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ava$
07-21-2014, 08:47 PM
Great tips but man its like every club Ive ever worked in, extras are so plentiful, boob touching is the norm, ill never go beyond that but I am propositioned for much worse all the time, (I still do pretty well) but wish i could find a club where it wasn't just expected so I could up charge with everyone n get away w it

tempest666
07-21-2014, 11:01 PM
I work at a club where boob touching is the norm but they're not touching mine for $15. "But so and so lets me do it!" "Then go grab so and so's saggy ass tits/jelly rolls! I don't have a twinkie habit or drug habit to support!"
They pay up right away. ::)

Flickdreams
12-30-2014, 07:29 AM
Bump.... cause my club is getting dirty >:(

22lligm
12-30-2014, 01:33 PM
One of my favorite clubs was pretty much a brothel in disguise but I always made really good money there without doing any extras. They had nude dances so being attractive helps obviously. I also had a lot of regulars because it was definitely a slow paced club where you have to sit and build a rapport with customers. I had more of an innocent/sweet hustle and I think that helped me make a lot of money. If I was acting overly sexy to get guys in the back I'm sure I would have attracted guys who only wanted extras. I wanted to second what someone else said about not every customer in there wants extras. Yeah there are a lot who come in for whatever the other girls do for them but there are still a lot who just want to spend time with a pretty girl. The location is a major factor on these types of clubs though. The club I worked at was in an area where a lot of wealthy men lived and worked, so a lot of the customers were older men with a lot of money. I'm sure some wanted extras from other dancers but for the most part the ones who spent money on me just wanted to talk/hangout/get to know me. Where I live now, there are extras clubs but they are in dirty neighborhoods and the customers are grimy and don't have a lot of money. Those clubs you probably can't make much being a clean dancer.

I much prefer the type of club I am at now though, with a fast hustle and not much conversation happening with customers. It really is draining when you to get to know the customers and build relationships with them in the club. I would rather just take their money and never see them again. lol

xxxGothBarbie
12-31-2014, 05:49 PM
^ This!!!! I'm a hit & run kinda gal myself also, I've never wanted to have to work in a club where I see the same losers all the time.

littlefox
07-26-2015, 10:27 AM
I've lost out on dances because they've told me up front they expect more than just dancing and I've been upfront about the fact that I don't do that. About half the time after seeing me go into vip with other customers the guys who wanted extras end up paying me for a clean dance. I work the sweet/wide eyed angle and it seems to encourage good behaviour.

I've found that for me I'd rather make less money but keep my personal boundaries intact.

Candycups
07-30-2015, 02:51 AM
Exactly, all of that ^^ Everything Littlefox said.

For me, I would rather go home with less money and not be a total wreck because I let a random string of guys molest me for 8 hours just so I could leave with a extra hundred dollars, if that. More power to the girls who don't think twice about it and can make that bank no sweat, but I personally can't do that and maintain my emotional and mental health while doing this job. When I was working at a dive when I first started dancing, I was 100% sure this industry just flat out wasn't for me and I was the world's worst stripper for even attempting it. Things got a lot better when I found a clean club to dance at. I might be overly sensitive about it, but I'm happy with the money I'm able to make without crossing my boundaries, and also that I can go home and rest easy instead of freaking out about how many guys tweaked my nipples or tried to slide a hand up my inner thigh or run their tongue over my skin. Life is a lot better now, and I'm making more money because I don't have to work to force myself just to go in once a week.

Nina_
08-01-2015, 08:17 AM
I've lost out on dances because they've told me up front they expect more than just dancing and I've been upfront about the fact that I don't do that. About half the time after seeing me go into vip with other customers the guys who wanted extras end up paying me for a clean dance. I work the sweet/wide eyed angle and it seems to encourage good behaviour.

I've found that for me I'd rather make less money but keep my personal boundaries intact.

That's exactly how I looked at it. I worked in Detroit (where the woman who started this thread primarily worked) and I worked at a lot of 8 mile clubs that were just brothels. If a guy wanted extras I'd say some smart ass line and move onto the next! I remember a guy who wrote a very positive review about me on tuscl saying, "just don't ask her about extras or she will shut you down." Haha.

The bouncers all knew I didn't do extras, and one night I wasn't happy with the amount of money I made and the bouncer said, "that's ok, you got keep your morals." You're damn right. I'd rather go home broke, although I did become one of the top earners at those clubs and was one of the only clean girls.

moonangelko
08-10-2015, 08:55 PM
After half a year of working at an extra club, I opted for a lap dance and stage only dive and make good money. The only thing is, northern nj, is all very high contact so if they aren't asking for extras then its trying to touch the kitty, trying to get kisses or very very heavy grinding. Its like you can't win.

SalemTheStripper
09-23-2015, 07:53 PM
This post is a saviour. I can't be certain is my club is an extras club but I have some high suspicions. I've been having a harder time selling dances because of this, I believe. But this is what I needed. Thank you.

NYC.Bianca
11-01-2015, 12:07 AM
To the original post:


This is all sound advice & highly recommended (though I do NOT grind on my customers and don't feel you need to unless you know he's tipping you like $500 after wards... they literally just get to look at me with mild touching, no grouping; I remind ALL customers before dances to "be a gentleman").

I have had my HIGHEST nights dancing with the customer demographic she is talking about. The lonely man looking for sensuality & connection. I have had nights upwards of 9k because of this kind of man...and ALL of my 3-7k nights have all been from this same demographic. The BIG money is NOT in the extras; it's in your ability to connect with the right customer.

TiffTiff
11-03-2015, 01:56 AM
My mind is still blown that you girls all think (or are told) dances are 3 minutes long. Three minutes is not a full song. Regardless, the last 4 clubs I worked at they get 5 minutes for $25. I tell them if they want my bottoms off it's an extra $20. It has taken me almost 3 years but I found a rich guy in this semi-dive I work at who will do 2 dances and tip me $60. He does that twice my shift. Today he tipped me $80 because "he didn't get a chance to see me last week". I make more money in the chair/lap dance room than the $250 champagne room upstairs where I will receive half that and get groped and damn near raped. I even had a guy bite me and draw blood. No more champagne rooms for me.

SuperJa
11-03-2015, 05:07 AM
My mind is still blown that you girls all think (or are told) dances are 3 minutes long. Three minutes is not a full song. .

Is it not common for clubs to cut songs?

Current club songs are trimmed to 3 minutes and are $25. Most other clubs here use 4 minute songs and they are $30. Have also worked one club where dances are 4 minutes, and they have clocks at the top of each booth so you just time them that way.

The only clubs I've worked at where we were expected to dance to a full song allow dancers to set their own prices as long as the bar gets $10. So if I'm dancing for a whole 5 min+ song, I'm charging $60-80.

GothicStripper
11-13-2015, 04:30 PM
Is it not common for clubs to cut songs?
In my club they never trim songs. They just play whatever the girls asks for/what the DJ wants. I've danced to songs that were barely 2 minutes and I've seen girls dance o stage to songs that were literally 7 minutes long.

Selina M
11-13-2015, 04:59 PM
My mind is still blown that you girls all think (or are told) dances are 3 minutes long. Three minutes is not a full song.

It most certainly is a full song in strip club land.

The daytime DJs will let them go to about 3.5 unless it's like a Friday and there's 20+ girls on multiple stages. The night DJs almost always cut at 3 mins. I've seen them cut at 2.5 mins. We have a base price of $10/dance so that's probably why they're so 'on it', they want us to turn and burn customers and make more money... theoretically more tips for them.

crystalize
11-15-2015, 03:38 PM
The shorter the song the better ;) unless I'm on stage so I can get more tips. We had a local radio dj at my club last night and he played like at the club. I did 3 dances for a guy and I'm positive that took less than 5 minutes total. Yay!

nicole88
08-05-2017, 05:36 PM
Bumping this thread. Is it possible to make money in an extras ridden club? how do you sell yourself if you won't do what most girls will in the club? Is it just a waste of time and energy?

Sam38g
08-06-2017, 01:57 AM
Bumping this thread. Is it possible to make money in an extras ridden club? how do you sell yourself if you won't do what most girls will in the club? Is it just a waste of time and energy?

Depends upon how hot you are?
How good of a dancer?
How good are you at talking to men?
How good are you on main stage?

Sam38g
08-06-2017, 02:01 AM
My mind is still blown that you girls all think (or are told) dances are 3 minutes long. Three minutes is not a full song. Regardless, the last 4 clubs I worked at they get 5 minutes for $25. I tell them if they want my bottoms off it's an extra $20. It has taken me almost 3 years but I found a rich guy in this semi-dive I work at who will do 2 dances and tip me $60. He does that twice my shift. Today he tipped me $80 because "he didn't get a chance to see me last week". I make more money in the chair/lap dance room than the $250 champagne room upstairs where I will receive half that and get groped and damn near raped. I even had a guy bite me and draw blood. No more champagne rooms for me.


There are some songs that are 7 minutes & I know every single one of them because of a stripper who wanted the most time on main stage. If it's a 3 song set & the girl on stage chooses some long ass songs then she can be up on it for almost 20 minutes. Which doesn't work for the girls doing table dances or the customers being bored with a girl on main stage for that long.

nicole88
08-06-2017, 10:58 AM
I would say I'm a new dancer and inexperienced in dancing but have experience from camming making connections regulars conversation and Idont know about hotter but a different demographic I'm Small and blonde while the girls at this club are mostly curvy brunette Latin women.

Midwest-Mistress
11-29-2019, 10:18 AM
Bumping this thread due to another uprising of the Dirty/clean (I detest those polarizing words) I've been seeing lately... I think we need some inspiring content, NUMBERS DONT LIE! definitely gave me some great insight as ALL the fucking clubs has a combination of: (Whether you know it or not)
1. Escorts who strip
2. Strippers who escort
3. Girls who just strip
4. Girls who do ITC extras
5. Girls who don't do extras but do OTC dates
6. Girls who freestyle in Strip clubs for clients

It's 2019 and whew... Reading this thread and seeing others throw around Pr*sititue slur like crazy - I could tell that those saying that were bitter as fuck.... Got some issues going on. Like mentioned up thread we're all sex workers (And please note that sex work doesn't always mean LITERAL SEX, but just an umbrella term for selling erotic labor.) And just another reminder that now since around mid 2018 due to SESTA/FOSTA all resources for FSSW have been literally taken from them by the government. And to know that we're all whores in the eyes of males whatever side of the spectrum you claim of being "clean" or "dirty"... I mean men literally proposition women for sex everywhere, so it's confusing to me when girls are like, "It's a phone sex site, not a hookup/escorting site!!?!" They'll want sex from; Full Service Sex Workers (Escorts), Sugar Babies, Cam Models, Strippers, Phone Sex Operators... Moms shopping for groceries in Kroger with a baby in a stroller and a ring on her finger clear as day. All that to say is, "When there's a will, there's a way." :)

lurkingtitties
11-30-2019, 08:13 AM
It’s not bitter to not want prostitution bleeding into clubs, it causes a lot of problems...reading between the lines, you do full service and you are actually the salty one here that your colleagues aren’t accepting that with open arms.

Selina M
11-30-2019, 03:28 PM
It's 2019 and whew... Reading this thread and seeing others throw around Pr*sititue slur like crazy - I could tell that those saying that were bitter as fuck.... Got some issues going on. Like mentioned up thread we're all sex workers...

Aight, I'm one of the first people to wholeheartedly accept that strippers are sex workers. BUT that doesn't mean that all levels of service need to be present in all establishments though. A strip club was never intended to be a place to get full service. Those of us who work in that environment because we don't want to provide more than that service have every right to get salty at girls who come in and inadvertently change customer expectations by offering more than is supposed to be available.

Nobody is using 'prostitute' as a slur, it's literally your job title if you have sex for money. Sorry? If you're the one feeling it's derogatory, maybe you are the one who has some issues going on.

Bloom2018
12-15-2019, 10:01 PM
Bumping this thread due to another uprising of the Dirty/clean (I detest those polarizing words) I've been seeing lately... I think we need some inspiring content, NUMBERS DONT LIE! definitely gave me some great insight as ALL the fucking clubs has a combination of: (Whether you know it or not)
1. Escorts who strip
2. Strippers who escort
3. Girls who just strip
4. Girls who do ITC extras
5. Girls who don't do extras but do OTC dates
6. Girls who freestyle in Strip clubs for clients

It's 2019 and whew... Reading this thread and seeing others throw around Pr*sititue slur like crazy - I could tell that those saying that were bitter as fuck.... Got some issues going on. Like mentioned up thread we're all sex workers (And please note that sex work doesn't always mean LITERAL SEX, but just an umbrella term for selling erotic labor.) And just another reminder that now since around mid 2018 due to SESTA/FOSTA all resources for FSSW have been literally taken from them by the government. And to know that we're all whores in the eyes of males whatever side of the spectrum you claim of being "clean" or "dirty"... I mean men literally proposition women for sex everywhere, so it's confusing to me when girls are like, "It's a phone sex site, not a hookup/escorting site!!?!" They'll want sex from; Full Service Sex Workers (Escorts), Sugar Babies, Cam Models, Strippers, Phone Sex Operators... Moms shopping for groceries in Kroger with a baby in a stroller and a ring on her finger clear as day. All that to say is, "When there's a will, there's a way." :)
These men who push boundaries are bad for business no matter if you escort, waitress, dance, etc. Anger's a fairly normal reaction to this. Not sure why you justify that behavior.

These boundary pushers are the same entitled assholes who pull their pants down the minute they enter VIP and try to pressure dancers to have sex or give BJs. Bad for the industry.


To the actual OP of this thread:

Just a quick read through the first few pages of this thread and it has great advice for anyone who works in high contact clubs.

ravenskyy
12-16-2019, 11:38 AM
Yes they are... But being in a high contact / extras club doesn't equate to only clientele pushing boundaries, men like that exist even in "clean" clubs so your point?


Anger is a valid feeling, but to go and call other women out of their name is not. Justifying who's behavior? The fact that I'm not mad a man asks a question about asking for sex in a club? If I read correctly the title reads, "How to compete & make money with high extras" not assault. Are you insinuating that I am condoning Sexual Assault?


If you use your intuition and understand not all money is good money & get that vibe from a client before you go back there...Why would you do that? You have the right to say no and walk away, at that point it's managements / Securities issue. My whole thing is, you women are pissy at other women supplying demand, but you're really not that mad about it because the "clean girls" not banning together to get your pimp of a 'manager' to fix the club clientele he's the one who owns it & condones it if the fee is right. Don't hate the players, hate the game. If you don't like it... Nobody is forcing you to stay. There are 1000s of clubs choose a "clean" one, good luck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I disagree wholeheartedly lol keep your dick sucking, full service bs out of strip clubs. I'm so tired of sitting on a mans lap and he tries to be slick and pull his dick out. I've had numerous guys try to kiss me, suck on my tits, finger me, lick my ass. NO NO NO!

Strip clubs are for looking. The fact that I sit in your damn lap for $20 is a bonus for you, and you should be grateful for it. I don't owe any man a damn thing when we do a dance, vip or a champagne room. I have no problem with escorts, but don't be fucking in the champagne room. Take it outside.

Also, you don't get a vibe from all customers. I've had numerous custies that started out nice and then ended up being a jerk. So it's my fault that he decided to assault me with his fingers? Because I didn't "use my intuition"? Yea, no. Hold these fuckers accountable for what they're doing.

No woman should have to leave her job due to the actions of another woman. You wanna suck dick? Cool! I don't. Stop being selfish. You wanna make a quick dollar at the expensive of others? You really shouldn't be in the club.

There is nothing wrong with escorting, but it doesn't belong in the club. Exchange contact info, and do it on your own time.

Aurora_Sunset
12-16-2019, 03:01 PM
Midwest-Mistresss, this thread was intended to help out dancers who want to remain at a "cleaner" level of service in a world where clubs are being filled with girls who offer more than a typical dancer is (or should be expected to be) comfortable with when they signed up for the job. I have my own feelings about the "hierarchy" of sex work, politics, who's to blame, and the words thrown around, but that's not the topic of this thread. It's been a very valuable resource here for years, and I'd like to keep it on the topic of how to make good money while still adhering to personal boundaries amid growing differences in the clubs and less about fighting about who's to blame and who belongs where.

neverendingkneebruises
10-10-2020, 11:35 PM
I don't mind strippers who do extras actually, (I blame the managers if anything because at the end of the day extras heavy clubs are like that because of the managers happily getting their cut) BUT the thing is extras should cost EXTRA. They should be so expensive that they aren't asked for often, as well.
I can compete with extras girls who are charging $1k or more & will even happily work alongside them; I can't compete with extras girls who charge the same or even less than I find VIP to be worth as a clean dancer....
If extras girls are gonna do extras I'd hope they charge their worth. Dirt cheap sex only benefits the patriarchy. Whether just dancing or fucking, our work is valuable & should not be devalued. You are joking yourself if you're saying $100 raw fucking or BBJ's (which is what I've seen in some clubs) is dignified or fair for anyone. This is the ONE industry where we have the upper hand over a man in the same position, let's not cheapen it anymore than it needs to be by saying charging peanuts for sucking & fucking is price-shaming.

To add to the topic though so this isn't just a rant, & help others out, I'll chip in my own advice; when I worked in a notorious extras club on day shift, I did well. Think about it this way - Most extras girls hustle is offering extras for $x and then moving on quickly. As OP said, extras girls hustles tend to be faster, so they'll write off customers that don't immediately accept. You have the advantage of being one dancer that will sell them through charm or allure. Learn to do lap dances & stages that are more sensual & dripping with sex rather than focusing on pole tricks. One benefit to working heavy extras clubs actually, is that because their hustle is fast, you don't have to sit with customers for very long & do the chitchat before they decide to take you for dances. So within a song or two you're able to close the sale if he wants to take you. The pornstar/bimbo personality hustle also seems to do well in these types of extras rampant clubs.

It helps to also be a bit of a door shark. Especially with new or tourist customers, if you can get to him first before he is offered any extras, you can get some $$ out of him before he realizes extras are even on the menu. Sometimes they don't want to go for dances right away, (as in every other type of club) but it does work sometimes.
Don't write off those 1-2 pity dances, some guys may want to hang around & relax before getting extras, and those 1-2 dances between them (plus tips, as you should be asking for tips after every dance anyways) can add up at the end of the night. If you were cordial, & they are regulars, they may continue to get 1-2 "pity" dances from you each time you come in, if they like you, because it's not much compared to what they're going to spend for extras & they'll still like your company enough to pay that, which is a healthy stable in your earnings.
Couples in extras friendly clubs can be great. The extras girls won't usually bother them. Couples may just want to mess around together in VIP while you kinda shake your ass in the background lol. Use that to your advantage.

Also, if you want and if you can, hustle with the extras girls. If you are on the same page that you don't feel comfortable doing extras but she is, you can tag team sales together.
One club I worked a 90yo man came in & asked for advice where he could get extras, he said his wife passed away years ago & he has just been lonely & wanting his physical needs met. I pointed him in the right direction & he took me for $200 in clean dances & tipped $50 on top of it. As the OP said, if you don't feel comfortable doing this then don't, but overall be polite & cordial, & it benefits you in the long run.

I don't like it in the clubs altogether & don't currently work in an extras club, but when I was, I figured it was better to work with it (within my own boundaries) & outsmart them in my own way, because I sure as hell couldn't change it.
Some people can't move or commute, so I hope this helps those people out! :)

305gurl
10-18-2020, 11:43 PM
Ufff... you can't. My advice, stay away from clubs in the cities or within the metropolitan areas. Also, if there's too many foreign girls in the clubs, it's a bad sign. But those clubs get more traffic. My wild guess is to dance in the Midwest like Indianapolis where there's a good number of middle-class pockets(I tend to target white males) and.far from the Latin world and the coast

StellaRose
10-19-2020, 09:06 AM
I’ve worked at a dirty club. It was *known* on customer review sites and I also knew that getting into it. I just really wanted a change after something happened at the better, cleaner club.

I ended up dropping out that club within a couple of months. But in the meantime I kinda just goofed off until 11 at night and went for the younger and more party-happy crowd. The older and whiter, the more likely the demands so I avoided them unless they *really* wanted me.

neverendingkneebruises
10-20-2020, 10:28 AM
Ufff... you can't. My advice, stay away from clubs in the cities or within the metropolitan areas. Also, if there's too many foreign girls in the clubs, it's a bad sign. But those clubs get more traffic. My wild guess is to dance in the Midwest like Indianapolis where there's a good number of middle-class pockets(I tend to target white males) and.far from the Latin world and the coast

Yeah in a perfect world, no clubs would have extras or even just cheap extras, but so many cities are just saturated and not everyone is able to move (especially if you have kids or are studying nearby). Imo, if there's only extras clubs around and you're struggling to make $$ because of it, you either have to make peace with the fact you can't make as much, or move/travel to another area that doesn't have as many extras going on. I chose the 2nd option and don't regret it :)