke his ego.

Also not saying become an alcoholic but maybe have a drink before work and one during. Im stiff as until I have a drink. Don't get drunk but one might warm you up.

LilRedRidinGood
06-26-2012, 07:25 PM
you're probably targeting the wrong guys. Here's the rule of thumb. Sit with a guy for 10 minutes and get a drink in that time. If after 15 minutes you dont have a drink- LEAVE. After you've been with him for 30 minutes, hit him up for a lap dance. If he stalls, give him 45 MAX. If you have spent 45 min with a guy and havent gotten a lap dance then get up and leave. Don't ever lie and say "I have to change...or I have to pee...I have to request a song etc"
Say I'm sorry, I have to make a certain amount of money tonight and it was super great talking to you but I have to get back to it. They love honesty.
Look for expensive shoes, look for expensive watches. Look for guys with manicures. Basically, sit with old men.
Drunk guys in groups and guys under 30 are WORTHLESS

BlacEmpress_nyc
07-01-2012, 01:34 AM
Perhaps you should try getting into a pole class....look up different videos on Youtube to increase your skills....it helps!

CoinOperatedGirl
03-11-2017, 03:55 AM
How did you become interested in stripping? For a lot of us we got a constant stream of male attention and realized we could flip that into a profit, but if you've never been on a date I am very curious what made you drawn to the strip club atmosphere. Never going on a date would lead me to assume that you're either very young (like just turned 18) or you're incredibly reserved and not very social, which is a big hurdle to cross in order to make money stripping. If that's the case my best advice would be to take a class like dance or improve, as silly as it sounds, practice meeting people and getting out of your comfort zone! Also, you say you aren't hot in a "stripper" way- if you don't look strippery but you're hot in a tv-star or model way, maybe try a high end club. The clients there are looking less for Barbie-esque strippers and more for super hot company. If you aren't conventionally attractive (which is a big deal in the strip club world and not a big deal in real life) see what you can do to become hotter. I never worked out before stripping and now I spend an hour at the gym every day and really focus on looking my best.

moonangelko
03-11-2017, 06:03 AM
This is old thread, but i feel for this on so many levels. I started stripping as a virgin too, luckily i was used to dancing on stage cuz it was such an uphill battle. 2 boyfriends, 2 years of dancing in, i'm just learning now how to talk to customers out of their pocket. But im a cool stage dancer first lol

blondhottie
03-11-2017, 12:58 PM
I didn't make much when I first started dancing either, because I was too afraid to approach customers. You have to be totally unafraid of rejection and rude comments. Most of the time when you get turned down for a dance, it's not you personally anyways. The guy could be broke or someone who just doesn't get any dances from anyone at all. Nowadays unfortunately, a lot of guys treat strip clubs like a place to hang out and drink like a regular bar instead of buying dances. Don't judge a book on its cover either. I've been guilty of this before and there have been guys who I thought "No way in hell is he going to buy a dance from me" and they shocked me and ended up spending a lot of money.

Are the other girls making money at the club, or is everyone doing badly? Some clubs just suck for earning potential and if that's the case, find another club. Best of luck to you and don't give up! :)

moonangelko
03-11-2017, 06:05 PM
I didn't make much when I first started dancing either, because I was too afraid to approach customers. You have to be totally unafraid of rejection and rude comments. Most of the time when you get turned down for a dance, it's not you personally anyways. The guy could be broke or someone who just doesn't get any dances from anyone at all. Nowadays unfortunately, a lot of guys treat strip clubs like a place to hang out and drink like a regular bar instead of buying dances. Don't judge a book on its cover either. I've been guilty of this before and there have been guys who I thought "No way in hell is he going to buy a dance from me" and they shocked me and ended up spending a lot of money.

Are the other girls making money at the club, or is everyone doing badly? Some clubs just suck for earning potential and if that's the case, find another club. Best of luck to you and don't give up! :)

And note that not every club is for you. There are some clubs that work for my co-workers that just happen to not work for me at all.

bunnydoll
03-12-2017, 01:28 AM
I'm having a similar problem, I've been dancing 3 months and although I do make money, I don't make tons of money. I'm currently on a break because my health is very bad at the moment but I think my problem was I was aiming to high and trying to do too much at once, I last worked at the biggest upscale club on the city 3 days a week and at uni 5 days a week and after I ended up in hospital I realised it probably wasn't the best decision, and to work there I would need to not be on a uni course and working another job, so I'm on a break and I'm trying again at a more newbie friendly club closer to home where I can develop my hustle. Maybe you could try switching clubs or trying different techniques in hustling? It might jut be the club b not working for you